From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V7 #72 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Wednesday, March 10 2004 Volume 07 : Number 072 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] OT:Brian Wilson Plays Drill! [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Ot: Come On, Pilgrim, about this holy bible ["Keith Astbu] Re: [idealcopy] Ot: Come On, Pilgrim, about this holy bible [Andrew Walki] Re: [idealcopy] Ot: Come On, Pilgrim, about this holy bible [MarkBursa@ao] Re: [idealcopy] Does Graham Lewis moonlight as Brad Friedel? AND do acting too? ["Derek White" ] [idealcopy] Wire album/single art [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Ot: Come On, Pilgrim, about this holy bible ["Keith Astbu] RE: [idealcopy] Wire album/single art ["Jack Alberson" ] Re: [idealcopy] Ot: Come On, Pilgrim, about this holy bible [PaulRabjohn@] Re: [idealcopy]OT: PIXIES advice....../ F. Ferdinand / J. Stone [PaulRabj] Re: [idealcopy] OT - John McGeogh R.I.P.... [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] OT - John McGeogh R.I.P.... ["dan bailey" ] Re: [idealcopy] Ot: Come On, Pilgrim, about this holy bible ["Keith Astbu] Re: [idealcopy] Does Graham Lewis moonlight as Brad Friedel? AND do acting too? [Tisbili] Re: [idealcopy] Does Graham Lewis moonlight as Brad Friedel? AND do acting too? [Eardrumbuz] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 06:45:52 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT:Brian Wilson Plays Drill! > and a segment called 'Mrs O'Learys Cow' which is dark...Throbbing Gristle > dark. > I've always thought this sounded like New Order's Murder... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 11:04:43 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Ot: Come On, Pilgrim, about this holy bible > I picked up "The Holy Bible" by the Manics and > "Surfer Rosa" in a run-down branch of Our Price in Dunfermline, just > after a job interview for being a call-centre drone for Sky TV (I got > the job). > > The Manics record is easily their strongest; I'd maintain it's a very > good, if highly derivative, album (though it seemed like more at the > time: I just didn't have the context to see who they were ripping > off). I find Holy Bible hard to listen to. It's not that I dislike it - I seem to be one of the few people here that likes the Manics and there's some good stuff there - but it's sheer sense of misery seems hard going in a way that something like Closer (to pick a classic example of an album that isn't exactly a laugh a minute) certainly isn't. Obviously, I'm not sung for a minute that HB is in anywhere near the class. PJ Harvey's Rid of Me is another example of a hard to listen to album for me. There was much to admire, but very little to *love*. Of course, I bought that before I discovered she was pro-foxhunting and stopped buying her records altogether. > I was in the process of becoming a complete Mogwai fanboy already, and > that cemented my feeling that there was music out there which *wasn't* > obvious but that I could still enjoy. What's the feeling here about the last Mogwai album? I only got it a couple of months ago, and have to say I think it's yet another classy effort. Keith (who will, one way or another, endeavour to hear Pilgrim soon!!) NP Killing Joke (ASTEROID!!! has just finished!!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 12:49:35 +0000 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Ot: Come On, Pilgrim, about this holy bible On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 11:04:43AM -0000, Keith Astbury wrote: > I find Holy Bible hard to listen to. It's not that I dislike it - I seem to > be one of the few people here that likes the Manics and there's some good > stuff there - but it's sheer sense of misery seems hard going in a way that > something like Closer (to pick a classic example of an album that isn't > exactly a laugh a minute) certainly isn't. Obviously, I'm not sung for a > minute that HB is in anywhere near the class. I'd agree there; even the songs Richey James didn't write the words to (eg "This is Yesterday") are imbued with despair. It's a harrowing record. (Mansun's "Six" is another album I find hard to listen to for similar reasons; it's the audio analogue to a panic attack, febrile and terrified). > > I was in the process of becoming a complete Mogwai fanboy already, and > > that cemented my feeling that there was music out there which *wasn't* > > obvious but that I could still enjoy. > > What's the feeling here about the last Mogwai album? I only got it a couple > of months ago, and have to say I think it's yet another classy effort. I think it's an interesting follow-on from the aesthetic of Rock Action, and a very good album; "Hunted By a Freak" might be one of their best tracks yet. - - Andrew - -- Earth Sciences, University of Cambridge http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ Programme Controller, CUR1350 http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ email: andrew@lexical.org.uk Random Walk ::: Wednesday, 11pm ::: cur1350.co.uk ::: is this music? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 09:59:24 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Ot: Come On, Pilgrim, about this holy bible > >>PJ Harvey's Rid of Me is another example of a hard to listen to album for > me. There was much to admire, but very little to *love*. Of course, I bought > that before I discovered she was pro-foxhunting and stopped buying her > records altogether.<< Really? Something as trivial as a miuldly unsavoury view (and Polly is a country gal after all) and you boycott an artist? Did you chuck your treasured Gary Glitter singles (and I know you've got some!) on the bonfire when he turned out to be a kiddie fiddler? Just curious... I an't imagine political correctness getting in the way to that extent... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 15:09:45 +0000 From: "Derek White" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Does Graham Lewis moonlight as Brad Friedel? AND do acting too? >Anybody else think Graham Lewis looks a little Brad Friedl-esque? He sure does..... perhaps G.L. does a spot of 'moonlighting' under an assumed name during slack times at the studio. He also looks somewhat like an actor who's name, frustratingly, I can't recall, but movie buffs *may* be able to identify from the following description: I'm pretty sure he was in 'Predator', and numerous other such films. His not-exactly-matinee-idol looks have led to him being typecast as a gruff career soldier, usually seen in combat fatigues with pocket-flaps, belts and any other trailing edges being liberally festooned with grenades, knives,guns and sundry other tools of the trade. If there's, say, half a dozen in the platoon, he's always the one carrying the heavy-calibre machine gun, with enough ammo slung round his neck to refight Guadalcanal on his own. May very possibly have been in 'Alien', too, as an early victim. In fact, that's one of the defining characteristics of the parts this guy does: 'meat for the monster', if you know what I mean. He usually dies a horrible, gory and spectacular death at the hands of the enemy/acid-dripping latex monster by the time the movie's halfway through. If you were being kind to the guy, you'd have to say that he looks like a bulldog chewing a wasp. (Not that Mr Lewis looks quite as 'lived in'...;-) Now if only I could remember his name...... any clues, from the description anyone? _________________________________________________________________ Find a cheaper internet access deal - choose one to suit you. http://www.msn.co.uk/internetaccess ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 10:29:26 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Does Graham Lewis moonlight as Brad Friedel? AND do acting too? > >Anybody else think Graham Lewis looks a little Brad Friedl-esque? > He sure does..... << > > Ah, the old Football Wire thread.... > > Certainly Brad makes a fine curent EGL - always thought Christian Ziege had > a touch of the younger Lewis about him, as did James Beattie before he bulked > up and got a silly haircut (though not as silly as Graham's mullet). > Overpaid ex-Boro Striker Alen Boksic has a look of '79 Gilbert about him. > Czech beanpole CF Jan Koller is definitely yer Gotobed. > Colin is more of a problem. Journeyman midfielder Craig Hignett is the closest match I've found so far... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 07:36:22 -0800 (PST) From: Fergus Kelly Subject: [idealcopy] Our own correspondent Keith said: >Thanks for all this, Phillip. I'm sure I speak for >everyone when I say how >much I enjoyed your updates. ))) Yeah, nice one Phillip ye lucky bollix, enjoyed your photos (lookin' very pleased with yerself !), esp. Colin reaching for the Pod, and nice one of Rob at The Gaelic Club. Have to say though, the sight of two young lasses joining the lads onstage was rather surreal. Shades of The Stranglers circa 1978.. 'cept the girls remained 'decent'..:) >I'd love to do what you did. I've certainly >considered >trying to take in the >three Scottish gigs - I've never been to Glasgow or >Aberdeen for god's >sake!! - but at the moment I think I'm gonna struggle >to see any... ))) Yeah, still in the balance about Glasgow for me... Fergus np - Ligeti: Melodien __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 16:39:51 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Does Graham Lewis moonlight as Brad Friedel? AND do acting too? > >Anybody else think Graham Lewis looks a little Brad Friedl-esque? > > He sure does..... perhaps G.L. does a spot of 'moonlighting' under an > assumed name during slack times at the studio. Well Brad's not looked himself this season, so who knows!! > If there's, say, half a > dozen in the platoon, he's always the one carrying the heavy-calibre machine > gun, with enough ammo slung round his neck to refight Guadalcanal on his > own. Nobody said being the bassist in Wire was easy ; ) > If you were being > kind to the guy, you'd have to say that he looks like a bulldog chewing a > wasp. (Not that Mr Lewis looks quite as 'lived in'...;-) Our Graham must be very flattered if he's reading. > Overpaid ex-Boro Striker Alen Boksic has a look of '79 Gilbert about him. Yes!! With ex-Gunner Alan Smith as a later version! Keith ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 16:55:50 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Ot: Come On, Pilgrim, about this holy bible > > >>PJ Harvey's Rid of Me is another example of a hard to listen to album for > > me. There was much to admire, but very little to *love*. Of course, I bought > > that before I discovered she was pro-foxhunting and stopped buying her > > records altogether.<< > > Really? Something as trivial as a miuldly unsavoury view (and Polly is a > country gal after all) and you boycott an artist? Yep! Though I wouldn't call fox-hunting mildly unsavoury. Bought A Perfect Day Elise as planned, but didn't buy the album. Let my principles down slightly by figuring - in my own way! - that as I really liked the single, I'd get it, but that what I hadn't heard I wouldn't miss. And I didn't. Haven't bought anything by her since (unless the contribution to the Nick Cave album came later, can't recall off the top of my head). Interestingly enough, I haven't played APDE - or anything else by PJH - in a long, long time. > Did you chuck your treasured > Gary Glitter singles (and I know you've got some!) on the bonfire when he turned > out to be a kiddie fiddler? No, but I haven't thrown my old PJ records away either. And I haven't bought any others - getting that GG compilation on cd has been put on permanant hold. Similarly, as a veggie, I haven't bought any Jethro Tull records since Ian Anderson started his trout farm. Of course, the fact that they're shite makes this an easier loss to deal with ; ) >Just curious... I an't imagine political correctness getting in the way to that extent... Really? Would you buy a Skrewdriver single, even if it was brilliant??? Keith ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 12:07:23 -0500 From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Ot: Come On, Pilgrim, about this holy bible hmmm , keith , the manics pathetic utterances wishing people died of AIDS seem to add very little to life's rich tapestry and seem vastly more offensive than polly castrating the odd bullock or suchlike in rural devon. seems a bit harsh to boycott her on these grounds , i don't quite think her new look is going to be shaven head and tattooed knuckles. and "rid of me" is just soooooo much better than anything the manics could dream of. so there. p ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 12:13:25 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Ot: Come On, Pilgrim, about this holy bible >>>Just curious... I an't imagine political correctness getting in the way to that extent... Really? Would you buy a Skrewdriver single, even if it was brilliant???<< Well Skrewdriver did make two brilliant singles (Antisocial and You're so dumb) and there was no hint of latent Nazi tendencies in either. Read Mark Radcliffe's amusing account of being their drummer for further evidence that their unsavoury side was still in the future (though not far in the future - Ian Donaldson was busy sieg heiling at local bands at Blackpool gigs by 1980). But no, I'd have no qualms about owning either of those singles. I wouldn't want any of the later white supremacist shite though, and by your logic it couldn't be brilliant. Likewise a PJH record that was openly pro-hunting would not be brilliant. owever, a Jethro Tull record espousing piscine genocide would be a rare treat. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 17:53:56 -0000 From: "Andrew Lumbard" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Buzzcocks DVD Yes, I think it probably was. We saw them on the Thursday before the Barbican. Didn't play quite as much when we were there. Showing off for the cameras on the dVD. I'd also guess that 32 Buzzcocks tracks would last nearly 2 hours. Excellent!! AndyL >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org]On >> Behalf Of Fergus Kelly >> Sent: 08 March 2004 10:44 >> To: idealcopy@smoe.org >> Subject: [idealcopy] Buzzcocks DVD >> >> >> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 18:10:57 -0000 >> From: "Andrew Lumbard" >> Subject: RE: [idealcopy] a Wire coincidence.. >> >> Hmmm..... >> Just got 'Buzzcocks Live at Shepherds Bush' DVD for my >> >> birthday (today). >> Executive Producers for Secret Films - Frank Lea/Colin >> >> Newman >> >> ))) Would this be the gig they did the Sunday after >> flag:burning ? Apart from all the cartoon punks >> jumping all over the gaff at the front, which >> effectively curtailed my photo taking, it was a very >> enjoyable gig. I think they played for the best part >> of two hours ! I was fucking knackered at the end ! >> >> Fergus >> >> >> I am the walrus >> I am the fly >> I am Damo Suzuki >> I am the gymnast >> >> >> >> __________________________________ >> Do you Yahoo!? >> Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster >> http://search.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 14:47:19 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Wire album/single art i have decided that my favorite Wire cover art is the In Vivo 12"...and my favorite solo project cover art is He Said "Take Care"....always liked that one... (with Duet Emmo "Or So it Seems" being a close second) RL np - Beyond the Machines (Infonet compilation from 1993) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 19:59:20 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Ot: Come On, Pilgrim, about this holy bible > hmmm , keith , the manics pathetic utterances wishing people died of AIDS seem to add very little to life's rich tapestry and seem vastly more offensive than polly castrating the odd bullock or suchlike in rural devon. Well those comments by the Manics certainly weren't clever, though I would have hoped that it was more a rather pathetic attempt at being controversial than any genuine wish on their behalf. *Hopefully*, they regret their words now. And what's this bullock-hunting you're talking about? Is this some new rural sport ; ) > seems a bit harsh to boycott her on these grounds , i don't quite think her new look is going to be shaven head and tattooed knuckles. Well ain't that a pity ; ) >and "rid of me" is just soooooo much better than anything the manics could dream of. so there. p I'm not gonna argue. I liked PJH - To Bring You My Love was my FAVOURITE album of 1995. In fact, that's my point! I don't consider myself a political animal (no pun intended) by any means, but as an animal lover I find the whole concept of hunting for sport distasteful in the extreme, and by not handing my coffers over to Miss Harvey I feel like I'm making a point, no matter how small. But back to Skrewdriver - I've read the Mark Radcliffe book, too (very enjoyable I seem to recall) and remember him making that point. But if they were to release a great single NOW that didn't mention their political views, would you buy it knowing what you do about them? Now I'm curious ; ) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 14:02:33 -0600 From: "Jack Alberson" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Wire album/single art Album cover art = IBTABA I like the stark photograph on the front a lot. Runner up would be the On Returning comp Single = "Mannequin" Favorite solo project art would be Colin's Commercial Suicide. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of RLynn9@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 1:47 PM To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: [idealcopy] Wire album/single art i have decided that my favorite Wire cover art is the In Vivo 12"...and my favorite solo project cover art is He Said "Take Care"....always liked that one... (with Duet Emmo "Or So it Seems" being a close second) RL np - Beyond the Machines (Infonet compilation from 1993) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 15:06:19 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire album/single art In a message dated 3/9/04 2:03:48 PM Central Standard Time, ppmgmt1@bellsouth.net writes: > Single = "Mannequin" there was cover art for Mannequin? really? what does it look like? RL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 14:09:41 -0600 From: "Jack Alberson" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Wire album/single art Here's a link to the cover art: http://fusionanomaly.net/wiremannequin.jpg It reminds me a little of a perverse homage to Kraftwerk. lol - -----Original Message----- From: RLynn9@aol.com [mailto:RLynn9@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 2:06 PM To: ppmgmt1@bellsouth.net; idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire album/single art In a message dated 3/9/04 2:03:48 PM Central Standard Time, ppmgmt1@bellsouth.net writes: > Single = "Mannequin" there was cover art for Mannequin? really? what does it look like? RL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 21:46:27 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy]OT: PIXIES advice....../ F. Ferdinand / J. Stone > i thought highly of the breeders' first 2 at the time, but the last several > years have found myself utterly uninterested in going back & listening to > them again (except to extract driving on 9, a cover, for any number of mix > tapes & now cds). as opposed to frank's teenager of the year, a perennial > favorite. Driving to band rehearsal I was playing a Gillian Welch compilation to my friend and we both simultaneously were reminded of Driving on Nine. Such a sweet voice Kim has. I like Last Splash end triptych a lot anyway, with Hag and Saints. And last week I had Teenager of the Year on in the car every day - surely Frank's best by far! Bart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 21:50:50 +0000 From: "ian s jackson" Subject: [idealcopy] OT - John McGeogh R.I.P.... what the fuck...??? i was only glancing at my Secondhand Daylight flyer the other day and thinking...'well, at least all these guys are still around'....shit, this is very sad news... http://www.stevenseverin.com/johnmcgeoch.htm ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 16:57:56 EST From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - John McGeogh R.I.P.... In a message dated 09/03/2004 21:53:11 GMT Standard Time, iansjackson@hotmail.com writes: > what the fuck...??? i was only glancing at my Secondhand Daylight flyer the > > other day and thinking...'well, at least all these guys are still > around'....shit, this is very sad news... > > Very sad news indeed.R.I.P. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 22:06:18 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - John McGeogh R.I.P.... Shit. He deserves his place in history just for his contribution to Permafrost, let alone anything else. > what the fuck...??? i was only glancing at my Secondhand Daylight flyer the > other day and thinking...'well, at least all these guys are still > around'....shit, this is very sad news... > > http://www.stevenseverin.com/johnmcgeoch.htm > > ian.s.j. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 22:12:58 -0000 From: "Ian B" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire album/single art - ----- Original Message ----- From: > i have decided that my favorite Wire cover art is the In Vivo 12"...and my > favorite solo project cover art is He Said "Take Care"....always liked that > one... (with Duet Emmo "Or So it Seems" being a close second) True about the Take Care artwork. Can't say that I've had lasting affection for the contents though. Far inferior to Hail and all that's come since. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 17:15:10 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Ot: Come On, Pilgrim, about this holy bible In a message dated 09/03/2004 19:57:09 GMT Standard Time, keith.indoorminer@virgin.net writes: > And what's this bullock-hunting you're talking about? Is this some new > rural > sport ; ) > > /////i think she was more into farming them (hence the castration) rather > than hunting them but i could be wrong on this............... > > But back to Skrewdriver - I've read the Mark Radcliffe book, too (very > enjoyable I seem to recall) and remember him making that point. But if they > were to release a great single NOW that didn't mention their political > views, would you buy it knowing what you do about them? > > Now I'm curious ; ) ////// i think there's about as much chance of that as the manics releasing something i'd have in the house (i.e zero) so this seems more a conceptual point than one based on reality. but , er , i think i'd give it a miss to be honest. p ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 17:17:44 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy]OT: PIXIES advice....../ F. Ferdinand / J. Stone In a message dated 09/03/2004 20:47:56 GMT Standard Time, bartvandamme@home.nl writes: > And last week I had Teenager of the Year on in the car every day - surely > Frank's best by far! > > ////they showed the "hang on to your ego" video on mtv 120 minutes last saturday , i think that's repeated tonight (or maybe tomorrow). not a very good single or a good video to be honest. p ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 17:20:16 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - John McGeogh R.I.P.... is this recent (i can't get that link to work)? that's really sad. in that "banshees family tree" show of a couple of years back he looked really rough ; what did he die of? sad news. p ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 11:38:26 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - John McGeogh R.I.P.... i believe the website said he died thursday in his sleep. no other details. damnation. dan >is this recent (i can't get that link to work)? that's really sad. in that >"banshees family tree" show of a couple of years back he looked really rough ; >what did he die of? > >sad news. p ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 11:42:43 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Ot: Come On, Pilgrim, about this holy bible i *will* buy stuff by people whose views on various subjects i find offensive, but i won't buy them new, hence depriving them & their record companies of my money (prominent case in point: all skrewed up, which about a decade ago i found for $3 or so, still shrinkwrapped, at the used store near my house back in arkansas). dan >> hmmm , keith , the manics pathetic utterances wishing people died of AIDS >seem to add very little to life's rich tapestry and seem vastly more >offensive than polly castrating the odd bullock or suchlike in rural devon. > >Well those comments by the Manics certainly weren't clever, though I would >have hoped that it was more a rather pathetic attempt at being controversial >than any genuine wish on their behalf. *Hopefully*, they regret their words >now. > >And what's this bullock-hunting you're talking about? Is this some new rural >sport ; ) > >> seems a bit harsh to boycott her on these grounds , i don't quite think >her new look is going to be shaven head and tattooed knuckles. > >Well ain't that a pity ; ) > >>and "rid of me" is just soooooo much better than anything the manics could >dream of. so there. p > >I'm not gonna argue. I liked PJH - To Bring You My Love was my FAVOURITE >album of 1995. In fact, that's my point! I don't consider myself a political >animal (no pun intended) by any means, but as an animal lover I find the >whole concept of hunting for sport distasteful in the extreme, and by not >handing my coffers over to Miss Harvey I feel like I'm making a point, no >matter how small. > >But back to Skrewdriver - I've read the Mark Radcliffe book, too (very >enjoyable I seem to recall) and remember him making that point. But if they >were to release a great single NOW that didn't mention their political >views, would you buy it knowing what you do about them? > >Now I'm curious ; ) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 17:46:19 EST From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - John McGeogh R.I.P.... In a message dated 09/03/2004 22:30:54 GMT Standard Time, dpbailey@worldnet.att.net writes: > believe the website said he died thursday in his sleep. no other details. > damnation. > Here's a recent photo of the man.... http://shotbybothsides.com/mag_j1hn.jpg ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 11:59:57 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - John McGeogh R.I.P.... >In a message dated 09/03/2004 22:30:54 GMT Standard Time, >dpbailey@worldnet.att.net writes: > >> believe the website said he died thursday in his sleep. no other details. >> damnation. >> > >Here's a recent photo of the man.... > >http://shotbybothsides.com/mag_j1hn.jpg a bit rough, indeed. then again, were a photo of me today to be run alongside one of me 20 or 25 years ago, i probably would be adjudged to be somewhere in the proximity of death's door (not that i'd be able to fit through it, of course). *sigh* dan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 18:11:40 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT - John McGeogh R.I.P.... So here we are again, talking about inventive scottish guitarists called John who haven't exactly looked after themselves. Such a shame - McGeogh in his pomp was as good as it gets. Only saw him with the Banshees but he was phenomenal. And, of course, a pioneer of the 'effect pedal on a stand' technique beloved of a certain other, rather better-preserved 49-yr-old post-punk axe hero)... That's put a real downer on what had been a very enjoyable evening. Some of you will know what I mean... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 18:26:59 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Ot: Come On, Pilgrim, about this holy bible > >>But back to Skrewdriver - I've read the Mark Radcliffe book, too (very > enjoyable I seem to recall) and remember him making that point. But if they > were to release a great single NOW that didn't mention their political > views, would you buy it knowing what you do about them?<< It would be truly miraculous in many ways if Skrewdriver were to release a great single, what with Ian Donaldson being dead and all that. They are an extreme case, and not really comparable to PJH. Same as you can't really compare the Duke of Beaufort's hunt with the SS, though I suspect there's less political distance than there ought to be... So I probably would give Skrewdriver's grerat posthumous comeback a miss. Though I might download it. Using an alias. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 23:33:24 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Monochromatic=20Man?= Subject: [idealcopy] OT: Attn Chicago area ICers / My Robot Friend > xoxo your robot friend >> howard > > p.s. i've got a show coming up in chicago on > saturday, march 27th at metro. > i've got a few free complimentary tickets i can give > away. if you're from > chicago and want to come out to the show, write me a > flattering, sexually > suggestive email! tickets will be given away on a > first-come-first-served > basis. > ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 00:03:08 +0000 From: "Jason Rogers" Subject: [idealcopy] RE: hotlanta >Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 15:48:34 GMT >From: P J Kane >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] RE: hotlanta > ><< Einsturzende Neubauten at Masquerade, etc. >> > >when is this show? it's not mentioned in the Masq's ad's as of yet, and i >can never find their >website... The Einsturzende Neubauten show is set for mid-May at the Masquerade and tickets are onsale right now on Ticketmaster, I think. It would be a great one. Not sure if I'll be there, as I'm going to spend the next year getting some financial ducks in a row in order to buy a house (and meanwhile watch helplessly as the interest rate goes up). What can I say? I could buy a house right now, but the ones in my price range are too far out beyond the 285 perimeter for me to enjoy the commute and I'm afraid to invest in a condo because several friends of mine have horror stories about trying to sell their own condos. Might set a few bucks aside for the Einsturzende Neubauten show, though. > >i enjoyed it very much as well. still a quality act. what is up with >Kilbey's beard and long hair -- he >looked like a LotR cast reject... did >he get a cameo in one of the movies? > Steve Kilbey's performance did surprise me. The long hair and the beard made him look a lot like Ted Kaczynski or someone like that. Peter Koppes and Marty Wilson-Piper looked just like I expected they would, though. The recent Peter Koppes song, "Appalatia", was one of my personal highlights of the show. For all of the Pixies talk going on: My personal favorite Pixies albums are Surfer Rosa and Bossanova. You really can't go wrong with anything that the Pixies have released, though; it's all worth a purchase. I discovered Pixies back in 1989 shortly after Dolittle was released and the band was a soundtrack to my college years shortly afterward because I quickly bought every single Pixies release that was out thus far. My Pixies collection didn't help me get more dates, but I did have some great music to listen to while not dating. The funny thing about Pixies is that every person whom I've recommended a Pixies album to has gone out and bought all of the Pixies releases shortly thereafter. I've never had a friend tell me, "I bought that Pixies album you suggested and it's alright." Instead, everyone has said, "I bought that Pixies album that you suggested and then I went out and bought all of the other ones over that next month." I don't know anyone who has just one Pixies album. People that I've come across either have every Pixies release or none at all. One of my great music regrets is not having seen Pixies back when they were (originally) together. Hopefully, that will be remedied within the next year if Pixies tour Atlanta on the second run. If that happens, and if New Order will get their asses over here to Atlanta after their currently-in-the-making album, then the last two bands on my "must see before I die" list will be taken care of. Jason _________________________________________________________________ Frustrated with dial-up? Lightning-fast Internet access for as low as $29.95/month. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200360ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 00:10:34 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Ot: Come On, Pilgrim, about this holy bible > It would be truly miraculous in many ways if Skrewdriver were to release a > great single, what with Ian Donaldson being dead and all that. That would, of course, make it more difficult ; ) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 22:26:04 EST From: Tisbili@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Does Graham Lewis moonlight as Brad Friedel? AND do acting too? In a message dated 3/9/2004 10:10:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, zak_blakk@hotmail.com writes: > He also looks somewhat like an actor who's name, frustratingly, I can't > recall, but movie buffs *may* be able to identify from the following > description: > > I'm pretty sure he was in 'Predator', and numerous other such films. His > not-exactly-matinee-idol looks have led to him being typecast as a gruff > career soldier, usually seen in combat fatigues with pocket-flaps, belts and > > any other trailing edges being liberally festooned with grenades, > knives,guns and sundry other tools of the trade. If there's, say, half a > dozen in the platoon, he's always the one carrying the heavy-calibre machine > > gun, with enough ammo slung round his neck to refight Guadalcanal on his > own. May very possibly have been in 'Alien', too, as an early victim. You're in Bill Paxton or Michael Biehn territory there. billE =-=-=-=-=-=- rp: you don't wanna know ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 22:45:14 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Does Graham Lewis moonlight as Brad Friedel? AND do acting too? by any chance are you thinking of john saxon? - -paul c.d. In a message dated 3/9/04 10:10:47 AM, zak_blakk@hotmail.com writes: >He usually dies a >horrible, gory and spectacular death at the hands of the enemy/acid-dripping > >latex monster by the time the movie's halfway through. If you were being > >kind to the guy, you'd have to say that he looks like a bulldog chewing >a >wasp. (Not that Mr Lewis looks quite as 'lived in'...;-) > > Now if only I could remember his name...... any clues, from >the >description anyone? ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V7 #72 ******************************