From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V7 #6 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Friday, January 9 2004 Volume 07 : Number 006 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [idealcopy] Wire in Japan NZ & OZ ["Tim ****" ] RE: [idealcopy] Yes? No!!! ["Clements, Bruno - BUP" ] Re: [idealcopy] pram - owl service ["Keith Astbury" ] RE: [idealcopy] [OT] pram - owl service [Paul Pietromonaco ] Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Yes? No!!! [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Yes? No!!! [Andrew Walkingshaw ] RE: [idealcopy] [OT] Yes? No!!! ["Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Wire in Japan NZ & OZ Crikey this place is busy.... ? - Can Someone Put In a PERTH Date HERE FRI 5 MAR SYDNEY, Australia - GAELIC CLUB SUN 7 MAR MELBOURNE, Australia - THE CORNER Thanks, Tim "Chickychickybaabababaachicken,Chickychickybaababaababaaboehh" - ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Keith Knight" To: , Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Wire in Japan NZ & OZ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 00:54:15 -0000 Yeah, I could go for that. Just back from The Water Rats, where Mr Gilbert was spotted last year - ideal size and ambience I would have thought. Better than Groningen and N Carolina anyway. Another the Keith (beating a hasty retreat) Just seen the excellent Herman Dune again by the way - highly recommended and they're touring the UK now. Also enjoyed Norwegian oddity St Thomas, a man not afraid to wield a banjo occasionally. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of MarkBursa@aol.com Sent: 07 January 2004 17:33 To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire in Japan NZ & OZ > >Rumour has abounded for some time of some WIRE dates in Japan & > Australasia. Must be a little rusty though... and those new R&B03 tunes will need a run through. Could do with a pre-departure warm-up gig, in a nice intimate London venue... ;-) Mark _________________________________________________________________ Get less junk mail with ninemsn Premium. Click here http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 11:01:12 -0000 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Re: Another bloody top 100!! whichever yes lp contains owner of a lonely heart, my shelves include. not that i'm particularly proud of that fact. dan - ---It's Big Generator. The title track sounds great when played loud, as does Going for the One. I have no other Yes titles in my collection. Honest! Bruno ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 22:32:19 +1100 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Phillip=20Blakeney?= Subject: [idealcopy] Wire in Oz and NZ Hooray!! Three dates in Australia to choose from!! I live in Sydney so will go to the Gaelic Club show (I saw Radio Birdman there recently. The venue is quite small with a flat floor area and a balcony as well. Quite good really.) I will probably travel to either the Brisbane or Melbourne gig as well, but it's a loooong way either way (9 hour drive or so each way) still probably the one and only chances to see them here--- so its now or never. Any other ideal copyists from the Oz Eastern States on the list??? Phillip form Australia - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Personals - - New people, new possibilities. FREE for a limited time! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 11:06:14 -0000 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: [idealcopy] Wire in Japan NZ & OZ Subject: [Maybe Spam] Re: [idealcopy] Wire in Japan NZ & OZ > Must be a little rusty though... and those new R&B03 tunes will need a run > through. Could do with a pre-departure warm-up gig, in a nice intimate London > venue... ;-) No no no, why not warm up at the Eurosonic Festival In Groningen that is about to begin. They'd get lots of attention that way and I mean, if it's good enough for Mr. John Peel to come and visit... ;-) Bart http://www.iprecom.nl/noorderslag/2004/festival/index.html Yeah - I'd go (it's not hard to get to as plenty of trains run there from Amsterdam Central, itself only a short train journey from Schiphol airport). ...I could offset the mailing cost of Bart's CD consignment against the airfare! Bruno ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 11:52:25 -0000 From: Alistair Tear Subject: FW: [idealcopy] Wire in Japan NZ & OZ And with Ryanair's current fare of 99 pence to fly Stanstead - Groningen, it's eminently affordable... A No no no, why not warm up at the Eurosonic Festival In Groningen that is about to begin. They'd get lots of attention that way and I mean, if it's good enough for Mr. John Peel to come and visit... ;-) Bart http://www.iprecom.nl/noorderslag/2004/festival/index.html Yeah - I'd go (it's not hard to get to as plenty of trains run there from Amsterdam Central, itself only a short train journey from Schiphol airport). ...I could offset the mailing cost of Bart's CD consignment against the airfare! Bruno ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. 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No!!! >> whichever yes lp contains owner of a lonely heart, my shelves include. >> not that i'm particularly proud of that fact. >> dan > ---It's Big Generator. The title track sounds great when played loud, as > does Going for the One. I have no other Yes titles in my collection. Honest! > Bruno Lonely Heart is on "YES" (1983). Big Generator doesn't seem to have it nor Going for the One on it though. I'll google... (see below). I know Going for the One from... Going for the One (1977)! The earlier mentioned Don't Kill The Whale was on Tormato (1978), the last Yes album I bought/heard. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=1838 Bart (Harmonic Generator's better than Big Generator) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 13:10:16 -0000 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Yes? No!!! Ahem, I'd better check my CDs before making any more inaccurate postings! Bruno Lonely Heart is on "YES" (1983). Big Generator doesn't seem to have it nor Going for the One on it though. BART ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 13:22:17 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] pram - owl service I'd not seen this before. "interesting" video... = http://www.dominorecordco.com/videos.php?video=3D58&PHPSESSID=3Dbc602bddf= ce7ca6b65a3d2978245c610 [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of Domino Playing Video.url] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 13:27:58 +0000 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: [idealcopy] paging "proper" musicians... Did anyone else see the announcement of Apple GarageBand? Looks like a pretty compelling bit of software - iMovie for music... but I'd be interested in what the people actually making music on the list thought of it! (I'm hopeful that the availability of this kind of software - and I'm including Acid, Ableton Live, and the like in this - will open up the music-making process a bit; plus Acid, especially, is just *so much* fun to play with.) - - andrew - -- home - email: andrew@lexical.org.uk http://www.lexical.org.uk/ work - email: adw27@esc.cam.ac.uk http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ radio: http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ (5pm Mon) http://www.lexical.org.uk/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 14:45:29 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] pram - owl service > I'd not seen this before. "interesting" video... I'm not sure which video you mean Keith - I got an error, but nosing around I found lots of great ones I hadn't seen before... e.g. Pavement/Stephen Malkmus & Four Tet. Cheers, Bart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 13:56:14 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] pram - owl service pram - owl service. haven't checked the others out yet... - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bart van Damme" To: "wire-news" Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] pram - owl service > > I'd not seen this before. "interesting" video... > > I'm not sure which video you mean Keith - I got an error, but nosing around > I found lots of great ones I hadn't seen before... e.g. Pavement/Stephen > Malkmus & Four Tet. > > Cheers, > Bart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 08:52:47 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Another bloody top 100!! In a message dated 1/8/04 5:21:09 AM Central Standard Time, B.Clements@bepp.co.uk writes: > whichever yes lp contains owner of a lonely heart, my shelves include. > not > that i'm particularly proud of that fact. > > dan > > ---It's Big Generator. The title track sounds great when played loud, as > does Going for the One. I have no other Yes titles in my collection. Honest! > > Bruno > > > incorrect sir......the album in question is "90125" from 1983...produced by part time Yes member Trevor Horn (Buggles/Art of Noise...Zang Tum Tum Label)....the album also includes some other decent tracks like "Hold on"..."It Can Happen"...."Changes"...and "Leave it"...... Robert-who happens to like Yes and thought of them as an extension of Krautrock's ideals...so there ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 15:00:13 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] paging "proper" musicians... Looks promising enough! Think I'll have me one! http://www.apple.com/ilife/garageband "GarageBand turns your Mac into an anytime, anywhere recording studio packed with hundreds of instruments and a recording engineer or two for good measure. It9s the easiest way to create, perform and record your own music whether you9re an accomplished player or just wish you were a rock star. And GarageBand is the newest member of the iLife family, so you can add your original music to your slideshows, your DVD menus, burn it to CDs or score your iMovie projects." There are new mini-ipods out too: http://www.apple.com - -Bart > Did anyone else see the announcement of Apple GarageBand? Looks like a > pretty compelling bit of software - iMovie for music... but I'd be interested > in what the people actually making music on the list thought of it! > > (I'm hopeful that the availability of this kind of software - > and I'm including Acid, Ableton Live, and the like in this - will open > up the music-making process a bit; plus Acid, especially, is just *so much* > fun to play with.) > > - andrew ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 07:56:59 -0600 From: "Jack Alberson" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Yes? No!!! Actually, the official title of the album with "Owner of a Lonely Heart" is 90125, a name they got from the catalogue number of the record itself. Proud to say that yes, I own it as well. Big Generator is the one with "Love Will Find A Way"--some nice synthesizer bits in that one. Never said I had good taste (except Wire, of course!) Jack L. Alberson Property Administrator CB Richard Ellis First Tennessee Building 165 Madison Avenue Memphis, TN 38103 (901) 521-1748 - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Clements, Bruno - BUP Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 7:10 AM To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Yes? No!!! Ahem, I'd better check my CDs before making any more inaccurate postings! Bruno Lonely Heart is on "YES" (1983). Big Generator doesn't seem to have it nor Going for the One on it though. BART ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 16:44:49 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire in Japan NZ & OZ >> No no no, why not warm up at the Eurosonic Festival In Groningen that is >> about to begin. They'd get lots of attention that way and I mean, if it's >> good enough for Mr. John Peel to come and visit... ;-) >> Bart >> http://www.iprecom.nl/noorderslag/2004/festival/index.html > Yeah - I'd go (it's not hard to get to as plenty of trains run there from > Amsterdam Central, itself only a short train journey from Schiphol airport). Like Alistair said - it's easier to directly fly to Groningen from London/Stanstead. Only 0.99 GBP!!! > ...I could offset the mailing cost of Bart's CD consignment against the > airfare! > > Bruno Burn baby, burn! ;-) Bart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 11:38:15 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Yes? No!!! > >>(Harmonic Generator's better than Big Generator)<< > > Jeez, it MUST be bad!! > > Mark ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 10:11:47 -0800 From: Paul Pietromonaco Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Yes? No!!! >Lonely Heart is on "YES" (1983). No - not quite. (^_^) The actual album title is 90125: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Areapqj1boj0a The title is the original Atco release number. Imaginative, huh? (^_^) Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 10:39:05 -0800 From: Paul Pietromonaco Subject: RE: [idealcopy] [OT] pram - owl service >pram - owl service. > >haven't checked the others out yet... I think I fixed the URL. http://www.dominorecordco.com/videos.php?video=58 When you get an URL that's long like that, they can sometimes be shortened. The &PHPSESSID field in the original link is a way to track the user as they go thru the site. Allmusic.com & amazon.com use URLs like this, too. Using George Harrison as a search tag... Allmusic.com: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=B3z0qoaeabijm works from the original: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=UIDMISS70401081 335151714&sql=B3z0qoaeabijm Amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000CEB4V/ works from the original: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000CEB4V/ qid=1073586874//ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i0_xgl74/103-6730761-0803 820?v=glance&s=dvd&n=507846 Now I'm off to fix some disc errors.... (^_^) Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 10:42:09 -0800 From: Paul Pietromonaco Subject: RE: [idealcopy] [OT] Yes? No!!! >>Lonely Heart is on "YES" (1983). > >No - not quite. (^_^) > >The actual album title is 90125: Oops - sorry I didn't read thru the rest of my mail inbox. Guess this makes about the 3rd post with the album title. How many Yes fans do we have out there? (^_^) Cheers, Paul N.P. George Harrison's Brainwashed, although I might have to put in my DVD Audio copy of Fragile...(^_^) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 14:18:20 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Yes? No!!! > >>How many Yes fans do we have out > there? (^_^)<< To bleedin' many. I didn't fight the punk rock wars to listen to you lot blathering on about prog rock..... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 19:37:01 +0000 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Yes? No!!! On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 02:18:20PM -0500, MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: > > >>How many Yes fans do we have out > > there? (^_^)<< > > > To bleedin' many. I didn't fight the punk rock wars to listen to you lot > blathering on about prog rock..... I so nearly posted that. The only reason I didn't is that I'm not sure whether MBV, Sigur Ros, Mogwai, gybe!, and the rest of that stuff isn't prog by the back door... - - Andrew - -- home - email: andrew@lexical.org.uk http://www.lexical.org.uk/ work - email: adw27@esc.cam.ac.uk http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ radio: http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ (5pm Mon) http://www.lexical.org.uk/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 20:45:20 -0000 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Re: Another bloody top 100!! Ah, Yesdebate - Love it! (he said, blithely ignoring Messrs Bursa and Walkingshaw). I've outed myself here before as a Yes-owner - in fact I even re-purchased The Yes Album (the third album I ever bought) on vinyl in the NINETIES, so much did I want to re-hear it. Although I still won't forgive them for Topographic Oceans and really don't care for much for anything thereafter. And the photo of the lads in leathers on the back of Tormato is one of the worst rock photographs of all time (not to mention the awfulness of the title). Robert - interested in what you mean by the quote below. Musically there's not much similarity from my pov, and Yes pre-date Krautrock (first album 1969) so please expand! Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of RLynn9@aol.com Robert-who happens to like Yes and thought of them as an extension of Krautrock's ideals...so there ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 20:59:34 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Yes? No!!! > > >>How many Yes fans do we have out > > there? (^_^)<< > > > To bleedin' many. I didn't fight the punk rock wars to listen to you lot > blathering on about prog rock..... > > Mark Ooh. He's gone right grouchy of late, has our Mark. God only knows what he's gonna be like when his team are in administration and in the Nationwide ; ) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 16:03:51 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Another bloody top 100!! In a message dated 1/8/04 2:45:52 PM Central Standard Time, steeleknight@lineone.net writes: > Robert - interested in what you mean by the quote below. Musically > there's not much similarity from my pov, and Yes pre-date Krautrock > (first album 1969) so please expand! > technically, "krautrock" goes back to 67... RL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 21:14:21 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Another bloody top 100!! > And the photo of the lads in leathers on the back > of Tormato is one of the worst rock photographs of all time (not to > mention the awfulness of the title). I remember hearing that Yes had an album coming out and thinking Tomato was a great name for an album (and unlikely one for them). And then I saw it printed. That "R" ruined it!! > Robert - interested in what you mean by the quote below. Musically > there's not much similarity from my pov, and Yes pre-date Krautrock > (first album 1969) so please expand! Ha. Come on, Robert. Pressure's on now, mate! Keith np v/a - mojo 2003 - just played a Joe Strummer & Mescaleros track called Coma Girl. Now admittedly I mightn't be the biggest Clash fan here, but I do like them. I thought latterday Joe stuff was supposed to be OK, and what I've heard wasn't too bad, but this track is truly AWFUL. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 16:30:31 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Another bloody top 100!! In a message dated 08/01/2004 21:20:18 GMT Standard Time, keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: > np v/a - mojo 2003 - just played a Joe Strummer &Mescaleros track called > Coma Girl. Now admittedly I mightn't be the biggest Clash fan here, but I do > like them. I thought latterday Joe stuff was supposed to be OK, and what > I've heard wasn't too bad, but this track is truly AWFUL. > /////after zero critical interest in his solo career for about 20 years , the final album's appearance in just about every critic's 2003 top ten seemed a bit rich really...........p ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 16:33:31 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Yes? No!!! In a message dated 1/8/04 1:28:21 PM Central Standard Time, MarkBursa@aol.com writes: > > >>How many Yes fans do we have out > > there? (^_^)<< > > > To bleedin' many. I didn't fight the punk rock wars to listen to you lot > blathering on about prog rock..... > > Mark > now, where the hell did i put that ASTEROID!...i know it's around here somewhere RL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 16:34:49 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Yes? No!!! In a message dated 1/8/04 2:01:16 PM Central Standard Time, andrew-wire@lexical.org.uk writes: > > To bleedin' many. I didn't fight the punk rock wars to listen to you lot > > blathering on about prog rock..... > > I so nearly posted that. The only reason I didn't is that I'm not > sure > whether MBV, Sigur Ros, Mogwai, gybe!, and the rest of that stuff isn't > prog by the back door... > > - Andrew BINGO! RL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 16:45:31 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Another bloody top 100!! In a message dated 1/8/04 3:08:03 PM Central Standard Time, keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: > > Robert - interested in what you mean by the quote below. Musically > > there's not much similarity from my pov, and Yes pre-date Krautrock > > (first album 1969) so please expand! > Pink Floyd...Yes...Genesis...etc. were the UK's version of "krautrock" which in itself was the melding of the art and experimentalism of Stockhausen, Cage, Henry etc. fused with sensibilities and energy of UK/US rock-n-roll sprinkled with the emerging technology of synths and keyboards....Floyd, Genesis, and Yes (and others) all took cues in direction from the "krautrockers".....arguably , even folks like Roxy Music and David Bowie continued the thread... how's that Keith? RL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 03:50:50 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Another bloody top 100!! i have no (un)earthly idea how/whether goblin fit into the supposed prog/krautrock continuum, but i must say i was delighted last night to discover that their soundtrack for dario argento's suspiria is the 3rd disc in the special dvd edition of that movie i chanced across last night for something like $12 in the used racks at the local going-out-of-business coconuts ... caught the movie on the scifi channel (i think) a couple of months ago -- i'd been wanting to see it for something like 20 years -- & was quite impressed by the soundtrack, a rare occurrence for me. the same store's half-of-half used sale also yielded the no thanks '70s punk box set for $13 or so. mind you, i think i own everything on there with the exception of joe jackson's is she really going out with him (traded in my copy of the vinyl back in '81), but still, it's a nice package, & god knows the price can't be beat. dan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 23:23:28 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Another bloody top 100!! > technically, "krautrock" goes back to 67... It is said though that even earlier, at the end WW2, a certain KarlHeinz Schoepke, sausage salesman in Stuttgart, began moving rythmically in a strange fashion to the sounds of the falling bombs which seemed to accompany his Lilly Marlene record he played at totally the wrong speed... Bart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 17:28:07 EST From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Another bloody top 100!! In a message dated 08/01/2004 22:26:27 GMT Standard Time, bartvandamme@home.nl writes: > It is said though that even earlier, at the end WW2, a certain KarlHeinz > Schoepke, sausage salesman in Stuttgart, began moving rythmically in a > strange fashion to the sounds of the falling bombs which seemed to accompany > his Lilly Marlene record he played at totally the wrong speed... > Yes ...that must be it. Chris NP Kraftwerk - Autobahn ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:44:22 +0800 From: "Tim ****" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Yes? No!!! To bleedin' many. I didn't fight the punk rock wars to listen to you lot blathering on about prog rock..... Exactly..you'll be onto Rick Wakeman releases & the guitar solos of Steve Howe next.... Tim np - Section 25 - Always Now "Chickychickybaabababaachicken,Chickychickybaababaababaaboehh" RSW - ----Original Message Follows---- From: RLynn9@aol.com To: andrew-wire@lexical.org.uk, idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Yes? No!!! Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 16:34:49 EST In a message dated 1/8/04 2:01:16 PM Central Standard Time, andrew-wire@lexical.org.uk writes: > > To bleedin' many. I didn't fight the punk rock wars to listen to you lot > > blathering on about prog rock..... > > I so nearly posted that. The only reason I didn't is that I'm not > sure > whether MBV, Sigur Ros, Mogwai, gybe!, and the rest of that stuff isn't > prog by the back door... > > - Andrew BINGO! RL _________________________________________________________________ ninemsn Premium transforms your e-mail with colours, photos and animated text. Click here http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 21:06:52 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Yes? No!!! In a message dated 1/8/04 7:44:43 PM Central Standard Time, oneloveonebagonenil@hotmail.com writes: > Exactly..you'll be onto Rick Wakeman releases &the guitar solos of Steve > Howe next.... > > Tim > > > well...Rick Wakeman DID play on Bowie's Hunky Dory album... RL you say Tomato and i say Tormato ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 22:01:52 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Yes? No!!! > Ooh. He's gone right grouchy of late, has our Mark. > > God only knows what he's gonna be like when his team are in administration > and in the Nationwide ; ) I shall be Official List Curmudgeon. Mark E Bursa ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 03:06:22 -0000 From: "Tim" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Yes? No!!! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Walkingshaw" To: Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Yes? No!!! > On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 02:18:20PM -0500, MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: > > > >>How many Yes fans do we have out > > > there? (^_^)<< > > > > > > To bleedin' many. I didn't fight the punk rock wars to listen to you lot > > blathering on about prog rock..... > > I so nearly posted that. The only reason I didn't is that I'm not sure > whether MBV, Sigur Ros, Mogwai, gybe!, and the rest of that stuff isn't > prog by the back door... > If Sigur Ros, Mogwai and GYBE had existed in 1973 they would be Prog Rock without any shadow of a doubt. However they also have better haircuts than the likes of Yes and ELP and their 'Prog' is informed by a post-punk, post-80s, post-electronica attitude and of course is mostly instrumental.....so no elves, goblin or snow geese...but otherwise you are spot on! But I fail to see how the awesome, speaker-shredding but beautiful noise that MBV made has any relation to Prog! Anyone else? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 08:40:06 -0000 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] [OT] Yes? No!!! > >>How many Yes fans do we have out > there? (^_^)<< To bleedin' many. I didn't fight the punk rock wars to listen to you lot blathering on about prog rock..... Mark - ---It's a fair cop! Mind you, I didn't actually buy a Yes album until about 10 years ago having liked Big Generator on a compilation tape my brother did for me... There's also the problem of only one or two decent tracks per album (Going for the One, is an example)... Not too sure about 'war' talk - getting bashed over the head after a Stranglers gig in 1979 was more than enough for anyone! Bruno ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V7 #6 *****************************