From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V7 #24 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Saturday, January 24 2004 Volume 07 : Number 024 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [idealcopy] no more bargains ["Clements, Bruno - BUP" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:03:01 -0000 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] no more bargains Anyone wanting to make a comparision with UK/US CD prices could try this as an example. A colleague has just bought the Best of Love 22-track CD (Elektra/Rhino) from Virgin for 16.99 UK pounds (and I can't see much of that ending up in the band's pockets or supporting new acts). It's 14.99 dollars on Amazon with second-hand copies for 11.99 dollars. Xe.com makes the UK copy the equivalent of a mighty 31 dollars while US listeners are paying the equivalent of just 8 pounds 11 pence. Some difference, eh? Bruno ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. 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Some > difference, eh? > > Bruno > > > ********************************************************************** > This email and any files transmitted with it are > confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or > entity to whom they > are addressed. If you have received this email in > error please notify > the system manager. > > This footnote also confirms that this email message > has been swept by > MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. > > www.mimesweeper.com > ********************************************************************** ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 11:52:36 -0600 From: "Stephen Graziano" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] More prog on R2, and a tenuous Wire link. Tangerine Dream were cool. They started off great, and (I think) all their albums up to (and maybe including) Stratosphere are worth listening too, with titles like Zeit, Atem, and Phaedra being the cream of the crop sg http://www.sourmashusa.com - ----- Original Message ----- From: "sean bowen" To: "Keith Astbury" Cc: "ideal copy" Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 4:26 PM Subject: [idealcopy] More prog on R2, and a tenuous Wire link. > Keith wrote : > > Dream Theatre, > > > Heard some of this myself. Wasn't keen at all. It was reminiscent of JM > > Jarre at one pointy but then featured some really horrid guitar playing > imo. > > > > > More prog on R2 on Tuesday : the whole half hour of "Sounds of the 70s" with > Steve Harley was a Yes-Fest !!!! > - Bet lots of you on the IC list enjoyed it. Back in '80, I would have > KILLED to have heard that on radio..... > > Re Krautrock link to Wire. Apologies if this has already been discussed when > I wasn't paying attention. I know there are one or two Tangerine Dream fans > past and present on this list. So what was your reaction on first hearing > the instrumental section of "naked, whooping and such-like" on "The First > Letter" ? > For me it was a wonderful opportunity to imagine what TD might have sounded > like if theyd ever become cool. > > Sean. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 17:17:54 -0000 From: "Andrew Lumbard" Subject: [idealcopy] Cuh...Prog Rockers, eh? >> A former member of seventies band Jethro Tull has had a >> sex-change operation >> and become a woman called Dee. >> >> Once bearded keyboard player David Palmer now has long blonde >> hair and wears >> make-up and black leggings, reports the Evening Standard. >> >> She broke the news to flute playing frontman Ian Anderson by saying: >> "There's something I need to get off my increasingly ample chest." >> >> Anderson stood by his former bandmate, saying: "I found it difficult at >> first but I fully support his decision." >> >> Palmer, 66, a former soldier in the Royal Horse Guards and Fellow of the >> Royal Academy of Music, is set to embark on a solo career. >> >> She said: "I want to be judged on my musical ability alone, and nothing >> else." >> >> Her desire to change sex had been an "open secret" in the music >> business for >> many years, she said, but she did not go ahead with the operation until >> the death of wife Margaret nine years ago. >> >> Palmer lives in Hove, East Sussex, but is currently in the >> Spanish resort of >> Lanzarote, recording her first solo album before launching a British tour >> next month. >> >> She said: "I've felt like this since the age of three. It's not >> just wimps >> who want to do this. To be a girl, it goes a lot deeper than >> that. Yes, you >> are speaking to the person you thought I was - the keyboard player in >> Jethro Tull." >> >> Jethro Tull was formed in 1968 and had a string of hits >> including Living In >> The Past and Teacher. Palmer left the band in 1980. >> >> >> Story filed: 11:49 Friday 23rd January 2004 >> >> >> >> >> ******************** >> IMPORTANT NOTICE This email (including any attachments) is >> meant only for >> the intended recipient. It may also contain confidential and privileged >> information. If you are not the intended recipient, any >> reliance on, use, >> disclosure, distribution or copying of this email or attachments >> is strictly >> prohibited. 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Still I can't expect you young American kids to get the finer points of our greatest sport ; ) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 13:02:49 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] this is stupid... http://www.musicplasma.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:30:34 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] no more bargains Adrian... > They do yes. HMV do actually employ people that know their music and tthey > know how to sell it. It wasn't the employees I was talking about. My complaint is not against them. I would have thought it was obvious they don't set the prices. Bruno... >It's 14.99 dollars on Amazon with second-hand copies for 11.99 dollars. >Xe.com makes the UK copy the equivalent of a mighty 31 dollars while US >listeners are paying the equivalent of just 8 pounds 11 pence. Some >difference, eh? Exactly. And yet British companies balk at CD Wow selling cd's at #8.99, and subscribers complain about supermarkets selling them for just under a tenner. As I said I think a tenner is a fair price to pay for a cd (so do Wire - that's how much I spent on Send), and I think that anything over #12.99 is extortionate (that's not to say I've never paid it, mind). My argument is if Tesco's can sell them at those prices, then Virgin and HMV certainly can. And if this is really about investing in new talent, then judging by the price differences between the UK and the US, it seems like only one country is expected to subsidise all these new acts. Presuming, of course, that's where our extra pennies are going. I feel that I do enough for the music industry in this country by buying the CD's I do (the amount of debut singles/albums I own says something about investing in new talent imo), and I owe it to my bank account to pay #3 less at Tesco's if I can. I think we'll just have to agree to differ on this ; ) Keith (feeling a bit better today, thanks!) NP V/A - disco punk ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 18:39:57 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] Singer Adams hurt in stage plunge I'd have gone if I'd have known this was gonna happen ; ) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/3423321.stm [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of BBC NEWS England Merseyside Singer Adams hurt in stage plunge.url] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 19:02:53 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] this is stupid... Christ. I put in Bolan and got, amongst others, The Allman Bros, and the anti-christs we've been talking about of late - Jethro Tull, Yes and the dreaded ELP!!! And Elvis Costello... np damned damned damned (i feel alright sounds so fucking great!) - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 6:02 PM Subject: [idealcopy] this is stupid... > http://www.musicplasma.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 21:03:38 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] I am the AntiChrist....GET ME OUT OF HERE! > Half of me is appalled. The fine line between Johnny Rotten and Freddie > Starr gets thinner and thinner. Johnny's the sane one out of that pair. Actually, I think Johnny will walk. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:59:17 -0000 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] RE: BSP coming to ATL (and so is The Church) Glad you enjoyed Herman Dune Andy. Don't think they did My Hometown but I wouldn't necessarily recognise it anyway if they didn't announce it as such. I am seriously thinking of seeing them again next Thursday at London's premier night spot, the Bethnal Green Social Club. Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Lumbard np Herman Dune - Mas Cambios, purchased at last nights gig, Splendidly recommended by ATK. Did they do the Springsteen, My Hometown, cover when you saw them, Keith? AndyL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 21:05:11 -0000 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] I am the AntiChrist....GET ME OUT OF HERE! You've summed up my thoughts perfectly Tim. I hate this sort of programme (bar Big Brother which I perversely love) but the thought of Lydon on primetime TV every night is just wonderful. I suspect he'll win if he can be arsed to stick it out. After all Phil Tufnell won last year and both of them could have played the Artful Dodger in a school production of Oliver. Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: 22 January 2004 02:16 To: Phillip Blakeney; idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: [idealcopy] I am the AntiChrist....GET ME OUT OF HERE! Actually, Rotten Luck UK cos that's where the show will be shown. Hosted on primetime ITV by primetime TV faves Ant & Dec. Half of me is appalled. The fine line between Johnny Rotten and Freddie Starr gets thinner and thinner. The other half of me hopes its true because it will make fucking fantastic TV to have Mr Lydon among all those wannabe celebs. It might also mean a regular dose of "Filth and Fury" on Mainstream UK telly for a few weeks which is no bad thing. In fact, looking at the rest of the celebs, he might well win the darn thing......and finally become the Pantomime "King Rat" he's always been destined for. The nearest the last series of 'I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here' got to Punk was Toyah Wilcox who was a contestant last year. However, it was worth it......because when someone gets voted off, they bring their partner on to welcome them home. So, on the night Toyah gets voted off, cue a very surreal TV moment with Ant'n'Dec interviewing a bewildered Robert Fripp. Ant & Dec ask him about what it was like seeing his wife only on a TV screen for 2 weeks......and he becomes the first person to make reference to a "Money Shot", live, on mainstream ITV. I wonder what Nora will say! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phillip Blakeney" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 7:15 PM Subject: [idealcopy] Rotten luck Australia > The following article comes from the Sydney Morning Herald: > > "Punk rocker Johnny Rotten was named today as one of the contestants in a celebrity reality TV show being filmed in Australia. > > "The former Sex Pistols singer - whose real name is John Lydon - is the most internationally famous of the 10 "celebrities" picked for the two-week competition of I'm A Celebrity ... Get Me Out Of Here! which is filmed in the Australian jungle and begins next Monday. > > "As lead singer of The Sex Pistols, Lydon, 47, helped revolutionise the music of the 1970s with raucous anti-establishment tracks such as Anarchy in the UK and God Save The Queen. The group played a key role in defining the punk movement, through its dissonant music, rebellious attitudes and scruffy dress sense. > > "Other contestants on the show include topless model Jordan; the BBC's former royal correspondent Jennie Bond; and Alex Best, wife of former soccer star George Best. > > "Contestants undergo a series of challenges - such as showering under maggots or handling snakes - in the hope of being crowned King or Queen of the Jungle. Past winners have received a boost to their flagging careers thanks to the publicity the show generates." > > Hmmmm, don't know what to make of this! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 21:23:24 -0000 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] no more bargains DVDs are excluded from the CD Wow deal. Only CDs are affected. At present there is no duty or VAT on goods from outside the EU worth less than #18. The EU are thinking of lowering this limit to around seven quid (to stop the CD Wow effect) but this would have a huge impact on the resources required by Customs authorities to check incoming packages and there will be pressure not to lower it. Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Lumbard Sent: 22 January 2004 19:31 To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: RE: [idealcopy] no more bargains Hmmm...tricky one. Stuff coming in or out of Channel Isles is subject to the same Customs and import/export duty, and requires appropriate paperwork as you would for any non-EU country. Unless it is travelling by Royal Mail. Bizarre indeed. But I tend to think that if the BPI have done this to CDWOW (Hong Kong?), then they will find a way of doing it to Play.com, probably in the form of an import/export tax. AndyL (DHL) >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org]On >> Behalf Of Clements, Bruno - BUP >> Sent: 22 January 2004 14:30 >> To: 'idealcopy@smoe.org' >> Subject: RE: [idealcopy] no more bargains >> >> >> We've used play.com for DVDs, which are sent from Jersey to the >> UK... Wonder >> if they have to pay a surcharge eventually too? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 19:55:44 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] O.T,Gone to....... http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1030832.htm Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V7 #24 ******************************