From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V7 #104 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Friday, April 2 2004 Volume 07 : Number 104 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] RE: Worst band line-up =?ISO-8859-1?B?oCh3YXMgVGhlIFdobyk=?= [PaulRabjohn@ao] RE: [idealcopy] re : Classic Stuff ["Clements, Bruno - BUP" ] Re: [idealcopy] O.T: Go Canada............. [Ari Britt ] RE: [idealcopy] re : Classic Stuff [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] RE: [idealcopy] OT another interesting tidbit... [Alistair Tear ] Re: [idealcopy] RE: Worst band line-up (was The Who) [Andrew Walkingshaw] Re: [idealcopy] re : Classic Stuff [Bart van Damme ] Re: [idealcopy] SEND:received, understood, and a year on [Bart van Damme ] RE: [idealcopy] RE: Mr Alasdair Roberts [Alistair Tear ] Re: [idealcopy] great Stereolab deal! [=?iso-8859-1?q?Monochromatic=20Man] Re: [idealcopy] re : Classic Stuff ["Jan J Noorda" ] Re: [idealcopy] great Stereolab deal! [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] RE: Worst band line-up (was The Who) ["Keith Astbury" ] Re: [idealcopy] great Stereolab deal! ["dan bailey" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] re : Classic Stuff We Hammill fans will NOT rise to such bait - especially after bagging Glastonbury tickets, at last!!!! PH on his own, on stage at the Bristol Old Vic, will always be in my top five ever gigs (course, I don't remember much about it now...!) Fripp? Surely he's fine when reigned in by Eno/Bowie, while Adrian Belew had his moments with David Byrne, I seem to remember... Bruno - -----Original Message----- ...my bid to have Belew included in teh worst band ever has fallen on deaf > ears. Should have gone for Fripp.). Likewise my mention of Hammill though to be fair, the lesser spotted Hammill fan is a hardy creature who - after years of practice - can cope with any amount of criticism of their idol. ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 11:17:08 +0100 From: Alistair Tear Subject: RE: [idealcopy] RE: Worst band line-up (was The Who) Re Interview... the only 'painful and tragic death' I'm interested in is that of Mr Alasdair Roberts...wretched little tosser that he is... A An interview this > week with the > great man in The Guardian can be found here > http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/features/story/0,11710,1180946,00.html > > > > > And Alasdair Roberts as support... > > A > > ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Transport for London Street Management hereby excludes any warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of this e-mail and any attached transmitted files. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify postmaster@Streetmanagement.org.uk. 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Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway - Enter today ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 02:32:45 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: Re: [idealcopy] O.T: Go Canada............. RLynn9@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 4/1/04 7:56:36 PM Central Standard Time, eklaver@elysium-sl.com writes: > PS-- if you are a US lawyer and you want to practise in Canada here are > some > differences in laws, off the top of my head. > > You can smoke marijuana without getting your ass thrown in jail.>>>>> somewhere in Chapel Hill North Carolina a man is packing his luggage... send me a poscard will you Auntie Ari? I wlli if m'I not oto stenod ............Ira RL Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway - Enter today ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 02:34:35 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: RE: [idealcopy] O.T: Go Canada............. Eric Klaver wrote:For the right amount of... er... "rent", you can stay with me Ari. ///////////////////////////////////////// > I'm packing my bags right now .......cough cough..........A Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway - Enter today ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 11:28:30 +0100 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] OT another interesting tidbit... - -----Original Message----- From: RLynn9@aol.com ...what kills cd sales is that nobody can/wants to pay $16 for cds anymore... >>>Read 16gbp for many CDs in Britain... The Fall reissues ones are about 9gbp from Action Records with a 10% discount if you say you've used the official visi.com Fall website - this more than covers the postage charge within Britain. Discount applies to all artists - they have a fair Wire list and some vinyl rarities... ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 11:55:18 +0100 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: RE: AW: [idealcopy] O.T:is the list alive ...??? ...where the hell is Bart anyway? RL >>>He's alive and happy in Groningen but now very busy as he works Monday to Thursday for some graphics design firm or other. Friday and Saturday he's still dealing with existing Manscape customers, I think, though he took some to his new job. He could keep up with IC while working from home but is too busy to be subscribed at work... I expect to meet the great (?) man and his brother in June for one of the Pixies' gigs at Brixton. I was lucky enough to get four tickets so he's getting a pair - at face value, naturally (160gbp last time I looked on eBay!!!) Of course, seeing as it's Friday, he might pop up in a minute... Then again it's sunny on my side of the North Sea so he might just be out having a stroll, contemplating what was in that last parcel of CDs I sent him which never arrived (grrrrr). Bruno ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 13:27:13 +0200 From: "Jan J Noorda" Subject: [idealcopy] [OT] Collapsing New Buildings I went yesterdady to the Neubauten concert in Amsterdam. I must say if you like them and they are in the neighbourhood. Don't miss them. They are in very good shape. With three encores in Amsterdam and nearly sold out I suppose they impressed probably the most of the visitors. Blixa announced a special treatment for mr Stevo (Some Bizarre director) is planned for the London gig, next saturday. Stevo didnot pay any penny to the band for their releases on Some Bizarre (Kollaps, Halber Mensch, Drawings of Patients). btw I think they could get a hard time in Dublin. They are playing here I believe sunday. Nearly everyone smokes. For smoking sigarrettes in pubs cafes etc you could get a penalty of 1500 Euro (that 1500 USD) in Ireland since last monday. A nice thing for supporters only. They are recording every concert. After the show you can buy a fresh burnt ceedee from what you heard half an hour before. np Einsturzende Neubauten live in Amsterdam 1st april 2004 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 13:40:51 +0200 From: "Jan J Noorda" Subject: [idealcopy] [OT]Tuxedomoon http://www.crammed.be/crammed/1515/index.htm This was where I am talking about. I think this could be a great album. are here more who like Tuxedomoon? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 06:44:50 -0500 From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: RE: [idealcopy] re : Classic Stuff >You wait until the Hammill Rapture....... /////oh god keith , please tell me he hasn't formed a dodgy post punk band doing GO4 tribute numbers? just what the world needed ; post-prog :-( p ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 12:49:15 +0100 From: Alistair Tear Subject: RE: [idealcopy] OT another interesting tidbit... //conducted by Harvard Business School associate professor Felix //Oberholzer and University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, associate //professor Koleman Strumpf Felix Oberholzer and Koleman Strumpf? Christ that's worth the price of admission itself... In another life they would be avant garde classical composers, nyet? and near neighbours of Ari, by golly... A > > > ...that supports may suspicsion about P2P > > File-sharing doesn't kill CD sales, study finds > > > ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Transport for London Street Management hereby excludes any warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of this e-mail and any attached transmitted files. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify postmaster@Streetmanagement.org.uk. 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If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify postmaster@Streetmanagement.org.uk. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 14:13:44 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: AW: [idealcopy] O.T:is the list alive ...??? / popping up It's friday indeed and here I am popping up... like it's spring! Working my way through some 150 emails. Hard to keep up with all the threads since the new working situation (which Bruno accurately described). Shame, especially with the classical thread. Nice to hear about everyone's favourites. > give me Stockhausen or Cage over Wagner anyday.... Wagner's intro to Tristan & Isolde and his entire Parcifal are amongst the greatest pieces of classical I can think of! More impressive than both Stockhausen and Cage, though I like both A LOT. Others contenders for me are: Shostakovich (string quartets sooner than symphonies), Messiaen, Schnittke, Ives, Raskatov, Part, Reich, Bach, Dowland... just the top of the iceberg. Man, am I looking forward to the London Pixies gig! Thanks again Bruno! Looking forward to meet you. Any others going on Saturday? I hope there'll still be Ryan Air flights from Groningen to London/Stansted, cause I heard they'll probably dissapear soon. Fingers crossed. Bart >> ...where the hell is Bart anyway? >> >> RL > He's alive and happy in Groningen but now very busy as he works Monday to > Thursday for some graphics design firm or other. Friday and Saturday he's > still dealing with existing Manscape customers, I think, though he took some > to his new job. > > He could keep up with IC while working from home but is too busy to be > subscribed at work... > > I expect to meet the great (?) man and his brother in June for one of the > Pixies' gigs at Brixton. I was lucky enough to get four tickets so he's > getting a pair - at face value, naturally (160gbp last time I looked on > eBay!!!) > > Of course, seeing as it's Friday, he might pop up in a minute... Then again > it's sunny on my side of the North Sea so he might just be out having a > stroll, contemplating what was in that last parcel of CDs I sent him which > never arrived (grrrrr). > > Bruno ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 14:23:03 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Satie / baroque'n'roll In 1982 I saw an excellent choreography by Hans van Manen (Dutch National Ballet) on Satie's Trois Gnossiennes in which the piano (on a platform on wheels) was pushed around by the dancers making it part of the dance... both comic and fragile. On a similar note, I've just finished a dvd inlay/booklet design for Canadian punky dance group Lalala Human Steps with their take on Rameau's "lost" opera les Boreades. Amazing mixture of baroque, punk and 1940's inspired fashion (Dior). Saw Lalala H S in 1993 in Groningen and thought they were truely great - reminding me a bit of Michael Clarke. Bart > Yeah, Satie's a fascinating figure. Very much a precursor of the Wire > attitude in his somewhat studied perversity. There's a compilation of > various accounts of and references to him "Satie Remembered" (I think) > published by Faber which was cheaply available in remaindered shops in > London not so long ago which, if you could get past the slightly > over-present editor, was a good read. I particularly liked how he joined a > citizen's militia to protect Paris from the threat of German invasion until > they were forced to disband by the police after complaints from locals > about the noise. > > Tony. >> Debussy/Satie/Ravel are my far and away my favorites in the world of >> classical...mostly because of their serenity and ambience...and in the >> case of Satie sheer oddball tendencies....he's an interesting figure to >> read about >> >> RL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 14:36:02 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] RE: Mr Alasdair Roberts > Re Interview... > the only 'painful and tragic death' I'm interested in is that > of Mr Alasdair Roberts...wretched little tosser that he is... > > A Haha, I bet Alistair, that's mainly because he spells his name the way he does? ;-) I've been listening to Gillian Welch a lot lately and both seem to draw from their (ancient) musical heritage. Like it or not, both seem equally sincere. I heard Miss Welch for the first time in the Coen brothers' O Brother Where Art Thou and liked it a lot. Has she been around long? Bart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 07:39:54 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] RE: Worst band line-up (was The Who) > >>Hmm, must have been the early 90s then. I was surprised too at his > desire to be a guitar hero b and Thomasb willingness to put up with it as he doesn > bt give the impression of someone who lets others dominate.<< Wonder what he did in between leaving Pere Ubu in 79 to becoming the mad axe wanker in 90? >> It was certainly after all the others had left which did piss me off as I really liked Tony > Maimone as a live performer << Agreed. The Heart of Darkness bassline is the root of Peter Hook's sound, for certain. Saw Maimone outside the context of Pere Ubu once, in Bob Mould's band (with Anton Fier on Drums). Astonishingly heavy, and a great cover of Neil Young's Cinnamon Girl. >>(Ravenstine too, - those great sounds from a primitive box - although he left earlier).<< He was around in 87, when they returned with two drummers. Really up in the mix too. Always liked the way he was listed as playing "synthesizer" not keyboards. Not sure his "box" had a keyboard at all (like Brian Eno's Roxy one). I think they both used EML synths. >>Which almost makes me want to compile the dream band line-up to counter the horror > line-upb&.<< Toooo difficult!! Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 14:45:35 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Collapsing New Buildings > I went yesterdady to the Neubauten concert in Amsterdam. I must say if you > like them and they are in the neighbourhood. Don't miss them. They are in very > good shape. With three encores in Amsterdam and nearly sold out I suppose they > impressed probably the most of the visitors. Nice one! > Blixa announced a special treatment for mr Stevo (Some Bizarre director) is > planned for the London gig, next saturday. Stevo didnot pay any penny to the > band for their releases on Some Bizarre (Kollaps, Halber Mensch, Drawings of > Patients). Should the audience be bothered with EN's business dealings? Any idea what the treatment will consist of then? > btw I think they could get a hard time in Dublin. They are playing here I > believe sunday. Nearly everyone smokes. For smoking sigarrettes in pubs cafes > etc you could get a penalty of 1500 Euro (that 1500 USD) in Ireland since last > monday. Hurray for the Irish! Filthy habit smoking! Those things kill ya! ;-) > A nice thing for supporters only. They are recording every concert. After the > show you can buy a fresh burnt ceedee from what you heard half an hour before. Now THERE's a good idea! (though a freshly burned DVD would seem even a better one!) Bart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 07:45:40 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] re : Classic Stuff > Fripp? Surely he's fine when reigned in by Eno/Bowie, while Adrian Belew > had > his moments with David Byrne, I seem to remember... > An excellent summary. Probably enough to spare either of the from the humiliation of having to support Dolores. Though Fripp's experience with Toyah might stand him in good stead. There'th another candidate, of courthe. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 14:49:28 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT]Tuxedomoon > http://www.crammed.be/crammed/1515/index.htm > > This was where I am talking about. I think this could be a great album. > > are here more who like Tuxedomoon? Used to play them a lot but haven't heard anything by them for more than 15 years... just like with Minimal Compact. Bart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 13:50:28 +0100 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] RE: Worst band line-up (was The Who) On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 07:39:54AM -0500, MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: > > Toooo difficult!! So much of it is down to the style, too; Jeff Buckley would be high on the list of my dream vocalists, but he'd not fit at all with a lot of the other musicians I'd put across. As a guitarist, and not a very good one admittedly, I seem to revolve around alternately trying to rip off Peter Buck, Graham Coxon, Kevin Shields (with very little success), Jonny Greenwood, and (of course) Bruce Gilbert circa Pink Flag. I guess that's some measure of who I'd have to put in, though it's fair to say none of them are the most technically-skilled guitarists out there (Coxon's actually pretty good, but his style is utterly schizophrenic). On that subject, Bands From Hell; three lead guitarists - Satriani/Vai/Malmsteen. Imagine that and wince. - - A - -- Earth Sciences, University of Cambridge http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ Programme Controller, CUR1350 http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ email: andrew@lexical.org.uk Random Walk ::: Wednesday, 11pm ::: cur1350.co.uk ::: is this music? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 14:55:49 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] re : Classic Stuff > Likewise my mention of Hammill though to be fair, the lesser spotted Hammill > fan is a hardy creature who - after years of practice - can cope with any > amount of criticism of their idol. PH was in Idols? ;-) Bart (IC masses: "Go back in hibernation mode Mr. van Damme") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 15:21:02 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] SEND:received, understood, and a year on > -paul (hey bart, can i fit this on an ipod mini?) c.d. Sure you can! You already have one then? The Europe release has been delayed! Bummer! :-( Bart (I'll fit) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 14:55:45 +0100 From: Alistair Tear Subject: RE: [idealcopy] RE: Mr Alasdair Roberts > > Re Interview... > > the only 'painful and tragic death' I'm interested in is that > > of Mr Alasdair Roberts...wretched little tosser that he is... > > > > A > > Haha, I bet Alistair, that's mainly because he spells his name the way > he does? ;-) No, it's because he is guilty of giving one of the most inept performances I have ever had the misfortune to witness from a 'professional' musician... > > I heard Miss Welch for the first time in the Coen brothers' O Brother > Where Art Thou and liked it a lot. Has she been around long? Only since 1996 or so. I've got the time the revelator album. It's pretty good depite the pretentious title. btw she pronounces her name with a 'hard' G as in gas...strange.. A > > Bart > ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Transport for London Street Management hereby excludes any warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of this e-mail and any attached transmitted files. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify postmaster@Streetmanagement.org.uk. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 11:37:07 -0600 From: "Stephen Graziano" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT]Tuxedomoon I used to listen to Tuxedomoon back when they were with Ralph Records. I had the Desire and Half Mute albums. I also recall a Winston Tong spoken word piece on the "From Brussels with Love" compilation. sg http://www.sourmashusa.com - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan J Noorda" To: "Ideal Copy" Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 5:40 AM Subject: [idealcopy] [OT]Tuxedomoon > http://www.crammed.be/crammed/1515/index.htm > > This was where I am talking about. I think this could be a great album. > > are here more who like Tuxedomoon? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 18:47:46 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] RE: Mr Alasdair Roberts >> Haha, I bet Alistair, that's mainly because he spells his name the way >> he does? ;-) > No, it's because he is guilty of giving one of the most inept performances > I have ever had the misfortune to witness from a 'professional' musician... Witnessed him on a triple bill with 2 noisy bands and thought he made kind of a fresh difference myself. Wouldn't give him the death penalty anyway... ;-) >> I heard Miss Welch for the first time in the Coen brothers' O Brother >> Where Art Thou and liked it a lot. Has she been around long? > Only since 1996 or so. I've got the time the revelator album. It's > pretty good depite the pretentious title. > btw she pronounces her name with a 'hard' G as in gas...strange.. I only heard her name spoken with a hard G (she recently appeared in a country documentary). Does "X-files Gillian" pronounce hers differently then? The English G is a strange and flexible thing... Bart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 19:17:20 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] RE: Worst band line-up (was The Who) > On that subject, Bands From Hell; three lead guitarists - > Satriani/Vai/Malmsteen. Imagine that and wince. Do you mind?! I'd like to keep this pizza inside... :-/ But I wonder... would people (I'm in a good mood and still would call 'em that) somewhere on a mouldy Satriani/Vai/Malmsteen-list be dissing the likes of Lee Ranaldo, Graham Coxon or Peter Buck? Somehow I can't picture that... Bart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 12:22:36 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] great Stereolab deal! wow, my local record shop just had the best deal....they gave away a free Stereolab ticket (they are in town next Thursday) with the purchase of the new Stereolab cd they were only offering 30 of these bargains and i got the last one as soon as they opened this morning...i rarely ever buy new cds but at $15.99 i couldn't pass this up....the tickets to the show are $17.50......listened to the cd on the bus this morning and it's pretty standard Stereolab fare but of so good on a sunny spring morning.... RL np - Echoboy - Giraffe ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 19:39:21 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] re : Classic Stuff > It's like The Passion of the Christ - we can take it and we know we're > right - and ultimately it's for everybody's good! > > You wait until the Hammill Rapture - there will be one person from each > town floating up to Hammill heaven. Repent now while there's still > time! Funny, the other day our guitarist came up with a new song of his called Ship of Fools. Turned out he never heard VDGG version, which I quite liked... better than our guitarist's actually... shhh! ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 18:48:59 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Monochromatic=20Man?= Subject: Re: [idealcopy] great Stereolab deal! The last Stereolab I liked was Emperor Tomato Ketchup (now playing btw). I kinda gave up on them cause they never progressed. wnd --- RLynn9@aol.com wrote: > wow, my local record shop just had the best > deal....they gave away a free > Stereolab ticket (they are in town next Thursday) ===== Edward? Will Heaven be like Swansea? Yes, Tubbsonly bigger. ___________________________________________________________ WIN FREE WORLDWIDE FLIGHTS - nominate a cafe in the Yahoo! Mail Internet Cafe Awards www.yahoo.co.uk/internetcafes ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 19:52:42 +0200 From: "Jan J Noorda" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] re : Classic Stuff > > It's like The Passion of the Christ - we can take it and we know we're > > right - and ultimately it's for everybody's good! > > > > You wait until the Hammill Rapture - there will be one person from each > > town floating up to Hammill heaven. Repent now while there's still > > time! > > Funny, the other day our guitarist came up with a new song of his called > Ship of Fools. Turned out he never heard VDGG version, which I quite > liked... better than our guitarist's actually... shhh! ;-) > Or Tuxedomoon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 14:09:27 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] great Stereolab deal! In a message dated 4/2/04 12:02:58 PM Central Standard Time, xj23@yahoo.com writes: > The last Stereolab I liked was Emperor Tomato Ketchup > (now playing btw). > I kinda gave up on them cause they never progressed. > > wnd wait wait wait..THIS coming from a huge Pet Shop Boys (i love them too) and Electroclash fan? c'mon Billy , Stereolab may be somewhat of a one-trick pony but a good trick it is... RL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 20:18:01 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] RE: Worst band line-up (was The Who) > But I wonder... would people (I'm in a good mood and still would call 'em > that) somewhere on a mouldy Satriani/Vai/Malmsteen-list be dissing the likes > of Lee Ranaldo, Graham Coxon or Peter Buck? Somehow I can't picture that... I was friendly with a lad in the early 90's who was an excellent guitarist in the traditional sense. He loved guitar magazines, but just couldn't understand why those sort of magazines would write about Sonic Youth and their tuning methods. Screwdrivers. De-tuning. Atonal noise. That's not music! He begrudgingly gave Johhny Marr a certain amount of respect, but otherwise if you didn't play like Satriani etc, you were nothing. Keith ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 20:23:58 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] great Stereolab deal! > wait wait wait..THIS coming from a huge Pet Shop Boys (i love them too) and > Electroclash fan? > > c'mon Billy , Stereolab may be somewhat of a one-trick pony but a good trick > it is... on early listens, the new album sounds like their best in, ooh, ages! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 20:28:50 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Monochromatic=20Man?= Subject: Re: [idealcopy] great Stereolab deal! I suppose I'll have to look for it. Just got my tickets for Squarepusher next Wednesday! Wish I had a camcorder... > on early listens, the new album sounds like their > best in, ooh, ages! ===== Edward? Will Heaven be like Swansea? Yes, Tubbs...only bigger. ___________________________________________________________ WIN FREE WORLDWIDE FLIGHTS - nominate a cafe in the Yahoo! Mail Internet Cafe Awards www.yahoo.co.uk/internetcafes ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 14:33:08 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] great Stereolab deal! In a message dated 4/2/04 1:32:04 PM Central Standard Time, xj23@yahoo.com writes: > I suppose I'll have to look for it. > > Just got my tickets for Squarepusher next Wednesday! > Wish I had a camcorder... in chicago? or near you? the chicago show wa son Friday i thought RL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 20:34:47 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Monochromatic=20Man?= Subject: Re: [idealcopy] great Stereolab deal! Squarepusher is in Columbus next week. > > in chicago? or near you? the chicago show wa son > Friday i thought > RL ___________________________________________________________ WIN FREE WORLDWIDE FLIGHTS - nominate a cafe in the Yahoo! Mail Internet Cafe Awards www.yahoo.co.uk/internetcafes ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 12:20:14 -0800 (PST) From: fernando Subject: Re: [idealcopy] great Stereolab deal! - --- Keith Astbury wrote: > > wait wait wait..THIS coming from a huge Pet Shop Boys (i love them too) > and > > Electroclash fan? > > > > c'mon Billy , Stereolab may be somewhat of a one-trick pony but a good > trick > > it is... > > on early listens, the new album sounds like their best in, ooh, ages! I agree very much with this sentiment... the last one that I really like was ETK, and was OK through Dots and Loops (liked most of the album, vs. all of it)... but this one is quite excellent. It is a bit of marriage of ETK and Dots and Loop, with some of the meandering from the last few, especially Sound Dust. They are back to making fun albums (despite all that has happened), which I would not complain about (no sense on hoping for more droning like "Crest," my fave song from them). I hope to catch them live a couple of times... and I have not been bothered since... oh, 1995 or so. cheers! - -fernando ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 14:31:27 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] great Stereolab deal! >> wait wait wait..THIS coming from a huge Pet Shop Boys (i love them too) >and >> Electroclash fan? >> >> c'mon Billy , Stereolab may be somewhat of a one-trick pony but a good >trick >> it is... > >on early listens, the new album sounds like their best in, ooh, ages! i have yet to play my copy (devoted about a day to the title track of johnny cash's the man comes around, thanks to dawn of the dead) but must remedy that posthaste -- sound-dust was one of my favorite releases from a couple of years ago. dan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 13:05:06 -0800 (PST) From: fernando Subject: [idealcopy] [OT] what is the word on EASTER LANE Could someone comment on this Rough Trade label band?I may be purchasing their album and 2 singles, but wanted to hear some opinions from a forum of well-versed individuals ;) After some time in catching up with remastered re-issues, I am getting more new stuff, and so far has done well with BROKEN SOCIAL SCENE (Canadian with GY!BE meets pop air to them) and TV ON THE RADIO (better than the much lauded -- and I like them a bit -- INTERPOL). many thanks, - -fernando ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 16:46:57 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Re: worst guitarist In a message dated 4/2/04 5:04:57 AM, B.Clements@bepp.co.uk writes: << Fripp? Surely he's fine when reigned in by Eno/Bowie, while Adrian Belew had his moments with David Byrne, I seem to remember... >> i'm glad you mention that, cuz talking heads live on the remain in light tour is among my all time fave concerts. belew absolutely b(e)lew me away, and he did not overpower the band, wanking all over the place (as the guitarist of the all time worst band should do). really, he doesn't even do that in king crimson. i'd say he could only be accused of it on his solo stuff, but who really cares about that? and although brian may's hair would get along well with kenny g's, i think may plays too tastefully for this band as well. shouldn't the spot be held by a more van halen-esque player? who is the cheesiest of that lot? - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 17:06:46 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] dream band-was RE: Worst band line-up In a message dated 4/2/04 7:59:55 AM, MarkBursa@aol.com writes: << >>Which almost makes me want to compile the dream band line-up to counter the horror > line-upb&.<< Toooo difficult!! >> yeah, but what if you had to!! howzabout we try one, let's say a non-wire one so as not to impose the heavy bias round here ;o) what would be your dream guitar band line-up? 2 guitars, bass, drums, vocals. what would be your ultimate dream band line-up? any number of members up to 2 guitars, 2 synths/keyboards, 2 basses, 2 drummers, 2 vocalists, and additional members on strings, brass, bez, woodwinds, percussion, backing vocals, electronics/dj equipment/laptop... - -another the paul ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 17:16:17 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] dream band-was RE: Worst band line-up In a message dated 4/2/04 4:12:02 PM Central Standard Time, Eardrumbuz@aol.com writes: > << >>Which almost makes me want to compile the dream band line-up to > counter > the horror > > line-upb&.<< > > Toooo difficult!! >> yes, too difficult....no more lists for a while...pleeeease.... RL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 17:25:11 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT] what is the word on EASTER LANE In a message dated 4/2/04 4:20:18 PM, gromitklein@yahoo.com writes: << and TV ON THE RADIO (better than the much lauded -- and I like them a bit -- INTERPOL). >> i am really digging tv on the radio too! just a fantastic sound they've created. haven't gotten the album yet, but have been enjoying the young liars ep. and as a heads up to pixies fans...not sure if this is already widely known, but unlisted on the young liars cd ep is an a cappella rendition of mr. grieves! a nice way to close out the disc :o) - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 17:34:11 EST From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT] what is the word on EASTER LANE In a message dated 02/04/2004 22:20:18 GMT Daylight Time, gromitklein@yahoo.com writes: > Could someone comment on this Rough Trade label band?I may be purchasing > their > album and 2 singles, but wanted to hear some opinions from a forum of > well-versed individuals ;) > Hi Fernando Yeah Eastern Lane.Scottish Band I believe & they are quite good.Nothing earth shattering though.I like their new single Saffron alot. They are a fairly straightforward rock band with a catchy riff or three.Would not put you off buying the album. Chris - very happy that his Glasgow Wire tickets have arrived.And John Peel the DJ ! Looks a very strong show. What time will it finish ?? Thankfully I have a hotel for the night.. NP. John Lennons Jukebox CD2 ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V7 #104 *******************************