From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V7 #49 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Tuesday, February 17 2004 Volume 07 : Number 049 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Voting [Wireviews ] RE: [idealcopy] Voting ["Clements, Bruno - BUP" ] [idealcopy] Voting [Wireviews ] RE: [idealcopy] Voting ["Clements, Bruno - BUP" ] Re: [idealcopy] Voting ["Keith Astbury" ] Re: [idealcopy] Voting [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Voting [Andrew Walkingshaw ] [idealcopy] Mr. Robert Lynn..............Please stand up..... [Ari Britt ] Re: [idealcopy] Mr. Robert Lynn..............Please stand up..... [RLynn9] Re: [idealcopy] Mr. Robert Lynn..............Please stand up..... [PaulRa] Re: [idealcopy] Mr. Robert Lynn..............Please stand up..... [RLynn9] [idealcopy] Manscape mix [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Mr. Robert Lynn..............Please stand up..... [PaulRa] Re: [idealcopy] Mr. Robert Lynn..............Please stand up..... [RLynn9] Re: [idealcopy] Mr. Robert Lynn..............Please stand up..... ["Keit] Re: [idealcopy] Mr. Robert Lynn..............Please stand up..... ["Keit] Re: [idealcopy] Mr. Robert Lynn..............Please stand up..... [MarkBu] Re: [idealcopy] Mr. Robert Lynn..............Please stand up..... [Ari B] Re: [idealcopy] Mr. Robert Lynn..............Please stand up..... [RLynn9] Re: [idealcopy] Mr. Robert Lynn..............Please stand up..... [RLynn] Re: [idealcopy] Mr. Robert Lynn..............Please stand up..... [RLynn] Re: [idealcopy] Mr. Robert Lynn..............Please stand up..... [PaulR] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 04:28:54 -0800 (PST) From: Wireviews Subject: [idealcopy] Voting Ari said: > Don't keep us in suspense Craig, tell us........ > what's your Wire top 12 ? Like anyone, my preferred tracks by any act tend to change over time (and are sometimes influenced by nostalgia), but here are a bunch of Wire tracks that I'm currently enjoying (15, rather than 12): Mannequin (Pink Flag) Outdoor Miner, Used to (Chairs Missing) A Mutual Friend, Map Ref (154) Ahead (The Ideal Copy) Madman's Honey (Coatings) Silk Skin Paws, Queen of Ur... (A Bell is a Cup...) In Every City? (Drill) So and Slow it Grows, Take it (LFO mix) (So and Slow it Grows EP) Another the Letter (It's All in the Brochure) 99.9 (Read & Burn 02) Mr Marx's Table (Send) Of course, if Wire-related stuff have to be taken into account, there are many more tracks... :) Craig ===== - ------- Craig Grannell / Wireviews --- http://www.wireviews.com News, reviews and dugga. VMU: http://www.vmuonline.com SVA: http://www.snubcommunications.com - -------------- wireviews@yahoo.com --- __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 12:35:34 -0000 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Voting Craig: Do you keep track of the number of voters and is the list updated often? Bruno - -----Original Message----- From: Wireviews [mailto:wireviews@yahoo.com] Sent: 16 February 2004 12:29 To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: [idealcopy] Voting Ari said: > Don't keep us in suspense Craig, tell us........ > what's your Wire top 12 ? Like anyone, my preferred tracks by any act tend to change over time (and are sometimes influenced by nostalgia), but here are a bunch of Wire tracks that I'm currently enjoying (15, rather than 12): Mannequin (Pink Flag) Outdoor Miner, Used to (Chairs Missing) A Mutual Friend, Map Ref (154) Ahead (The Ideal Copy) Madman's Honey (Coatings) Silk Skin Paws, Queen of Ur... (A Bell is a Cup...) In Every City? (Drill) So and Slow it Grows, Take it (LFO mix) (So and Slow it Grows EP) Another the Letter (It's All in the Brochure) 99.9 (Read & Burn 02) Mr Marx's Table (Send) Of course, if Wire-related stuff have to be taken into account, there are many more tracks... :) Craig ===== - ------- Craig Grannell / Wireviews --- http://www.wireviews.com News, reviews and dugga. VMU: http://www.vmuonline.com SVA: http://www.snubcommunications.com - -------------- wireviews@yahoo.com --- __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 06:13:32 -0800 (PST) From: Wireviews Subject: [idealcopy] Voting Bruno wrote: > Craig: Do you keep track of the number of voters and > is the list updated often? If I get a list sent to me prior to dealing with an update, it'll go online then. Typically, the list is never more than a month or two out of date, as compared to what I've been sent. However, over the last year, I've received very few lists, hence the small changes. Also, certain tracks have an almost unassailable lead, and new tracks (Read & Burn and Send ones) aren't even registering as yet, because they haven't picked up nearly enough votes. As for keeping track of the number of voters, I don't do that; however, there have probably been around 100. Craig ===== - ------- Craig Grannell / Wireviews --- http://www.wireviews.com News, reviews and dugga. VMU: http://www.vmuonline.com SVA: http://www.snubcommunications.com - -------------- wireviews@yahoo.com --- __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 18:06:24 -0000 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Voting Thanks Craig That puts it in perspective. Only the other month we were all discussing the Julian Cope website's best-ever 100 albums list... It turned out to have been compiled from the votes of about 18 people! Perhaps there's a case for a new chart, after the summer gigs/festivals, when a few more people have got round to buying and loving Send. Bruno - -----Original Message----- From: Wireviews [mailto:wireviews@yahoo.com] Sent: 16 February 2004 14:14 To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: [idealcopy] Voting Bruno wrote: > Craig: Do you keep track of the number of voters and > is the list updated often? If I get a list sent to me prior to dealing with an update, it'll go online then. Typically, the list is never more than a month or two out of date, as compared to what I've been sent. However, over the last year, I've received very few lists, hence the small changes. Also, certain tracks have an almost unassailable lead, and new tracks (Read & Burn and Send ones) aren't even registering as yet, because they haven't picked up nearly enough votes. As for keeping track of the number of voters, I don't do that; however, there have probably been around 100. Craig ===== - ------- Craig Grannell / Wireviews --- http://www.wireviews.com News, reviews and dugga. VMU: http://www.vmuonline.com SVA: http://www.snubcommunications.com - -------------- wireviews@yahoo.com --- __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 18:48:49 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Voting > So and Slow it Grows, Take it (LFO mix) (So and Slow > it Grows EP) Yeah!! Great e.p. I love the way instrumental version of So & Slow...comes in after the single version. > Another the Letter (It's All in the Brochure) I've always loved ATL - it's such a mad little track. And I really like the funny little version on Behind the Curtain. Creases me up. Incidentally there were about 50 or 60 people who voted on the Cope website and not 18 ; ) K. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 13:49:24 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Voting In a message dated 2/16/04 12:42:58 PM Central Standard Time, keith.indoorminer@virgin.net writes: > > So and Slow it Grows, Take it (LFO mix) (So and Slow > > it Grows EP) > > Yeah!! Great e.p. I love the way instrumental version of So & Slow...comes > in after the single version. if anyone out there needs this little gem of a cd single, let me know...i know where to get one... RL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 18:51:05 +0000 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Voting On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 06:48:49PM -0000, Keith Astbury wrote: > > So and Slow it Grows, Take it (LFO mix) (So and Slow > > it Grows EP) > > Yeah!! Great e.p. I love the way instrumental version of So & Slow...comes > in after the single version. My current favourites from the little bit of the Wirespace I have access to: Pink Flag, in nearly any of its incarnations; Reuters and the Agfers of Kodack (which, to me, feels like Reuters II to a greater or lesser extent); Mr. Marx's Table; Spent (particularly the Louder, Faster mix on the Buddyhead comp); 99.9; Map Ref; A Mutual Friend; Being Sucked In Again; Mercy; Dot Dash; A Serious of Snakes; Ahead... ... but it's not like Wire, as a band, have committed much I don't like to tape. Ask me next week and I'd give you different answers. - - Andrew (currently listening to Electrelane - "The Power Out") - -- home - email: andrew@lexical.org.uk http://www.lexical.org.uk/ work - email: adw27@esc.cam.ac.uk http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ radio: http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ http://www.lexical.org.uk/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 13:03:37 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] Mr. Robert Lynn..............Please stand up..... Happy Birthday Robert,don't get too drunk,hope ya get laid.Ari Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 16:23:17 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Mr. Robert Lynn..............Please stand up..... In a message dated 2/16/04 3:07:47 PM Central Standard Time, threeduggaduggas@yahoo.com writes: > Happy Birthday Robert,don't get too drunk,hope ya get laid.Ari well thank you Ari....but i don't seem to indulge in either of those pleasures these days.. RL p.s. Jhon Balance of Coil and i share the same birthday! how cool is that Mark? np - Saint Etienne - The Sound of Water ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 16:30:43 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Mr. Robert Lynn..............Please stand up..... In a message dated 16/02/2004 21:27:34 GMT Standard Time, RLynn9@aol.com writes: > Jhon Balance of Coil and i share the same birthday! how cool is that > Mark? > ////is that a typo or is he really spelling his name that way these days? i'm getting ideas here............ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 16:41:50 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Mr. Robert Lynn..............Please stand up..... In a message dated 2/16/04 3:30:43 PM Central Standard Time, PaulRabjohn writes: > << Jhon Balance of Coil and i share the same birthday! how cool is that > Mark? > >> > > > ////is that a typo or is he really spelling his name that way these days? i' > m getting ideas here............ yes...but i think he always spelled it that way...but then again he has several names : Ossian Brown...Rufus...Geoff Rushton .... sadly, Coil are dormant right now...Peter "Sleazy" Christopherson is living in Thailand for a while and Jhon is on another plane of existance right now (or so i've read)...at least we still have great releases by Mount Vernon Astral Temple, Cyclobe, COH, and Thighpaulsandra to keep fans busy...(i am smiling ear to ear right now...just waiting to see Mr. Bursa's quips...or as we say on IC: Bursacrap) RL p.s. speaking of Thighpaulsandra, anyone out there have a copy of QE2: Queen Elizabeth Vagina double cd that they want to sell or trade something for? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 16:51:48 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Manscape mix i am almost positive that the mix of Life in the Manscape differs on the UK and USA issues....i just picked up the UK version in a local bargain bin and i'm listening to it now....won't be able to check for sure until i get home... anyone else ever notice this? RL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 16:52:03 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Mr. Robert Lynn..............Please stand up..... In a message dated 16/02/2004 21:43:48 GMT Standard Time, RLynn9@aol.com writes: > yes...but i think he always spelled it that way...but then again he has > several names : Ossian Brown...Rufus...Geoff Rushton .... > sadly, Coil are dormant right now...Peter "Sleazy" Christopherson is living > in Thailand for a while and Jhon is on another plane of existance right now > (or > so i've read)...at least we still have great releases by Mount Vernon Astral > > Temple, Cyclobe, COH, and Thighpaulsandra to keep fans busy...(i am smiling > ear to ear right now...just waiting to see Mr. Bursa's quips...or as we say > on > IC: Bursacrap) > > RL > p.s. speaking of Thighpaulsandra, anyone out there have a copy of QE2: Queen > > Elizabeth Vagina double cd that they want to sell or trade something for? > ////////robert , just how many comedy open goals can you present us with in such short a time ;-) p ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 17:00:30 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Mr. Robert Lynn..............Please stand up..... In a message dated 2/16/04 3:52:03 PM Central Standard Time, PaulRabjohn writes: > ////////robert , just how many comedy open goals can you present us with in > such short a time ;-) p well that depends if you consider yourself Arsenal or Wolverhampton in the wittisism premiership.... please keep in mind that Thighpaulsandra is an immensely talented young man...besides being a musical prodigy (and synth wiz) and releasing his own music, he is also a full-time member of both Coil and Spiritualized .....as well as a frequent collaborator of Julian Cope... RL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:02:37 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Mr. Robert Lynn..............Please stand up..... > > Jhon Balance of Coil and i share the same birthday! how cool is that > > Mark? > > > > ////is that a typo or is he really spelling his name that way these days? i'm > getting ideas here............ Didn't the music journalist spell his name Jonh Wilde? btw did anyone else notice that the letter in yesterdays Observer sports pages by the American who had lived here 30 years and who was a QPR supporter was a Joe Boyd, London!! Warmed me cockles no end to think that the man who had such a huge role in the career of one of my fave singers (Nick Drake), will at some point have watched Karl Connelly (my fave Wxm player of the 90's, who left us for Loftus Road). And Happy Birthday, Robert. Keith np Low - Secret Name ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 23:41:30 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Mr. Robert Lynn..............Please stand up..... > please keep in mind that Thighpaulsandra is an immensely talented young > man...besides being a musical prodigy (and synth wiz) and releasing his own music, > he is also a full-time member of both Coil and Spiritualized .....as well as a > frequent collaborator of Julian Cope... > > RL Yeah, he was in JC's touring band in the mid-90's, sporting a very silly haircut and making some very decent squelchy noises on his synth. This from Julians Head Heritage site... http://www.headheritage.co.uk/merchandiser/ "Back by popular demand! Re-issued again after almost five years, QE2 is the huge double-CD which appeared only briefly on the Head Heritage catalogue before disappearing into oblivion. Being a collaboration between Thighpaulsandra and Julian Cope, the record is crammed full of extremely beautiful sounds; achieved through the use of Mellotrons, Moogs, ARP synthesizers and large amounts of percussion. On its release in '97, this huge album was described by Julian as "Cumulus-sized zeppelins powered by moped engines." It is fair to say that time disappears when QE2 enters the room." Haven't played it in a long time, but I seem to recall liking the 1st QE cd from a few years previous. Again I quote... "Released on Prince Charles' birthday, this first album from November 1994CE caused a big split in press opinion. The Wire praised it loudly, whilst NME called it 'execrable'. Nevertheless, the Real Heads bought it in droves just for its two huge 30-minute pieces of environmental ambience and sleeve, which features Thighpaulsandra flying through deep space on an ARP synthesiser." It is indeed a great cover. Had it as a screen save at one point, but I think the ambinet drones were getting on everyone elses nerves! Keith PS Funny you should pick Arsenal and Wolves. One is the team that Mr Rabjohn supports, the other is - I would estimate - his nearest premiership team? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 18:35:57 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Mr. Robert Lynn..............Please stand up..... > ...just waiting to see Mr. Bursa's quips...or as we say on > IC: Bursacrap) > No no no no no no no no. My quips are not Bursacrap. My quips are the truth that's too painful to bear. Bursacrap is something else altogether, and related to the wearing of anoraks. Bursa's crap is again a different matter, especially after last night's curry ;-) This could have special appeal to Jhon and his chums. It would depend upon their self-esteem level. Not that I know about this, of course. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 16:35:52 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Mr. Robert Lynn..............Please stand up..... MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: > ...just waiting to see Mr. Bursa's quips...or as we say on > IC: Bursacrap) > No no no no no no no no. My quips are not Bursacrap. My quips are the truth that's too painful to bear. Bursacrap is something else altogether, and related to the wearing of anoraks. Bursa's crap is again a different matter, especially after last night's curry ;-) This could have special appeal to Jhon and his chums. It would depend upon their self-esteem level. Not that I know about this, of course. Mark You could always polish it and use it for earings...........I can see the ads. now''For the Punk of TODAY!' Bursa crap earings,feel the warm soggy thrill of these exquisite works of fart clinging to you ears,Ideal wear for Turdsdays. call 1-800-ear-ache now. (sorry guys,couldn't resist,you know me) Ari Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:12:47 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Mr. Robert Lynn..............Please stand up..... In a message dated 2/16/04 5:35:57 PM Central Standard Time, Mark Bursa writes: > Bursa's crap is again a different matter, especially after last night's > curry ;-) This could have special appeal to Jhon and his chums. It would depend > upon their self-esteem level. Not that I know about this, of course. > > Mark YOU are a true champion.....that is the Mark Bursa that i know and love...sharp as a tack that one... thank you for giving me the gift of laughter RL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:11:05 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Mr. Robert Lynn..............Please stand up..... In a message dated 2/16/04 5:33:45 PM Central Standard Time, keith.indoorminer@virgin.net writes: > the Real Heads bought it in droves just > for its two huge 30-minute pieces of environmental ambience and sleeve, > which features Thighpaulsandra flying through deep space on an ARP > synthesiser." > > It is indeed a great cover. Had it as a screen save at one point, but I > think the ambinet drones were getting on everyone elses nerves! > > Keith > > it all ties in....you see, that pose is lifted from a supremely cosmic Silver Surfer comic!...and ambient drones NEVER get old in my book....slows down time... RL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:20:04 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Mr. Robert Lynn..............Please stand up..... In a message dated 2/16/04 6:38:59 PM Central Standard Time, threeduggaduggas@yahoo.com writes: > You could always polish it and use it for earings...........I can see the > ads. now''For the Punk of TODAY!' Bursa crap earings,feel the warm soggy > thrill of these exquisite works of fart clinging to you ears,Ideal wear for > Turdsdays. > > call 1-800-ear-ache now. > > (sorry guys,couldn't resist,you know me) Ari > and THIS would be Ari-crap lol RL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 04:13:32 -0500 From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Mr. Robert Lynn..............Please stand up..... In a message dated 2/16/2004 6:41:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, keith.indoorminer@virgin.net writes: > PS Funny you should pick Arsenal and Wolves. One is the team that Mr Rabjohn > supports, the other is - I would estimate - his nearest > premiership team? ////ah , true indeed. i am surrounded by wolves fans around here , all a bit sheepish at present. i think they last beat us when i was at school so plenty of comic mileage in all this. trust everyone enjoyed the chelsea game :-) p ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V7 #49 ******************************