From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V6 #391 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Thursday, January 1 2004 Volume 06 : Number 391 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] 100th Window ["Clements, Bruno - BUP" ] Re: [idealcopy] 1977 Punk Diary (Oi! Stop Ligging At The Bar & Get Down The Front!) ["Keith Astbury" ] Re: [idealcopy] Of lists... [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] 1977 Punk Diary (Oi! Stop Ligging At The Bar & Get Down The Front!) ["dan bailey" ] [idealcopy] Of lists... ["Jan J Noorda" ] Re: [idealcopy] 1977 Punk Diary (Oi! Stop Ligging At The Bar & Get Down The Front!) ["Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] 100th Window Does anyone else find that attempting to copy the 100th Window CD only allows you to get to MP3 versions of the tracks... ? Bruno ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 12:42:16 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] 1977 Punk Diary (Oi! Stop Ligging At The Bar & Get Down The Front!) Nice one. Wire played the Red Cow on my birthday. Meanwhile I hung about at the swings on the common IIRC! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim ****" To: Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 1:19 PM Subject: [idealcopy] 1977 Punk Diary (Oi! Stop Ligging At The Bar & Get Down The Front!) > For those here that are interested? > > http://members.tripod.com/19775/77index/ > > Happy New Year & Kill Nostalgia :-) > > Tim > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get less junk mail with ninemsn Premium. Click here > http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 12:57:43 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Sir Alan Bates dies at 69, Bob at 75 > And therefore Bob Monkhouse surely deserves his place in Wirespace forever. But only if Outdoor Miner had been number one for 12 weeks and Flag Burning was a summer residency ; ) > perhaps he really was the nearest thing British > comedy had to John Peel! Last seen on the repeat of Grumpy Old Men. Anyone else here being told by their partner that it's like watching you on the telly? Well I don't care what they say. I am not grumpy. There's just some things in the world that I'm unhappy with that I think need pointing out!! Give me another few years and I'll be standing at the town criers spot in Chester handingout leaflets about the dumbing down of British telly ; ) > His recent two-parter on British comedy was beautiful and extraordinary, > almost too poignant to watch as it was clearly a labour of love and the work > of a man who knew he wasn't going to be around much longer. Bound to be > repeated soon....watch it. Well I hope so, I didn't catch it all, but it was very impressive. I didn't know Bob was ill when I watched it, so much of the poignancy was pretty much lost on me. Keith PS If Bob was comedy's Peel, who were music's Tommy Cooper and Frankie Howerd??? (Mark E Smith & John Lydon???) np massive attack - special cases ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 13:54:39 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Of lists... > Despite personal successes (Wire released an album, send, that saw us > equally lauded in the page of Entertainment Weekly and Artforum while swim > releases two albums, by Akatombo & Aurelie, that have had us tagged as "the > best label in the UK") Anyone heard the Aurelie album - what's it like? > leavened only by general silliness from The Darkness and Dizzee Rascal). reading those two lumped together has brightened my day no end!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 13:06:50 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Of lists... In a message dated 30/12/2003 13:53:42 GMT Standard Time, keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: > Anyone heard the Aurelie album - what's it like? > /////////is it really out? if so , they sneaked it out without much fanfare..........p ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 12:09:20 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] 1977 Punk Diary (Oi! Stop Ligging At The Bar & Get Down The Front!) >Nice one. Wire played the Red Cow on my birthday. Meanwhile I hung about at >the swings on the common IIRC! somehow, i don't think we needed to know that the list has its own michael jackson, however rehabilitated you might be ... dan >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Tim ****" >To: >Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 1:19 PM >Subject: [idealcopy] 1977 Punk Diary (Oi! Stop Ligging At The Bar & Get Down >The Front!) > > >> For those here that are interested? >> >> http://members.tripod.com/19775/77index/ >> >> Happy New Year & Kill Nostalgia :-) >> >> Tim >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Get less junk mail with ninemsn Premium. Click here >> http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 12:12:24 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Of lists... >> leavened only by general silliness from The Darkness and Dizzee Rascal). the latter album is *finally* due out over here in late january ... must admit i'm intrigued about what all the fuss is about. have already got it on order, along with the cure box set & the new mekons, both scheduled for release about the same time. dan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 20:56:42 +0100 From: "Jan J Noorda" Subject: [idealcopy] Of lists... Aurelie: Desde Que Naci' (WM25) Swim~ released it nearly the same time as the Akatombo release. Maybe Akotombo did get most of the attention. For me Aurelie is a perfect one to reveal yourself after hearing the Akotombo trace routes. Not because traceroutes should be bad. No it is a great album. It has much association for me with alienation, overcrowded cities, tension etc. in it and a dense sound. To cure for this is Aurelie great. A chill-out on a long warm, but strange soundscape. It is a nice album. If you like the Akotombo one, you wouldn't be disppointed by Aurelie, but more quiet. These are the Swim~ words for this release, but probably everyone of us has seen this already In autumn of 2001 two males, living almost precisely at the centre of England, decided upon the name aurelie to denote their collaboration. The word itself is a common girl's name on the continent and was chosen purely for its phonetic beauty rather than any inherent meaning. Their first project was a sike - a nine minute video of monochrome stills which juxtaposed the crumbling tenements of a Venetian Jewish ghetto against psychiatric units' sterile corridors and Orwellian seclusion rooms. Its musical accompaniment layered shimmering strings and falsetto choral lines over delay-drenched guitar and distended, crunching rhythms. The solitary human voice that seemed to reverberate around these marginal places as if in a wordless song of exile, is still present in aurelie's debut album desde que nacm. Though still elegiac, their newer work radiates a warmer, hope-tinged glow. As the title of "stateless" would suggest, aurelie's music (like that of their swim colleague Akotombo resonates with a feel of displacement as if they too were strangers in a strange land, made stranger by it being their place of birth. However desde que nacm is no study in alienation. In songs such as white sun descend and sea / sky / mountain aurelie seem to gaze upon the physical world with a kind of contentment. The hum of technological intervention, though never far off, does little to disrupt the music's organic ambience. Unseen landscapes roll past: sometimes as vast swathes of sound; sometimes as edgy, abrasive promontories. Although resolutely linear in structure, this record plays as a resolved whole - as if composed from varied observations of a single vista. Perhaps Desde Que Nacm is an entity in itself, discrete and enclosed. Or perhaps it is an horizontal sweep across terrain that aurelie are yet to explore. Either way this contemplative sonic work invites listening. Anyone heard the Aurelie album - what's it like? ////// is it really out? if so , they sneaked it out without much fanfare..........p ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 20:15:43 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] 1977 Punk Diary (Oi! Stop Ligging At The Bar & Get Down The Front!) > >Nice one. Wire played the Red Cow on my birthday. Meanwhile I hung about at > >the swings on the common IIRC! > > somehow, i don't think we needed to know that the list has its own michael > jackson, however rehabilitated you might be ... Oi!! It was where we teenagers hung out, so to speak! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 07:16:46 -0500 From: Ed Special Subject: [idealcopy] A Ding Dong Dandy New Year! Bozo, Butchie, Belinda and I wish you a Ding Dong Dandy New Year! http://www.sensoryresearch.com/~special/mp3/Bozo'sHappyNewYear.mp3 Ed Special ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:45:33 -0000 From: Alistair Tear Subject: RE: [idealcopy] 1977 Punk Diary (Oi! Stop Ligging At The Bar & Ge t Down The Front!) Yup, and Talking Heads released their first album on my birthday...took me a while to catch on to them tho' In the same vein, I recently picked up E Neubauten's 2 x cd live @ Anciennes Belgique Brussels 2000... I'd been playing it for a couple of weeks (it's excellent btw) before I noticed the actual date of the concert - 15.9.00 - -my 50th birthday...which is cool >>Last seen on the repeat of Grumpy Old Men. Anyone else here being told by their partner that it's like watching you on the telly? You too, Keith? ;-)) Happy New Year to everyone all the very best for ' 04 later A > > Nice one. Wire played the Red Cow on my birthday. Meanwhile I > hung about at > the swings on the common IIRC! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim ****" > To: > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 1:19 PM > Subject: [idealcopy] 1977 Punk Diary (Oi! Stop Ligging At The > Bar & Get Down > The Front!) > > > > For those here that are interested? > > > > http://members.tripod.com/19775/77index/ > > > > Happy New Year & Kill Nostalgia :-) > > > > Tim > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get less junk mail with ninemsn Premium. Click here > > http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.asp > ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Transport for London Street Management hereby excludes any warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of this e-mail and any attached transmitted files. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify postmaster@Streetmanagement.org.uk. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 12:27:00 -0000 From: Alistair Tear Subject: FW: [idealcopy] 1977 Punk Diary (Oi! Stop Ligging At The Bar & Ge t Down The Front!) - -----Original Message----- From: Alistair Tear Sent: 31 December 2003 10:46 To: 'Keith Astbury' Cc: Wire (E-mail) Subject: RE: [idealcopy] 1977 Punk Diary (Oi! Stop Ligging At The Bar & Get Down The Front!) Yup, and Talking Heads released their first album on my birthday...took me a while to catch on to them tho' In the same vein, I recently picked up E Neubauten's 2 x cd live @ Anciennes Belgique Brussels 2000... I'd been playing it for a couple of weeks (it's excellent btw) before I noticed the actual date of the concert - 15.9.00 - -my 50th birthday...which is cool >>Last seen on the repeat of Grumpy Old Men. Anyone else here being told by their partner that it's like watching you on the telly? You too, Keith? ;-)) Happy New Year to everyone all the very best for ' 04 later A > > Nice one. Wire played the Red Cow on my birthday. Meanwhile I > hung about at > the swings on the common IIRC! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim ****" > To: > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 1:19 PM > Subject: [idealcopy] 1977 Punk Diary (Oi! Stop Ligging At The > Bar & Get Down > The Front!) > > > > For those here that are interested? > > > > http://members.tripod.com/19775/77index/ > > > > Happy New Year & Kill Nostalgia :-) > > > > Tim > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get less junk mail with ninemsn Premium. 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This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ************************************************************************* <> [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type Image/jpeg which had a name of BackGrnd.jpg] [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of IMSTP.gif] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 12:07:25 +0000 From: "Jason Rogers" Subject: [idealcopy] RE: John Peel - Festive Fifty 2003/Christmas loot/Ramsey Campbell >Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 16:49:42 -0600 >From: "dan bailey" >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] RE: John Peel - Festive Fifty 2003/Christmas loot > >nah ... i've been reading him since picking up demons by daylight from >arkham house back in the mid-'70s -- de rigeur for anyone into lovecraftian >stuff, of course, since ramsey started out as just another hpl imitator >back >when he was a kid. > >can't say i've been much impressed by his most recent forays into >less-supernatural suspense, though. last thing of his i finished was >probably the one safe place (if i'm remembering the title correctly). i >don't think i made it halfway through nazareth hill, come to that. > I'm inclined to agree with you about Ramsey Campbell's later non-supernatural book. Ramsey Campbell's new novel is a return to supernatural horror, though. It's a strong read so far, but, with his books, you never really know until you get to the very end. Campbell's early Lovecraft-imitation stuff was quite good and The Darkest Part Of The Woods seems to be a return to that. Jason Now Playing: The Fall - "Recovery Kit" _________________________________________________________________ Enjoy a special introductory offer for dial-up Internet access  limited time only! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 01:18:14 +0000 From: "Jason Rogers" Subject: [idealcopy] The Fall - The Real New Fall LP (Formerly Country On The Click) I just picked up the new Fall album on the way home from work this afternoon. The album is a bit pricey here in the U.S., but I'm really enjoying my first couple of listens. I remember "Green Eyed Loco-Man" from the Atlanta show this summer, that show was one of my first introductions to The Fall; this new album is much more representative of the band's sound from that show than the earlier Fall albums that I've accrued this year (Live At The Witch Trials, Hex Enduction Hour, This Nation's Saving Grace, The Frenz Experiment, and Totally Wired: Rough Trade Anthology) and brings my opinion of the concert up a few notches. I'm too lazy to look up my Top Ten Albums Of 2003 list that I posted earlier this week, let alone change it, but Country On The Click is probably good enough to kick out one of the ten albums on that list. I'm 31 years of age and will probably not have enough time in my life to purchase all of the existing Fall albums, but my next purchases will probably be Bend Sinister and The Unutterable. Jason _________________________________________________________________ Have fun customizing MSN Messenger  learn how here! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_customize ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 21:36:47 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] FW: Predictions excellent, A. happy new year, folks!! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alistair Tear" To: "Wire (E-mail)" Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 12:36 PM Subject: [idealcopy] FW: Predictions > -----Original Message----- > From: Karen WILLIAMS [mailto:k@kjwilliams.fsnet.co.uk] > Sent: 31 December 2003 12:16 > To: alistairtear@streetmanagement.org.uk > Subject: Predictions > > > > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/leon.stringer/space-age-xmas.html > > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > IncrediMail - > Email has finally evolved - > Click Here > ************************************************************************* > The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are > addressed. 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