From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V7 #118 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Friday, April 16 2004 Volume 07 : Number 118 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Re: idealcopy-digest V7 #117 [rys01ajc@gold.ac.uk] Re: [idealcopy] OT: Pixies ["Keith Astbury" ] RE: [idealcopy] OT: Pixies [Alistair Tear ] [idealcopy] Moz in NME Shock!! ["Keith Astbury" ] Re: [idealcopy] Moz in NME Shock!! ["Tim" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 10:04:28 +0100 From: rys01ajc@gold.ac.uk Subject: [idealcopy] Re: idealcopy-digest V7 #117 Following on from the message from Swim... what else might this series of releases include ? Any ideas ? I'd like to see the Albini sessions and what about a dvd as previously discussed on the list. Tony. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 11:36:59 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Pixies > Curling is *great* fun. No, really. (I captained my school at it. It > beat the hell out of being trodden into the floor in yet another ruck > at rugby). Rugby? For wusses, Andrew ; ) Didn't you ever play the rules-free Murder Ball? Social Services would be involved nowadays!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 13:35:39 +0200 From: "Ad Roon" Subject: [idealcopy] Brainwashed DVD-r Interesting DVD. Don't know we discussed this before. But Wire is on the Brainwashed.com The Eye Volume 2 DVD-R. http://www.brainwashed.com/eye/ There should be a possibility to watch this, but not on my computer till sofar. Does someone else knows this item. np Fennesz - Venice >Following on from the message from Swim... what else might this series of >releases include ? Any ideas ? I'd like to see the Albini sessions and what >about a dvd as previously discussed on the list. > >Tony. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Zoeken, voor duidelijke zoekresultaten! http://search.msn.nl ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 12:51:30 +0100 From: Alistair Tear Subject: RE: [idealcopy] OT: Pixies I had a go @ burning the Neubauten London cd my machine 'read' an insane 70 tracks (files) on the cd each one 59secs long...I went ahead & copied it anyway- it took forever & when I played it on my cd player there was a couple of seconds long silent gap every minute or so making it unlistenable... I assume this is some kind of anti-copy device although I 'have' heard that a copy has been made of an earlier concert in the tour.... later A > If anyone wants to do a swap for an alternative date (or > indeed a Neubauten > CD from the recent tour) let me know... > Mark > ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Transport for London Street Management hereby excludes any warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of this e-mail and any attached transmitted files. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify postmaster@Streetmanagement.org.uk. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 08:04:48 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Pixies >>I had a go @ burning the Neubauten London cd my machine 'read' an insane 70 tracks (files) on the cd each one 59secs long...I went ahead & copied it anyway- it took forever & when I played it on my cd player there was a couple of seconds long silent gap every minute or so making it unlistenable... I assume this is some kind of anti-copy device although I 'have' heard that a copy has been made of an earlier concert in the tour....<< It'd work in 'analogue' mode on a hifi burner. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 10:00:35 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] games of our youth In a message dated 4/15/04 5:38:36 AM Central Daylight Time, keith.indoorminer@virgin.net writes: > Rugby? For wusses, Andrew ; ) > > Didn't you ever play the rules-free Murder Ball? > > Social Services would be involved nowadays!! when i was a wee lad, all the kids in my neighborhood played hide the belt...the rules to this sadistic game were simple....one person is "it" and he/she gets to hide a belt somewhere in the back yard while all the other kids count to 100 in the front yard (no peeking around the corner..or else)....then when the count was over (or if the "it" person yelled "ready!!") all the kids got to look around for the belt..reading the "it" person's body language and facial expressions was key...when someone found the belt they could run after and swat the behinds of as many people as they could until everyone made it safely back to "home base" (the front porch)...broke my left arm one summer by Jumping Off (Too Quickly) the shed to escape the brutality of my older cousin....."Instant Shed" indeed.... RL np - Klaus Schulze "Dig It" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 17:15:01 -0000 From: "Uri Baran" Subject: [idealcopy] Tickets for SWIM do I have 2 spare tickets for tomorrow night if anyone is interested, please contact me off list. Uri ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 19:25:10 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] Moz in NME Shock!! If I'd have been holding a teapot in Tescos, then I would surely have dropped it. Because, there, on the cover of the comic formerly known as the New Musical Express is a middle aged man, with the headline "The Guv'nor Returns". And no, it's not Paul Ince! It's the Charming Man himself, in his first NME interview for 12 years. And regardless of what the new album is gonna sound like, I just think it's great that he's back. And - the good news is - it's a great read, which is probably to be expected as he's surely one of the greatest interviewee's of all time. As for this one - well, it's the same as it ever was - he talks about tea, days gone by, new bands he likes (Libertines and, wait for it, The Ordinary Boys - of course he does!!) and he made me laugh by saying that Courtney Love wasn't the "full shilling". Essential reading for Moz fans!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:37:51 EDT From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Moz in NME Shock!! In a message dated 15/04/2004 19:56:45 GMT Daylight Time, keith.indoorminer@virgin.net writes: It's the Charming Man himself, in his first NME interview for 12 years. And regardless of what the new album is gonna sound like, I just think it's great that he's back. And - the good news is - it's a great read, which is probably to be expected as he's surely one of the greatest interviewee's of all time. I heard the upcoming single on Radio 1.Yes I know -forgive me. And guess what - I really like it.The title is something like Irish Blood / English Heart & its a terrific single.If the albums on a par it will be a belting comeback. Chris NP Mellow - Perfect Colours ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 13:08:19 PDT From: paulrabjohn@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Interesting item on eBay UK web site item# 4005682192: HAWKWIND REMIX PROJECT RARE OOP CD SEALED NEW! WIRE I saw this item for sale at eBay, The World's Online Marketplace TM, and thought that you might be interested. didn't realise colin's hawkwind remix was offcially available. anyone got this? p Title of item: HAWKWIND REMIX PROJECT RARE OOP CD SEALED NEW! WIRE Seller: prabbitrecords Starts: 04-Apr-04 05:14:24 BST Ends: 14-Apr-04 05:14:24 BST Price: Currently US $22.500000 To bid on the item, go to: http://cgi3.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?RedirectEnter&partner=777701&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi%2Eebay%2Eco%2Euk%2Fws%2FeBayISAPI%2Edll%3FViewItem%26item%3D4005682192%26category%3D307%26ssPageName%3DADME%3AB%3AEF%3AUS%3A1 Item Description: This is a factory SEALED CD by the UK band Hawkwind, called the "HAWKWIND REMIX PROJECT". It’s a 1999 Warlord release, catalog number WARLORD777CD. Fantastic sounding spacerock CD, far superior to the earlier remix efforts applied to Hawkwind material. Tracks are: 1.Future Loop Foundation-Golden Void2.John Avery-Sonic Attack3.DJ Speedranch-Brainstorm4.Hawkwind-Earth Calling5.Scalper MIB-Levitation6.Richard Chadwick-Silver Kachina7.Colin Newman-Master of the Universe The versions of Golden Void and Master... are real standouts and will really surprise some folks. CD is factory sealed. Rare item for the Hawkwind fan/collector. Winner pays $2.00 for shipping and handling. Overseas bidders are welcome. I accept payment through PayPal (including credit cards). Money orders and personal checks (must clear) are also accepted as payment. Visit eBay, The World's Online Marketplace TM at http://www.ebay.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 13:50:58 -0700 From: Paul Pietromonaco Subject: [idealcopy] Spin Magazine, Michael Stipe and Wire - The Connection! Hi everyone, I don't know if this has been posted before or not. I've been on Jury Duty the last couple of days, and I'm just catching up on my e-mail right now. But before I forget: While waiting to see if I would be called for a trial, I read an interview with Michael Stipe in the latest issue of Spin where he basically rated his favorite albums of all time. Wire's 154 came in at number 3!!! Here's his description: C. WIRE 154 (Harvest, 1979; 1994) "Pink Flag was such an adrenaline burst of energy. Then, with 154, the same guys who had just made this incredibly hard, fast music turned around and made this beautiful keyboard-driven synthesizer thing about horses getting stuck in barbed wire and watching them as you passed by on a train. It was eye-opening for me, because you could not listen to those two albums and think it was the same band." The whole list is here: http://spin.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=304 Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:03:14 -0500 From: "Jack Alberson" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Spin Magazine, Michael Stipe and Wire - The Connection! Connection? I read nothing about Elastica! ;) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Paul Pietromonaco Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 3:51 PM To: 'ideal copy' Subject: [idealcopy] Spin Magazine, Michael Stipe and Wire - The Connection! Hi everyone, I don't know if this has been posted before or not. I've been on Jury Duty the last couple of days, and I'm just catching up on my e-mail right now. But before I forget: While waiting to see if I would be called for a trial, I read an interview with Michael Stipe in the latest issue of Spin where he basically rated his favorite albums of all time. Wire's 154 came in at number 3!!! Here's his description: C. WIRE 154 (Harvest, 1979; 1994) "Pink Flag was such an adrenaline burst of energy. Then, with 154, the same guys who had just made this incredibly hard, fast music turned around and made this beautiful keyboard-driven synthesizer thing about horses getting stuck in barbed wire and watching them as you passed by on a train. It was eye-opening for me, because you could not listen to those two albums and think it was the same band." The whole list is here: http://spin.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=304 Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 23:58:19 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Spin Magazine, Michael Stipe and Wire - The Connection! > But before I forget: While waiting to see if I would be called for a trial, > I read an interview with Michael Stipe in the latest issue of Spin where he > basically rated his favorite albums of all time. Wire's 154 came in at > number 3!!! That's a really good read, Paul. Three of my faves LP's ever there!! Keith np Skyray - womb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 01:07:31 +0100 From: "Tim" Subject: [idealcopy] A Serious of Reissues Well Colin did say a "...series of reissues"......which implies stuff thats already been out before.....but then he says one of these is the Roxy show/George Gill era stuff off that Ebay bootleg...which hasn't already been out. So who knows what is coming our way. Perhaps a re-issue of 'Behind the Curtain' is mooted with an extra disc as per the above? (it doesn't say whether these are PinkFlag re-issues or EMI ones....) As well as the Albini sessions, there is also the bits and bobs Colin was working on before Read & Burn started to take shape. There was that radio broadcast with a version of 'Crazy About Love' sampled off the original and put together much like 12TimesU and the tracks that became R&B, with a new vocal from Colin. Didn't he do a 'Lowdown' as well? As we have a live recording of RFH and the R&B version of Wire, perhaps a couple of live albums from Wire mk1 and mute-era Wire (IBTABA doesn't count) of a higher fidelity than D&E and T&S would be very welcome.... A DVD of course would be great...if they ever sort the copyright issues out. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 10:04 AM Subject: [idealcopy] Re: idealcopy-digest V7 #117 > Following on from the message from Swim... what else might this series of > releases include ? Any ideas ? I'd like to see the Albini sessions and what > about a dvd as previously discussed on the list. > > Tony. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 01:48:31 +0100 From: "Tim" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Moz in NME Shock!! Mozzer lost me with 'Every Day is Like Sunday' which sounded like a bad Smiths parody and I never bought another record....., but it is rather nice to see Mozzer on the front of NME again...especially for those of us who remember when NME stood for New Morrissey Express. Last week Kurt Cobain was on the cover....are they trying to woo back those of us who may have dropped the NME after they appointed a bloke who looked about 14 as editor and it went rabidly after the 13-21 demographic in the late 90s? I'm sure I'm not the only one here who used to read NME in his youth and swore he'd still be reading it in my 30s and 40s because I was going to grow old but still in touch, like John Peel....but then suddenly...about 1999...NME went all Dayglo-kiddy-2-second-attention-span-TXT-MSG-styleee...and put Eminem, Blink 182, Linkin Biskits etc on the cover. It wasn't my fault! I'd not lost my passion for new music, wanting to keep moving, keep discovering..but NME just wanted to smoke skunk, wear lo-slung denim jeans, download Polyphonic ringtones to its Nokia mobile, go to Ibiza and watch fucking MTV-2 all day and it didn't want me as a reader anymore. So I stopped. I did read one recently. It had Franz Ferdinand on the cover and it was OK. It still has Singles/Album reviews that get far to excited in a drug-influenced way about real average shit...which is probably what the NME was always about. This seems to co-incide with Q getting really really shit when it used to be quite good.....might buy the new issue and see what gives. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Moz in NME Shock!! > In a message dated 15/04/2004 19:56:45 GMT Daylight Time, > keith.indoorminer@virgin.net writes: > > It's the Charming Man himself, in his first NME interview for 12 years. And > regardless of what the new album is gonna sound like, I just think it's great > that he's back. And - the good news is - it's a great read, which is probably > to be expected as he's surely one of the greatest interviewee's of all time. > > > I heard the upcoming single on Radio 1.Yes I know -forgive me. > And guess what - I really like it.The title is something like Irish Blood / > English Heart & its a terrific single.If the albums on a par it will be a > belting comeback. > Chris > NP Mellow - Perfect Colours ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V7 #118 *******************************