From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V7 #34 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Tuesday, February 3 2004 Volume 07 : Number 034 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] RE: The Cure box set. [MarkBursa@aol.com] RE: [Maybe Spam] Re: [idealcopy] Re: Another bloody top 100!! ["Clements,] Re: [idealcopy] Ex-KJ member in power-ballad production scandal (?) [RLyn] Re: [idealcopy] Super Bowl commercial [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Ex-KJ member in power-ballad production scandal (?) [=?is] Re: [idealcopy] last weeks playlist... [RLynn9@aol.com] RE: [idealcopy] Ex-KJ member in power-ballad production scandal ( ?) [Pau] Re: [idealcopy] last weeks playlist... ["Keith" ] Re: [idealcopy] last weeks playlist... ["Tim" >>I would like to have seen the "Carnage Visors" film on the Faith Tour, << > > It's great. Little animated robot men seemingly made out of kitchen > implements (bit like the Cadbury's Smash ad!) that walk about, stand still and > generally do... not a lot. > > Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 12:40:56 -0000 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: RE: [Maybe Spam] Re: [idealcopy] Re: Another bloody top 100!! > > Must confess to having The Yes Album (used to like Yours Is=20 > > No Disgrace) > > and Going For The One (I too liked the title track) in place=20 > > between XTC's > > Black Sea and The Young Marble Giants Colossal Youth!! >=20 > ... followed by ZZ Top ? >=20 > ;-) >=20 > Frank Frank Zappa - Sleep Dirt Should anyone want to read the entire list in all it's glory, here's the = full Top 242!!=20 http://www.screamingsecrets.com/html/headcount.html Is Sleep Dirt on that list? I can see Hot Rats... There weren't many voters anyway. Bruno ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 09:54:55 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Ex-KJ member in power-ballad production scandal (?) In a message dated 2/2/04 3:34:18 AM Central Standard Time, PaulRabjohn@aol.com writes: > our youth will do anytihng he fancies. he did a bananarama album , blue pearl > , zoe , played bass for kate bush ; dido would not give him any sleepless > nights at all. p and let's not forget the great things that he did with The Orb (no sarcasm intended) RL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 10:06:41 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Super Bowl commercial In a message dated 2/1/04 6:26:04 PM Central Standard Time, dpbailey@worldnet.att.net writes: > dan, who last really paid attention to the super bowl in 1/73, though the > final few minutes from 2 years ago made for gripping radio on the drive back > from nashville you don't know what you're missing Dan RL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 15:20:14 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Monochromatic=20Man?= Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Ex-KJ member in power-ballad production scandal (?) I can live without the Art of Noise remixes as well... Didn't he work with Crowded House? wnd3 - --- RLynn9@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 2/2/04 3:34:18 AM Central > Standard Time, > PaulRabjohn@aol.com writes: > > > our youth will do anytihng he fancies. he did a > bananarama album , blue > pearl > > , zoe , played bass for kate bush ; dido would not > give him any sleepless > > nights at all. p > > and let's not forget the great things that he did > with The Orb (no sarcasm > intended) > > RL ___________________________________________________________ BT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save #80 http://btyahoo.yahoo.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 10:24:23 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] last weeks playlist... alright....you tempted me...here was my weekend playlist: Saint Etienne - The Misadventures of Saint Etienne (been on an Etienne kick lately) Swoon 23 - The Legendary Ether Pony (nice little band out of Portland, OR ..sounds like Switchblade Symphony, Cocteau Twins, Slowdive, Mazzy Star all rolled into one) Lull - Continue (i loooong track of subterranean drones and shimmers) Voodoo Child - The End of Everything (yes, i know...what am i doing listening to a Moby cd? this is the best thing that idiot has ever done..because it sounds like Cluster and not Moby...that is my defence your honor) Spiritualized - Lazer Guided Melodies (last thing i enjoyed before they drifted away to suck land) M'Lumbo vs. Cobalt - Spinning Tourists in a City of Ghosts (musique concrete meets avant garde jazz and drum & bass) Single Cell Orchestra - s/t (a decent but not outstanding cd from San Francisco techno/ambient act) Martin Gore - Counterfeit 2 (some really good bits on here...especially the cover of Eno & Cluster: "By This River".....some of it falls flat though..) Faust - 71 Minutes of ( this is really interesting...lots of top notch moments on here...too bad mine is a shitty Russian bootleg...lots of these turning up on ebay now...beware) Faust - Faust Wakes Nosferatu (not at all what i thought it would sound like...a sometimes noisy jam session with very little in the way of creepy ambience...but still good for what it is) RL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 09:39:59 -0800 From: Paul Pietromonaco Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Ex-KJ member in power-ballad production scandal ( ?) > Didn't he work with Crowded House? Yup - produced the "Together Alone" album. Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 18:06:27 -0000 From: "Keith" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] last weeks playlist... Is it my imagination, or has this come thru a few times? Apologies, but I don't keep sending it. > > > > Haven't done this in a while, so here - in aphabetical order - was what I > was > > mainly listening to last week... > > > > Blondie - Good Boys (last yrs surprisingly good comeback single. The > Moroder > > version is good, too) > > > > Broadcast - Haha Sound (yep, a real grower this one. Lovely girlie vocs > over > > electronic backing. A must for Stereolab fans everywhere). > > > > Cabaret Voltaire - Nag Nag Nag (from it's scary intro onwards, sounding > just > > as great as ever!!) > > > > Doves - Last Broadcast (I thought this was really disappointing at first, > but > > it's grown on me a lot in recent times. The singles are excellent, as is > the > > gospel-like Satallite. And the outdoor recorded M62 Song has a certain > charm, > > too) > > > > Electric Six - Danger! Hi Voltage (still sounding gloriously dumb!) > > > > Franz Ferdinand - Take Me Out (single of the yr so far!) > > > > Joe Gibbs Productions - Roots Culture DJ's (excellent compilation) > > > > Iggy & Stooges - Shake Appeal (possibly my fave track off the classic Raw > > Power LP) > > > > Mogwai - Happy Songs For Happy People (another goodie from the Moggies) > > > > The Rapture - House of Jealous Lovers (everything I've heard from this lot > > since has been something of a disappointment, but this still sounds great) > > > > Smog - Dongs of Sevotion (I just love Bill's voice). > > > > Spiritualised - Amazing Grace (especially The Ballad of Richie Lee) > > > > Tarwater - Silur (Great album. And as a Bolan fan I particularly love the > way > > they recite the words to the ancient T.Rex album track The Visit over an > > elctronic backdrop for the first track. A lovely surprise when I first > heard > > it.) > > > > Wire - Read & Burn 2 ep (two bonafide classic tracks in Spent and 99.9 of > > course, and it was great to hear the couple of tracks not included on Send > > again - especially Trash/Treasure with it's killer pop chorus, so typical > of > > Newman) > > > > Keith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 18:18:00 -0000 From: "Keith" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Ex-KJ member in power-ballad production scandal ( ?) > > Didn't he work with Crowded House? > > Yup - produced the "Together Alone" album. > > Cheers, > Paul I heard Naked in the Rain for the first time in *yrs* recently and it sounded pretty fab!! On a different note I also heard When Will I Be Famous for the first time in ages this morning. It's fair to say that one sounded less impressive ; ) K. np Pet Sounds ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 12:34:34 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [idealcopy] last weeks playlist... At 06:06 PM 2/2/2004 +0000, Keith wrote: > Is it my imagination, or has this come thru a few times? Apologies, but I >don't keep sending it. I think it's gone through twice. I'm not sure why. Sometimes I approve a bounced message, but in the meantime, the original poster has figured out why it bounced and sent it again, but this wasn't one of those cases. Of course, by quoting all of your original post, you've sort of sent it through one more time. ;-) later, listowner Miles, who hasn't complained about the quoting thing in years (really!) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 23:12:17 -0000 From: "Keith" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] last weeks playlist... > Of course, by quoting all of your original post, you've sort of sent it through one more time. ;-) > > later, > > listowner Miles, > who hasn't complained > about the quoting thing > in years (really!) Sorry sir. But I thought it was so interesting you may want to read it again ; ) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 00:43:32 +0000 From: "Jason Rogers" Subject: [idealcopy] RE: last weeks playlist... You people have some impressive playlists. I didn't listen to very much during the past week aside from The Cure box set and a couple of listens to the superbly remastered expanded edition of The Fall's Live At The Witch Trials. Things change today, though. I just bought the new Church album, Forget Yourself. I've only listened to this album twice and I've already decided that it's their best effort since Gold Afternoon Fix. Not too shabby... Jason _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE online virus check for your PC here, from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 01:10:26 +0000 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: [idealcopy] playlists, and IdealCopy TV (rd. 2) Next Monday, 9th February: Jesus College, Cambridge (feat. me) versus University of Wales, Bangor, on University Challenge. BBC2 UK, 8:30pm. I expect to be roundly heckled. Stuff I've been into recently: Cex - "Being Ridden" (Temporary Residence) Howard Hello - "Don't Drink the Blood" (Temporary Residence) The Magnificents - "The Magnificents" (KFM Records) Ulrich Schnauss - "Far Away Trains Passing By" (City Centre Offices) Post Punk 01 (Rough Trade) Gimme Skelter (Buddyhead Records, featuring my favourite version of Spent yet) Neil Young - "Decade" (picked this up for a fiver over Christmas) Franz Ferdinand - "Franz Ferdinand" (Domino) The Longcut's demo Donderevo's album sampler Akira (http://www.akiraband.com/) The Von Bondies - "Cmon Cmon" (great pop single, utterly vacuous but catchy) Earth: The Californian Love Dream - "In The Garden" (great single, again) - - A - -- Earth Sciences, University of Cambridge http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ DJ, CUR1350 - http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ http://www.lexical.org.uk/blog/ personal email: andrew@lexical.org.uk "... plucking hours from the sky" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 02:27:28 -0000 From: "Tim" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Super Bowl commercial If you really want to have loads of mates who are into The Cure then you should probably buy a TARDIS and move into a squat in Leeds....in 1983. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "dan bailey" To: "ideal copy" Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Super Bowl commercial > hmmm ... the cure news site had forecast that the ad would air in the 3rd > quarter. surely the game isn't that far along? to find out i'd have to > overcome my revulsion toward (a) the nfl & (b) all the fake, manufactured > foofaraw that's intended to disguise such a 2nd-rate event ... > > dan, who last really paid attention to the super bowl in 1/73, though the > final few minutes from 2 years ago made for gripping radio on the drive back > from nashville > > > >Cure Fans: Watching the Super Bowl with assorted loved ones, family > members > >and various hangers-on. Monster.com commercial during the game uses I Dig > >You. I turn to those nearest and dearest to me to share this unique event. > >Blank. Nada. Nil. Zip. Under my breath I mutter, "get out...all of you > get > >out..." Not a Cult Hero in the bunch. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 02:36:22 -0000 From: "Tim" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] last weeks playlist... > Spiritualized - Lazer Guided Melodies (last thing i enjoyed before they > drifted away to suck land) I think Pure Phase is brilliant as well, if only for the fact that it has the 'Pure Phase' sample running throughout almost every track which I think is probably unique? Also, Jason did entirely different mixes for the left and right channel of the mix, which I presume hasn't been done before or since. I love it! Don't think the later records will stand the test of time though. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 02:46:39 -0000 From: "Tim" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Ex-KJ member in power-ballad production scandal (?) Dido makes me want to smoke crack. She is about as exciting as a traffic Jam, and about as Soulful as Roy Chubby Brown. She is surely the blandest of the bland and has no place in Wirespace? Honestly you would think punk had never happened and Johnny Rotten was just some cheesy TV celeb on ITV.......oh SHIT! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "sean bowen" To: "ideal copy" Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 8:42 AM Subject: [idealcopy] Ex-KJ member in power-ballad production scandal (?) > My favourite song on Dido's first album, "Don't Think of Me" is credited as > being produced by "Youth" - who apparently also plays bass on the track. Do > any of you know whether this is the same "Youth" who was in Killing Joke for > their first 3 or four years ? What a talent ! > (I'm sure there are as many Dido fans on this list as there are KJ fans !) > Sean. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 00:07:23 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] last weeks playlist... In a message dated 2/1/04 3:49:04 PM, keith.indoorminer@virgin.net writes: >especially Trash/Treasure with it's killer pop chorus, so typical of >Newman) yeah, exactly. and this one takes the listener by surprise and remains one of my faves off the r&b's/send. here's my list of highlights for the week: psychedelic furs-book of days (actually an incredible downer of a song, but still a great listen) black box recorder-the art of driving (very cute...when will mr haines get his 15 mintues?) skyray-contact high (paul simpson is making an entire album available for free download, 1 song each month, at http://www.skyray.co.uk/) clientele-emptily through holloway (sweet and lovely, but shack tops that list for me right now...they've got punch) shack-mood of the morning (how can ya not sing along with a smile on yer face?) shack-miles apart (simply, a gorgeous pop song with intensity...and stretched to 5+minutes) !!!-there's no f*cking rules dude (it's not me and giuliani down by the schoolyard, but these guys are the epitome of everything...well almost everything i loved in the 80's) nirvana-something in the way (if i ever felt like covering one of theirs, this would probably be it) i'm really digging a bunch of songs by death cab for cutie, quite reminiscent of 60's british invasion while still sounding unique and fitting in well with their contemporaries in britpop and postrock. also, heard a song on the radio that must be from the new stereolab album...right onto the list it goes! - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 08:40:30 -0000 From: Adrian Cooke Subject: RE: [idealcopy] RE: last weeks playlist... I am listening to Aphex Twin 'Druqks'. I think it has done something to my brain. Good album actually, think I overlooked it slightly when I bought it. Takes on a new lease of life on headphones though. Adrian - -----Original Message----- From: Jason Rogers [mailto:inspectorjason@hotmail.com] Sent: 03 February 2004 00:44 To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: [idealcopy] RE: last weeks playlist... You people have some impressive playlists. I didn't listen to very much during the past week aside from The Cure box set and a couple of listens to the superbly remastered expanded edition of The Fall's Live At The Witch Trials. Things change today, though. I just bought the new Church album, Forget Yourself. I've only listened to this album twice and I've already decided that it's their best effort since Gold Afternoon Fix. Not too shabby... Jason _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE online virus check for your PC here, from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V7 #34 ******************************