From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V7 #42 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Wednesday, February 11 2004 Volume 07 : Number 042 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] kiosk ["Keith" ] Re: [idealcopy] university challenge [Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: [idealcopy] kiosk Noise of the Month for February is Stratospheric by Kiosk - featuring = Julian Cope right hand man Donald Ross Skinner, his brother Gavin = Skinner and the luscious vocals of Krissie.=20 Click onto Noise of the Month and follow the Kiosk links. A bit = longwinded, but the track is a great throwaway thrashy pop number in a = Stooges with girl singer sort of way.=20 Like it a lot. Keith http://www.noiseweb.co.uk/ [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of www.noiseweb.co.url] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 11:05:49 +0000 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] university challenge On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 09:28:15PM -0000, Keith wrote: (as did many others: thanks to you all!) > Congrats to the boy Walkingshaw for another victory on TV's > University Challenge. They clawed their way back after a very > sluggish start, and after a close match looked on the cards, their > aging opponesnts tired and the Jesus College proceeded to romp away > to victory!! More like "as the drugs Sam" (the one with the afro) "took to combat his flu and headache kicked in"... > > Time to brush up your knowledge of the blues, mind Andrew ; ) > Indeed. I am suitably chastened. Thank you all for watching. I hope it was a pleasant enough half-hour's diversion :) Albums of the moment: the Franz Ferdinand debut - the live disc with it is a lot more than a gimmick, it's a legit (and rather good) live album - and equally, Electrelane's "The Power Out". - - Andrew - -- home - email: andrew@lexical.org.uk http://www.lexical.org.uk/ work - email: adw27@esc.cam.ac.uk http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ radio: http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ http://www.lexical.org.uk/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 16:26:22 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Monochromatic=20Man?= Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Manscape remix I would love to hear something done with this. Manscape is a great album, but always sounded a little murky. --- "Clements, Bruno - BUP" wrote: > ---The following quote from Colin is VERY > interesting! > > Manscape is generally regarded as the least > accessible of Wire's albums. > Actually it's just appallingly mixed. There is > definitely a project under > discussion to re-appraise this material from the > original masters and see if > it can be rescued. > > >>>This would be a win-win situation for fans - > Colin can hardly make things > worse on Manscape than they are at the moment! Even > if he did, the original > album would still exist. Let's hope he has some joy > with it once the Wire > tour and R&B 03 are sorted. > > Bruno > > > ********************************************************************** > This email and any files transmitted with it are > confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or > entity to whom they > are addressed. 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Even if he did, the original album would still exist. Let's hope he has some joy with it once the Wire tour and R&B 03 are sorted. >> I don't agree. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 18:50:03 EST From: HowardJSpencer@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Life in the Manscape?/Es Devlin << Manscape is generally regarded as the least accessible of Wire's albums. Actually it's just appallingly mixed. There is definitely a project under discussion to re-appraise this material from the original masters and see if it can be rescued. >>>This would be a win-win situation for fans - Colin can hardly make things worse on Manscape than they are at the moment! Even if he did, the original album would still exist. Let's hope he has some joy with it once the Wire tour and R&B 03 are sorted. >> Sorry, last post came over a bit more minimally combative than I'd intended owing to brushing return. Anyway, I don't agree, having always been a fan of Manscape. I can't say I wouldn't be curious about hearing what Colin would do with it, but you can't reheat a souffle, eh? - and I would far rather they just pressed on and did new stuff. I don't think Manscape is appallingly mixed either FWIW. It is just a product of its time, and that sound happens to be unfashionable now. Like Victorian architecture in the 1930s. Give it another five years. Just saw a play for which Es Devlin (as in Wire @Barbican) did the stage design. It's called the Holy Terror and unfortunately it's sub Alan Ayckbourn polite middle class middle aged drama dressed up as something a bit daring and controversial. Don't bother - design not anything very special ither. Congrats to Andrew on Quarter final glory. I thought the fresh faced young team captain was pretty cute in a Jonny Wilkinson sort of way, again FWIW, and risking a visit from vice squad. Howard ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 23:59:38 +0000 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: [idealcopy] OT: Extra Pixies dates! I won't be going for tickets for this, but tickets for 4th/5th June at Brixton go on sale 9am tomorrow. Best of luck, everyone, hope you see this in time... - - Andrew (all else fails, I *may* have spares which I wouldn't want anything over face + postage costs for - not sure yet. Depends on some peoples' exam timetables, actually - I bought tickets on the behalf of people who aren't certain whether they can come along...) - -- Earth Sciences, University of Cambridge http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ Head of Programming, CUR1350 http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ personal email: andrew@lexical.org.uk "... plucking hours from the sky" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 01:58:07 -0000 From: "Tim" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Life in the Manscape?/Es Devlin > I don't think Manscape is appallingly mixed either FWIW. It is just a > product of its time, and that sound happens to be unfashionable now. Like Victorian > architecture in the 1930s. Give it another five years. > But it never was fashionable was it? It sounded like a substandard Wire LP in 1990 and it sounds like a substandard Wire LP now. Yes its full of dated synth sounds and thin, processed drum tracks.... although that period mid-late 80s sound is probably due a comeback soon. (It is amazing what you can do with the software version of the Yamaha DX7 given access to all its hidden parameters.) Problem with Manscape isn't the mix. Its got no decent riffs on it...the guitars meander around where they should chop and slice. The songs are unfocussed and unmemorable. Its a complete shambles. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 21:29:54 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Life in the Manscape?/Es Devlin In a message dated 2/10/04 8:08:24 PM Central Standard Time, tim@kidsindestructible.com writes: > But it never was fashionable was it? It sounded like a substandard Wire LP > in 1990 and it sounds like a substandard Wire LP now. > Yes its full of dated synth sounds and thin, processed drum tracks.... > you say that as if it were a bad thing.... i love Manscape just the way it is.. RL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 00:09:45 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Extra Pixies dates! In a message dated 2/10/04 7:01:45 PM, andrew-wire@lexical.org.uk writes: >Depends on some peoples' exam >timetables, actually - I bought tickets on the behalf of people who aren't >certain whether they can come along...) ha, that was me about 20 years ago...not going to several gigs because they were on school nights and guess how i feel about those choices now! some of the gigs i passed up for a good night's sleep: our boys twice! '87 and '88 (finally got my chance in 2000) saw the bats in '88, but left before bailter space took the stage. doh! on a similar note, went to see grant lee buffalo in '94 and left before american music club played their set band of susans, around 1987 (and never saw them. i know, pathetic for a new yorker, but that's another story) virgin prunes, right here on long island in '83 or '84 (had seen them in nyc before that, but had i realised this would be my last chance i'd have made the effort) the smiths, first ever u.s. gig (it was new year's eve, so i decided to wait and catch them a couple nights later...which never happened due to 1 or 2 of em getting chicken pox-i showed up at the club that night though and got to see the go-betweens) the raincoats in '82 (more because i really didn't know them yet, but i did know that the kitchen was a cool place and should've been going there on a regular basis-did get the chance to see em in '94 though) so, andrew, your friends have a choice to make ;o) just have them imagine it being 1991 and they're considering passing up seeing the pixies :o) - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 08:26:39 +0000 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Extra Pixies dates! On Wed, Feb 11, 2004 at 12:09:45AM -0500, Eardrumbuz@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 2/10/04 7:01:45 PM, andrew-wire@lexical.org.uk writes: > > >Depends on some peoples' exam > >timetables, actually - I bought tickets on the behalf of people who aren't > >certain whether they can come along...) > > ha, that was me about 20 years ago...not going to several gigs > because they were on school nights and guess how i feel about those > choices now! some of the gigs i passed up for a good night's sleep: If it's school, that's one issue. If it's a final examination for the entire degree, that's a different matter - especially when the gig's sixty miles away... - - Andrew - -- home - email: andrew@lexical.org.uk http://www.lexical.org.uk/ work - email: adw27@esc.cam.ac.uk http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ radio: http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ http://www.lexical.org.uk/blog/ ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V7 #42 ******************************