From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V6 #375 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Sunday, December 14 2003 Volume 06 : Number 375 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Mystique ["Clements, Bruno - BUP" ] [idealcopy] Hammill heart attack ["Clements, Bruno - BUP" ] Re: [idealcopy] This Heat - latest [MarkBursa@aol.com] [idealcopy] RE~TG [Ed Special ] [idealcopy] Rock Music and Political Change [Ed Special ] [idealcopy] O.T Civil rights [Ari Britt ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 09:40:33 -0000 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: [idealcopy] Mystique Yes, how we thrilled to discussions like: "Does Jimmy Page really worship the devil?" I seriously knew a guy in the mid-80s, who was then in his early 40s, who was convinced that Led Zep (or, at the very least Page and Plant) were linked into the whole occult thing. He probably still does... ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 09:50:22 -0000 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: [idealcopy] Hammill heart attack - -----Original Message----- From: Keith Knight [mailto:steeleknight@lineone.net] Peter Hammill had a heart attack last Sunday while walking by the Thames at Henly. He's been discharged from hospital and is fit enough to update his website (here, for the few who might be interested - http://www.sofasound.com/nlnow.htm ) He's stick thin and in his early 50s for Chrissake - although he does smoke heavily. Also news on the site, Bruno, that Virgin are about to remaster the VdGG back-catalogue - see, you just have to mention it... Another the Keith - ----Thinness, alas, seems to be no protection against heart attacks. A thin colleague of mine (a karate expert) suffered a fatal heart attack in his late 40s. He smoked heavily too. Beginning to spot a pattern? Good news on hte remastered Hammill CDs though... Bruno ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 02:26:51 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] The Cult of Graeme pt. 2.3 Tim wrote >Don't sit there waiting for Graeme to return and entertain you. Use your brain and post something interesting. Raise your game. You make the list what it is.< Why don't you kick it off then Tim,you've proved you can do it with your almost famous Graemesque posting of a couple of months ago.Asteroid! Ari New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:07:59 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Rough Trade Top 100 albums of 2003/White Tripe > 35 here...and an Aquarian....i like going for long walks in the woods...very > active lifestyle...healthy, non-smoker...with three cats... > > RL *Acheeeeew* That cats bit blew it for me -Bart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:52:11 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: CNN / musical math > CNN had 'best ideas of 2003' segment tonight, mentioning such as a > body glider, whereupon a person could jump out of a plane and glide ~200 > miles to whatever destination We'd still need a plane to use it. Since it's one of mankind's oldest dreams, how hard can it be to come up with a personal flying device thingie (solar-batteries incl). My appartment is on the 3rd floor and I'd very much like to simply take off from the loggia. Bart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:57:03 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Rough Trade Top 100 albums of 2003/White Tripe > > 35 here...and an Aquarian....i like going for long walks in the woods...very > > active lifestyle...healthy, non-smoker...with three cats... > > > > RL > > > *Acheeeeew* That cats bit blew it for me -Bart I thought Robert had made up a new verse to Float On ; ) Keith. Libran. Bit of a stiff neck, slept funny the other night. No pun intended, love. Float On... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:27:31 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Rough Trade Top 100 albums of 2003/White Tripe In a message dated 12/13/03 5:10:07 AM Central Standard Time, bartvandamme@home.nl writes: > >35 here...and an Aquarian....i like going for long walks in the > woods...very > >active lifestyle...healthy, non-smoker...with three cats... > > > >RL > > > *Acheeeeew* That cats bit blew it for me -Bart > damn! you were the one i wuz fishin' for...back to the drawing board RL ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 10:29:48 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Rough Trade Top 100 albums of 2003/White Tripe In a message dated 12/13/03 6:51:06 AM Central Standard Time, keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: > I thought Robert had made up a new verse to Float On ; ) > > Keith. Libran. Bit of a stiff neck, slept funny the other night. No pun > intended, love. > Float On... > hahhahaha glad you remember that classic song..do you remember Cheech & Chong's version of it? ... "Bloat On"....although i much preferred "Earache My Eye" by Alice Bowie RL ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 17:29:10 -0000 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: [idealcopy] This Heat - latest [Clements, Bruno - BUP] Ah, to be able to listen to the second This Heat LP again... It's almost worth getting a new stylus for! You could always buy a copy of the fabulous remastered Deceit from the nice people at These Records. Only a tenner. One day they'll sort out the remaster of Blue & Yellow. However dealing wioth the surviving members of TH is, er, challenging. TH fans might be interested in Charles Hayward's new album Abracadabra Information, available from Recommended Records, which is his best in ages. Features the two songs he played at last year's Gareth Williams tribute concert (which Wire headlined). Mark Latest from These Records re the This Heat albums is this -- both will be available soon, great news for oldies and those yet to discover them. Bruno THIS HEAT This Heat this 1CD (formerly Heat 1 CD) OUT OF PRESS the 1988 vinyl version and 1991 mastering of the compact disc have been long unavailable a re-mastered and re-packaged CD version is being prepared for release. there are no plans as yet for a vinyl re-issue THIS HEAT Deceit this 2 CD (formerly Heat 2 CD) OUT OF PRESS re-mastered and re-packaged in 2001. due to be re-pressed soon after This 1 re-issue as with the first album, there are no plans for a vinyl version as yet ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 12:49:06 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] the bears this is the write up for a bears single someone is flogging on ebay ; Info: Formed by ex Wire guitarist George Gill The Bears were one of the first bands on the emerging Watford punk scene in the Christmas of 1976. Originally a wacky punk band called Smarter & The Average Bears they sang about dodgems and other zany things. The rest of the band comprised Kris Kershaw (again ex Wire), Ron West - Bass guitar, Cally Cameron - Drums and Mick North on Vocals. They were that little bit different. Like Wire they went in for minimalist song riffs but unlike Wire clearly had a sense of humour and the absurd. Take a look at Fun, Fun Fun their contribution to Farewell To The Roxy about dropping bags of flour off tower blocks on peoples heads and compare it to the other songs about snipers, getting yourself killed, living in a car and so on. While building up a following disaster struck in September 1977 when vocalist Mick North and friend Keith Perspex (of the band Paper Dollies) were killed on his motorbike. As if that wasn't enough it was reported in Sounds in January 1978 that George Gill and girlfriend was beaten up by hooligans because they were punks. Continuing as a four piece playing places like the Roxy they finally recruited a new singer in the shape of John Entrails (again ex of Paper Dollies) in mid 1978 and released their debut single gaining a record of the week in Sounds. And then within three months the band nearly split up. In Sounds 19.8.78 The Bears were reported as splitting with Cally And Ron leaving to form The Screaming Ab Dabs and George reportedly as having "no plans for the future, but he is unlikely to continue playing music." Cally and Ron in fact formed The Tea Set releasing the Cups And Saucers Ep. The next week in Sounds it was revealed The Bears were carrying on. George and John remained but were joined by Ritchie on Drums, Sissy on Sax, John on Harmonica and Mystery Man on Bass. In November 1978 they released arguably their best single Insane on Good Vibrations records and that was it. The Bears suffered from infrequent recordings, line up changes and personal disasters which is a shame because they were a bit special and should have had more success. Punk wasn't all about anger and shouting and The Bears showed some real individuality" hmm , what can you say? anyone who's actually heard the bears will have a good snigger at much of the above.......p ///i / /// ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 00:55:31 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Mojo > And.... MOJO has made 'Send' no.10 in its Top 50 LPs of the year: > This is indeed excellent news. It's got to be worth a few sales! I was starting to think it was gonna be ignored in all the end of yr lists. Keith PS The newwavephotos link that Mark M sent in is worth a look if you haven't already checked it out... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 20:45:57 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] This Heat - latest > >>Latest from These Records re the This Heat albums is this -- both will be > available soon, great news for oldies and those yet to discover them. << > > Don't hold your breath. I visit These quite regularly and the reissues are > bogged down in politics. Basically Bullen & Hayward don't speak, and won't > agree on anything. Williams was the mediator - he ensured Deceit came out. Then > he died. It'll happen eventually - AFAIK the mastering is done. But they > can't agree about (wait for it) the cover. If you know the album, you'll know how > absurd this is... Also Deceit on CD may be available - I'd ring up rather > than trust the These website. They've certainly repressed it at least once > since '01. > Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 21:26:01 -0500 From: Ed Special Subject: [idealcopy] RE~TG http://www.mute.com/tg/retg.html http://www.mute.com/tg/retg2.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 21:37:55 -0500 From: Ed Special Subject: [idealcopy] Rock Music and Political Change CSPAN 09:22 pm, EST 90 minutes Rock Music and Political Change Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Cleveland, Ohio (United States) Simonyi, Andras , Ambassador, Hungary, United States The Hungarian ambassador to the U.S. spoke at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame about the role of rock music in political change, specifically in Eastern Europe during the Cold War ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 21:46:24 -0500 From: Ed Special Subject: [idealcopy] Update: Rock Music and Political Change Rock Music and Political Change re-broadcast later . . . Update: CSPAN 1:27 am 90 minutes Speech Rock Music and Political Change Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Andras Simonyi , Hungary CSPAN 2:55 am 75 minutes Forum The Onion Political Humor Nation, The Institute Eric Alterman ,Nation, The Carol Kolb ,Onion, The http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/fullschedule.csp Ed ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 22:58:01 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Mojo Keith Astbury wrote: >PS The newwavephotos link that Mark M sent in is worth a look if you haven't already checked it out...< does anyone still have this link,I deleted by mistake.Ari New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 23:05:20 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] O.T Civil rights If any of our American listees has friends/relatives that were involved in the Civil Rights movement please go here.Ari http://www.voicesofcivilrights.org/ New Yahoo! 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