From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V6 #366 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Tuesday, December 9 2003 Volume 06 : Number 366 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] Song Sung Pink ["Keith Astbury" ] [idealcopy] Annual Recommendations [Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Song Sung Pink > well, i *do* own his greatest-hits lp (a double, i think), having shelled > out the princely sum of $1 or so for it ... i must admit to liking quite a > few of his late-'60s/early '70s smashes. probably something to do with the > state of radio as heard in rural arkansas at that time. > > dan Well yeah, he made some more-than-half-decent-pop-records many years ago. But top 25 LP's of all time. Still, each to his own and all that. I basically sent the top 25 I worked out last year as I couldn't be bothered doing another, but with one newcomer, last years Neon Golden by the Notwist, which I love to pieces. Keith np ocsid - inbetween (received a bumper package from those WMO folk today) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 05:56:31 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Song Sung Pink >> well, i *do* own his greatest-hits lp (a double, i think), having shelled >> out the princely sum of $1 or so for it ... i must admit to liking quite a >> few of his late-'60s/early '70s smashes. probably something to do with the >> state of radio as heard in rural arkansas at that time. >> >> dan > >Well yeah, he made some more-than-half-decent-pop-records many years ago. >But top 25 LP's of all time. Still, each to his own and all that. true enough. *maybe* top 25 *hundred* ... *probably* top 25 *thousand* ... dan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 12:11:38 +0000 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: [idealcopy] Annual Recommendations It's probably that time of year again. What albums have grabbed your attention this year? Time to fill out those Christmas lists... I'll get us going; apart from the 10 I mentioned on my blog, I'll restrict this to the ones likely of interest to people on this list. Seems pointless to plug stuff like the Wire album too; there's plenty of other stuff I've enjoyed, but it's not really in context here. Electronica (and this is totally biased, but so am I): Ulrich Schnauss - "A Strangely Isolated Place" M83 - "Lost Cities, Red Seas and Dead Souls" Posthuman - "Lagrange Point" Four Tet - "Rounds" (doing the coffee-table circuit as we speak, sadly) Featuring Guitars: British Sea Power - "the Decline of British Sea Power" Clearlake - "Cedars" Broken Social Scene - "You Forgot It In People" Yo La Tengo - "Summer Sun" Mogwai, inevitably, but I'm a rationality-suspended fan Aereogramme - "Sleep and Release" (though this is kind of a guilty pleasure: they're certainly not shy of their Anthemic Rock Moves at times) Compilations: Worlds of Possibility (Domino Records) Branches and Routes (Fat Cat) Out of Our Heads on Skelp (Chemikal Underground) Particularly looking forward to the Mice Parade and Magnificents records in early 2003; the latter of which I have a promo of, and it's *very* good (not all-world; but interesting at least). Also, Franz Ferdinand, McLusky, the second Ikara Colt record... - - A (who had to interview Simple Minds' support act yesterday. They were less bad than Kerr's mob, at least. I feel unclean.) - -- email: andrew@lexical.org.uk http://www.lexical.org.uk/ Earth Sciences, University of Cambridge http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ DJ, CUR1350 - http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ blog: http://www.lexical.org.uk/blog/ "The Random Walk", 10pm Fridays | "... and now I couldn't sleep!" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 13:33:47 +0000 From: "ian s jackson" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Annual Recommendations i've been buying an awful lot of old stuff for 5 or 6 quid lately... but of the ones released this year...and they're hardly 'radical' i know... Terry Hall & Mushtaq - The Hour Of Two Lights (and if this one doesn't get a Mercury nomination...) The Strokes - Room On Fire Various - Domino 'Worlds Of Possibility' Dizzee Rascal - Boy In Da Corner The Shins - Chute's Too Narrow Bonnie Prince Billy - Master And Everyone (this WAS this year, wasn't it...??? its been a long year...) Half Man Half Biscuit - Saucy Haulage Ballads do the re-released Television LP's count...??? well, if so, them too then... i'll be unsubbing in a week or so, for 3 weeks holiday on the sub-continent...so i'd like to wish everyone as pleasant a Xmas and New Year as you can possibly manage...i've opted out for this year. love, peace and harmony kids...everybody loves a history...ian.s.j. >From: Andrew Walkingshaw >To: idealcopy@smoe.org >Subject: [idealcopy] Annual Recommendations >Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 12:11:38 +0000 > >It's probably that time of year again. What albums have grabbed your >attention this year? Time to fill out those Christmas lists... > >I'll get us going; apart from the 10 I mentioned on my blog, I'll >restrict this to the ones likely of interest to people on this list. >Seems pointless to plug stuff like the Wire album too; there's plenty >of other stuff I've enjoyed, but it's not really in context here. > >Electronica (and this is totally biased, but so am I): > >Ulrich Schnauss - "A Strangely Isolated Place" >M83 - "Lost Cities, Red Seas and Dead Souls" >Posthuman - "Lagrange Point" >Four Tet - "Rounds" (doing the coffee-table circuit as we speak, sadly) > >Featuring Guitars: > >British Sea Power - "the Decline of British Sea Power" >Clearlake - "Cedars" >Broken Social Scene - "You Forgot It In People" >Yo La Tengo - "Summer Sun" >Mogwai, inevitably, but I'm a rationality-suspended fan >Aereogramme - "Sleep and Release" (though this is kind of a guilty >pleasure: >they're certainly not shy of their Anthemic Rock Moves at times) > >Compilations: > >Worlds of Possibility (Domino Records) >Branches and Routes (Fat Cat) >Out of Our Heads on Skelp (Chemikal Underground) > >Particularly looking forward to the Mice Parade and Magnificents >records in early 2003; the latter of which I have a promo of, and it's >*very* good (not all-world; but interesting at least). Also, Franz >Ferdinand, McLusky, the second Ikara Colt record... > >- A (who had to interview Simple Minds' support act yesterday. They were >less bad than Kerr's mob, at least. I feel unclean.) > >-- >email: andrew@lexical.org.uk >http://www.lexical.org.uk/ >Earth Sciences, University of Cambridge >http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ >DJ, CUR1350 - http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ blog: >http://www.lexical.org.uk/blog/ >"The Random Walk", 10pm Fridays | "... and now I couldn't sleep!" _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 08:04:27 -0600 From: "Jack Alberson" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Rough Trade Top 100 albums of 2003/White Tripe I rather like being the only person on Earth who loathes the White Stripes (though Meg White is a fox). It's an absolute shame Send didn't crack the top ten. Jack L. Alberson Property Administrator CB Richard Ellis First Tennessee Building 165 Madison Avenue Memphis, TN 38103 (901) 521-1748 For those who like this sort of thing, Rough Trade Shops has posted its Top 100 albums of the year here http://www.roughtrade.com/ No Send, mind. The Top 10 are here - mygod, I've got four of these and intend to get another. Another the Keith 1 belle and sebastian dear catastrophe waitress 2 outkast speakerboxx / the love below 3 sufjan stevens michigan 4 the white stripes elephant 5 king creosote kenny and beth's musikal boat rides 6 bonnie prince billy master and everyone 7 cat power you are free 8 smog supper 9 the broken family band cold water songs 10 willis come get some ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 10:07:25 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Rough Trade Top 100 albums of 2003/White Tripe In a message dated 12/8/03 8:11:15 AM Central Standard Time, jalberson@firsttennesseebuilding.com writes: > I rather like being the only person on Earth who loathes the White > Stripes (though Meg White is a fox). > > It's an absolute shame Send didn't crack the top ten. > > Jack L. Alberson i'm sorry Jack...you'll have to get in line...i professed my hatred months and months and months ago..... throw the Vines and the Strokes in there as well... RL np - Throbbing Gristle - Heathen Earth ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:12:10 -0600 From: "Jack Alberson" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Rough Trade Top 100 albums of 2003/White Tripe Lovely! I'll gladly get in line if it means there's more than one person hating their overrated rubbish! (I risk all credibility in saying I like the Strokes) i'm sorry Jack...you'll have to get in line...i professed my hatred months and months and months ago..... throw the Vines and the Strokes in there as well... RL np - Throbbing Gristle - Heathen Earth ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 12:04:18 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] O.T:from todays N.Y Times A New Use for a CD's Flip SideBy CHRIS NELSON Published: December 8, 2003 he days of buying concert videos and their accompanying soundtracks separately could soon be on the wane. OneDisc Technologies of Dallas is in talks with major and independent labels to begin making a combination single-disc product that plays DVD video on one side and CD audio on the other, the company's president, James Wilson, said. Advertisement A combination disc from the singer-songwriter Kathleen Edwards, "Live From the Bowery Ballroom" on Rounder Records, is already in stores. One side includes three songs that play in a standard CD player, while the flip side features two DVD music videos. OneDisc owns a license for the technology involved. For years, artists have included video footage on enhanced music CD's, but that video, viewable on a computer as a CD-ROM, does not have the same playback quality of DVD's. More recently, record labels have been bundling bonus DVD's with traditional CD's to entice music fans to buy albums rather than illegally downloading or copying them. Those packages include two separate discs, one for audio content and other for video. "The problem here, in general for the music industry, is that the value of the piece of plastic that has the music on it is going down," Josh Bernoff, a principal analyst with Forrester Research, said. If the industry adopts the new format, Mr. Wilson said, he envisions music fans being able to buy, for instance, The Band's "The Last Waltz" and getting both the film documentary and soundtrack album on double-sided disc, rather than having to pay for a DVD and a separate CD. Ms. Edwards's release is not the first combined CD-DVD. The technology was developed by Warner Brothers and is now owned by Germany's DVD Plus International Inc., Mr. Wilson said. More than 70 combination titles have been released, mostly outside the United States, according to the DVD Plus Web site. Early versions of the format were too thick for indash car CD players, but that problem has since been corrected, Mr. Wilson said. OneDisc is an American marketer for the DVD Plus technology. "Live From the Bowery Ballroom" is being sold at Tower Records and several independent stores for about $5.99, Paul Foley, the general manager of Rounder, said. Since its release in November, the set has sold about 600 copies of the 8,000 made, according to Nielsen SoundScan. Save 50% off home delivery of The Times np:Morphine,The Night New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:58:08 EST From: Tisbili@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] a deluge of gigs In a message dated 12/4/2003 10:28:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, alistairtear@streetmanagement.org.uk writes: > Tues 9th > Terry Hall > Wow...he's still out and about. I remember some great live tracks from the colorfield days. Always a favorite of mine, but the tends to drop off the radar a lot, particularly in the states. Has he had a release here since FB3? Mostly everything I have since then is import stuff. bill e =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- rp - wilco summer teeth; earth wind & fire greatest hits; minutemen double nickels on the dime ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 01:04:53 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Rough Trade Top 100 albums of 2003/White Tripe >Lovely! I'll gladly get in line if it means there's more than one >person hating their overrated rubbish! > >(I risk all credibility in saying I like the Strokes) as do i -- their first lp, anyway. the new one hasn't penetrated my calloused eardrums yet. neither has the white stripes' ... whom i also like. so it goes. dan > > >i'm sorry Jack...you'll have to get in line...i professed my hatred >months >and months and months ago..... > >throw the Vines and the Strokes in there as well... > >RL >np - Throbbing Gristle - Heathen Earth ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 10:10:01 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] how he wrote elastica man >> (I risk all credibility in saying I like the Strokes) > as do i -- their first lp, anyway. the new one hasn't penetrated my > calloused eardrums yet. neither has the white stripes' ... whom i also like. > so it goes. I like both in the same way as Elastica. In the car yesterday I played their first album (still a fine and energetic record imo and produced way better than the Strokes' debut) for the first time since Strokes/Stripes appeared. Lots os similarities especially between Strokes and Elastica. I think Miss Frischman would be wise to launch a third while the spirit of 1980 is still in the air. Bart ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V6 #366 *******************************