From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V7 #67 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Saturday, March 6 2004 Volume 07 : Number 067 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Franz Ferdinand [Bart van Damme ] RE: [Maybe Spam] [idealcopy] Franz Ferdinand ["Clements, Bruno - BUP" ] Re: [idealcopy] johnny rotten......... [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Franz Ferdinand [Bart van Damme ] Re: [idealcopy]...WIRE ripoffs ["Derek White" ] RE: [idealcopy] Wire Brisbane gig ["Derek White" ] RE: [idealcopy]...WIRE ripoffs ["Jack Alberson" ] Re: [idealcopy] Fw: Which punk rock god are you - Quizilla ["Derek White"] Re: [idealcopy] Fw: Which punk rock god are you - Quizilla [RLynn9@aol.co] [idealcopy] Fw: Piece of paper with David Bowie on it ["Keith Astbury" ] [idealcopy] Spears and Hooks ["Keith Astbury" ] [idealcopy] RE: idealcopy-digest V7 #66 ["Jason Rogers" ] Re: [idealcopy] Spears and Hooks ["Tim" ] RE: [idealcopy] OT.. Pere Ubu ["Tim ****" Subject: [idealcopy] Franz Ferdinand The Franz Ferdinand gig in the Amsterdam Paradiso tomorrow was sold out allmost immediately, but a friend of mine managed to some tickets online. Yay! Bart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 10:27:45 -0000 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: RE: [Maybe Spam] [idealcopy] Franz Ferdinand Yeah, but I've been told that UK/US bands always whack the volume up too high at the Paradiso, thereby compounding the problems caused by the already dodgy acoustics. Have a good time but don't forget your earplugs! Bruno (who's not really influenced by missing out on FF tickets at the Triptych Festival. Much) - -----Original Message----- From: Bart van Damme [mailto:bartvandamme@home.nl] Sent: 05 March 2004 10:24 To: wire-news Subject: [Maybe Spam] [idealcopy] Franz Ferdinand The Franz Ferdinand gig in the Amsterdam Paradiso tomorrow was sold out allmost immediately, but a friend of mine managed to some tickets online. Yay! Bart ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 10:32:36 -0000 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: RE: [Maybe Spam] [idealcopy] Mark E Smith's Fall... Yeah, I'd been looking forward to the Bristol gig (scheduled for Wednesday night) for weeks :-( Bruno - -----Original Message----- From: Keith Astbury [mailto:keith.indoorminer@virgin.net] Sent: 04 March 2004 15:16 To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: [Maybe Spam] [idealcopy] Mark E Smith's Fall... Apparently The Fall cancelled a gig last week. Read on the net the following... "A mate of mine says (on good authority I may add) that while The Fall were playing Newcastle recently, MES was in the foyer of the temporary hotel (where he or the 'band' were staying ), when he was hovering around the other hotel guests "asking for a light". As there seemed to be not many smokers in the immediate area, Mr. Smith made his way to the main doorway....as he reached the pavement, he slipped on some ice and fell, fracturing a bone and as he lay there......only to be noticed by a passerby who tried to lift him up, who then dropped him again- breaking whatever bone in another place!....." ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 13:52:51 +0100 From: "Jan J Noorda" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Franz Ferdinand Maybe it's an idea to visit Pinkpop. This year with b.e. Franz Ferdinand and the Pixies. For me it'is of topic. To crowded JJN The Franz Ferdinand gig in the Amsterdam Paradiso tomorrow was sold out allmost immediately, but a friend of mine managed to some tickets online. > Yay! > > Bart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 09:17:14 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] johnny rotten......... In a message dated 3/4/04 11:14:43 PM Central Standard Time, dpbailey@worldnet.att.net writes: > >of the deep south...danSomehow just can't imagine Johnny with a southern > drawl....Ari > > ah, but jason's is rather more pronounced than mine (or so it sounded to my > ears the 3 or so times we've met at gigs). i've been accused more than once > of not having a southern accent at all, but i seriously doubt the accuracy > of that assessment. > > pass the grits, y'all ... > > dan > i much prefer the charm of a southern accent over a new jersey/new york accent anyday....ugh...meeting a woman with a ny/nj accent is such a turn-off .... RL np - Keith A.'s Tarwater cds ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 15:35:04 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Franz Ferdinand Same here! Wouldn't be caught dead going to Pinkpop. I do hope to get to see the Pixies one time though. In the meantime looking forward to FF tomorrow! :-) Bart > Maybe it's an idea to visit Pinkpop. This year with b.e. Franz Ferdinand and > the Pixies. For me it'is of topic. To crowded > > JJN >> The Franz Ferdinand gig in the Amsterdam Paradiso tomorrow was sold out >> allmost immediately, but a friend of mine managed to some tickets online. >> >> Yay! >> Bart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 14:51:18 +0000 From: "Derek White" Subject: Re: [idealcopy]...WIRE ripoffs > > The *ENTIRETY* of that bloody Menswear single >I'm probably in a minority here, but I liked Daydreamer (and Being Brave >for that matter). I didn't say that I *didn't* like it as such: it *was* a moderately catchy little piece if my recollections of hearing it 2 or 3 times are right:- it's just that I thought it "borrowed" so-oo heavily from Wire it was like hearing a 'Baron Nights play Wire' session. The 'template' of the song, minimal, unfussy, instrumentation, and the dead stop/start again bits, and IIRC, a very Colin-esque vocal delivery. Also, didn't it have a sort of "I am the Fly" intro, atonal chromatic guitar figure snaking it's way about at the top of the song? They may *not* have directly filched any specific riffs, phrases or whatever, but the modus operandi of Newman/Lewis/Gilbert/Grey sorta seeped in by osmosis, if you're being charitable. Or, if you don't feel like giving them the benefit of the doubt, they sat in a room, played the first 3 wire abums back to back, and cobbled together their approximation of what they'd heard. Perhaps starting with '...Fly' and 'Lowdown', perhaps? [It *is* a long time since I heard the offending single, so I may be off the mark, there] I'd kinda like to hear it again, sometime, just to see if my initial impressions are still borne out. Did the band ever acknowledge where they'sd sourced their (ahem) 'inspiration' from? IMHO, it'd be cheeky NOT TO...... >(and Being Brave for that matter). /// I don't think I know that one... _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 15:01:21 +0000 From: "Derek White" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Wire Brisbane gig >From: Phillip Blakeney WIRE BRISBANE March 2 2004 > At last Wire arrive on Australian shores. I will be at the Sydney show tomorrow night and Melbourne on Sunday, ****so there is still more to come!!**** Glad to hear it Phil: I'm sure I speak for many other listmembers when I say "thanks" for the informative reveiw, and getting the pics up on the web so promptly. Look forward to more pics'n'stuff from the above shows? DW _________________________________________________________________ Find a cheaper internet access deal - choose one to suit you. http://www.msn.co.uk/internetaccess ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 09:19:44 -0600 From: "Jack Alberson" Subject: RE: [idealcopy]...WIRE ripoffs Yeah, "Daydreamer" is one of my favorite Wire 'style homages' as it's not on the Elastica 'ripping off' level. My favorite Elastica 'rip off' was that one on the '6 song EP' where they pretty much ripped off 'Practise Makes Perfect' but bugger all if I can't recall its name! "I didn't say that I *didn't* like it as such: it *was* a moderately catchy little piece if my recollections of hearing it 2 or 3 times are right:- it's just that I thought it "borrowed" so-oo heavily from Wire it was like hearing a 'Baron Nights play Wire' session. The 'template' of the song, minimal, unfussy, instrumentation, and the dead stop/start again bits, and IIRC, a very Colin-esque vocal delivery. Also, didn't it have a sort of "I am the Fly" intro, atonal chromatic guitar figure snaking it's way about at the top of the song? They may *not* have directly filched any specific riffs, phrases or whatever, but the modus operandi of Newman/Lewis/Gilbert/Grey sorta seeped in by osmosis, if you're being charitable. Or, if you don't feel like giving them the benefit of the doubt, they sat in a room, played the first 3 wire abums back to back, and cobbled together their approximation of what they'd heard. Perhaps starting with '...Fly' and 'Lowdown', perhaps? [It *is* a long time since I heard the offending single, so I may be off the mark, there] I'd kinda like to hear it again, sometime, just to see if my initial impressions are still borne out. Did the band ever acknowledge where they'sd sourced their (ahem) 'inspiration' from? IMHO, it'd be cheeky NOT TO......" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 15:29:18 +0000 From: "Derek White" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Fw: Which punk rock god are you - Quizilla >I'm also >(b) Superman and > (c) the X-Men............Hmmmmmmmm,dunno if I like this,too darn 'clean' >an image. darn,back to the drawing board. (Psss, I wanna be a Demon really >)Ari > > >> I was Joey Ramone... I was Joey Ramone, too. We *do* seem to be 10-a-penny.......;-)I was also b) Batman and c) The X-men. , and I too don't know if I care for this overmuch. Batman as I recall, don't seem to have much of a social life, preferring to mope about in his dark, gothic Wayne mansions, livin' with his Auntie (?) and having some sorta 'thing' for Robin he can't quite decide the nature of....;-) I don't think the X-Men got too many party invites, either. When I was a kid, I used to like a DC comic strip called 'The Doom Patrol', if anyone can remember them? I don't think they were around too long, but they had a cool character called Negative man, who I guess was analagous to Marvel's 'Torch' from the 'fantastic 4'? I thought it'd be well useful to be him, apart from the lead-lined bandages......:-) > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 10:57:17 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Fw: Which punk rock god are you - Quizilla In a message dated 3/5/04 9:32:32 AM Central Standard Time, zak_blakk@hotmail.com writes: > When I was a kid, I used to like a DC comic strip called 'The Doom Patrol', > if anyone can remember them? I don't think they were around too long, but > they had a cool character called Negative man, who I guess was analagous to > Marvel's 'Torch' from the 'fantastic 4'? I thought it'd be well useful to > be him, apart from the lead-lined bandages......:-) >>>>> ahh...the Doom Patrol...i have been singing their praises for years (even on this list)..the original Bruno Premiani (sp?) stories were quirky and fun ....then it all ended....later on in the 80's DC tried to revive the heroes by forming a new team around Cliff Steele...this was a boring straight super-hero X-Men copy...BOOOOORING .........but then in the 90's the ever bizarre Grant Morrison started a new Doom Patrol on the DC adult comic line: Vertigo.....it was brilliant!...the team was built around The Chief , Cliff Steele and The Negative Man and most importantly a new character named Crazy Jane....inspired by the true story of multiple personality case: Trudi Chase (if you haven't read the book "When Rabbit Howls" i highly recommend it) with the catch being that each of her 60 or more personalites have super powers....oh yeah, and several of them HATE men... Morrison incorporates all sorts of influences in his writing..such as: Heinrich Hoffman's horrific cautionary children's fables...dangerous Dada art and paintings that threaten to unravel the order in the universe...Maya Deren's film: Meshes of the Afternoon....the apocalypse (as you've never seen it before!)...as well as various STRANGE villians such as a guy who claims to be Jack the Ripper and God at the same time..and he gains his strength from the suffering of thousands of butterflies pinned to his walls, and Vivaldi mixed with freakbeat techno..... my kinda mayhem and fun... PLEASE PLEASE check this book out if you can find back issues....Grant Morrisons run on the book started on issue 19 and ended around 66 i believe...a trade paperback (Crawling From the Wreckage) collects the first few issues of the run... probably one of my favorite comics ever..right up there with Mr. X ...Love & Rockets...V for Vendetta ...Black Hole .... RL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 19:49:02 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] Fw: Piece of paper with David Bowie on it This is for sale on ebay. Now who's name can we write and then sell ; ) This is a high qulaity white sheet of A4 paper (80 gsm) on which I have = written the name 'David Bowie' (all lower case). This is written in red = non-permanent OHP ink. One of a kind - this would be a great purchase = for any Bowie fan. Buyer pays 50p postage (which includes a hard-backed = envelope to avoid any creasing).=20 = http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D3800019370&categor= y=3D53256=20 [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of eBay item 3800019370 (Ends 05-Mar-04 125639 GMT ) - Piece of paper with David Bowie written on it.url] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 15:13:44 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Fw: Piece of paper with David Bowie on it In a message dated 3/5/04 1:56:40 PM Central Standard Time, keith.indoorminer@virgin.net writes: > This is for sale on ebay. Now who's name can we write and then sell ; ) > > > > This is a high qulaity white sheet of A4 paper (80 gsm) on which I have = > written the name 'David Bowie' (all lower case). This is written in red = > non-permanent OHP ink. One of a kind - this would be a great purchase = > for any Bowie fan. Buyer pays 50p postage (which includes a hard-backed = > envelope to avoid any creasing).=20 there is a super-rare limited edition Coil record called the Trauma edition...which apparently has some of Jhon Balance's blood smeared on it... there's an empty goal for you Mr. Bursa .....don't hit it over the bar like Roberto Baggio did in the 1994 World Cup.... RL np - Pram - "Gash" (reminds me of The Slits sort of) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 20:16:18 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Monochromatic=20Man?= Subject: [idealcopy] Re:Piece of paper with David Bowie on it It's gone already. Who was the seller? Was it the same guy who was auctioning off an ass kicking? - --- Keith Astbury wrote: > This is for sale on ebay. Now who's name can we > write and then sell ; ) > > > > This is a high qulaity white sheet of A4 paper (80 > gsm) on which I have = > written the name 'David Bowie' (all lower case). > This is written in red = > non-permanent OHP ink. One of a kind - this would be > a great purchase = > for any Bowie fan. Buyer pays 50p postage (which > includes a hard-backed = > envelope to avoid any creasing).=20 ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 20:17:37 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] Edvard Graham Lewis Don't know if you've come across this site before. There's a Graham top = ten. Particularly like the Dome disclaimer at the end!! 1.. "Blessed State" by Wire, from "154", 1979=20 2.. "Rolling Upon My Day" by Dome, from "Dome 1", 1980=20 3.. "Or So It Seems" by Duet Emmo, from "Or So It Seems", 1983=20 4.. "Pump" by He Said, from "Hail!", 1986=20 5.. "Ambitious" by Wire, from "The Ideal Copy", 1987=20 6.. "Finest Drops" by Wire, from "It's Begining To And Back Again", = 1989=20 7.. "So and Slow it Grows" by Wir, from "The First Letter", 1991=20 8.. "Skip the Sausage" by H.A.L.O., from "Immanent", 1995=20 9.. "Post Code Orange" by He Said Omala, from "Catch Supposes", 1997=20 Warning to the uninitiated! While I believe that the above songs = represent the best of Lewis's work, some of the rest of the music on = these albums is very different. In particular, most of the Wire vocals = are actually done by Colin Newman, and much of the Dome disc is very = experimental and hard to listen to (which does not mean it's bad).=20 http://www.mit.edu/~klund/lewis.html [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of Edvard Graham Lewis.url] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 15:21:29 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Fw: Piece of paper with David Bowie on it this is really funny Keith...there are some weird people in this world who buy some weird stuff ..... a friend of mine once made a killing from selling his used underwear on ebay....he was a tender 22 at the time and he had a nice physique....he got the idea from a rather odd gay friend... yeah, he would wear some of his old underwear (tighty-whiteys or boxer-briefs) and pose provocatively whilst his girlfriend would snap a picture with their digital camera...he'd then post them on ebay and start the bidding at $10.... and sure enough there would be a host of perverts who trip over themselves to bid on them.....and best of all his overhead was low because he could buy 3 packs of underwear for around $ 5 ..... what a world we live in... RL p.s. i hope i didn't give Ari or Bart any funny money-making ideas.... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 20:27:30 -0000 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Fw: Which punk rock god are you - Quizilla With you all the way on Grant Morrison's stint on Doom Patrol, Robert - astonishingly inventive and I've never found anything else by Morrison that is as good (although he is incredibly prolific, so I may have missed something especially in recent years when my comics reading has dropped off). My favourite 'character' was transvestite piece of real estate Danny the Street. It's obvious to UK readers how this came about - Danny La Rue was a famous TV transvestite in the 60s and 70s and no doubt one drunken evening Morrison translated the name into English and let his imagination go - but to then come up with a teleporting set of shops with a penchant for dressing in women's clothing despite being comprised of macho stores such as the Army and Navy... that's close to genius. Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of RLynn9@aol.com Sent: 05 March 2004 15:57 To: idealcopy@smoe.org; zak_blakk@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Fw: Which punk rock god are you - Quizilla In a message dated 3/5/04 9:32:32 AM Central Standard Time, zak_blakk@hotmail.com writes: > When I was a kid, I used to like a DC comic strip called 'The Doom Patrol', > if anyone can remember them? I don't think they were around too long, but > they had a cool character called Negative man, who I guess was analagous to > Marvel's 'Torch' from the 'fantastic 4'? I thought it'd be well useful to > be him, apart from the lead-lined bandages......:-) >>>>> ahh...the Doom Patrol...i have been singing their praises for years (even on this list)..the original Bruno Premiani (sp?) stories were quirky and fun ....then it all ended....later on in the 80's DC tried to revive the heroes by forming a new team around Cliff Steele...this was a boring straight super-hero X-Men copy...BOOOOORING .........but then in the 90's the ever bizarre Grant Morrison started a new Doom Patrol on the DC adult comic line: Vertigo.....it was brilliant!...the team was built around The Chief , Cliff Steele and The Negative Man and most importantly a new character named Crazy Jane....inspired by the true story of multiple personality case: Trudi Chase (if you haven't read the book "When Rabbit Howls" i highly recommend it) with the catch being that each of her 60 or more personalites have super powers....oh yeah, and several of them HATE men... Morrison incorporates all sorts of influences in his writing..such as: Heinrich Hoffman's horrific cautionary children's fables...dangerous Dada art and paintings that threaten to unravel the order in the universe...Maya Deren's film: Meshes of the Afternoon....the apocalypse (as you've never seen it before!)...as well as various STRANGE villians such as a guy who claims to be Jack the Ripper and God at the same time..and he gains his strength from the suffering of thousands of butterflies pinned to his walls, and Vivaldi mixed with freakbeat techno..... my kinda mayhem and fun... PLEASE PLEASE check this book out if you can find back issues....Grant Morrisons run on the book started on issue 19 and ended around 66 i believe...a trade paperback (Crawling From the Wreckage) collects the first few issues of the run... probably one of my favorite comics ever..right up there with Mr. X ...Love & Rockets...V for Vendetta ...Black Hole .... RL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 15:39:43 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Fw: Piece of paper with David Bowie on it > This is for sale on ebay. Now who's name can we write and then sell ; ) Someone has actually bought this. Genius. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 15:41:30 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Fw: Piece of paper with David Bowie on it > there is a super-rare limited edition Coil record called the Trauma > edition...which apparently has some of Jhon Balance's blood smeared on it... > > there's an empty goal for you Mr. Bursa .....don't hit it over the bar like > Roberto Baggio did in the 1994 World Cup.... > Are you sure it's blood? Dried blood does assume a brownish hue. Suppose you could try sniffing it before you buy. That do you? M ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 15:49:22 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Fw: Piece of paper with David Bowie on it In a message dated 3/5/04 2:41:30 PM Central Standard Time, Mark Bursa writes: > Are you sure it's blood? Dried blood does assume a brownish hue. > > Suppose you could try sniffing it before you buy. > > That do you? > > M ;-) LOL ! very nice Mr. Bursa! this is the reason you wear the captain's arm band.... however, you much surely have enough faith in my skills to know that i would never fall for such a move....that is like getting beat by a well-worn step over and nudge the ball to your strong foot type move.... my money is spent elsewhere....like women's underwear on ebay... if Catherine Zeta Jones would only listen to me... RL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 16:44:41 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Fwd: [mute] This Week at Mute (w/c 01/03/04) In a message dated 05/03/2004 11:43:07 GMT Standard Time, news@mute.info writes: > > * Goldfrapp - "Black Cherry" > CD, LCD, DVD - CD/LCD/DVDMUTE320 > > "Black Cherry is backed with an exclusive new Goldfrapp track, Gone To > Earth. The limited CD features a great remix of the single by French electronic > duo M83, which takes the heartbroken beauty of the original into an even more > desolate place, plus Kurtis Mantronik's Twist and Vac Mix of Twist and videos > of Black Cherry live and the animated video for Twist. The DVD includes > Utopia, live at Somerset House, the video for Strict Machine plus Lawrence's remix > of the single and Tom Middleton's Cosmos Acid Dub mix of Utopia..." > ////the felt/goldfrapp collaboration we'd all been waiting for :-) p Return-Path: Received: from rly-xn05.mx.aol.com (rly-xn05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.138]) by air-xn04.mail.aol.com (v98.10) with ESMTP id MAILINXN42-64e404867b2284; Fri, 05 Mar 2004 06:43:07 -0500 Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by rly-xn05.mx.aol.com (v98.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXN54-64e404867b2284; Fri, 05 Mar 2004 06:42:42 -0500 Received: from mailgate.mutelibtech.com ([194.70.81.160] helo=[194.70.81.250]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1AzDiw-000JTR-0X; Fri, 05 Mar 2004 11:42:38 +0000 Received: from [81.132.90.163] by mailgate.mutelibtech.com with SMTP (QuickMail Pro Server for Mac 2.1); 05-Mar-2004 11:38:45 +0100 Date: 02 Mar 2004 17:00:36 +0000 Message-ID: <1013607977news@mute.info> From: Mute News Subject: [mute] This Week at Mute (w/c 01/03/04) To: Mute Mailing List X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 2.1 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Mute News Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-AOL-IP: 194.217.242.91 Hello Out this week: SINGLE * Goldfrapp - "Black Cherry" CD, LCD, DVD - CD/LCD/DVDMUTE320 "Black Cherry is backed with an exclusive new Goldfrapp track, Gone To Earth. The limited CD features a great remix of the single by French electronic duo M83, which takes the heartbroken beauty of the original into an even more desolate place, plus Kurtis Mantronik's Twist and Vac Mix of Twist and videos of Black Cherry live and the animated video for Twist. The DVD includes Utopia, live at Somerset House, the video for Strict Machine plus Lawrence's remix of the single and Tom Middleton's Cosmos Acid Dub mix of Utopia..." More: http://www.mute.com/goldfrapp/ http://www.goldfrapp.co.uk DVD * Dave Gahan - "Live Monsters" DVD - DVDSTUMM216 "Filmed at the Olympia in Paris during 'The Paper Monsters' tour, 'Live Monsters' captures all the energy of Gahan's electric live performances in addition to exclusive DVD extras that include 'Live Monsters-A Short Film', with interviews of Gahan and the band, plus a new acoustic version of 'Dirty Sticky Floors'..." Continues at: http://www.mute.com/davegahan/livemonsters.html http://livemonsters.davegahan.com Happening this week: * Cutlass Supreme DJs in London * Einst|rzende Neubauten play live in Europe (Leipzig, Zagreb, Bologna, Rome, Winterthur) * Richie Hawtin DJs in Miami, USA * Kaito play live in North America (Denver, Lawrence, Columbia, Chicago, Cleveland) * Laibach play live in Sofia, Bulgaria * Miss Kittin DJs in Germany & the US (Berlin, Miami) * Paul van Dyk (on Mute in North America) DJs in Miami * Tim Wright plays live in York, UK - - Total Rock Radio will broadcast a special Liars feature and competion on 'Mad Maz' on Thursday 4th March. The show is on air between 18.00-21.00 (UK time) on digital radio on online at www.totalrock.com Live News: - - Mute will host a series of events at this year's Triptych festival, bringing together a diverse selection of artists representing Mute, novamute, Blast First and The Grey Area More: http://www.mute.com/mute/news/triptych04.html Forthcoming live dates for all artists can be found at http://www.mute.com/mute/news/tour.htm Forthcoming releases: UK: Mon 22 Mar - Mountaineers : I Gotta Sing Mon 22 Mar - Pink Grease : Fever Mon 29 Mar - Throbbing Gristle : Mutant TG (novamute) Mon 29 Mar - Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds : The Videos DVD NORTH AMERICA: CHANGE Tue 06 Apr - Throbbing Gristle : Mutant TG Cheers! Janet Mute, London http://www.mute.com Questions: info@mutehq.co.uk Mute Bank mail order: http://www.mutebank.co.uk | info@mutebank.co.uk You've been sent this mail because you're currently signed up for our weekly newsletter Unsubscribe / changes http://www.mute.com/mute/mlt/mailing.htm#Changes ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 21:46:04 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] The Veils I think I mentioned a couple of weeks back that I'd heard one of The = Veils was the son of a member of XTC. Well it transpires that there's a Finn Andrews on gtr, and yes it would = appear that he is the son of ex-XTC member and Shriekback founder Barry. = I'm not sure which one is Finn though, as all four members seem to have = a full head of hair. http://thestereoeffect.com/artist/display_artist.php?ArtistId=3D231 Keith np Malka Spigel - hide [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of The Veils.url] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 21:51:34 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] Spears and Hooks Just received the following email... "I don't think she quite deserves the iconic level she has somehow already been granted (a handful of decent singles / good-but-not-great looks / "limited" acting talents, to say the least), but, it's obvious that Britney's new single, Toxic, is absolutely ace. Definitely her best since Slave 4U, and featuring quite possibly, the best Pete Hook bassline since Regret. Another winner from the pen of Cathy Dennis". Best Pete Hook bassline since Regret? BRITNEY? Really??? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 21:55:18 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy]...WIRE ripoffs > > > The *ENTIRETY* of that bloody Menswear single > > >I'm probably in a minority here, but I liked Daydreamer (and Being Brave > >for that matter). > > Or, if you don't feel like giving them the benefit of the doubt, they sat in > a room, played the first 3 wire abums back to back, and cobbled together > their approximation of what they'd heard. Perhaps starting with '...Fly' and > 'Lowdown', perhaps? [It *is* a long time since I heard the offending single, > so I may be off the mark, there] No, you're not off the mark at all! > >(and Being Brave for that matter). > /// I don't think I know that one... Nothing like Wire that one. More like some 60's pop record that Morrissey would adore. Keith ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 23:55:25 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Fw: Piece of paper with David Bowie on it > this is really funny Keith...there are some weird people in this world who > buy some weird stuff ..... a friend of mine once made a killing from selling > his > used underwear on ebay....he was a tender 22 at the time and he had a nice > physique....he got the idea from a rather odd gay friend... > > yeah, he would wear some of his old underwear (tighty-whiteys or > boxer-briefs) and pose provocatively whilst his girlfriend would snap a > picture with their > digital camera...he'd then post them on ebay and start the bidding at $10.... > > and sure enough there would be a host of perverts who trip over themselves to > bid on them.....and best of all his overhead was low because he could buy 3 > packs of underwear for around $ 5 ..... > > what a world we live in... > > RL > p.s. i hope i didn't give Ari or Bart any funny money-making ideas.... Making money is a serious business young man, even if that means having no undies left after a couple of overzealous ebay-nights. Bart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 00:03:40 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Franz Ferdinand > Yeah, but I've been told that UK/US bands always whack the volume up too > high at the Paradiso, thereby compounding the problems caused by the already > dodgy acoustics. I think I may have mentioned witnessing My Bloody Valentine ruining a perfect double bill with Curve in Paradiso by blowing the entire PA by sheer volume. Still buzzes in my eardrum! > Have a good time but don't forget your earplugs! Come again? ;-) Bart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 23:35:30 +0000 From: "Jason Rogers" Subject: [idealcopy] RE: idealcopy-digest V7 #66 >Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 23:09:09 -0600 >From: "dan bailey" >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] johnny rotten......... > >ah, but jason's is rather more pronounced than mine (or so it sounded to my >ears the 3 or so times we've met at gigs). i've been accused more than once >of not having a southern accent at all, but i seriously doubt the accuracy >of that assessment. > >pass the grits, y'all ... > >dan Yep. I have quite the Southern drawl. Both of my parents grew up in L.A. (Lower Alabama) and my years spent there and in Georgia shows. Jason _________________________________________________________________ Fast. Reliable. Get MSN 9 Dial-up - 3 months for the price of 1! (Limited-time Offer) http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 07:11:04 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] RE: idealcopy-digest V7 #66 >>Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 23:09:09 -0600 >>From: "dan bailey" >>Subject: Re: [idealcopy] johnny rotten......... >> >>ah, but jason's is rather more pronounced than mine (or so it sounded to my >>ears the 3 or so times we've met at gigs). i've been accused more than once >>of not having a southern accent at all, but i seriously doubt the accuracy >>of that assessment. >> >>pass the grits, y'all ... >> >>dan > >Yep. I have quite the Southern drawl. Both of my parents grew up in >L.A. (Lower Alabama) and my years spent there and in Georgia shows. > > >Jason as opposed to my upbringing in cosmopolitan southwest arkansas, aided & abetted by the fact that my mother came from posh eastern oklahoma & my dad from outside that blueblood enclave known as shreveport, la. dan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 02:46:48 +0000 From: "kenny sanderson" Subject: [idealcopy] OT.. Pere Ubu after years of interest i finally remembered to buy myself a copy of "The Modern Dance" it really is fantastic...I know now that I will have to buy everything they put out..just wondering if there were any enthusiasts on this list to tell where to go next.."Dub Housing" seems the obvious choice... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 02:49:04 -0000 From: "Tim" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Spears and Hooks > "I don't think she quite deserves the iconic level she has somehow already > been granted (a handful of decent singles / good-but-not-great looks / > "limited" acting talents, to say the least), but, it's obvious that Britney's > new single, Toxic, is absolutely ace. Definitely her best since Slave 4U, and > featuring quite possibly, the best Pete Hook bassline since Regret. > > Another winner from the pen of Cathy Dennis". > > Best Pete Hook bassline since Regret? BRITNEY? Really??? She doesn't put any lead in my pencil. Britney looks like an archetypal teenage mum off a council estate in South Shields. (well if she bought her rings from Argos she would). Haven't heard the new single, but if it really does have "the best Peter Hook Bassline since Regret" then I hope Paul Morley doesn't get to hear it as if he did.....his exploding gonads would probably cause a tidal wave of semen which would engulf the entire Greater Manchester district, drowning me and my family and close friends. what a way to go. Its probably nowhere near as exciting as it supposed to be. Hopefully, someone will do a bootleg mix of it with a Franz Ferdinand track and get Peter Andre to rap over it. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 13:35:15 +0800 From: "Tim ****" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] OT.. Pere Ubu Go Pere Ubu crazy ;) & get the Datapanik Box Set (Remastered, corrected speed & only a couple of things missing of essential Ubu) Now to find the Real World... Tim - ----Original Message Follows---- From: "kenny sanderson" To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: [idealcopy] OT.. Pere Ubu Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 02:46:48 +0000 after years of interest i finally remembered to buy myself a copy of "The Modern Dance" it really is fantastic...I know now that I will have to buy everything they put out..just wondering if there were any enthusiasts on this list to tell where to go next.."Dub Housing" seems the obvious choice... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* _________________________________________________________________ Protect your inbox from harmful viruses with new ninemsn Premium. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.asp?banner=emailtag&referrer=hotmail ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 01:06:44 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] johnny... rotten accents In a message dated 3/5/04 9:21:08 AM, RLynn9@aol.com writes: > >i much prefer the charm of a southern accent over a new jersey/new york > >accent anyday....ugh...meeting a woman with a ny/nj accent is such a turn-off >.... so a menage a trois with fran drescher and cindy lauper is out? - -another the paul :o) ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V7 #67 ******************************