From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V7 #97 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Sunday, March 28 2004 Volume 07 : Number 097 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] more videos (and audio files) ["Mileta Okiljevic" ] Re: [idealcopy] Jesus out despite spirited fightback [Tisbili@aol.com] [idealcopy] WHO ARE YOU? ["Clements, Bruno - BUP" ] [idealcopy] More classic stuff [Fergus Kelly ] Re: [idealcopy] Classic stuff ["j.hobson" ] Re: [idealcopy] Classic stuff [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] More classic stuff [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] More classic stuff [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Classic stuff ["j.hobson" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 11:24:37 +0100 From: "Mileta Okiljevic" Subject: [idealcopy] more videos (and audio files) I just find, too, this german web-zine (in german language) after suggestio from Mum mailing list. Under section BILD you can find in alphabetical order ( you just need to open every letter separate) many videos from artist mentioned on list(s) - like Goldgrapp, Ilya ( for whom i get recommendations from both Tindersticks and Scott Walker fans), Go Betweens,Belle And Sebastian etc... i was pleasantly surprised when i saw video from Giardino Di Miro !!! ;-) Their last year album " Punk, Not Diet" was in my top 10 last year near Fleischmann, Four Tet, Cul De Sac. Silver Mt.Zion, Sylvian ,Mogwai etc,etc... for those who don't know they remind me in extreme fresh combination of Mogwai who just heard Ride, but still think JD is best band ever... highly recommended!!!! best italian band !!! Under section TON you can find mp3 od bands like Giradino Di Miro, Electralane, ScheneiderTM, etc,etc i haven't time to make a reasearch links are http://www.spex.de/web/ton_index.php http://www.spex.de/web/bild_index.php http://www.spex.de/web/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 03:46:55 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] Fwd: GHOST TOWN Maybe of interest to some,it's Chernobyl as it is today,maybe the boys could write a song about it..............Ari http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/kiddofspeed/ Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 08:36:32 EST From: Tisbili@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Jesus out despite spirited fightback been afk for a week or so, so this is old news, but I'm guessing that the winning side must have had Santa on their team. "This time we end it..." billy =-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 13:35:45 -0000 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: [idealcopy] WHO ARE YOU? - ---I remember reading a Who article a few years ago where Daltrey said if he had known about Gary Glitter interest in kiddie porn when he knew him years ago he would have punched him. One can only hope he twatted his big nosed guitarist when he heard about HIS computer. Oh, they're working together again, aren't they. Still, it was all in the name of research, wasn't it. If they're thinking of names for their next album can I suggest Who's The Hypocrite & Who's The Pervert. >>>Glitter was convicted (of possessing child porn and having sex with an under-age girl) and Townshend was cautioned (with possession). I don't think I'd still have my (few) Who records or gone to see him/them if he'd been convicted of what Glitter was. The full interview PT gave to the Observer is here for those interested. http://observer.guardian.co.uk/review/story/0,6903,1113014,00.html Bruno ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 10:01:36 -0800 (PST) From: Fergus Kelly Subject: [idealcopy] More classic stuff Andrew asked: Okay, this provides me with an excuse to ask something I've been meaning to for ages. :) Modern Classical/art music. Which of it is worth listening to, as an introduction for someone with ears attuned to the ridiculously overblown end of post-rock ))) There's someone else I meant to mention, a seriously talented, but undervalued composer by the name of Simon Fisher Turner. He did most of the soundtracks to Derek Jarman's films. This material is his strongest work I think (Carravaggio 1610, The Last of England, The Garden, Blue). A fascinating mix of field recordings, string quartets, choral, beats, and all manner of other instruments, sounds and processing Other solo stuff worth a listen: Schwarma (featuring some Gilbert noises, though you'd have to listen very closely !) Oh Venus Swift On a similar note in some respects, predating all of this, is the Godfather of Ambient (the term he coined himself), Brian Eno. Albums of note in a rather large ouevre: Ambient 1: Music For Airports Ambient 4: On Land Music For Films The Shutov Assembly This is extremely selective you understand ! Amongst the many people Eno worked with was a Canadian composer/trumpeter Jon Hassell, who forged a distinctly original and intriguing soundworld in the early 80s he called Fourth World, using a strange melt of ethnic and electronic instruments and processes. Albums of note: Fourth World Vol.1: Possible Musics Dream Theory in Malaya Aka-Darbari-Java: Magic Realism Power Spot Fergus np - Iggy Pop: The Idiot __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 21:56:02 -0000 From: "j.hobson" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Classic stuff Some more to check out (and apologies for lack of spelling) Phillip Glass Koyanaskatsi is his best work. Get it on DVD as it really does work as a combined bet of film and music. Glass hasn't the range of Reich and gets at bit too repetitive :-) even for a minamilist. Terry Riley Rainbow in Curved Air and Poppy Nogood and the phantom Band. The breakthrough record along with his In C. Messian He's been ransacked by RadioHead for ideas...Quartet for the End of Time and Turangalia most assessible. A personal choice are post war Polish composers. They seemed to have ignored the utter dead end of serialism and developed their own distinctive late 20th century sound. They all commit the crime of being listenable to without falling into to the trap of rewriting romantic twaddle. Most of them suffered under the Nazis then the commies (and probably half baked capitalism now). If you like one, you;; like the rest. Why they aren't better known or played is beyond me. Lutoslawski A genuine post war giant. Start off with Chain Panufnik, a personal favourite.All his early stuff. Radio 3 (as the Third Program) once cut a broadcast of his Sinfonia sacra because it didn't fit the serial diktat of the early sixties. Fought the Nazis, escaped the commies was practically beggared in the UK but lived long enough to return home a hero and get a knighthood! Daughter also composes but the jury's out there. Gsrecki Symphony No. 3 is Minimalism with a heart. Written a lot more and suprised they turned up William Orbits classical Cd. Go for post 85 stuff Pendericki another very approachable composer Kilar Stuck in film composers ghetto (He arranged the Piano Player lately) and very exapansive tunes. Naxos do a good selection for a fiver. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 20:26:13 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Classic stuff In a message dated 3/27/04 3:57:27 PM Central Standard Time, xerif@dsl.pipex.com writes: > Phillip Glass > Koyanaskatsi is his best work. Get it on DVD as it really does work as a > combined bet of film and music. >>>> > > i'd have to disagree with this.....what about Einstein on the Beach? Music With Changing Parts? Music in 5ths? The Northstar? Music in Twelve Parts? RL np - Pete Namlook and Jochem Paap ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 20:30:42 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] More classic stuff In a message dated 3/27/04 12:25:05 PM Central Standard Time, lockupyourhats@yahoo.com writes: > Godfather of Ambient (the term he coined > himself), Brian Eno. > > Albums of note in a rather large ouevre: > > Ambient 1: Music For Airports > > Ambient 4: On Land > > Music For Films > > The Shutov Assembly > > This is extremely selective you understand !>>>>>> you can't go wrong with any of Eno's stuff.....you can add Apollo Soundtracks and Discreet Music to my list of favorites...not to mention the The Pearl and Plateaux of Mirror in collaboration with Harold Budd RL ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 21:03:36 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] More classic stuff In a message dated 3/27/04 8:39:18 PM, RLynn9@aol.com writes (regarding eno): >with Harold Budd then there's always budd by himself. very nice stuff. also collaborated with several postpunk pop artists. the moon and the melodies (with cocteau twins) could be a nice bridge toward his music...although i think he's pretty accessible already. wim mertens (soft verdict) is also a nice postpunkpopclassical type of guy. if you like sigur ros vocals, you won't be too far off here, and musically he'll lead you in the direction of glass, reich, et al. - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 08:00:01 +0100 From: "j.hobson" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Classic stuff Can you tell the difference? Having sat through Akenaten and his La Belle et Beast I realised he had one tune. ----- Original Message ----- From: RLynn9@aol.com To: xerif@dsl.pipex.com ; idealcopy@smoe.org Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 2:26 AM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Classic stuff In a message dated 3/27/04 3:57:27 PM Central Standard Time, xerif@dsl.pipex.com writes: Phillip Glass Koyanaskatsi is his best work. Get it on DVD as it really does work as a combined bet of film and music. >>>> i'd have to disagree with this.....what about Einstein on the Beach? Music With Changing Parts? Music in 5ths? The Northstar? Music in Twelve Parts? RL np - Pete Namlook and Jochem Paap ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V7 #97 ******************************