From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V7 #73 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Thursday, March 11 2004 Volume 07 : Number 073 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Re: idealcopy-digest V7 #72 ["Mileta Okiljevic" ] RE: [idealcopy] Punk guitar hero dies in sleep - NME.COM ["kenny sanderso] RE: [idealcopy] Heavy Rotation ["kenny sanderson" ] Re: [idealcopy] OT - John McGeogh R.I.P.... ["Stephen Graziano" ] Re: [idealcopy] OT - John McGeogh R.I.P.... ["Keith Astbury" ] Re: [idealcopy] OT - John McGeogh R.I.P.... [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Derek Wrote.......... [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Derek Wrote.......... [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Derek Wrote.......... ["dan bailey" ] Re: [idealcopy] acr ["Tim" ] Re: [idealcopy] Derek Wrote.......... [Tisbili@aol.com] [idealcopy] speaing obliquely of john mcgeogh ... ["dan bailey" Subject: [idealcopy] Re: idealcopy-digest V7 #72 > Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 18:11:40 EST > From: MarkBursa@aol.com > Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - John McGeogh R.I.P.... > > That's put a real downer on what had been a very enjoyable evening. Some of > you will know what I mean... > > Mark > Yes, Mark... it was let down after watching "show" last nite.. and today is my brother birthday, we all feel sad after all... the light pours out of him... and i saw guys you mentioned last year on Partizan stadium, best team i saw in years, much better than Real (also saw him in this round of CL). haven't seen team who is solid as rock.. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 11:10:23 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] Heavy Rotation Here's the Wire related albums that have been on heavy rotation at Keith Towers... Colin Newman - Bastard OK, I could probably do without some of the more d&b moments, but I like this LP a lot. There's some great instrumentals here. I'm particularly keen on Spaced In at the moment, with it's lovely chiming guitars, and the closing track Turn just seems to get better with age. Hox - It-ness I think this may well be my fave Graham LP now. It's a bit of an unsung (away from these quarters at least) classic imo. I love the shole album, but my fave tracks at the mo are probably the rhythmically wobbly Extra Zero and How High Is Is - a great track in the Pump tradition (well I think so!) that I've played loads in recent months. Wire - Ideal Copy As much as I love this album it's the Snakedrill bonus track A Serious of Snakes with it's poptastic "you pea-brained earwig" chorus that I'm particulalrly loving at the moment. I especially love the bit at when 2 min 04 secs when the high synth in comes in, and completely alters the mood of the song. Magic. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 14:01:37 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: idealcopy-digest V7 #72 / MUFC / SMITHS 'HEAVEN KNOWS I'M MISERABLE NOW' > and i saw guys you mentioned last year on Partizan stadium, > best team i saw in years, much better than Real (also saw him > in this round of CL). haven't seen team who is solid as rock.. Apologies to non-footie fans... In the light of last nights events - and as Moz once recorded a track called Roy's Keane - I thought it appropriate to compile a.... MUFC / SMITHS 'HEAVEN KNOWS I'M MISERABLE NOW' TOP 12... Panic - Wes Brown These Things Take Time - Diego Forlan Handsome Devil - Phil Neville Asleep - John O'Shea Girl Afraid - Ronaldo Nowhere Fast - Darren Fletcher Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others - Gary Neville Unloveable - RV Nistelroy This Night Has Opened My Eyes - Tim Howard You Just Haven't Earned It Yet Baby - L Saha Big Mouth Strikes Again - Sir Alex Miserable Lie - Rio Ferdinand ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 09:07:01 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: idealcopy-digest V7 #72 / MUFC / SMITHS 'HEAVEN KNOWS I'M... > Panic - Wes Brown > These Things Take Time - Diego Forlan > Handsome Devil - Phil Neville > Asleep - John O'Shea > Girl Afraid - Ronaldo > Nowhere Fast - Darren Fletcher > Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others - Gary Neville > Unloveable - RV Nistelroy > This Night Has Opened My Eyes - Tim Howard > You Just Haven't Earned It Yet Baby - L Saha > Big Mouth Strikes Again - Sir Alex > Miserable Lie - Rio Ferdinand This Charming man - Roy Keane Mark ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 14:10:51 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] Punk guitar hero dies in sleep - NME.COM It doesn't tell us much more, though I didn't know he'd trained to be a = nurse. http://www.nme.com/news/107790.htm [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of Punk guitar hero dies in sleep - NME.COM.url] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 09:16:24 -0500 From: "Eric Klaver" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Heavy Rotation Keith: Colin Newman - Bastard /////////////////////////////////// Gotta dig it out again... Wire - Ideal Copy A Serious of Snakes... I especially love the bit at when 2 min 04 secs when the high synth in comes in, and completely alters the mood of the song. Magic. /////////////////////// It's such a Glass style chord riff. I have no doubt that whoever was responsible for that track was thinking of Koyannisqatsi when he wrote it. It is a very satisfying and possibly transcendent moment. That with the Ahead remix makes having that disc so worthwhile having. Eric in Toronto ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 14:24:57 +0000 From: "kenny sanderson" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Punk guitar hero dies in sleep - NME.COM It doesn't tell us much more, though I didn't know he'd trained to be a = nurse. http://www.nme.com/news/107790.htm [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of Punk guitar hero dies in sleep - NME.COM.url] such a shame.....I've had "Real Life" and "Secondhand Daylight" on heavy rotation at work today... I never realised he was born in Greenock..I used to live there as a small boy n.p. Colin Newman "Commercial Suicide" - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help STOP spam with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 14:33:52 +0000 From: "kenny sanderson" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Heavy Rotation Wire - Ideal Copy this and "read and burn 2" are probably my most played Wire disks...always loved the cover too... as far as sollo works "Commercial Suicide" is the one that gets played the most here the last 3 tracks are beautiful...especially "Can I explain...." some of my favourite Colin moments (including Wire recordings) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help STOP spam with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 17:21:29 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Monochromatic=20Man?= Subject: [idealcopy] OT - Celebrity Item http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3391993753&category=20049 Perhaps some enterprising UK ICer could convert this to dvd-r? ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 12:25:51 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - Celebrity Item > Perhaps some enterprising UK ICer could convert this > to dvd-r? You buy it, I'll convert it ;-) Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 17:10:17 -0000 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: [idealcopy] Used not abused Does Dan's buying second-hand theory stack up? Surely it's just the case that the money has ALREADY gone to the artist/record label? It's a minor detail as to who provided it in the first place, I feel. Since the list price for CDs in the UK is about 14-17GBP, which I would very rarely pay, most of my discs are either used are were bought in sales... Bruno - ---i *will* buy stuff by people whose views on various subjects i find offensive, but i won't buy them new, hence depriving them & their record companies of my money (prominent case in point: all skrewed up, which about a decade ago i found for $3 or so, still shrinkwrapped, at the used store near my house back in arkansas). dan ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. 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RL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 09:53:51 -0800 (PST) From: Fergus Kelly Subject: [idealcopy] John McGeogh R.I.P Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 21:50:50 +0000 From: "ian s jackson" Subject: [idealcopy] OT - John McGeogh R.I.P.... what the fuck...??? i was only glancing at my Secondhand Daylight flyer the other day and thinking...'well, at least all these guys are still around'....shit, this is very sad news... http://www.stevenseverin.com/johnmcgeoch.htm ian.s.j. ))) Jesus, I can't believe it. That's desperate. Fergus __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 12:49:49 -0600 From: "Stephen Graziano" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - John McGeogh R.I.P.... He always struck me as being of fragile health. Didn't he have to leave S& the Banshees around Kalideoscope/JuJu due to poor health? http://www.sourmashusa.com - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Astbury" To: "ian s jackson" ; Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - John McGeogh R.I.P.... > Shit. He deserves his place in history just for his contribution to > Permafrost, let alone anything else. > > > what the fuck...??? i was only glancing at my Secondhand Daylight flyer > the > > other day and thinking...'well, at least all these guys are still > > around'....shit, this is very sad news... > > > > http://www.stevenseverin.com/johnmcgeoch.htm > > > > ian.s.j. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger > > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 18:02:06 +0000 From: "Derek White" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Ot: Come On, Pilgrim, about this holy bible > > Really? Something as trivial as a *mildly unsavoury* view (and Polly is >a country gal after all) and you boycott an artist? > >Yep! Though I wouldn't call fox-hunting mildly unsavoury. //// Nor would I: the continuation of this ritualised bloodlust disguised as pest control by the tweedy barbour jacket set and their forelock-tugging inbred footsoldiers is, IMHO, an affront to this country's democracy:- at the last count, some 80-odd % of people in Britain wanted it confined to the past with bear-baiting, witch-burning and stuffing kids up chimneys, where it clearly belongs, and yet it persists in the face of the expressed will. Go figure...... :-( ( I'm not a veggie, and nor do I kid myself that the leather comprising my boots is from a cow that died of natural causes:- arguments of necessity as distinct from my own lameness we can have later, but there's no excuse for killing stuff for fun, to my mind.) > >Just curious... I an't imagine political correctness getting in the way >to that extent... >Really? Would you buy a Skrewdriver single, even if it was brilliant??? I wouldn't give *that* bunch of Nazi tosspots anything, but the steam from my shit. Preferably accompanied by it's parent turd. ;-) Guess we all draw the line somewhere, and maybe I'll look at PJH with fresh eyes now. I certainly feel less guilty about my cloned copy of "Songs from the sea..." or whatever it's called. ;-) _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:01:21 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Used not abused > >>Surely it's just the case that the money has ALREADY gone to the > artist/record label? It's a minor detail as to who provided it in the first > place, I feel. << Butr the fact remains that it's gone, and buying it secondhand doesn't add to that. It benefits the secondhand record store, who needs your help. > >>Since the list price for CDs in the UK is about 14-17GBP, which I would > very > rarely pay, most of my discs are either used are were bought in sales... << Same here. And again, no qualms really. I buy a lot of discarded promos from Music & Video exchange in Notting Hill, or my nearest indie dealer (Collectors Records in Guildford). They're all in the record company's budget, and the artists' advance is usually recouped through touring not sales. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 18:15:58 +0000 From: "Derek White" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - John McGeogh R.I.P.... >Shit. He deserves his place in history just for his contribution to >Permafrost, let alone anything else. > > > what the fuck...??? i was only glancing at my Secondhand Daylight flyer >the > > other day and thinking...'well, at least all these guys are still > > around'....shit, this is very sad news... > > > > http://www.stevenseverin.com/johnmcgeoch.htm //// Oh crap..... I'm gutted by this news. Very, very sad indeed. I agree his 'solo' contribution to 'Permafrost' was a magic moment, among many from his contributions to Magazine (one of my *very* fave bands...) Persistently inventive and surprising, it's a sad loss indeed...... R.I.P. _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:23:20 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - John McGeogh R.I.P.... > He always struck me as being of fragile health. Didn't he have to leave S& > the Banshees around Kalideoscope/JuJu due to poor health? Recently read the Banshees' biog that came out last year. Booze-related excesses of touring (and the Banshees were a very excessive band at that time) resulted in McGeogh having a complete breakdown after the Kiss in the Dreamhouse tour (1982). He ended up in a mental hospital and the band sacked him. It's a decision that seems to be regretted all round - neither career really recovered thereafter. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 18:28:12 GMT From: P J Kane Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - John McGeogh R.I.P.... << Oh crap..... I'm gutted by this news. Very, very sad indeed. >> and no has yet to determine an actual "cause of death" yet, have they? << I agree his 'solo' contribution to 'Permafrost' was a magic moment, among many from his contributions to Magazine (one of my *very* fave bands...) >> AHHH! i had no idea they were one and the same. hadn't really thought about it, i guess.... i was listenting to _The Correct Use of Soap_ just last night in fact. wierd coincidence.... checking out John McGeogh on allmusic i learned: 1. they spell is "McGeoch" 2. he was the touring guitarist on the last PIL tour, which i saw. i thougth he was pretty good, even thought he bulk of the new PIL material was utter crap.... 3. apparently he was also in Visage, who i remember vaguely from my mis-spent youth.... sadly, he shall be missed. PJK off to fidn my copy of Magazine's _Secondhand Daylight_, which is around here somewhere..... please don't hate me because i can't type..... - --- All the cool kids are doing it: HTTP://www.EvilSponge.org ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 14:21:24 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - John McGeogh R.I.P.... In a message dated 10/03/2004 18:31:07 GMT Standard Time, postlibyan@netzero.com writes: > 2. he was the touring guitarist on the last PIL tour, which i saw. i > thougth he was pretty good, even thought he bulk of the new PIL material was > utter crap.... //// i think he played on the last 3 albums , but you'd never guess. hardly his finest hour...... > > 3. apparently he was also in Visage, who i remember vaguely from my > mis-spent youth.... ///////as was dave formula. i think it pained howie greatly that they got rich and had hits whereas magazine.......didn't. sadly the only time i saw JMcG live was in the armoury show. not exactly a killer gig to remember him by. p ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 20:46:33 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - Celebrity Item UK-ers may want to know Lydon is on this weeks Jonathan Ross show. > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3391993753&category=20049 > > Perhaps some enterprising UK ICer could convert this > to dvd-r? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 14:46:02 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Used not abused that's just the point -- the money has *already* gone to the artist/record label. i'm not contributing to that, any more than i would be by leaving the used item sitting on the shelves, or shoplifting it, or never entering the shop's door, etc. the only way i could intrude into the cycle would be by, i suppose, somehow tracking down the original source of the used item (god only *knows* how a shrinkwrapped copy of all skrewed up wound up in north little rock, arkansas, some 20 years after its release) & attempting to educate him (&/or the shop that sold it new) about the error of his ways in hopes that he would never make such a purchase again. dan >Does Dan's buying second-hand theory stack up? > >Surely it's just the case that the money has ALREADY gone to the >artist/record label? It's a minor detail as to who provided it in the first >place, I feel. > >Since the list price for CDs in the UK is about 14-17GBP, which I would very >rarely pay, most of my discs are either used are were bought in sales... > >Bruno > >---i *will* buy stuff by people whose views on various subjects i find >offensive, but i won't buy them new, hence depriving them & their record >companies of my money (prominent case in point: all skrewed up, which about >a decade ago i found for $3 or so, still shrinkwrapped, at the used store >near my house back in arkansas). > >dan > > >********************************************************************** >This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and >intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they >are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify >the system manager. > >This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by >MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. > >www.mimesweeper.com >********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 20:59:03 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - John McGeogh R.I.P.... > //// Oh crap..... I'm gutted by this news. Very, very sad indeed. I > agree his 'solo' contribution to 'Permafrost' was a magic moment, among > many from his contributions to Magazine (one of my *very* fave bands...) > Persistently inventive and surprising, it's a sad loss > indeed...... R.I.P. I played Real Life last night. The guitar playing on Burst really impressed me. Even though it's almost like some bastardised blues playing as the track goes on, there's something delightfully off-kilter about it. Never saw Magazine - alas! - but did see McGeoch with both the Banhees and PIL. Incidentally, according to a PIL website, he was - other than Lydon obviously - the longest serving member of PIL (1986-92). Keith ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:09:40 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] Derek Wrote.......... I wouldn't give *that* bunch of Nazi tosspots anything, but the steam from my shit. Preferably accompanied by it's parent turd. ;-) Which is why I got rid of my cat stevens stuff,after he announced that Salmon Rushdie 'deserved' to die for writing a book for fuck's sake.Ari Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 16:14:41 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - John McGeogh R.I.P.... i only ever saw him with pil. never saw magazine, and unfortunately, the only time i saw siouxsee was when john carruthers had just joined and seemed to still be learning some of the songs as they were playing them. - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 16:30:09 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Derek Wrote.......... In a message dated 3/10/04 4:14:27 PM, threeduggaduggas@yahoo.com writes: >I wouldn't give *that* bunch of Nazi tosspots anything, but the steam >from >my shit. Preferably accompanied by it's parent turd. ;-) >Which is why I got rid of my cat stevens stuff,after he announced that > Salmon Rushdie 'deserved' to die for writing a book for fuck's sake.Ari and i'm putting my one and only muslimgauze cd (actually a 3cd, bought used) up on ebay. not making it a charity auction for the jnf, but i just don't want it in my house anymore. - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 16:40:11 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Derek Wrote.......... In a message dated 3/10/04 3:32:21 PM Central Standard Time, Eardrumbuz@aol.com writes: > and i'm putting my one and only muslimgauze cd (actually a 3cd, bought used) > up on ebay. not making it a charity auction for the jnf, but i just don't > want > it in my house anymore. > > -paul c.d. which one is it? RL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 16:02:59 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Derek Wrote.......... & i'm gonna get rid of all my ramones stuff because johnny is a right-wing creep. there's some evidence ian young was, too, so the jd releases are hanging in the balance. not sure about morrissey, but still ... might as well purge his releases & the smiths' as well. neil young keeps vacillating -- probably i'll wear out my tires dragging his albums to the used place, then returning to buy them back when he changes his position on various american presidents, but what the hell. no more banshees, either -- "too many jews for my liking," indeed. now i'm wondering if i can get a fair price for that damned racist hp lovecraft's books ... dan >In a message dated 3/10/04 3:32:21 PM Central Standard Time, >Eardrumbuz@aol.com writes: > >> and i'm putting my one and only muslimgauze cd (actually a 3cd, bought >used) >> up on ebay. not making it a charity auction for the jnf, but i just don't >> want >> it in my house anymore. >> >> -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 16:15:31 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Derek Wrote.......... >& i'm gonna get rid of all my ramones stuff because johnny is a right-wing >creep. there's some evidence ian young ian *curtis*, that is ... dan was, too, so the jd releases are >hanging in the balance. not sure about morrissey, but still ... might as >well purge his releases & the smiths' as well. neil young keeps >vacillating -- probably i'll wear out my tires dragging his albums to the >used place, then returning to buy them back when he changes his position on >various american presidents, but what the hell. > >no more banshees, either -- "too many jews for my liking," indeed. > >now i'm wondering if i can get a fair price for that damned racist hp >lovecraft's books ... > >dan > >>In a message dated 3/10/04 3:32:21 PM Central Standard Time, >>Eardrumbuz@aol.com writes: >> >>> and i'm putting my one and only muslimgauze cd (actually a 3cd, bought >>used) >>> up on ebay. not making it a charity auction for the jnf, but i just >don't >>> want >>> it in my house anymore. >>> >>> -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 22:59:16 -0000 From: "Ian B" Subject: Re: [idealcopy]OT: PIXIES advice....../ F. Ferdinand / J. Stone - ----- Original Message ----- From: > ////they showed the "hang on to your ego" video on mtv 120 minutes last > saturday , i think that's repeated tonight (or maybe tomorrow). Is this on MTV (which I have) or MTV2 (which I don't)? Just before Christmas it was on the former and I was a happy man. Since Christmas it appears to have disappeared from the schedules (at least it has from MTV's own teletext listings) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 23:01:55 -0000 From: "Ian B" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - Mark's enchanted evening - ----- Original Message ----- From: what had been a very enjoyable evening. Some of > you will know what I mean... > > Mark Bloody girlfriend phoned up with 82 minutes on the clock so couldn't fully savour the moment ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 23:26:38 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] Ipod Used In Domestic Homicide As we say over here - only in America! MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE (HLN) - A Memphis woman was arrested and charged with = first-degree murder after she bludgeoned her boyfriend to death with an = iPod.=20 Arleen Mathers, 23, was arrested Thursday morning after she called = Memphis Police and said she had killed her boyfriend, according to a = Sheriff's Department report.=20 When deputies arrived at Mathers' apartment at 528 Poplar Avenue, = Mathers led them to the body of her boyfriend, Brad Pulaski, 27. Brad Pulaski had died of blunt trauma to the head after being repeatedly = bludgeoned with an iPod, a popular MP3 player produced by Apple. Police said no motive has been confirmed, although evidence suggested = the murder was the result of a domestic dispute after Pulaski erased the = contents of Mathers' iPod. According to law officers, Mathers was hysterical when police arrived = and told them that she killed her boyfriend only after he accused her of = illegally downloading music and erased about 2,000 of her MP3s. Mathers = complained that it took 3 months to build her music collection. An autopsy performed Friday afternoon at Methodist Hospital showed that = Brad Pulaski had been beat multiple times in the face and chest by a = blunt metal object, and died of internal bleeding, said Dr. Felix = Klamut, deputy coroner.=20 According to Apple's website, the iPod is partially made of a hard metal = plate that's been praised for it's resistance to regular wear and tear, = like drops and coffee spills.=20 "It took him a while to die," Dr. Klamut said. "She must have stabbed = him 40 to 80 times with that iPod. His death was not instantaneous, = that's for sure"=20 Arleen Mathers was arraigned Friday night by a video hookup from the = county jail. Municipal Court Judge Simon Lambert set her bond at = $600,000 and scheduled a preliminary hearing for March 9.=20 http://www.liquidgeneration.com/rumormill/ipod_killing.html [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of HeadlinedNews.com - Ipod Used In Domestic Homicide - Mar. 05, 2004.url] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 19:48:44 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Ipod Used In Domestic Homicide In a message dated 3/10/04 6:31:36 PM, keith.indoorminer@virgin.net writes: >As we say over here - only in America! > >MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE (HLN) - A Memphis woman was arrested and charged with >= >first-degree murder after she bludgeoned her boyfriend to death with an >= >iPod okay, this is in totally poor taste, but i can't resist saying that if he'd bought her the iPod mini, he might still be alive today :o\ - -another the paul ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 20:00:00 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Ipod Used In Domestic Homicide On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 Eardrumbuz@aol.com wrote: > okay, this is in totally poor taste, but i can't resist saying that if > he'd bought her the iPod mini, he might still be alive today :o\ I suspect that was a hoax, by the way. Click on any of the links at the side of the page. a ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 20:31:22 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: [idealcopy] acr damn ... like i need to spend more money that i haven't got. i see that acr's graveyard & the ballroom is now out (again? seems like someone mentioned an earlier reissue awhile back) on cd, with to each ... upcoming, though at least i've got the latter. dan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 03:07:24 -0000 From: "Tim" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] acr Last time it was re-issued was on Creation Records, I think nearlly ten years ago. They did all the factory era CDs up to Force...but all are now out of print. Some of these were going for #25+ recently on Ebay. Sextet being the one fetching the highest prices. This new re-issue of 'Graveyard...' by Soul Jazz records comes in a nice sleeve (basically echoes the early Factory singles with the graphic from the original tape insert) and is also on Vinyl for the first time ever. It has 'Thin Boys' and 'And then Again' from Old & the New as 'bonus tracks'. Not sure what the extra tracks on 'To Each' will be (already have the Creation re-issue so won't be buying otherwise), and as far as I know SoulJazz will also be re-releasing Sextet (maybe with the thwacking great 7" mix of Knife Slits Water tagged on) but nothing else after that. Shame because I think 'I'd Like to See You Again' is a superb record. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "dan bailey" To: "ideal copy" Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 2:31 AM Subject: [idealcopy] acr > damn ... like i need to spend more money that i haven't got. i see that > acr's graveyard & the ballroom is now out (again? seems like someone > mentioned an earlier reissue awhile back) on cd, with to each ... upcoming, > though at least i've got the latter. > > dan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 23:12:08 EST From: Tisbili@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Derek Wrote.......... > and i'm putting my one and only muslimgauze cd (actually a 3cd, bought used) > up on ebay. not making it a charity auction for the jnf, but i just don't > want > it in my house anymore. > > -paul c.d. which one is it? Like there's any difference. Distorto beats, finger cymbals, middle eastern field recordings, rough cut editing, and presto, another cd!!! Do bryn's posthumous releases outnumber his prehummus ones yet? His estate [or solielmoon, or whoever is responsible for the graverobbing] is way ahead of Tupac and all of the other dead gangsta rappas combined in the postmortem cash-in by now. billy =-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 22:16:23 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: [idealcopy] speaing obliquely of john mcgeogh ... An Evening with...Siouxsie 03.03.04 Coming to a US City near you in May & June, and youre all invited.. Were presenting these shows as an evening with Siouxsie as theyll be neither solely Creatures nor Banshees but an all encompassing two hour show which will comprise classics & rarities picked from the whole of the Siouxsie & the Banshees & the Creatures catalogues. Were also thrilled to announce that ex-Kodo drummer Leonard Eto will be joining us as our special guest for the debut performance of songs from Hai! The venues are mostly of an intimate size, (more sensorial), therell be no support so get there early as this will be one of those rare chances to see & hear la Sioux - up close! see you soon, xxBudgiexx AN EVENING WITH....SIOUXSIE 2004 U.S. TOUR DATES Wed 19 May, Seattle, WA - The Showbox Tel: 206-628-0221 or 800-325-SEAT ticketswest.com Tix. $27.50 Adv. $30.00 DOS Doors: 8:00PM OnStage: 9:30PM (21+) Fri 21 May, San Francisco, CA - Warfield Theater Tel 415-567-2060 Tix $32.25 Doors: 7:00PM OnStage: 8:00PM (All Ages) Sun 23 May, Anaheim, CA - House Of Blues (Orange County) Tel 714-778-2583 Tix $35 Doors: 8:00PM OnStage: 9:00PM (All Ages) Mon. 24 May, West Hollywood, CA - House Of Blues Tel 323-650-0247 Tix $35 Doors: 7:30PM OnStage: 9:00PM (18+) Tue. 25 May, West Hollywood, CA - House Of Blues Tel 323-650-0247 Tix $35 Doors: 7:30PM OnStage: 9:00PM (18+) Thu. 27 May, Dallas, TX - Gypsy Ballroom Tel 800-512-7469 frontgatetickets.com Tix $26.50 Adv. $28.50 DOS Tix. Doors: 8:00PM OnStage: 9:30PM (17+) Fri 28 May, Austin, TX - Stubb's Bar-B-Q Tel 800-512-7469 frontgatetickets.com Tix $27 Adv. 28.25 DOS Tix. Doors: 7:00PM OnStage: 9:00PM (All Ages) Sun 30 May, New Orleans, LA - House Of Blues Tel 504-596-2475 Tix $35 Doors: 8:00PM OnStage: 9:00PM (18+) Tue. 1 Jun., Atlanta, GA - Variety Playhouse Tel 404-521-1786 Tix $32.50 DOS Tix. Doors: 7:30PM OnStage: 8:30PM (All Ages) Thu. 3 Jun., Chicago, IL - House Of Blues Tel. 312-923-2000 Tix $35 Doors: 7:30PM OnStage: 9:00PM (21+) Fri. 4 Jun., Detroit, MI - The Majestic Theater Tel. 313-833-9700 Tix $35 Doors: 9:00PM OnStage: 10:30PM (All Ages) Sun. 6 Jun., Washington, DC - 9:30 Club Tel. 202-265-0930 Tix $35 Doors: 7:30PM OnStage: 9:00PM (All Ages) Tue. 8 Jun., New York, NY - B.B. King Tel. 212-997-4144 Tix $35 Doors: 6:00PM OnStage: 8:00PM (All Ages) Wed. 9 Jun., New York, NY - B.B. King Tel. 212-997-4144 Tix. $35.00 - Doors: 6:00PM - OnStage: 8:00PM (All Ages) NB: EUROPEAN DATES TO BE ANNOUNCED SHORTLY! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 12:59:12 +0800 From: "Tim ****" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Derek Wrote.......... Belatedly... Sorry to hear about John Mcgeoch. Does Radcliffe play on 'Dumb' & 'Antisocial'? Quite partial to He Said 'Only One I' 12" sleeve & Mannequin 7" pic sleeve Elbow play an acoustic session in a record store on Saturday - should i go?? Have a Staalplaat label sale on now. Np Kaleidoscope Tim - ----Original Message Follows---- From: Tisbili@aol.com To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Derek Wrote.......... Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 23:12:08 EST > and i'm putting my one and only muslimgauze cd (actually a 3cd, bought used) > up on ebay. not making it a charity auction for the jnf, but i just don't > want > it in my house anymore. > > -paul c.d. which one is it? Like there's any difference. Distorto beats, finger cymbals, middle eastern field recordings, rough cut editing, and presto, another cd!!! Do bryn's posthumous releases outnumber his prehummus ones yet? His estate [or solielmoon, or whoever is responsible for the graverobbing] is way ahead of Tupac and all of the other dead gangsta rappas combined in the postmortem cash-in by now. billy =-=-=-=-=- _________________________________________________________________ You could be a genius! Find out by taking the IQ Test 2003. $5.50 (incl GST). Click here: http://sites.ninemsn.com.au/minisite/testaustralia/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 00:05:18 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Derek Wrote.......... i wrote: >> and i'm putting my one and only muslimgauze cd (actually a 3cd, bought >used) >> up on ebay. not making it a charity auction for the jnf, but i just >don't >> want >> it in my house anymore. >> >> -paul c.d. robert asked: >which one is it? billy replied: >Like there's any difference. Distorto beats, finger cymbals, middle eastern >field recordings, rough cut editing, and presto, another cd!!! don't forget the dub mixes and drones... >Do bryn's posthumous releases outnumber his prehummus ones yet? i dunno. this is the 1996 release of fatah guerrilla, so he was still earning a living with this one. i bought it used however, so i only supported the indie shop, right?... who knows. i've always been of the belief that buying used cds still supports the artists, because it let's teh shop owners know what sells and they're more likely to stock that artist because of a sale (used or new). anyway, i just don't listen to it. but his political views, and that i own the cd, fit in with a current thread...which is why i posted it (i really am selling it though). anyway, i like dan's response better (but i hope he's not purging!): >& i'm gonna get rid of all my ramones stuff because johnny is a right-wing >creep. there's some evidence ian [curtis] was, too, so the jd releases are >hanging in the balance. not sure about morrissey, but still ... might as >well purge his releases & the smiths' as well. neil young keeps >vacillating -- probably i'll wear out my tires dragging his albums to the >used place, then returning to buy them back when he changes his position >on >various american presidents, but what the hell. > >no more banshees, either -- "too many jews for my liking," indeed. > >now i'm wondering if i can get a fair price for that damned racist hp >lovecraft's books ... :o) paul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 00:08:27 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] speaing obliquely of john mcgeogh ... In a message dated 3/10/04 11:21:55 PM, dpbailey@worldnet.att.net writes: >Tix $35 "an evening with siouxsee/a morning after without your cash" could be the title of the gig...dunno if i'll be getting to this one :o( - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 23:33:25 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Derek Wrote.......... >who knows. i've always been of the belief that buying used cds still supports >the artists, because it let's teh shop owners know what sells and they're >more likely to stock that artist because of a sale (used or new). dunno ... i can speak only for little rock & montgomery (& to a much lesser extent new orleans, memphis & atlanta), but as far as i can tell many shopowners pretty much buy anything brought into them. how else to explain my finding current 93 & death in june cds in little rock (different store than the one where all skrewed up turned up), muslimgauze, c93, wumpscut, nocturnal emissions, spell, non & probably 3/4ths of creaming jesus' output here in alabama, etc? in fact, when the latter store's owner filed for bankruptcy last year (his shop is now back at another location & a vastly smaller stock), the owner of the only other used place in town told me that at least part of the problem (an xmastime burglary certainly didn't help) was that the guy would buy pretty much *anything*. & of course he could sell only a certain, albeit sizable, portion of the flotsam to me ... > >anyway, i just don't listen to it. but his political views, and that i own >the cd, fit in with a current thread...which is why i posted it (i really am >selling it though). anyway, i like dan's response better (but i hope he's not >purging!): not likely. looking around here at the tottering stacks, bulging boxes & swaybacked shelves of cds, records, cassettes, books, zines, comics, flyers, dvds, videotapes, etc, it's damnably obvious that i'm far more likely to *binge* ... dan > >>& i'm gonna get rid of all my ramones stuff because johnny is a right-wing >>creep. there's some evidence ian [curtis] was, too, so the jd releases are >>hanging in the balance. not sure about morrissey, but still ... might as >>well purge his releases & the smiths' as well. neil young keeps >>vacillating -- probably i'll wear out my tires dragging his albums to the >>used place, then returning to buy them back when he changes his position >>on >>various american presidents, but what the hell. >> >>no more banshees, either -- "too many jews for my liking," indeed. >> >>now i'm wondering if i can get a fair price for that damned racist hp >>lovecraft's books ... > >:o) paul ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V7 #73 ******************************