From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V7 #94 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Thursday, March 25 2004 Volume 07 : Number 094 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Re: idealcopy-digest V7 #93 [rys01ajc@gold.ac.uk] [idealcopy] Idealcopy-digest V7 #93 ["Clements, Bruno - BUP" ] Re: [idealcopy] Jesus Christ [Andrew Walkingshaw ] Re: [idealcopy] Re: idealcopy-digest V7 #93 [Derek White Subject: [idealcopy] Idealcopy-digest V7 #93 - -----Original Message----- ...As for Wire the art band - I remember an early interview where the journalist asked them for their influences... Bruce has also said he has "artist" on hiss passport but thinks Colin may have "musician or producer" on his. They have definitely said they used punk, at the time of "Pink Flag", as the then appropriate vehicle for what they were trying to do. There's little in the imagery or lyrical, sorry textual, content to put them in the same camp as most "punk" bands. Tony. Nice points - I don't think we have had occupations on passports for some years in the UK. Still, they might have done back in '76-'77. Bruno ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. 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I know I'm replying to an old thread but I'm still trying to get through a mountain of mail. Luckily I'm not interested in the Pixies or Pere Ubu....;-) cheers A > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason Rogers [mailto:inspectorjason@hotmail.com] > Sent: 10 March 2004 00:03 > To: idealcopy@smoe.org > Subject: [idealcopy] RE: hotlanta > > > >Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 15:48:34 GMT > >From: P J Kane > >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] RE: hotlanta > > > ><< Einsturzende Neubauten at Masquerade, etc. >> > > > >when is this show? it's not mentioned in the Masq's ad's as > of yet, and i > >can never find their >website... > > The Einsturzende Neubauten show is set for mid-May at the > Masquerade and > tickets are onsale right now on Ticketmaster, I think. > > It would be a great one. Not sure if I'll be there, as I'm > going to spend > the next year getting some financial ducks in a row in order > to buy a house > (and meanwhile watch helplessly as the interest rate goes > up). What can I > say? I could buy a house right now, but the ones in my > price range are too > far out beyond the 285 perimeter for me to enjoy the commute > and I'm afraid > to invest in a condo because several friends of mine have > horror stories > about trying to sell their own condos. Might set a few > bucks aside for > the Einsturzende Neubauten show, though. > > > > >i enjoyed it very much as well. still a quality act. what > is up with > >Kilbey's beard and long hair -- he >looked like a LotR cast > reject... did > >he get a cameo in one of the movies? > > > > Steve Kilbey's performance did surprise me. The long hair > and the beard > made him look a lot like Ted Kaczynski or someone like that. > Peter Koppes > and Marty Wilson-Piper looked just like I expected they > would, though. > The recent Peter Koppes song, "Appalatia", was one of my > personal highlights > of the show. > > > For all of the Pixies talk going on: > My personal favorite Pixies albums are Surfer Rosa and > Bossanova. You > really can't go wrong with anything that the Pixies have > released, though; > it's all worth a purchase. I discovered Pixies back in > 1989 shortly > after Dolittle was released and the band was a soundtrack to > my college > years shortly afterward because I quickly bought every single > Pixies release > that was out thus far. My Pixies collection didn't help me > get more > dates, but I did have some great music to listen to while not dating. > > The funny thing about Pixies is that every person whom I've > recommended a > Pixies album to has gone out and bought all of the Pixies > releases shortly > thereafter. I've never had a friend tell me, "I bought > that Pixies album > you suggested and it's alright." Instead, everyone has > said, "I bought > that Pixies album that you suggested and then I went out and > bought all of > the other ones over that next month." I don't know anyone > who has just > one Pixies album. People that I've come across either have > every Pixies > release or none at all. > > One of my great music regrets is not having seen Pixies back > when they were > (originally) together. Hopefully, that will be remedied > within the next > year if Pixies tour Atlanta on the second run. If that > happens, and if > New Order will get their asses over here to Atlanta after their > currently-in-the-making album, then the last two bands on my > "must see > before I die" list will be taken care of. > > > Jason > > _________________________________________________________________ > Frustrated with dial-up? Lightning-fast Internet access for as low as > $29.95/month. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200360ave/direct/01/ > ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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Though my personal favourites would be 'Sextet', 'Music for wind, strings and keyboards', 'Electrioc Counterpoint' Andrew said: Taupe, as immortalised in at least one of the "Beattie" BT ads of the 80s, I think - or that's where I know it from. Remembering TV ads from when I was about six is slightly disturbing. ))) Yeah, that's where it's from alright, with the inimitable Maureen Lipman playing the fusty old aunt talking about her favourite colour for a sweater. What that colour is to sweaters is kind of like what the colour magnolia is to interior decorating. Like Keith, such is my devotion that I taped it as I was working that night. Thoroughly enjoyable, and well done Andrew. Sorry to see the good Lord go. Poxman must occupy a high league table position for speed reading. Fergus np - Keith Rowe & John Tilbury : Duos for Doris __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 16:09:28 +0000 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Jesus Christ On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 07:46:14AM -0800, Fergus Kelly wrote: > Keith said: > > I've never heard of Tope either. Although I can > thoroughly recommend > 'Drumming' - one of Reich's finest pieces. > > ))) SO disappointed you didn't get this Andrew ! ;) > Indeed a compelling record. Though my personal > favourites would be 'Sextet', 'Music for wind, strings > and keyboards', 'Electrioc Counterpoint' Okay, this provides me with an excuse to ask something I've been meaning to for ages. :) Modern Classical/art music. Which of it is worth listening to, as an introduction for someone with ears attuned to the ridiculously overblown end of post-rock (gy!be, Explosions in the Sky, Sigur Ros, Mogwai) and the "nice" end of electronica (Boards of Canada, Four Tet, Ulrich Schnauss, et al)? It's always felt like something I'd enjoy, but I have not the foggiest where to start... - - Andrew - -- Earth Sciences, University of Cambridge http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ Programme Controller, CUR1350 http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ email: andrew@lexical.org.uk Random Walk ::: Wednesday, 11pm ::: cur1350.co.uk ::: is this music? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 09:26:34 -0800 (PST) From: Derek White Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Jesus out despite spirited fightback: belated commiserations.. Keith Knight wrote: Yes, indeed, bad luck AndrewWow, what a nail-biting finish ! And what a heroic performance from Brainbox Walkingshaw ! Such breadth of knowledge. And there wasn't even a Wire question ! So near to glory, and yet so far...... Well done Andrew. Hope you enjoyed it all. Sean. //// I'd (belatedly) like to add my commiserations to Andrew, on his spirited performance on the 'box the other night. That was *very nearly* one of the best comebacks in any arena, anytime. About 8 minutes to go, and trailing by some 90 points, it looked like you were utterly dead and buried, but a phenomenal run where it seemed the opposition were always 2nd to the buzzer saw Jesus close to a 15 point deficit, and still no sign of running out of steam, when the other lot were 'saved by the bell'. I have littele doubt you had them on the ropes: another couple of minutes and I believe you'd have had them. Well done to all concerned, and I too hope you all enjoyed it......... ps I didn't get two of the three reggae-based questions, either......:-( Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 17:32:20 +0000 From: "Jason Rogers" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] RE: hotlanta Much appreciated. The Einsturzende Neubauten show grows more tempting as it approaches. I may shell out for it after all. I'm a bit disappointed with a recent show development in Atlanta. The good news is that David Bowie is, at long last, coming to Atlanta for part of his Reality tour. The bad news is that David Bowie will be playing at Chastain Park Amphitheatre, which is the absolute worst place for a serious music fan to see a concert here in this city. Even with the "rock setup" at Chastain, the volume restrictions still apply, as the venue is in a suburban area, and you can hear people talking loudly throughout the show. It's a shame, as I would like to see Bowie again (I saw the Sound + Vision tour back in 1990), but don't want to see him at such a shameful venue. Jason >From: Alistair Tear >To: 'Jason Rogers' >CC: "Wire (E-mail)" >Subject: RE: [idealcopy] RE: hotlanta >Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 12:49:40 -0000 > >Saw Neubauten in Prague a couple of weeks ago >and I urge you to see them if you can... >The set is based around the new album with lots >of older stuff thrown into the mix (no Ende Neu though) >Don't know how much it changes from gig to gig. > >Apart from the show, the REALLY cool thing is they've >got the technology in place to sell cd's of the performance >at the end of the gig...numbered, with a pic of the band onstage >that very night, inside. So I got a 2 CD souvenir, which sounds >great. And Alex Hacke was nice enough to autograph it. >You can down load a setlist from the website for 3 days after. > >I know I'm replying to an old thread but I'm still trying to get >through a mountain of mail. Luckily I'm not interested in the >Pixies or Pere Ubu....;-) > >cheers > >A > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jason Rogers [mailto:inspectorjason@hotmail.com] > > Sent: 10 March 2004 00:03 > > To: idealcopy@smoe.org > > Subject: [idealcopy] RE: hotlanta > > > > > > >Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 15:48:34 GMT > > >From: P J Kane > > >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] RE: hotlanta > > > > > ><< Einsturzende Neubauten at Masquerade, etc. >> > > > > > >when is this show? it's not mentioned in the Masq's ad's as > > of yet, and i > > >can never find their >website... > > > > The Einsturzende Neubauten show is set for mid-May at the > > Masquerade and > > tickets are onsale right now on Ticketmaster, I think. > > > > It would be a great one. Not sure if I'll be there, as I'm > > going to spend > > the next year getting some financial ducks in a row in order > > to buy a house > > (and meanwhile watch helplessly as the interest rate goes > > up). What can I > > say? I could buy a house right now, but the ones in my > > price range are too > > far out beyond the 285 perimeter for me to enjoy the commute > > and I'm afraid > > to invest in a condo because several friends of mine have > > horror stories > > about trying to sell their own condos. Might set a few > > bucks aside for > > the Einsturzende Neubauten show, though. > > > > > > > >i enjoyed it very much as well. still a quality act. what > > is up with > > >Kilbey's beard and long hair -- he >looked like a LotR cast > > reject... did > > >he get a cameo in one of the movies? > > > > > > > Steve Kilbey's performance did surprise me. The long hair > > and the beard > > made him look a lot like Ted Kaczynski or someone like that. > > Peter Koppes > > and Marty Wilson-Piper looked just like I expected they > > would, though. > > The recent Peter Koppes song, "Appalatia", was one of my > > personal highlights > > of the show. > > > > > > For all of the Pixies talk going on: > > My personal favorite Pixies albums are Surfer Rosa and > > Bossanova. You > > really can't go wrong with anything that the Pixies have > > released, though; > > it's all worth a purchase. I discovered Pixies back in > > 1989 shortly > > after Dolittle was released and the band was a soundtrack to > > my college > > years shortly afterward because I quickly bought every single > > Pixies release > > that was out thus far. My Pixies collection didn't help me > > get more > > dates, but I did have some great music to listen to while not dating. > > > > The funny thing about Pixies is that every person whom I've > > recommended a > > Pixies album to has gone out and bought all of the Pixies > > releases shortly > > thereafter. I've never had a friend tell me, "I bought > > that Pixies album > > you suggested and it's alright." Instead, everyone has > > said, "I bought > > that Pixies album that you suggested and then I went out and > > bought all of > > the other ones over that next month." I don't know anyone > > who has just > > one Pixies album. People that I've come across either have > > every Pixies > > release or none at all. > > > > One of my great music regrets is not having seen Pixies back > > when they were > > (originally) together. Hopefully, that will be remedied > > within the next > > year if Pixies tour Atlanta on the second run. If that > > happens, and if > > New Order will get their asses over here to Atlanta after their > > currently-in-the-making album, then the last two bands on my > > "must see > > before I die" list will be taken care of. > > > > > > Jason > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Frustrated with dial-up? Lightning-fast Internet access for as low as > > $29.95/month. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200360ave/direct/01/ > > >************************************************************************* >The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and >intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are >addressed. Transport for London Street Management hereby excludes any >warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of >this e-mail and any attached transmitted files. If you are not the intended >recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that >any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is >strictly prohibited. > >If you have received this e-mail in error please notify >postmaster@Streetmanagement.org.uk. > >This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the >presence of computer viruses. >************************************************************************* _________________________________________________________________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page  FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 10:19:44 -0800 (PST) From: Derek White Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: idealcopy-digest V7 #93 rys01ajc@gold.ac.uk wrote: As for Wire the art band .......... I thought that Wire were art/punk - and probably more art than punk. They seem to always use language that would support the view that they are "artists". They write texts not lyrics, according to Bruce they "execute the items" where most bands play their songs. They have definitely said they used punk, at the time of "Pink Flag", as the then appropriate vehicle for what they were trying to do. There's little in the imagery or lyrical, sorry textual, content to put them in the same camp as most "punk" bands. Certainly they are a band apart from most of the posturing 'mockney'-voiced bands that were doing the rounds at the time of their inception, and if they were saddled with the label 'punk' that was probably because of similarities in style rather than substance, and a convenient journalistic shorthand for the writers in the music press. I tend to agree that they write 'texts' at least as much as they write lyrics:- I mean, I can't say I can recall a piece where they've EXACTLY strained themselves trying to get a word to form a rhyming couplet with some obscure first line, and thank goodness for that. The somewhat ..um..'tangental' nature of Wire 'lyrics' are a continual delight to me: kind of like the linguistic equivalent of impressionist painting, at times, where strings of words, by their obscurity, invite you to make of them what you will. Clever stuff, I think..... I *do* however wish that they'd given us the benefit of a 'text-sheet' for "Send", though...;-) Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 15:46:56 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] speaking of kj ... >well dan , the band you are referring to is undoubtedly red beat. i think 2 of >howard jones brothers were in the band , but i'm pretty sure not howie himself whose young son, of course, played the proto-eno character in velvet goldmine ... (as if.....). when howie's career took off i think the brothers ended up in his touring band , somehow i suspect no red beat numbers were in the set. > >first RB single (on malicious damage) is really good , there were two more on their own label maybe not quite so great. in a bizarre piece of synchronicity i got hold of a copy of their peel session last saturday , so great timing for your mail dan. i wonder if there's any chance anyone'll ever reissue red beat's stuff, including peel session & live (the only way, i suspect, to round out an anywhere-near-full disc)? i know they're pretty obscure, but more than one review i've seen has identified them as the highlight of the recentish dub meets punk rockers uptown comp, or whatever it's called. > >ski patrol did 4 singles , the 2 on malicious damage were very good. singer ian lowery then had a long career as king blank and a solo artist , usually one of his albums in most bargain bins :-) p hmmm ... *very* interesting. i knew lowery from the folk devils but didn't realize he'd been in ski patrol. come to think of it, were all malicious damage bands (were there any others) required to sound like kj? was it kj's own label? expiring minds want to know ... dan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 15:54:59 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] RE: Dawn Of The Dead must say i *loved* this movie & will be going back to see it again before very long, something i very rarely do (only other instances i can think of involved a very mixed bag indeed -- basket case, dazed & confused, passion fish, sling blade, x-files: fight the future [more for social than aesthetic reasons, though i like the movie well enough] &, um, hedwig & the angry inch). i need to re-view 28 days later to see how i think the 2 compare, but at the moment i much prefer dawn. the first 15 or 20 minutes, through the opening credits & on to the car crash near the mall, are at *least* as intense as the opening scenes in saving pvt ryan -- high praise indeed. i haven't seen the original dawn since it came out some 25 years ago, alas, but did finally sit & watch day this a.m. really quite good. next up: messiah of the dead ... dan >> >>so what'd you think of the dawn remake, jason? > >The Dawn Of The Dead remake is nowhere as good as the original film, but >it's still pretty damn good, in my opinion. I'd give it a B+ on a grading >scale. > >This one lacks the satirical edge on American consumerism that Romero's >original movie had; instead, it focuses more on the actual survival aspects >of the story. This Dawn Of The Dead remake is more of an action film; >comparing it to the original is like comparing the more action-oriented >Aliens to the first horror-oriented Alien film. The remake is 100 minutes >long and, as such, is more of a efficient action film with a bit of horror >thrown in. > >The remake is not nearly as gory as the original film was. There are >some gory moments, but nothing that made my mouth fall open (like it did >when I first saw the exploding head during the scene of the S.W.A.T. team in >the building at the beginning of the original film). On a blood/gore >scale, this remake is roughly on par with most other horror films today. > >On the plus side, the first ten minutes of this Dawn Of The Dead remake are >spectacular...lots of aerial shots of explosions/chaos in the Wisconsin >suburbs. After the first ten minutes, we are treated to one of the best >uses of a song in a movie: the opening credits show news footage of zombies >attacking in major cities while the Johnny Cash song, "The Man Comes >Around", is playing. The opening credits conclude with Johnny Cash's >closing lyrics on quoting the pale rider bit, "his name was Death...and Hell >followed with him." Excellent. (My vote for Best Use Of A Song In A >Film still goes to The Doors - "The End" during the beginning of Apocalypse >Now, but the use of the Johnny Cash song in the Dawn Of The Dead opening >credits gets a big thumbs-up.) > >Also, on the music side, the mall scenes do make some fairly witty use of >Muzak selections during various scenes. > >If you go see the remake of Dawn Of The Dead in theaters, make sure that you >stay in your seat when the credits begin to roll at the end of the movie. >If you leave during the closing credits, you'll miss out on the real ending. > >All in all, I have to say that I really enjoyed the remake and liked it >better than I expected (this is the general opinion of most of the >professional reviewers...that this film doesn't hold a candle to the >original, but it's still very much worth seeing). It moves quickly, makes >room for some character development (Ving Rhames and company), and does have >some horrific scenes at various points in the film when things go wrong. > >Look for a cameo by special effects guru Tom Savini (who worked on the >original film). He plays a sheriff in a TV news clip. "Look, this one's >another twitcher". > > >>so did the trailer for 28 >>days later, which i thought was pretty decent but ultimately a letdown. > >I really enjoyed 28 Days Later. I liked the ending more than most people >seemed to, although the beginning of the film is much more fascinating. >It was one of my favorite films last year and I've watched the DVD several >times over. > > >>given the current renaisssance of zombie movies, i'm more mystified than >>ever by the fact (as i understand it) that george romero continues to be >>unable to get backing for his proposed sequel to night-dawn-day, dead >>reckoning ... > >I expect that Romero's Dead Reckoning will see the light of day soon if >Romero is still intent on it. I hope so. > >I love zombie movies and have never been able to understand why everyone >else doesn't love them as well. My favorite of the bunch is still the >original 1968 black-and-white version of Romero's Night Of The Living Dead, >but most of the zombie movies out there have some appeal. I'd like to see >the Lucio Fulci films at some point, as I still haven't gotten around to >renting them. > >The original Dawn Of The Dead was released on DVD last week, but this >release (the theatrical version) is just a teaser for a Special Edition >release of the same film later this year (with both director's cut and >theatrical included). I'm waiting for the big set. > > >Jason ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 17:17:48 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] speaking of kj ... In a message dated 24/03/2004 21:48:17 GMT Standard Time, dpbailey@worldnet.att.net writes: > i wonder if there's any chance anyone'll ever reissue red beat's stuff, > including peel session &live (the only way, i suspect, to round out an > anywhere-near-full disc)? i know they're pretty obscure, but more than one > review i've seen has identified them as the highlight of the recentish dub > meets punk rockers uptown comp, or whatever it's called. > > /////well i wouldn't say they were fabulous , but the singles are worth > owning. i recall one gig local to me , they were 3rd on the bill supporting big > country. i gave it a miss........ > > > > > hmmm ... *very* interesting. i knew lowery from the folk devils but didn't > realize he'd been in ski patrol. ////he was also singer on the first 2 singles by the wall (a curious band of several very different line ups) > > come to think of it, were all malicious damage bands (were there any others) > required to sound like kj? was it kj's own label? expiring minds want to > know ... > /////there were just the 2 plus KJ. i think KJ produced these acts so maybe they "moulded" them a little. p ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 19:57:30 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] speaking of kj ... > >>come to think of it, were all malicious damage bands (were there any > others)<< No, just Red Beat & Ski Patrol > >>required to sound like kj? was it kj's own label? expiring minds want to > know ...<< > > Yes, licenced through EG Records after the first two singles. The imprint > ended in 1982. I guess KJ liked KJ soundalikes in the same way that Joy > Division liked Joy Division soundalikes. Ian Lowery was in The Wall before Ski Patrol, BTW. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 00:09:59 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] go on...take a swing... my current obsession is finding the Rhino re-issues of all the YES albums especially: Relayer and Tales From Topographic Oceans for under $10.00 each RL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 09:04:55 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] go on...take a swing... is there a doctor in the house ; ) > my current obsession is finding the Rhino re-issues of all the YES albums > > especially: > > Relayer > > and > > Tales From Topographic Oceans > > for under $10.00 each > > RL ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V7 #94 ******************************