From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V7 #80 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Saturday, March 13 2004 Volume 07 : Number 080 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [idealcopy] Pere Ubu ? ["Clements, Bruno - BUP" ] [idealcopy] I Am the Adam Sky [Bunny Smedley ] [idealcopy] The ME Smith voice ["Clements, Bruno - BUP" ] Re: [idealcopy] Corner Hotel Melbourne - Part 2.7 [Ari Britt ] Re: [idealcopy] Corner Hotel Melbourne - Part 2.7 [Ari Britt ] [idealcopy] Elbow ["Tim ****" ] Re: [idealcopy] iPod + ER earbuds for portables. [fernando ] Re: [idealcopy] Corner Hotel Melbourne - Part 2.7 [RLynn9@aol.com] RE: [idealcopy] Corner Hotel Melbourne - 7 March, 2004 ["anastasia" ] Re: [idealcopy] Bowie Ebay Again.. [Tisbili@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Bowie Ebay Again.. [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy]OT: PIXIES advice....../ F. Ferdinand / J. Stone [Bart van] [idealcopy] RE: Ipod Vs Discman ["Jason Rogers" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Pere Ubu ? - ----I read the link - as far as I remember the main fault was that the second side of the original-issue vinyl Dub Housing seemed to be at slightly the wrong speed... Most of it was given over to David Thomas saying that, despite its faults, digital was better than vinyl. Certainly my Geffen CD versions of the early singles sounds better than my old Radar (UK) stuff... Bruno - -----Original Message----- From: RLynn9@aol.com [mailto:RLynn9@aol.com] Sent: 12 March 2004 16:55 To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: [idealcopy] Pere Ubu ? ....silly me...i have somehow lost the link to the article about which Pere Ubu cds are mastered at the wrong speed.... i'm interested in finding The Modern Dance and Dub Housing...which versionbs should i avoid again? thanks for putting up with me.. RL ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 10:13:57 -0000 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: [idealcopy] Pere Ubu retake... >>>I read the link - as far as I remember the main fault was that the second side of the original-issue vinyl Dub Housing seemed to be at slightly the wrong speed... >>>Most of it was given over to David Thomas saying that, despite its faults, digital was better than vinyl. Certainly my Geffen CD VERSION (ie Terminal Tower) of the early singles sounds better than my old Radar (UK) stuff... - ---Another disc that sounds fine is my early (1988) CD issue of the Modern Dance (tenth anniversary only 1,000 pressed so like a mug I bought it and sold my original vinyl version to pay for it... Now how daft is that?) - ---The box set would be, as everyone says, a great place to start. Sadly I don't have it :-( Bruno ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 10:40:26 -0000 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: [idealcopy] iPod Vs Discman Morning Bart (hope the sun's out on your side of Europe too) I think what we were getting at was that if you DO want a portable source of music a recordable mini-disc will do everything (and more) that an iPod will, and at a cheaper price. Thus buying an iPod is something that the more fashion-concious/well-off will tend to do (if I win the lottery tonight I'd be tempted, I must say). I can see why people will pay more for an Apple Mac computer, as it works in a more user-friendly way than a PC. An iPod (apart from being smaller) doesn't seem to offer us anything we haven't got already... apart from the image. As prices are bound to fall we ordinary mortals are best off holding back and making do with a cheapo CD portable (non-branded versions on sale here now for an incredible 15-25gbp) or mini-disc. Bruno ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 11:53:19 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Corner Hotel Melbourne - Part 2.7 > well Ari...maybe she: > > a) doesn't like boys > b) doesn't like boys in leather trousers and pink boas > c) doesn't like boys in anoraks > d) doesn't mischievious dutch boys > e) doesn't like silver tongued scccchhhhhhhnakes... > > RL c) Doesn't *what* mischievious dutch boys, Robert? Bart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 12:12:27 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Gang of Four...BACK!?!? > welcome to the list Matt,watch out for Bart,Keith, Robert and Alistair,nasty > people......Ari Watch it Ari, or I'll send Matt that pic of you and your 5 *big* twin sisters!!! I'll trade you the negatives for 5 ipods (so I'm carefree for 5 x 18 months!) Welcome Matt & Anastasia (& any more new ones?) (Dutch)Bart NP: Blonde Redhead - la Mia Vita Violenta ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 11:30:50 +0000 From: Bunny Smedley Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Get Ready for Movement (formerly top ten albums) > yes the live shows from around "movement" were great...I have that great > "toras shevchenko" live video...a really intense performance. > If the new album is like the more dance orientated "Here to stay" I'll be > happy...also on N.O/J.D. topics, according to the world in motion > website,,there are plans for the "Here are the young men" video to be > released on DVD..gret news..I'm almost afraid to play my old video copy > now, not sure it would survive another play........ If you don't already have it, the "Taras Shevchenko" DVD (it's an "extra" on one of the recent concert DVDs) is a must - much better quality than the VHS, obviously, and it really shows what a superb concert that must have been. Pumped Full of Drugs is also available on DVD, but only in Japan. Hopefully, Academy and NewOrderStory will follow close after HEATYM. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 11:33:46 +0000 From: Bunny Smedley Subject: Re: [idealcopy] iPod Vs Discman I held off on iPod for quite a while, but bought one as a Christmas present to myself .. the only regret is not getting it sooner. I could never really carry around enough CDs, or extract them from my randomly organised collection, to make the walkman thing work well. iPod is a fine alternative, and as already mentioned you can up the bit rate (and use Apple encoding rather than MP3) to get better sound quality. Distressingly, it sounds better than my 15-year-old CD player. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 11:38:34 +0000 From: Bunny Smedley Subject: [idealcopy] I Am the Adam Sky As discussed here a few weeks ago, Adam Sky (the artist formerly known as Adamski of Janet Street Porter Yoof TV fame, iirc) has done a cover of 3I Am The Fly2. It has a certain irritating charm ... and extensive samples from the original. The track is readily available on the predictable but rather fine 3Nag Nag Nag2 compilation album and CD. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 11:41:39 -0000 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: [idealcopy] The ME Smith voice Browsing at evilsponge.org, as you do, I chanced upon PJK's review of a Fall gig in Atlanta last year http://www.evilsponge.org/concert/Fall__12July03.htm Despite sympathising with Paul's obvious discomforts at the show I had to smile at the phrase: "Smith's voice, which is rather distinctive and uses an odd delivery style". MES has a distinctive voice to us ('soft' - that's meant to be irony...) UK Southerners, so what on earth he must sound like to the rest of the world I can't imagine! Bruno ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 13:49:56 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] iPod Vs Discman > Morning Bart (hope the sun's out on your side of Europe too) It's a bit grey here in Groningen now. > I think what we were getting at was that if you DO want a portable source of > music a recordable mini-disc will do everything (and more) that an iPod > will, and at a cheaper price. Thus buying an iPod is something that the more > fashion-concious/well-off will tend to do (if I win the lottery tonight I'd > be tempted, I must say). Although ipods have become fashionable they have an intelligent & minimalistic design. They don't seem to be designed as fahionable items sooner than they've just become so. Shame to hear about the battery problem though. > An iPod (apart from being smaller) doesn't seem to offer us anything we > haven't got already... apart from the image. As prices are bound to fall we > ordinary mortals are best off holding back and making do with a cheapo CD > portable (non-branded versions on sale here now for an incredible 15-25gbp) > or mini-disc. Mind you, I'm not dissing recordable mini-discs, to our great satisfaction we use it to record during band rehearsal ourselves. As I said, I don't own an ipod (yet), but Apple sells songs online - that makes a nice extra feature doesn't it? Also, itt combines very nicely with Itunes. Here's some info I found at: http://www.ipodlounge.com "HP has launched its own HP Music website to promote iTunes and the iTunes Music Store. "HP and Apple have partnered to bring the award-winning iTunes music jukebox software onto your PC and into your digital world," reads a section of the new site. "Now you can enjoy the revolutionary digital music experience that's changing the way the world listens, all in the comfort of a Windows-based environment." Clicking the "Download iTunes" link takes you to a new Apple.com web page to downoad iTunes for HP and Compaq customers. "Available for Windows XP, and Windows 2000, iTunes 4.2 allows you to sign in and buy music from the iTunes Music Store with your AOL or Apple Account." "Starbucks & HP to serve up music downloads. Here's a deal: Sip on a mocha latte while using headphones to listen to any of 250,000 songs you call up on a computer. Then order the ones you like -- burned on your own CD -- to go. Who's the dealer? Starbucks (SBUX ). BusinessWeek has learned that on Mar. 16, the Seattle coffee giant will unveil an in-store music service allowing customers to do just that, using Hewlett-Packard (HPQ ) tablet computers to make their choices. The first musical Starbucks opens in Santa Monica, Calif., and the service will expand into 2,500 stores over the next two years. "This is not a test," says Starbucks Chairman Howard Schultz. 'We're going for it.'" > I held off on iPod for quite a while, but bought one as a Christmas present > to myself .. the only regret is not getting it sooner. I could never really > carry around enough CDs, or extract them from my randomly organised > collection, to make the walkman thing work well. iPod is a fine alternative, > and as already mentioned you can up the bit rate (and use Apple encoding > rather than MP3) to get better sound quality. Distressingly, it sounds > better than my 15-year-old CD player. I think you just talked me into buying one Bunny! Bart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 05:19:46 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Corner Hotel Melbourne - Part 2.7 Bart van Damme wrote: > well Ari...maybe she: > > a) doesn't like boys > b) doesn't like boys in leather trousers and pink boas > c) doesn't like boys in anoraks > d) doesn't mischievious dutch boys > e) doesn't like silver tongued scccchhhhhhhnakes... > > RL c) Doesn't *what* mischievious dutch boys, Robert? Bart Now now boyz,calm down,just 'cause there's a lady on the list doesn't mean y'hafta go get all excited! and put that pink boa back in the cupboard Robert! Ari Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 14:21:23 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Ipod Used In Domestic Homicide > The potential appeal of the iPod to me is not that it's about listening > on the move so much as it allegedly revolutionises the way you can listen > to music through the search facilities. Yeah, this is what I meant to say - I only needed 500 extra words. Thanks Keith! (darn, sometimes i wish I could just use my first language here) > Listening to music in a car is something else again - I love that. Hear hear - literally! Bart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 14:41:44 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Corner Hotel Melbourne - Part 2.7 > ya hear that Ari and Bart ? time to clean your acts up and act like gentlemen > now...no more perverted guy stories ! What??? I haven't touched Photoshop again since I gave Ari his digital giant boobjob the other month!!! (email me offlist if you're interested) But ok, I promise not to make 'em that large again from now on... (though it DID succesfully arouse & confuse young Robert!) Bart NP: er... something by Wire! *phew* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 14:08:22 -0000 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: [idealcopy] iPod OK, so the new mini-iPod would be really great but I'm going to Glastonbury/Pixies/the Who instead... Spare Who tickets (Weds, March 24, London Forum) for anyone interested. Nobody's going to have any spare Kraftwerk tickets are they? No, stupid question. BTW these look is if they'd be great for portables... http://www.ditdo.com/HEADPHONES/ER6/er6.html Bruno ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 06:38:14 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Corner Hotel Melbourne - Part 2.7 Bart van Damme wrote: > ya hear that Ari and Bart ? time to clean your acts up and act like gentlemen > now...no more perverted guy stories ! What??? I haven't touched Photoshop again since I gave Ari his digital giant boobjob the other month!!! (email me offlist if you're interested) But ok, I promise not to make 'em that large again from now on... (though it DID succesfully arouse & confuse young Robert!) Bart NP: er... something by Wire! *phew* So and Slow it Grows perhaps? lol! Ari Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 06:42:33 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] Bruno wrote........ BTW these look is if they'd be great for portables... http://www.ditdo.com/HEADPHONES/ER6/er6.html Bruno They do indeed look like they might be worth investigating,anyone want to buy me some just for the hell of it? (don't all rush at once now) Ari Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 22:51:37 +0800 From: "Tim ****" Subject: [idealcopy] Elbow Just like to mention that the 'Acoustic' instore session (http://www.78records.com.au) with Elbow turned out to be excellent! Approx 150/200 people turned up. The guitarist has a humdinger of a hairdo, so that of course that makes all the difference ;) I (At this moment in time being a Elbow novice) prefer the acoustic versions to the Coldplayish sounding Cd. They even covered a Bruce Cockburn song! Just never imagined i'd ever be at a gig with one of his songs ringing in my ears..but there you go! Such as shame the Wire boys couldn't make it this far! If needed? - Pere Ubu Bug Report - http://www.projex.demon.co.uk/bugs.html Tim np Elbow - Cast Of Thousands _________________________________________________________________ We've 100s of NEW questions! Play Millionaire online to win $$$$. Click here http://sites.ninemsn.com.au/minisite/millionaire/default.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 07:15:19 -0800 (PST) From: fernando Subject: Re: [idealcopy] iPod + ER earbuds for portables. Funny, but i just got the ER6 in the mail yesterday. Yes, they are rather fantastic, having owned many earbud types (agregate cost more than the ER6). Of course, they are still meant to go into the ear as their ER4 siblings, but they are much more comfortable. They also come with a foam alternate to the plug, and those work rather well, and don't go into your ear per se. I have been using the ER4 in flights, and could not recommend them enough... but there is the thing about being plugged and how comfortable they can be for an individual, still, it is a good alternate to blasting your ear in a airplane with a higher volume. cheers! - -fernando - --- "Clements, Bruno - BUP" wrote: > OK, so the new mini-iPod would be really great but I'm going to > Glastonbury/Pixies/the Who instead... > > Spare Who tickets (Weds, March 24, London Forum) for anyone interested. > Nobody's going to have any spare Kraftwerk tickets are they? No, stupid > question. > > BTW these look is if they'd be great for portables... > > http://www.ditdo.com/HEADPHONES/ER6/er6.html > > Bruno > > > ********************************************************************** > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they > are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify > the system manager. > > This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by > MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. > > www.mimesweeper.com > ********************************************************************** __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 07:23:36 -0800 (PST) From: Derek White Subject: RE: [idealcopy] A few letters in one... Keith Knight wrote: I really don't like walking around without being able to hear everything around me for some reason. I think it's partly a safety paranoia thing (although not from any bad experience, fortunately, although perhaps that's due to my being aware of my surroundings!) Keith, I am totally surprised to hear that you don't possess a walkman or anything... I can understand you wanting to hear your surrounding but you are a guy... I walk in the streets with a walkman and yes it can be dangerous for a woman but you don't have it too loud. ///// Just to add my two penn'orth here, I can speak with a *bit* of bitter experience here about 'not being in touch with your surroundings...... About two years ago, I was walking the three miles or so from town centre to home, up a long grass verge at the side of the arterial route out of town, wearing my discman and earphones, and generally minding my own business, when a real hefty weight barrelled into me at about thigh height, and sent me sprawling face first into the deck. Momentarily I thought I'd maybe been hit by a vehicle mounting the verge or something, but when I looked round, trying to staunch my copiously bleeding nose, I saw a bull-necked skinhead in a rugby shirt and a crimson complexion roaring his satisfaction at 'bringing me down'. He'd obviously spotted an oblivious 'target of opportunity', and decided it'd be damn funny to go and attack someone unaware that he existed. As his equally neanderthal mates looked on from their car, parked up at the side of the road, they yelled stuff like "Wot a f***ing rugby tackle *that* was", as their comrade proceeded to put the boot into my still stunned and prostrate form. Then he ran back to the car (and presumably carried on munching away at his steroid sandwiches) and left. Now, even though I'm 6' 4" and not a stranger to having to look after myself, I'm not saying there was a fat lot I could have done about FOUR psychopaths, even with advance warning , but there's no doubt that I'd have at least heard the bloody ox coming. It hasn't, of course, put me off listening to stuff on the move, but I now take a tad more notice of what's happening at the periphery of my vision, and don't tend to whack the volume up as much.......:-( Regard this as a cautionary tale.......... Later, DW Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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In a message dated 3/12/04 8:26:38 PM Central Standard Time, comsat@tig.com.au writes: > >but one record that always comes to mind is the ORIGINAL un-remixed > version > of "The Affectionate Punch" by The Associates... > > So the one at > http://db3.gemm.com/ddc/search.pl?sid=363862826&key=35303&disp_ad_format > _mode=0&artist=ASSOCIATES&SSOCIATES&&title=AFFECTIONATE+PUNCH&SSOCIATES& > > > has been remixed? > > yes....the original Affectionate Punch LP came out around 1980 and was a lot more raw than the 1982 remixed version ...the remixed version is ok but is very synth laden and kills some of the manic tension of the original version....Billy MacKenzie stated that he hated remixing that album...he felt like a sellout trying to update the sound to fit in with current trends.... the original lp has a black and white photo of MacKenzie and Rankine as track runners...whereas the remixed lp/cd has a hazy reddish glow around Rankine (front cover) and MacKenzie (back cover) ..... RL np - Adult. "Always Anxiety" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 16:29:13 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Corner Hotel Melbourne - 7 March, 2004 >>> We all belong to the Comsat Angels 'Sleep No More' mail-list that I >>> moderate and own. >> Shit. I can't slag the Comsats off anymore!! > sure you can! whattsamatta with you Keith? goin' soft? Seen the Angels once here in Groningen and wasn't that impressed. They played like a light version of the Bunnymen. > Coil rule Only if you're into pink boas, celebrating male sexuality, scatology and all that shi... er, stuff like that! ;-) Bart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 07:34:02 -0800 (PST) From: fernando Subject: Re: [idealcopy] iPod Vs Discman - --- "Clements, Bruno - BUP" wrote: > Morning Bart (hope the sun's out on your side of Europe too) > > I think what we were getting at was that if you DO want a portable source of > music a recordable mini-disc will do everything (and more) that an iPod > will, and at a cheaper price. Thus buying an iPod is something that the more > fashion-concious/well-off will tend to do (if I win the lottery tonight I'd > be tempted, I must say). Portable source of music, yeah, the MD is the most practical solution. Cost is down, and you can re-use the discs... and then, if you spend a bit more on a good model, you can do live recordings. However, to compare to the iPod in such a restrictive use, is silly. Granted, some people, that is all that they do... and perhaps they fall under your fashion conscious umbrella. Yes, the price is ridiculous, and hopefully, it will change in the future (perhaps, when competition will come from non-PC companies that get a good design done). It is not a matter of size, it is how you use it ;) Aside from having a different way to going about your listening habits (and I have 4 MD players), there are other benefits that the MD cannot do, as it relates to portable computing, digital pictures and other things. So, beyond the limited application you mention that MD is good for, it is difficult to compare the two mediums as they do not overlap in functionality. > > I can see why people will pay more for an Apple Mac computer, as it works in > a more user-friendly way than a PC. yeah, this was true for many years... but it seems to be less of gap these days, if one compares equal performance and reliability. > An iPod (apart from being smaller) doesn't seem to offer us anything we > haven't got already... apart from the image. again... too simplistic of a view point to think it is an image thing, though I am sure that there is plenty of image-concious people buying iPods. cheers! - -fernando __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 10:45:05 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Corner Hotel Melbourne - Part 2.7 In a message dated 3/13/04 7:51:43 AM Central Standard Time, bartvandamme@home.nl writes: > But ok, I promise not to make 'em that large again from now on... > (though it DID succesfully arouse &confuse young Robert!) > > Bart > > no no no...for full arousal i would need the perfect woman...a woman with Ari's inflated breasts..Keith's fashion sense...and Bart's bedside manner... RL ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 02:46:43 +1100 From: "anastasia" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Corner Hotel Melbourne - 7 March, 2004 - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Bart van Damme >>> We all belong to the Comsat Angels 'Sleep No More' mail-list that I >>> moderate and own. Seen the Angels once here in Groningen and wasn't that impressed. They played like a light version of the Bunnymen. Ah there is Bart, Bruno's must be happy. :-) Ok Bart I have to agree with you here. I have seen live tapes of their shows and yes they do not do the music justice, although the sound is ok, I prefer not to look at them singing. Mr Fellows makes these strange facial expressions. I suggest you get Sleep No More and forget that gig you saw. You are missing out on something really special, you all are really. If you like Joy Division then you should like the Comsats I say. anastasia ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 10:47:17 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Corner Hotel Melbourne - 7 March, 2004 In a message dated 3/13/04 9:29:36 AM Central Standard Time, bartvandamme@home.nl writes: > Only if you're into pink boas, celebrating male sexuality, scatology and > all > that shi... er, stuff like that! ;-) > > Bart > no Bart...it's moon music....moon music.... RL ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 07:47:26 -0800 (PST) From: Derek White Subject: Re: [idealcopy] iPod Vs Discman Bart van Damme wrote: Although ipods have become fashionable they have an intelligent & minimalistic design. They don't seem to be designed as fahionable items sooner than they've just become so. Shame to hear about the battery problem though. /// I don't *THINK* thats a problem that affects just the iPod's batteries, rather a problem with *all* re-chargeable cells, be they Ni-Cad, NiMh, or whatever, ie that over time and several hundred recharge/discharge cycles, they just won't take as much charge as they once did. Certainly, all my (nominally) 1.5volt NiCads and metal halides, that when new had o/c terminal voltages of just over 1.25 volts IIRC, are now only 1.1 volts and falling. If I recall an article I saw on care of such cells, the problem is the drying out of the paste, inside the cell, in structures called dendrites, that are dry areas that spread through the electrolyte like tree-roots, as the name suggests, thereby reducing the amount of the 'goo' inside the cell that is active. By the time they don't show more than 1.05 volts fully charged, with no load connected, they're probably ready for the 'bin, as you probably won't get more than an hour of use out of a full charge (if you're lucky) DW Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 10:56:24 -0500 From: Tisbili@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Bowie Ebay Again.. > 10 bids! > > It's at #4.05! > > The guy's a genius. No claim to genius here, but in a related note, I've got bidders on "s club 7" and atb CDs but not on pan american ??? And Coil's "Love's Secret Domain" has been bid up over $5, even without any blood, jizz, poo or other incitements to collector hysteria. getcher bid in Robert...only a few days left. ;-) billy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 11:06:51 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Bowie Ebay Again.. In a message dated 3/13/04 10:00:28 AM Central Standard Time, Tisbili@aol.com writes: > And Coil's "Love's Secret Domain" has been bid up over $5, even without any > blood, jizz, poo or other incitements to collector hysteria. > > getcher bid in Robert...only a few days left. ;-) > > billy > um...why would i want it then? seriously though, i already have all the Coil albums...but thanks for the heads up anyway RL ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 17:22:14 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy]OT: PIXIES advice....../ F. Ferdinand / J. Stone >> And last week I had Teenager of the Year on in the car every day - surely >> Frank's best by far! > they showed the "hang on to your ego" video on mtv 120 minutes last > saturday , i think that's repeated tonight (or maybe tomorrow). not a very > good single or a good video to be honest. p Agreed... but then again this wasn't one of Frank's, but by some minor talent like Brian Wilson (not too keen on his version either). Bart (bit late) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 16:43:16 +0000 From: "Jason Rogers" Subject: [idealcopy] RE: Ipod Vs Discman I would get iPod if: 1.) I can find one that will fit the songs from all 850+ CD's in my collection, and... 2.) If I don't have to pay an outrageous amount of money for in iPod with that capacity. The good thing about it is that iPods are getting cheaper as I write this very email. I probably shouldn't be worried about it, as I live in north Atlanta where the cool thing for people to do is go thousands of dollars into debt just so they can be like their neighbors. Spending a lot of cash for an iPod doesn't strike me as a very good idea just yet, though. I also don't like how people are in their own little worlds with mobiles and iPods. I bought a mobile phone back in November, but I mainly bought it so that I could call people instead of people calling me. I am getting more calls now that people have actually figured out that I have a cell phone, but I have my phone set on one single beep and then vibrate, so that it doesn't play one of those horribly annoying musical tunes when someone calls. I also have it turned off quite frequently. Still a good thing, though...I'm moving to a new place and I'm not even going to pay for a regular phone line; I'm just going to use the mobile. Jason Now Playing: Stereolab - "Margerine Eclipse" (I'm going to see Stereolab at Variety Playhouse in April; if anyone else is going to that show, let me know.) >Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 10:05:36 +0100 >From: Bart van Damme >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Ipod Vs Discman > > > I can't see why people would pay so much more for an iPod myself apart >from > > it being a fashion thing. > > >Perhaps because it's a Apple Mac product? I've payed more for the Apple >computers I've had over the last 15 years. > >Haven't got an Ipod myself because I, like AT Keith, am not too keen on >wearing a headphone in public/traffic and I don't much like the fact people >all seem wrapped up in their own little worlds using walkmans or mobiles. _________________________________________________________________ Get business advice and resources to improve your work life, from bCentral. http://special.msn.com/bcentral/loudclear.armx ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 17:43:23 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Corner Hotel Melbourne - 7 March, 2004 >> Only if you're into pink boas, celebrating male sexuality, scatology and >> all that shi... er, stuff like that! ;-) > no Bart...it's moon music....moon music.... Imagine making music for activities like that! ;-) I haven't heard anything by them since the mid 80's to be honest. What would be an essential album then Robert? Bart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 16:46:22 -0000 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: [idealcopy] iPod + ER earbuds for portables. Cool, Fernando! Just pop them in the post to me and I'll let you know what I think of them ;-) I use some cheap Aiwas with cushioning around the earpiece. It blocks out quite a bit of sound but won't be as good as the ERs. Bruno fernando [mailto:gromitklein@yahoo.com] Sent: 13 March 2004 15:15 To: Clements, Bruno - BUP; idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] iPod + ER earbuds for portables. Funny, but i just got the ER6 in the mail yesterday. Yes, they are rather fantastic, having owned many earbud types (agregate cost more than the ER6). Of course, they are still meant to go into the ear as their ER4 siblings, but they are much more comfortable. They also come with a foam alternate to the plug, and those work rather well, and don't go into your ear per se. I have been using the ER4 in flights, and could not recommend them enough... but there is the thing about being plugged and how comfortable they can be for an individual, still, it is a good alternate to blasting your ear in a airplane with a higher volume. cheers! - -fernando ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 17:10:49 -0000 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: [idealcopy] New discs today Captain Beefheart - Spotlight Kid/Clear Spot (1.99gbp); Flaming Lips - The day they shot a hole (5.99gbp). Sale on at Virgin UK. Now that's what I call realistic prices for back catalogue music - 3 CDs for less than 8gbp. If they priced music like that every day I'd be buying every day... Bruno ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 13:28:34 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Corner Hotel Melbourne - 7 March, 2004 In a message dated 3/13/04 10:52:35 AM Central Standard Time, bartvandamme@home.nl writes: > > no Bart...it's moon music....moon music.... > > > Imagine making music for activities like that! ;-) > > I haven't heard anything by them since the mid 80's to > be honest. What would be an essential album then Robert? > > Bart my favorite Coil albums are: Astral Disaster Musick to Play in the Dark vol 1 & 2 Black Light District - A Thousand Lights in a Darkend Room Worship the Glitch Time Machines and when i am in a more experimental/noisy mood: Queens of the Circulating Library Constant Shallowness Leads to Evil i like their first three or four albums well enough but no where near as much as these...their old stuff had a hokey industrial feel to it... RL ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 14:28:07 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] A.T.K wrote........... In a message dated 3/12/04 8:55:21 PM, threeduggaduggas@yahoo.com writes: > >I use both the discman and the lil' arm radio I have for work-time only. i tried doing that, but my students complained. being a teacher sure has a few drawbacks :o) but with regards to all the ipod posts, it's very appealing to me. even at it's current price, i think it's great. i can't afford it, but i think it's great. i paid over $100 for my first walkman, $135 i think. i haven't heard any recordings made with an ipod, but i can't imagine it sounding any worse than my old walkman recordings did. seems that the extended warranty on the ipod may be a wise investment too, so that does put it over $300...hmm. well, knowing apple, they'll likely have models out pretty soon at the same price level, but with double the storage capacity or something like that. they'll close out on the current low-end model at a nice price, but i'm hopin i'll still be happy to have one of these current ones much further down the road when they're about half the price. also, even thought the comment about the distinctive white earbuds sending out a message to would-be thugs that you're wearing an expensive untraceable piece of electronic equipment was very funny, but apple does offer free engraving with an ipod purchase :o) not that that'll stop a thief or anything, but it is cool that they'll personalize one for ya :o) - -another the paul ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V7 #80 ******************************