From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V7 #131 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Thursday, April 29 2004 Volume 07 : Number 131 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] FALLing through..or: Why i Hate Rock-n-Roll part 753 ["K] Re: [idealcopy] gbv split [RLynn9@aol.com] [idealcopy] the monster mash-up ["Keith Astbury" ] Re: [idealcopy] the monster mash-up [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] gbv split ["ian s jackson" ] Re: [idealcopy] gbv split [RLynn9@aol.com] OT - RE: [idealcopy] the monster mash-up ["Jack Alberson" ] Re: [idealcopy] the monster mash-up [CHRISWIRE@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] the monster mash-up [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] gbv split ["Keith Astbury" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 12:12:32 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] FALLing through..or: Why i Hate Rock-n-Roll part 753 > at that gig he put the mic in the bass drum. very memorable > :o) Yeah, he did that one last time I saw him, too. Very unpleasant!! Keith np Appliance - 6 modular pieces (I can't recommend it too much) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 09:15:48 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] gbv split In a message dated 4/28/04 12:56:59 AM Central Daylight Time, bartvandamme@home.nl writes: > >>Dunno if the GBV fans here (Bart, Ian) know this. but I just read this on > >>the JC website. > > I had not heard it. Strange news to me, especially the official character of > it. GBV has changed line-ups so very often that this doesn't really strike > me as being terrible news. I'm sure there'll be more great tunes with > whatever backing band. > > no no no....he's not continuing with a new backing band....Pollard says he is tired of recording music and touring and all that comes with it: late hours, exhaustion, record industry crap etc. RL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 14:31:56 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] the monster mash-up I can see that this news is gonna be very popular with Mr Rabjohn ; ) David Bowie has invited fans to bootleg his music - and he's offering prizes for the most creative theft. The musician's website invites fans to mix classic Bowie songs with material from his latest album, Reality, to create a "mash-up" - a track superimposing the vocal line from one song with the backing tracks from another. The technique has long been employed by record producers, but music software has made it accessible to thousands of "bedroom DJs" - to the alarm of record companies battling to control the distribution of music through the internet. Bowie, 57, was quoted in Monday's editions of The Times newspaper as saying that mash-ups were "a great appropriation idea waiting to happen". "Being a hybrid maker off and on over the years, I'm very comfortable with the idea and have been the subject of quite a few pretty good mash-ups myself," the newspaper quoted him as saying. The music software needed for the task can be downloaded from Bowie's website, along with tracks from his new album. Once the contest closes on May 17, the winning track, chosen by Bowie, will be released as an MP3 single. Three winners will receive prizes including a car, music software and a laptop computer. http://www.davidbowie.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 18:10:10 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] gbv split >> I'm sure there'll be more great tunes with whatever backing band. > no no no....he's not continuing with a new backing band....Pollard says he is > tired of recording music and touring and all that comes with it: late hours, > exhaustion, record industry crap etc. > > RL What source do your have your information from Robert? Cause GBV's own website says the following: "Robert Pollard will continue writing, recording, and (possibly) touring as a solo artist. "I love the guys in the band, but I'm getting too old to be a gang leader," he explains. "There's a sense of maturity, and even integrity, I think, in continuing as one's own self." Besides, I can't imagine Pollard doing anything else but writing songs... that and drinking beer. You say something Ian! Ian......? I've just been playing Earthquake Glue in the car on the way home from work and I must say it keeps on growing on me. Song after song a true gem delivered as if it where just a casual tune. Bart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 12:28:35 -0400 From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] the monster mash-up In an email dated Wed, 28 Apr 2004 1:31:56 pm GMT, "Keith Astbury" writes: >I can see that this news is gonna be very popular with Mr Rabjohn ; ) //// oh good grief , its like that scene in "death race 2000" where the driver sees the parade of nuns walking slowly across his field of vision. as ever , the Dame jumps on last years bandwagon but misses the point entirely. i can really see the nation's bedroom DJ's desperate to use samples off the latest Bowie album. and mix them with.......yet more Bowie. get ready for 101 remixes of "laughing gnome" i guess? enough of this crap. i'm heading up for glasgow tomorrow (i'm incorporating some work into this trip) so looking forward to seeing a few old faces there. see on posteverything there's a few european festival dates , but nothing more for the UK as yet. best all look smart if this is to be filmed for posterity , nothing worse than a regrettable oufit :-) p ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 17:32:12 +0100 From: "ian s jackson" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] gbv split true enough Mark...if Bob's future stuff stands up to a classic like 'Please Speak Kindly Of Your Volunteer Fire Dept' (Pollard & Doug Gillard)...then i'm fine with that... i'm still a bit gutted that the name will cease to exist...whereas with The Fall.... ian.s.j. >From: MarkBursa@aol.com >Will it make any difference? The current band bears little resemblance to >the >'classic' GBV line-up (in the same way thet today's Fall is hardly >Scanlon/Hanley/Bramah/Burns). I'd expect an annual Rob Pollard solo album, >sounding much >like the recent (and pretty good) GBV albums, but with different hired >hands >on gtr/bass/drums. Let's face it, Bob's not about to head off in a new acid >kraut mambo direction.... > >Mark _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 12:43:37 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] gbv split In a message dated 4/28/04 11:15:19 AM Central Daylight Time, bartvandamme@home.nl writes: > What source do your have your information from Robert? Cause GBV's own > website says the following: > > "Robert Pollard will continue writing, recording, and (possibly) touring as > a solo artist. "I love the guys in the band, but I'm getting too old to be a > gang leader," he explains. "There's a sense of maturity, and even integrity, > I think, in continuing as one's own self." > > Besides, I can't imagine Pollard doing anything else but writing songs... > that and drinking beer. i gleaned the info from our local entertainment paper (rag) ....oh well...it wouldn't be the first time they were wrong... RL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 11:44:42 -0500 From: "Jack Alberson" Subject: OT - RE: [idealcopy] the monster mash-up Funny enough, I put together my first mash-up the other day. It's a mix of "Dreams Never End" by New Order and "In Between Days" by The Cure. http://www.fac193.com/livejournal/EndBetweenDreams.mp3 In case anyone wants to give it a listen. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 12:47:51 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] the monster mash-up In a message dated 4/28/04 11:42:17 AM Central Daylight Time, PaulRabjohn@aol.com writes: > best all look smart if this is to be filmed for posterity , nothing worse > than a regrettable oufit :-) p black leather pants and pink boas? RL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 18:13:34 +0100 From: "Andrew Lumbard" Subject: [idealcopy] Classic Stuff revisited - Messiaen/Turangalilia Apologies for leaving you nameless, but someone on this list mentioned seeing this performed in Atlanta recently. Thought the UK copyists, who may be interested, might like to know that this is being performed at this year's Proms on Friday 13th August. AndyL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 11:49:50 -0700 From: Paul Pietromonaco Subject: RE: [idealcopy] gbv split Hi everyone, > Dunno if the GBV fans here (Bart, Ian) know this. but I > just read this on the JC website. > Maybe it's just the lack of caffeine, or something, but I can't figure out who JC is. Who is this? Don't be mean! (^_^) I'm only on my second cup of tea this morning! Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 16:22:35 EDT From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] the monster mash-up In a message dated 28/04/2004 17:42:17 GMT Daylight Time, PaulRabjohn@aol.com writes: enough of this crap. i'm heading up for glasgow tomorrow (i'm incorporating some work into this trip) so looking forward to seeing a few old faces there. see on posteverything there's a few european festival dates , but nothing more for the UK as yet. best all look smart if this is to be filmed for posterity , nothing worse than a regrettable oufit :-) p I think a Wire T-Shirt will do nicely. See you there. Chris - Still playing The Mars Volta CD ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 19:15:04 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] the monster mash-up In a message dated 4/28/04 12:42:17 PM, PaulRabjohn@aol.com writes: << //// oh good grief , its like that scene in "death race 2000" where the driver sees the parade of nuns walking slowly across his field of vision. >> hehe, i'm more a fan of the scene where the doctors and nurses line up all the geriatric patients so frankenstein can get a big score, and he veers at the last moment and mows down the doctors and nurses instead. - -another the paul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 01:09:24 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] gbv split > Maybe it's just the lack of caffeine, or something, but I can't figure out > who JC is. Who is this? > > Don't be mean! (^_^) I'm only on my second cup of tea this morning! > > Cheers, > Paul Sorry. It's Julian Cope. Thought I'd better nip this in the bud in case anyone thought I'd gone all religous ; ) Keith np Julian Cope - interpreter ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V7 #131 *******************************