From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V7 #99 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Tuesday, March 30 2004 Volume 07 : Number 099 Today's Subjects: ----------------- AW: [idealcopy] O.T:is the list alive ...??? ["Woerner Frank-Juergen" ] Re: [idealcopy] O.T:is the list alive ...??? ["Ian B" ] Re: [idealcopy] re : Classic Stuff [MarkBursa@aol.com] RE: [idealcopy] re : Classic Stuff ["ian s jackson" ] Re: [idealcopy] RE: The Who [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] re : Classic Stuff [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] O.T:is the list alive ...??? ["Keith Astbury" ] Re: [idealcopy] O.T:is the list alive ...??? [Ari Britt Subject: AW: [idealcopy] O.T:is the list alive ...??? test, sorry ............................................................................................... Mit freundlichem Gru_ / kind regards Frank J|rgen Wvrner Siemens Business Services GmbH & Co. OHG Scripting Competence Center ORS GD CWS CC14 Hartmannstrasse 17 D - 91052 Erlangen Tel. +49 (9131) 844829 Fax +49 (9131) 844770 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:07:30 +0100 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] O.T:is the list alive ...??? I think everyone's hard at work (like me) or perhaps in bed (in the US)... :-) ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:26:06 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] O.T:is the list alive ...??? Bloody hell, it's Frank!! Where have you been??? Not sure how close you are to Berlin, but did you see the email re Graham & Bruce there in July? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Woerner Frank-Juergen" To: Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 3:50 PM Subject: AW: [idealcopy] O.T:is the list alive ...??? > test, sorry > > ............................................................................ ................... > Mit freundlichem Gru_ / kind regards > Frank J|rgen Wvrner > Siemens Business Services GmbH & Co. OHG > Scripting Competence Center > ORS GD CWS CC14 > Hartmannstrasse 17 > D - 91052 Erlangen > Tel. +49 (9131) 844829 > Fax +49 (9131) 844770 > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 07:37:12 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: Re: AW: [idealcopy] O.T:is the list alive ...??? Woerner Frank-Juergen wrote: test, sorry No Woerner,we all died at 3:06 a.m GMT yesterday....Ari ............................................................................................... Mit freundlichem Gru_ / kind regards Frank J|rgen Wvrner Siemens Business Services GmbH & Co. OHG Scripting Competence Center ORS GD CWS CC14 Hartmannstrasse 17 D - 91052 Erlangen Tel. +49 (9131) 844829 Fax +49 (9131) 844770 Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 07:39:38 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: RE: [idealcopy] O.T:is the list alive ...??? "Clements, Bruno - BUP" wrote:I think everyone's hard at work (like me) or perhaps in bed (in the US)... :-) Unlike me......got to bed at 2:00 a.m this morning (working on re-arranging the trailer/deck) and woke up/got up at 6:00 a.m,still hard at it..........yawn. Ari ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:40:54 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Monochromatic=20Man?= Subject: RE: [idealcopy] O.T:is the list alive ...??? What you talkin bout? I've been at work for two hours now. Wish I were back in bed. wnd3 > in bed (in the US)... > :-) > > > ___________________________________________________________ WIN FREE WORLDWIDE FLIGHTS - nominate a cafe in the Yahoo! Mail Internet Cafe Awards www.yahoo.co.uk/internetcafes ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:50:29 +0100 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: AW: [idealcopy] O.T:is the list alive ...??? On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 07:37:12AM -0800, Ari Britt wrote: > Woerner Frank-Juergen wrote: > test, sorry > > No Woerner,we all died at 3:06 a.m GMT yesterday....Ari Ah, so this is hell? Explains a lot. - - A (np. Clearlake - "Cedars"; not likely to be of interest to that many on this list, but one of the best bitter, dark pop records (think Delgados, Elbow, etc) I've heard in ages.) - -- Earth Sciences, University of Cambridge http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ Programme Controller, CUR1350 http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ email: andrew@lexical.org.uk Random Walk ::: Wednesday, 11pm ::: cur1350.co.uk ::: is this music? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:46:04 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Suicide fans take notice / the sound bbc > new release: > > SUICIDE: Attempted: Live at Max's Kansas City 1980 CD (SFTRI 729CD). Thanks for this Robert. I've seen it advertised and wondered about it. Another one I've seen advertised lately and wondered about is Joy Division at the Lyceum. Anyone here heard that? I've recently bought The Sound BBC Recordings double cd and can definitely recommend it to anyone who likes the first couple of Sound LP's. Disc one features a Mike 'Relax' Read session and a Peel one - it opens with a superb version of Heartland and barely lets up. CD2 features two 'in concerts' - one from 1981 and a later one from 1985. As band member Mike Dudley says on the sleeve, "I can't believe how good we sound". The packaging is a bit flimsy, but this is well worth a tenner. Keith np Bruce Gilbert - insiding ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:41:42 +0100 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] O.T:is the list alive ...??? ......got to bed at 2:00 a.m this morning (working on re-arranging the trailer/deck) and woke up/got up at 6:00 a.m,still hard at it..........yawn. Ari >>>Take it easy! Bruno ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:51:40 +0100 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] O.T:is the list alive ...??? - ---Wish I were back in bed. wnd3 >>>Forgive my haziness about US time zones... (it's nearly 5pm in the UK). I did work to 11.25pm last night so I don't feel too guilty! Bruno ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 08:04:46 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: RE: [idealcopy] O.T:is the list alive ...??? you're on summer time already? "Clements, Bruno - BUP" wrote:---Wish I were back in bed. wnd3 >>>Forgive my haziness about US time zones... (it's nearly 5pm in the UK). I did work to 11.25pm last night so I don't feel too guilty! Bruno ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 17:09:28 +0100 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] O.T:is the list alive ...??? you're on summer time already? - --- Oh yes, the sky is blue etc, etc, and I'll be dusting off my bicycle (a rather nice US-designed Airborne). Ok, so it isn't actually raining today... those reservoirs certainly are full! Bruno ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 12:22:10 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] RE: The Who > >>>Pino palladino was a bass playing whizz kid who used to play with paul > young when he had those hits in the 80's.<< Have to say, the sound of Pino's wobbly fretless bass noodling is one of the least pleasant noises in popular music history... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 12:25:54 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Pink Flags > >and i thought it was cool that there's now a bus route #154 from my school > > Back in the 70s, the bus that ran between Preston and Blackpool was the 154. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 13:10:10 EST From: HowardJSpencer@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Re: Wim Mertens In a message dated 28/3/04 10:38:54 am, owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org writes: << wim mertens (soft verdict) is also a nice postpunkpopclassical type of guy. if you like sigur ros vocals, you won't be too far off here, and musically he'll lead you in the direction of glass, reich, et al. - - -paul c.d. >> You got there first, Paul - I was planning to mention Wim. I'd recommend Struggle for Pleasure especially - also Vergessen and Strategie de la Rupture. I would not recommend the four album box set Aren Lezen unless you like the idea of an entire CD of sax followed by an entire CD of drums followed by... Given to me as a present by a well meaning friend - haven't ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 13:30:08 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] O.T:is the list alive ...??? whereas i was in bed dreaming that i was in atlanta (at an amphitheatre indistinguishable from north little rock's) to see wire in the company of none other than messrs astbury & bursa. god knows where they'd flown in to, as i'm pretty sure we'd traveled by car the breadth of alabama & maybe mississippi as well. when they realized just how musically dismal montgomery is, they started urging me to accompany them back to the uk, using a free frequent-flyers ticket ... alas, the dream ended before wire came on. we saw only a bit of the first act, some single-named female singer (no, not dido, madonna or cher), & were waiting for the penultimate band, teenage fan club. the crowd also included my first wife &, in another section, an old friend whom i haven't seen since the mid-'80s & who lives in the atlanta area, & who of course was the aforementioned first wife's first husband (don't ask). dan >"Clements, Bruno - BUP" wrote:I think everyone's hard at work (like me) or perhaps in bed (in the US)... >:-) >Unlike me......got to bed at 2:00 a.m this morning (working on re-arranging the trailer/deck) and woke up/got up at 6:00 a.m,still hard at it..........yawn. Ari > >********************************************************************** >This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and >intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they >are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify >the system manager. > >This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by >MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. > >www.mimesweeper.com >********************************************************************** >Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 21:18:06 +0100 From: "Ian B" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Pink Flags - ----- Original Message ----- From: > Back in the 70s, the bus that ran between Preston and Blackpool was the 154. Mark ...and in the film Taxi Driver, Travis Bickle supplies a bogus name and address to a secret service man, (Henry Krinkle, 154 Hopper Avenue). Also, when Betsy bails on him after he takes her to the porno cinema, she gets into cab 154 Ian B ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 21:20:01 +0100 From: "Ian B" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] O.T:is the list alive ...??? Is this in JULY? - ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Astbury To: Woerner Frank-Juergen ; Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] O.T:is the list alive ...??? > Bloody hell, it's Frank!! > > Where have you been??? > > Not sure how close you are to Berlin, but did you see the email re Graham & > Bruce there in July? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Woerner Frank-Juergen" > To: > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 3:50 PM > Subject: AW: [idealcopy] O.T:is the list alive ...??? > > > > test, sorry > > > > > ............................................................................ > ................... > > Mit freundlichem Gru_ / kind regards > > Frank J|rgen Wvrner > > Siemens Business Services GmbH & Co. OHG > > Scripting Competence Center > > ORS GD CWS CC14 > > Hartmannstrasse 17 > > D - 91052 Erlangen > > Tel. +49 (9131) 844829 > > Fax +49 (9131) 844770 > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 21:57:02 +0100 From: "sean bowen" Subject: [idealcopy] re : Classic Stuff Andrew, I'd be interested to know how you get on following all our suggestions in response to your request for info on Serious music suitable for Wire fans. I started to seek out new musical genres around '94 while waiting for a successor to "The First Letter", when the Oasis/Blur thing was beginning to happen and I'd run out of decent new pop to listen to. After a while, I'd still failed to discover any modern composers who I consistently enjoyed, (except people like Sibelius, Vaughan Williams and Holst who I always liked anyway.) The problem for someone coming from a rock background is that there's not the same emphasis on rhythm and repetition. Just when you get into a groove, it goes off in another direction. That's why the American cyclic or minimalist types are an exception. I like some of John Adams' early stuff, e.g. "Shaker Loops". Also, some slow dirgey stuff such as a couple pieces by contemporary Baltic Peteris Vasks : "Cantabile" and "Symphony for Strings". But generally, I much prefer Baroque dinosaurs like Bach, Telemann and Vivaldi. IMHO, stay well clear of all the 20th century giants; Schoenberg, Varese, Ives, Berg, Messian, Webern, Boulez, Stockhausen etc, as they're just a horrible noise. And avoid at all costs Radio 3's contemporary showcase "Hear and Now" on Saturday nights, which is full of pretentious, soulless, atonal, arhythmic gesturing and gimmickry; the aural equivalent of Concept Art. You might get more out of investigating other pop strands, e.g. '60s psychedelia, or recent ambient techno. You might even be better off sticking to your overblown prog-rock ! Happy listening ! Sean. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 15:58:10 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] re : Classic Stuff > >> IMHO, stay well clear of all the 20th century giants; Schoenberg, > Varese, Ives, Berg, Messian, Webern, Boulez, Stockhausen etc, as they're > just a horrible noise.<< > > Nice to see you avoiding the sweeping generalisation, Sean ;-) > > Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 22:11:55 +0100 From: "ian s jackson" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] re : Classic Stuff And avoid at all costs Radio 3's contemporary >showcase "Hear and Now" on Saturday nights, which is full of pretentious, >soulless, atonal, arhythmic gesturing and gimmickry; the aural equivalent >of >Concept Art. just thought i'd chip in here...but...speaking of Radio 3, i was just flicking around the dial last week and caught an edition of 'Late Junction' which i found really interesting...i suspect you might pick up some good pointers there Andrew... oh, and...can i also mention Erik Satie...??? a favourite of mine...not being as up on all this stuff as other listees... ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________ Find a cheaper internet access deal - choose one to suit you. http://www.msn.co.uk/internetaccess ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 22:15:35 +0100 From: "j.hobson" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] re : Classic Stuff - ----- Original Message ----- From: "sean bowen" To: Cc: "ideal copy" Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 9:57 PM Subject: [idealcopy] re : Classic Stuff > IMHO, stay well clear of all the 20th century giants; Schoenberg, > Varese, Ives, Berg, Messian, Webern, Boulez, Stockhausen etc, as they're > just a horrible noise. Messian...surely not. As Radiohead proved, he's easily adaptable to other forms. He wrote for a real audience (Quartet for the end of time was performed when he was POW for other POWs). The others have their moments, the problem is that they disappeared up their collective serial exhaust pipe. >And avoid at all costs Radio 3's contemporary > showcase "Hear and Now" on Saturday nights, which is full of pretentious, > soulless, atonal, arhythmic gesturing and gimmickry; the aural equivalent of > Concept Art. However do check out Radio 3s Late Junction and Mixing it (all available on the net). These are eclectic programs which will always turn up gems as well as the downright bizarre. Like Godspeed You Black Emperors followed by Mozart followed by mongolian throat singers! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:30:04 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] RE: The Who In a message dated 29/03/2004 18:24:20 GMT Standard Time, MarkBursa@aol.com writes: > Have to say, the sound of Pino's wobbly fretless bass noodling is one of > the > least pleasant noises in popular music history... > > ///////i recall a long time ago pondering over the line up of the world's worst band , and i think you may just have filled in the missing slot :-) p ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 17:00:32 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] re : Classic Stuff In a message dated 3/29/04 2:55:18 PM Central Standard Time, sean.bowen@ukgateway.net writes: > IMHO, stay well clear of all the 20th century giants; Schoenberg, > Varese, Ives, Berg, Messian, Webern, Boulez, Stockhausen etc, as they're > just a horrible noise. one man's "noise" is another man's bliss... give me Stockhausen or Cage over Wagner anyday.... RL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 23:10:35 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] O.T:is the list alive ...??? > > Not sure how close you are to Berlin, but did you see the email re Graham & > > Bruce there in July? From: "Ian B" > Is this in JULY? Oops. My mistake. 22&23 June. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 23:16:51 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] O.T:is the list alive ...??? > whereas i was in bed dreaming that i was in atlanta (at an amphitheatre > indistinguishable from north little rock's) to see wire in the company of > none other than messrs astbury & bursa. god knows where they'd flown in to, > as i'm pretty sure we'd traveled by car the breadth of alabama & maybe > mississippi as well. when they realized just how musically dismal montgomery > is, they started urging me to accompany them back to the uk, using a free > frequent-flyers ticket ... Hahahahaha. That's excellent, Dan!! I can't remember what they were now, but I've had IC related dreams, too. Bit worrying, isn't it ; ) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 00:12:39 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] O.T:is the list alive ...??? Dan Usually other people's dreams are of little interest but yours are something else - your recollection is so specific! Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of dan bailey Sent: 29 March 2004 20:30 To: ideal copy Subject: Re: [idealcopy] O.T:is the list alive ...??? whereas i was in bed dreaming that i was in atlanta (at an amphitheatre indistinguishable from north little rock's) to see wire in the company of none other than messrs astbury & bursa. god knows where they'd flown in to, as i'm pretty sure we'd traveled by car the breadth of alabama & maybe mississippi as well. when they realized just how musically dismal montgomery is, they started urging me to accompany them back to the uk, using a free frequent-flyers ticket ... alas, the dream ended before wire came on. we saw only a bit of the first act, some single-named female singer (no, not dido, madonna or cher), & were waiting for the penultimate band, teenage fan club. the crowd also included my first wife &, in another section, an old friend whom i haven't seen since the mid-'80s & who lives in the atlanta area, & who of course was the aforementioned first wife's first husband (don't ask). dan >"Clements, Bruno - BUP" wrote:I think everyone's hard at work (like me) or perhaps in bed (in the US)... >:-) >Unlike me......got to bed at 2:00 a.m this morning (working on re-arranging the trailer/deck) and woke up/got up at 6:00 a.m,still hard at it..........yawn. Ari > >********************************************************************** >This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and >intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they >are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify >the system manager. > >This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by >MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. > >www.mimesweeper.com >********************************************************************** >Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 00:24:48 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] re : Classic Stuff There's a lot of Stockhausen that I like - especially Stimmung and Hymnen. Messiaen too. There is a link between some of those Sean mentions - Schoenberg, Berg, Webern and Boulez especially - in terms of serial music which I also find unappealing. But Stockhausen and Messiaen are a quite different animal - Varese also. Another the Keith (who, whenever Webern is mentioned immediately thinks of Peter Greenaway's proposed film / opera, 'The Death of Webern and Others', which was originally proposed at his height in the 80s and would therefore have been a great list film about the odd deaths of composers - Webern of course having been gunned down by an American soldier in occupied Berlin towards the end of WW2). - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of RLynn9@aol.com Sent: 29 March 2004 23:01 To: sean.bowen@ukgateway.net; andrew-wire@lexical.org.uk Cc: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] re : Classic Stuff In a message dated 3/29/04 2:55:18 PM Central Standard Time, sean.bowen@ukgateway.net writes: > IMHO, stay well clear of all the 20th century giants; Schoenberg, > Varese, Ives, Berg, Messian, Webern, Boulez, Stockhausen etc, as they're > just a horrible noise. one man's "noise" is another man's bliss... give me Stockhausen or Cage over Wagner anyday.... RL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 18:56:59 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] re : Classic Stuff In a message dated 3/29/04 3:55:18 PM, sean.bowen@ukgateway.net writes: > IMHO, stay well clear of all the 20th century giants; Schoenberg, > >Varese, Ives, Berg, Messian, Webern, Boulez, Stockhausen etc, as they're > >just a horrible noise. oh my. i wasn't going to recommend any of those guys as an intro, but i certainly would recommend them highly once someone has crossed the bridge from rockville. - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 01:38:18 +0100 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] RE: The Who On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 04:30:04PM -0500, PaulRabjohn@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 29/03/2004 18:24:20 GMT Standard Time, MarkBursa@aol.com > writes: > > > Have to say, the sound of Pino's wobbly fretless bass noodling is one of > > the > > least pleasant noises in popular music history... > > > > > > ///////i recall a long time ago pondering over the line up of the world's > worst band , and i think you may just have filled in the missing slot :-) p Do go on. I'm intrigued. (Mark "Level42" King had bass sewn up in my world.) - - A - -- Earth Sciences, University of Cambridge http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ Programme Controller, CUR1350 http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ email: andrew@lexical.org.uk Random Walk ::: Wednesday, 11pm ::: cur1350.co.uk ::: is this music? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 01:43:29 +0100 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] re : Classic Stuff On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 09:57:02PM +0100, sean bowen wrote: > Andrew, I'd be interested to know how you get on following all our > suggestions in response to your request for info on Serious music suitable > for Wire fans. As soon as I get a chance to get into a record shop with a decent classical section, I'm going to be spending some money. I'll report back... > You might get more out of investigating other pop strands, e.g. '60s > psychedelia, or recent ambient techno. You might even be better off sticking > to your overblown prog-rock ! Well, I'm not into prog per-se; but "My Father My King" is still a wonderful, transporting racket. That's the kind of thing I meant. As for techno: Ulrich Schnauss's "A Strangely Isolated Place" was my favourite record of last year, and I've recently been enjoying the odd track from Manitoba, Four Tet, Casino vs. Japan, Boards of Canad (of course), et al... - - Andrew - -- Earth Sciences, University of Cambridge http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ Programme Controller, CUR1350 http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ email: andrew@lexical.org.uk Random Walk ::: Wednesday, 11pm ::: cur1350.co.uk ::: is this music? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 01:48:07 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) From: "Tim" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] re : Classic Stuff Was tempted to delve into the realms of the Classical recently due to reading Paul Morleys excellent and ridiculous "Words & Music", and due to their not being much around at the moment...compunded by the dissapointment of hearing Franz Ferdinand and finding that they were not the Josef K... just a better looking, more Scottish version of The Strokes. Anyone got that 'OHM: Early Gurus of Electronic Music' compilation? Looks like a good intro to such matters but appears to be deleted. Anyway, for now I am content with this weeks new purchases which have restored my faith. They are: Casino Versus Japan: Hitori + Kaiso: If you like Ulrich Schnauss and Boards of Canada, here is a nice blend of both to immerse your brain in...with loads of reverb (unusual as everyone seems obsessed with flat production these days). cLOUDEAD: Ten : If "See You On the Other Side" era Mercury Rev decided to make a Hip Hop album, or if Kevin Shields produced the Beastie Boys it would probably sound a bit like this....incredibly eerie, dark, and sometimes bleak but in a strangely pleasant way...... - -------Original Message------- From: RLynn9@aol.com Date: 03/29/04 23:07:00 To: sean.bowen@ukgateway.net; andrew-wire@lexical.org.uk Cc: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] re : Classic Stuff In a message dated 3/29/04 2:55:18 PM Central Standard Time, sean.bowen@ukgateway.net writes: > IMHO, stay well clear of all the 20th century giants; Schoenberg, > Varese, Ives, Berg, Messian, Webern, Boulez, Stockhausen etc, as they're > just a horrible noise. one man's "noise" is another man's bliss... give me Stockhausen or Cage over Wagner anyday.... RL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 17:30:43 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: Re: [idealcopy] O.T:is the list alive ...??? BY GUM LADDY you do have some wierd dreams.whatcha on? dan bailey wrote:whereas i was in bed dreaming that i was in atlanta (at an amphitheatre indistinguishable from north little rock's) to see wire in the company of none other than messrs astbury & bursa. god knows where they'd flown in to, as i'm pretty sure we'd traveled by car the breadth of alabama & maybe mississippi as well. when they realized just how musically dismal montgomery is, they started urging me to accompany them back to the uk, using a free frequent-flyers ticket ... alas, the dream ended before wire came on. we saw only a bit of the first act, some single-named female singer (no, not dido, madonna or cher), & were waiting for the penultimate band, teenage fan club. the crowd also included my first wife &, in another section, an old friend whom i haven't seen since the mid-'80s & who lives in the atlanta area, & who of course was the aforementioned first wife's first husband (don't ask). dan >"Clements, Bruno - BUP" wrote:I think everyone's hard at work (like me) or perhaps in bed (in the US)... >:-) >Unlike me......got to bed at 2:00 a.m this morning (working on re-arranging the trailer/deck) and woke up/got up at 6:00 a.m,still hard at it..........yawn. Ari > >********************************************************************** >This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and >intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they >are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify >the system manager. > >This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by >MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. > >www.mimesweeper.com >********************************************************************** >Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 01:02:18 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] O.T:is the list alive ...??? oh, depakote, celexa & trazodone, though this sort of thing has been going on since childhood. nothing to compare to hp lovecraft's well-documented dreams (which isn't to say i haven't had at least one dream about lovecraft himself, some 29 years ago). damn. dan >BY GUM LADDY you do have some wierd dreams.whatcha on? > >dan bailey wrote:whereas i was in bed dreaming that i was in atlanta (at an amphitheatre >indistinguishable from north little rock's) to see wire in the company of >none other than messrs astbury & bursa. god knows where they'd flown in to, >as i'm pretty sure we'd traveled by car the breadth of alabama & maybe >mississippi as well. when they realized just how musically dismal montgomery >is, they started urging me to accompany them back to the uk, using a free >frequent-flyers ticket ... > >alas, the dream ended before wire came on. we saw only a bit of the first >act, some single-named female singer (no, not dido, madonna or cher), & were >waiting for the penultimate band, teenage fan club. the crowd also included >my first wife &, in another section, an old friend whom i haven't seen since >the mid-'80s & who lives in the atlanta area, & who of course was the >aforementioned first wife's first husband (don't ask). > >dan > > >>"Clements, Bruno - BUP" wrote:I think everyone's >hard at work (like me) or perhaps in bed (in the US)... >>:-) >>Unlike me......got to bed at 2:00 a.m this morning (working on re-arranging >the trailer/deck) and woke up/got up at 6:00 a.m,still hard at >it..........yawn. 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File on time. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 10:16:18 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] RE: The Who > > > Have to say, the sound of Pino's wobbly fretless bass noodling is one of > > > the > > > least pleasant noises in popular music history... > > > > ///////i recall a long time ago pondering over the line up of the world's > > worst band , and i think you may just have filled in the missing slot :-) p > > > Do go on. I'm intrigued. (Mark "Level42" King had bass sewn up in my world.) > > - A And on guitar... Put your hands together for Mr Brian May... Keith (who thinks the Franz Ferdinand album is a really good pop record) np Stereolab - margerine eclipse ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V7 #99 ******************************