From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V6 #360 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Wednesday, December 3 2003 Volume 06 : Number 360 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] coffee + tv [Bart van Damme ] RE: [idealcopy] Let It Be Wired ["Clements, Bruno - BUP" ] way, way OT - UK history (was Re: [idealcopy] class...) [Andrew Walkingsh] Re: way, way OT - UK history (was Re: [idealcopy] class...) [P J Kane ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:26:41 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] coffee + tv >> I'll sign the Blur-just-ain't-Blur-without-Graham-Coxon-petition any time. > Well yeah...that's what I thought. > EXCEPT Think Tank is the best Blur album since Modern Life is Rubbish IMHO. [bit late - sorry] Still too early for me to really rate Think Tank properly, but for the moment I like the Gorillaz album better. There're great tunes on various Blur albums, but I guess their Blur album is my fave as a whole. -Bart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:44:25 -0000 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Let It Be Wired - ----- Original Message ----- From: Clements, Bruno - BUP > Don't keep us in suspense - where's the shop! > > Bargain hunter Bruno > Jumbo Records in Leeds - but it's mine, I say, all mine! - ---No problem - I've never been to Leeds, but my brother goes occasionally so I'll tip him off!!! ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. 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Don't you just hate it! >> actually, yeah i do hate it. but i gotta ask: Wales was, at one point in time, an independent country with it's own government and the like, right? and yes, i know this makes me look like an ignorant schmuck, but for the most part the history of the British Isles is glossed over in American Schools. i ask because i live in the South, surrounded by people who have a deep and abiding "ethnic" pride in a country that never really got started.... no, i don't really understand nationalism myself.... PJK please don't hate me because i can't type..... - --- All the cool kids are doing it: HTTP://www.EvilSponge.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:14:16 +0000 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: way, way OT - UK history (was Re: [idealcopy] class...) On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 12:58:43PM +0000, P J Kane wrote: > actually, yeah i do hate it. but i gotta ask: Wales was, at one > point in time, an independent country with it's own government and > the like, right? and yes, i know this makes me look like an > ignorant schmuck, but for the most part the history of the British > Isles is glossed over in American Schools. Yeah, but we're talking just under a thousand years ago; in practice, Wales was annexed by England in 1284 (the Statute of Rhuddlan) or thereabuts. The merger of Scotland and England had to wait until the 1707 Act of Union. - - Andrew - -- home - email: andrew@lexical.org.uk http://www.lexical.org.uk/ work - email: adw27@esc.cam.ac.uk http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ radio: http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ (10pm Fri) http://www.lexical.org.uk/blog/ "/Peep/". 'Yes?' "More cooookiessssss..." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:36:46 GMT From: P J Kane Subject: Re: way, way OT - UK history (was Re: [idealcopy] class...) << Yeah, but we're talking just under a thousand years ago; in practice, Wales was annexed by England in 1284 (the Statute of Rhuddlan) or thereabuts. The merger of Scotland and England had to wait until the 1707 Act of Union. >> thanks for the school info mr. Walkingshaw. at any rate, this still makes beign "Welsh" a more meaningful term than being "Southern". the Confederate States was not a country for any length of time that it wasn't at war. such things do not, in my mind, an ethnicity make. but then again, i do not understand the whole "southern pride" thing at all, even after living here for 20 years at this point.... PJK another generic midwesterner -- orig. from central Ohio. please don't hate me because i can't type..... - --- All the cool kids are doing it: HTTP://www.EvilSponge.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 14:45:53 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT] we say yes - we say no >> I've spotted Olias of Sunhillow for a fiver in Fopp and although I'm not >> adverse to splashing out occasionally on reasonably-priced nostalgia >> trips at that shop (which must explain my recent acquisition of >> Aqualung) I'd have to be very drunk to hand over money for Jon >> Anderson's folly. > I've just realised that you might have meant the other Anderson's Aqualung > and not the band of the same name. > Oh my god, Keith. Would you like to talk about it??? >> It was crap then and I suspect it's crap now (and I >> can listen to Fragile and Close to the Edge without too much >> embarrassment... > Something tells me I wouldn't like it after all ; ) > Keith (who owns - somewhere! - Yes Album and Going For The One, and who > liked And You & I many yrs ago) Read the beneath and be cured for ever. It's enough to make one long for Cranberries lyrics! German artist Martin Kippenberger (with Achim Kubinski) made a great piece called "Beuys Best" (Ja Ja Ja, Nee Nee Nee - that's: Yes Yes Yes, No No No) http://old.thing.net/html/kippi.html - -Bart n.d: a nice cup of tea ================================= Tales From Topographic Oceans The Revealing Science of God Shrutis: The Revealing Science of God can be seen as an ever-opening flower in which simple truths emerge examining the complexities and magic of the past and how we should not forget the song that has been left to us to hear. The knowledge of God is a search, constant and clear. Dawn of light lying between a silence and sold sources, Chased amid fusions of wonder, in moments hardly seen forgotten, Coloured in pastures of chance dancing leaves cast spells of challenge, Amused but real in thought, we fled from the sea whole. Dawn of thought transfered through moments of days undersearching earth Revealing corridors of time provoking memories, disjointed but with purpose, Craving penetrations offer links with the self instructors sharp And tender love as we took to the air, a picture of distance. Dawn of our power we amuse redescending as fast as misused Expression, as only to teach love as to reveal passion chasing Late into corners, and we danced from the ocean. Dawn of love sent within us colours of awakening among the many Won't to follow, only tunes of a different age. As the links span our endless caresses for the freedom of life everlasting. Talk to the sunlight caller Soft summer mover distance mine. Called out a tune but I never saw the face Heard but not replaced I ventured to talk, but I never lost my place Cast out a spell rendered for the light of day Lost in lights array I ventured to see, as the sound began to play What happened to this song we once knew so well Signed promise for moments caught within the spell I must have waited all my life for this Moment moment The future poised with the splendour just begun The light we were as one And crowded through the curtains of liquid into sun And for a moment when our world had filled the skies Magic turned our eyes To feast on the treasure set for our strange device What happened to wonders we once knew so well Did we forget what happened surely we can tell We must have waited all our lives for this Moment moment moment Starlight, movement, reasons Release forward Tallest rainbow Sun shower seasons Life flower reasons They move fast, they tell me, But I just can't believe that I can feel it There's someone to tell you, Amid the challenge we look around in unison with you Getting over overhanging trees Let them rape the forest Thoughts would send our fusion Clearly to be home Getting over wars we do not mean Or so it seems so clearly Sheltered with our passion Clearly to be home They move fast, they tell me, But I just can't believe they really mean to There's someone, to tell you, And I just can't believe our song will leave you Skyline teacher Warland seeker Send out poison Cast iron leader And through the rhythm of moving slowly Sent through the rhythm work out the story Move over glory to sons of old fighters past. Young christians see it from the beginning Old people feel it, that's what they're saying. Move over glory to sons of old fighters past. They move fast, they tell me, But I just can't believe they really mean to. There's someone, to tell you A course towards a universal season. Getting over overhanging trees Let them rape the forest They might stand and leave them Clearly to be home Getting over wars we do not mean We charm the movement suffers Call out all our memories Clearly to be home We've moved fast We need love A part we offer is our only freedom What happened to this song we once knew so well Signed promise for moments caught within the spell We must have waited all our lives for this Moment moment Past present movers moments we'll process the future, but only through him we know, send flowered rainbows Apiece apart chased flowers of the dark and lights of songs to follow and show all we feel for and know of Cast round You seekers of the truth accepting that reason will relive and breath and hope and chase and love For you and you and you. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:36:05 -0000 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: RE: way, way OT - UK history (was Re: [idealcopy] class...) - -----Original Message----- From: P J Kane [mailto:postlibyan@netzero.com] Sent: 02 December 2003 13:37 To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: way, way OT - UK history (was Re: [idealcopy] class...) << Yeah, but we're talking just under a thousand years ago; in practice, Wales was annexed by England in 1284 (the Statute of Rhuddlan) or thereabuts. The merger of Scotland and England had to wait until the 1707 Act of Union. >> thanks for the school info mr. Walkingshaw. at any rate, this still makes beign "Welsh" a more meaningful term than being "Southern". the Confederate States was not a country for any length of time that it wasn't at war. such things do not, in my mind, an ethnicity make. but then again, i do not understand the whole "southern pride" thing at all, even after living here for 20 years at this point.... PJK another generic midwesterner -- orig. from central Ohio. - -- SO NO doubt you'd be even more incredulous at the idiots who drive around the UK with Confederate flags on their car! Most of them haven't been further south than Bognor, I suspect... Mind you, there are fewer about than there were five or ten years ago! Bruno ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:59:19 +0100 From: "Jan J Noorda" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] The Sound BBC Recordings Where are they better in? Probably not in playing encores. I did see the Sound once in Groningen in a park. 1981. After their 7 encores they didn't know to play which track anymore. Adrian started Transmission. It was huge. They were probably the only band who perfomed the Hollanditis feeling the best. In other words if the US starts a war against USSR, we are the battlefield. No for me are the Sound more then Com-Sat Angels. > >Fans of The Sound may be interested in this.. > > yeah...but they were never as good as The Com-Sat Angels...pulls tongues at > KeithA...hahaha... > > ian.s.j. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:15:45 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: way, way OT - UK history (was Re: [idealcopy] class...) In a message dated 12/2/03 7:43:48 AM Central Standard Time, postlibyan@netzero.com writes: > PJK > another generic midwesterner -- orig. from central Ohio. "generic" what makes us generic? because we get all the latest "hip" fashions from NYC and LA last?...who cares? what's wrong with having pride with where you're from? people always want to be from somewhere else...it's always better over THERE.....i am from smack dab in the middle of the USA in good ol' St. Louis, Missouri and i love it.....the pace and the people suit me just fine.. RL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:16:57 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: way, way OT - UK history (was Re: [idealcopy] class...) In a message dated 12/2/03 8:44:50 AM Central Standard Time, B.Clements@bepp.co.uk writes: > - SO NO doubt you'd be even more incredulous at the idiots who drive around > the UK with Confederate flags on their car! you must be kidding... RL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:25:13 GMT From: P J Kane Subject: RE: way, way OT - UK history (was Re: [idealcopy] class...) << SO NO doubt you'd be even more incredulous at the idiots who drive around the UK with Confederate flags on their car! >> surely you jest! << Most of them haven't been further south than Bognor, I suspect... >> perhaps they are refugees. no, seriously, some Confederates fled after their re-conquest. a whole slew emigrated to Brazil and are called "Confederados" down there. look here for more info: http://patsabin.com/lowcountry/confederados.htm it makes sense to me that some of the refugees would have also fled to The Mother Country, ie, the UK. << Mind you, there are fewer about than there were five or ten years ago! >> does that mean they are done lingering to a silly, made up and very brief ethnicity and instead are being absorbed into a larger culture? god, i wish that would happen here! if i see one more "save the flag" protestor i may hit them with my car! PJK please don't hate me because i can't type..... - --- All the cool kids are doing it: HTTP://www.EvilSponge.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:32:06 -0000 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: RE: way, way OT - UK history (was Re: [idealcopy] class...) - -----Original Message----- From: RLynn9@aol.com [mailto:RLynn9@aol.com] Sent: 02 December 2003 15:17 To: B.Clements@bepp.co.uk; idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: way, way OT - UK history (was Re: [idealcopy] class...) In a message dated 12/2/03 8:44:50 AM Central Standard Time, B.Clements@bepp.co.uk writes: > - SO NO doubt you'd be even more incredulous at the idiots who drive around > the UK with Confederate flags on their car! you must be kidding... RL Er, no. I've seen pix of Lemmy (Motorhead) wearing a Confederate badge too! Bruno ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:35:25 GMT From: P J Kane Subject: Re: way, way OT - UK history (was Re: [idealcopy] class...) << "generic" what makes us generic? >> perhaps i meant "ubiquitous". i was implying that the bulk of Americans are from the "boring parts". no offense meant, although i appear to have hit a nerve... << what's wrong with having pride with where you're from? >> hmmm. well, personally i think it is silly. i mean, how far do you want to divide things? why not be Proud to Be: from Earth North American American from the Old Northwest from the Ohio Valley from the State of Ohio from the Appleseed Valley from Richland County from the Village of Lexington, OH from Oxford Road in the Village of..... from 285 Oxford Road in the Village of .... i mean, WHY do people pick one thing and act "proud" about it? and why does "pride" usually mean acting like an ass when your College Team wins something, and getting in shouting matches with people who say "Boy i was in the Village of Lexington, OH, and i was bored out of my shirt"? << people always want to be from somewhere else... >> really? that's just plain silly -- you are FROM a particular area, and barring Time Travel you cannot change that. you can, however, choose to LIVE somewhere else.... << it's always better over THERE..... >> then move. << i am from smack dab in the middle of the USA in good ol' St. Louis, Missouri and i love it.....the pace and the people suit me just fine.. >> i have never been there, but i have some friends in the band Potomac Accord from there, and they seem to love it. PJK proud to be a citizen of the Milky Way Galaxy! please don't hate me because i can't type..... - --- All the cool kids are doing it: HTTP://www.EvilSponge.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:13:38 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: way, way OT - UK history (was Re: [idealcopy] class...) In a message dated 12/2/03 9:39:55 AM Central Standard Time, postlibyan@netzero.com writes: > perhaps i meant "ubiquitous". i was implying that the bulk of Americans are > from the "boring parts". no offense meant, although i appear to have hit a > nerve... being "depends" on your point of view...i was more bored in Los Angeles then i have ever been in St.Louis or Chicago.. RL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 18:34:01 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: way, way OT - UK history (was Re: [idealcopy] class...) And the other the month you told us you really wanted to move elsewhere (to the UK or such). Pod-from-outer-space, what did you do with our poor ol' Robert? Bart > people always want to be from somewhere else...it's always better > over THERE.....i am from smack dab in the middle of the USA in good ol' St. > Louis, Missouri and i love it.....the pace and the people suit me just fine.. > RL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:48:24 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: way, way OT - UK history (was Re: [idealcopy] class...) In a message dated 12/2/03 11:45:48 AM Central Standard Time, bartvandamme@home.nl writes: > And the other the month you told us you really wanted to move elsewhere > (to the UK or such). Pod-from-outer-space, what did you do with our > poor ol' Robert? > > Bart i did? no..i might have been moaning about all the great shows you guys get to go to in Europe....i've had chances to move to Chicago (i lived there for a while) , NYC, LA, and Sydney.... decided against it.. RL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:50:40 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Fw: Fw: [idealcopy] 3GirlRumba VideoClip by Klonhertz sent the video link on and got this.. > > Thanx for the link. Even Sarah Cox has been playing Klonhertz on the Radio > One Breakfast Show (I bet most people thought it was an Elastica cover?!). > > Really like it! We thought it might happen with The 15th last year, but could we, FINALLY, see a Wire track in the higher reaches of the charts???? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:22:56 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: way, way OT - UK history (was Re: [idealcopy] class...) > > actually, yeah i do hate it. but i gotta ask: Wales was, at one > > point in time, an independent country with it's own government and > > the like, right? and yes, i know this makes me look like an > > ignorant schmuck, but for the most part the history of the British > > Isles is glossed over in American Schools. Whereas we were taught about the American War of Independence at length. It's a very British thing that we should be taught about a war where 'we' were defeated! > Yeah, but we're talking just under a thousand years ago; in practice, Wales > was annexed by England in 1284 (the Statute of Rhuddlan) or thereabuts. > The merger of Scotland and England had to wait until the 1707 Act of Union. Though there is now a National Assembly in Wales (and Scotland). I like being Welsh and I support them when it comes to football, but it's also a difficult one when you can't speak the language (and I can't). Being made to feel a like a second class citizen in your own country for not speaking it - and I have been - is little less than racism. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:42:29 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: [idealcopy] 3GirlRumba VideoClip by Klonhertz The Klonhertz version is used as the link music on C4's new music slot on Wednesday night - in between each show, every ad break etc. ANd the single was advertised in the NME last week.... Royalties wa-hey! Mark ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 01:59:37 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: way, way OT - UK history (was Re: [idealcopy] class...) >> > actually, yeah i do hate it. but i gotta ask: Wales was, at one >> > point in time, an independent country with it's own government and >> > the like, right? and yes, i know this makes me look like an >> > ignorant schmuck, but for the most part the history of the British >> > Isles is glossed over in American Schools. > >Whereas we were taught about the American War of Independence at length. >It's a very British thing that we should be taught about a war where 'we' >were defeated! makes me wonder just how (in)completely kids these days are taught iin u.s. classrooms about the debacle that was the vietnam war ... >I like being Welsh and I support them when it comes to football, but it's >also a difficult one when you can't speak the language (and I can't). Being >made to feel a like a second class citizen in your own country for not >speaking it - and I have been - is little less than racism. which raises the question of just how fluent transplanted midwesterner mr kane is in southern. were flash-card drills on "tump," "all stove up" (which expression my lifelong-alabaman girlfriend didn't know when i used it earlier this year, even though i do believe it appears in one of my favorite movies ever, slingblade, shot about 20 miles from little rock with central arkansan billy bob thornton at the helm), "slanchwise," "the war against northern aggression," "ovair," "rat cheer," "yay long," etc entailed before he was accorded citizenship in the latterday confederacy? dan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:50:44 +0000 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: [idealcopy] 3GirlRumba VideoClip by Klonhertz On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 01:42:29PM -0500, MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: > The Klonhertz version is used as the link music on C4's new music slot on > Wednesday night - in between each show, every ad break etc. ANd the single was > advertised in the NME last week.... > > Royalties wa-hey! :-) Anyone know what the PRS payments are like for those slots? Presumably fairly substantial, and I'd rather see Wire highly profitable than not. (I'm sure every war documentary recently has been using "Pink Flag" and "Reuters": they must be fashionable in meeja circles.) - - Andrew - -- email: andrew@lexical.org.uk http://www.lexical.org.uk/ Earth Sciences, University of Cambridge http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ DJ, CUR1350 - http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ blog: http://www.lexical.org.uk/blog/ "The Random Walk", 10pm Fridays | "... and now I couldn't sleep!" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 13:58:03 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: way, way OT - UK history (was Re: [idealcopy] class...) In a message dated 12/2/03 12:49:10 PM Central Standard Time, dpbailey@worldnet.att.net writes: > which raises the question of just how fluent transplanted midwesterner mr > kane is in southern. were flash-card drills on "tump," "all stove up" (which > expression my lifelong-alabaman girlfriend didn't know when i used it > earlier this year, even though i do believe it appears in one of my favorite > movies ever, slingblade, shot about 20 miles from little rock with central > arkansan billy bob thornton at the helm), "slanchwise," "the war against > northern aggression," "ovair," "rat cheer," "yay long," etc entailed before > he was accorded citizenship in the latterday confederacy? > > dan > here's one for you: most people in St. Louis use the word "Hoosier" as a derogatory slang term for "redneck" or "hillbilly"...people from Indiana are always confused by this.... and most people here cannot pronouce "o"'s in words...they replace them with "a"s..such as: farty instead of forty narth instead or north you get the idea... RL p.s. - we'd better stop this thread soon....so as not to bore everyone else... sorry guys ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 19:59:34 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] 3GirlRumba VideoClip by Klonhertz > Royalties wa-hey! > Mark ;-) Thus spoke shareholder Mark? ;-) Bart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 13:22:45 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: [idealcopy] slang king [was Re: way, way OT - UK history (was Re: [idealcopy] class...)] At 01:59 AM 12/2/2003 -0600, dan bailey wrote: >makes me wonder just how (in)completely kids these days are taught iin u.s. >classrooms about the debacle that was the vietnam war ... Probably as incompletely as they are about everything else. When I went through school in the '70s and early '80s, the textbooks only went through Kennedy and "Great Society" LBJ, IIRC, so Vietnam hadn't quite made it yet. FWIW, Vietnam was taught very frankly and thoroughly in my college history courses at both the undergrad and grad levels. >"all stove up" That one I know and might even say, though all the rest except for one at least read as unfamiliar to me, a native West Virginian. OK, I know "The War of Northern Aggression," but only recall it being used by fanatics -- if me or my friends said it, the intent was clearly parodic. If "ovair" is "over there," we must not have collapsed the words quite as much. Anyway, here's the other one I'd say: >"yay long," I think that one's spelled "yea long," though pronounced the same. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:31:39 -0000 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Let It Be Wired Frustratingly I've been to Leeds today for work but didn't have chance to go shopping - gah! Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Clements, Bruno - BUP Sent: 02 December 2003 10:44 To: 'idealcopy@smoe.org' Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Let It Be Wired - ----- Original Message ----- From: Clements, Bruno - BUP > Don't keep us in suspense - where's the shop! > > Bargain hunter Bruno > Jumbo Records in Leeds - but it's mine, I say, all mine! - ---No problem - I've never been to Leeds, but my brother goes occasionally so I'll tip him off!!! ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. 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Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: 01 December 2003 23:20 To: Alistair Tear; Keith Knight Cc: Idealcopy@Smoe.Org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT Scott Walker Faulty Boxset Right, the news from the Scott list is that if you ring Mercury Records on 08705 900 909 they will send you a replacement CD in the post. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alistair Tear" To: "'Tim'" Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 12:20 PM Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime (box set) > Bugger! can this be true? > I've got it but not got around > to playing it yet... > > Surely the record company is obliged > to rectify the situation? > Under the Sale of goods act or somesuch... > > A > > weekend play - > Toward the within - Dead can Dance DVD (highly recommended) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:23:54 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: RE: way, way OT - UK history (was Re: [idealcopy] class...) "Clements, Bruno - BUP" wrote: In a message dated 12/2/03 8:44:50 AM Central Standard Time, B.Clements@bepp.co.uk writes: > - SO NO doubt you'd be even more incredulous at the idiots who drive around > the UK with Confederate flags on their car! you must be kidding... RL Er, no. I've seen pix of Lemmy (Motorhead) wearing a Confederate badge too! Bruno This is indeed a shame,do they not realise that the confederate flag is regarded by many americans as a racist (read white supremisist) symbol? living here in the south it's not uncommon to see rednecks 'flying the flag' fuck 'em all i say,racist bastards.Ari ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:29:11 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] O:T:Being 'Proud" of where your from is...... ......exceedingly silly,it's like being proud because your white,we had no say in either,how can one be proud of something that wasn't our doing?we are what we are,we were born where we were born.end of story.Ari Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:50:53 -0500 From: "Eric Klaver" Subject: RE: way, way OT - UK history (was Re: [idealcopy] class...) RLynn: what's wrong with having pride with where you're from? ///////////////////// Yeah! Eric from Toronto - --though I would like to visit St. Louis sometime to cheack out Saarinen's Acrh and Kiley's landscape. And I know I would be happier living in the Netherlands-- it's all about food (mmm pannekoek) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:38:34 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] Wire related (to cheer up Uri) http://www.pushposters.co.uk/cgi/pcart/showitem.cgi?item=a00847 Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 23:54:11 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Echo And The Bunnymen reissues > I've been a fan of the band since I saw the video for "The Cutter" back in > 1983 (when I was eleven). I didn't get around to buying anything from > them, however, until the 1987 self-titled release. They were awesome when I saw them supporting the Teardrops. Was tempted to go and see them on this tour, as I was talking to someone who said they're on good form at the mo, but the Liverpool gig sold out. So I still haven't seen them for 22 yrs, though I did see Mac and Sergeant in the their Nirvana-fixated period as Electrafixion. They were pretty good, too for the record. I sent the Cope quote about him onto someone and got this amusing - if rather scathing - reply back. I ultimately will probably always rate McCullough as the decent singer he undoubtedly is. However, he is the sort of Scouse Gob-Shite who increasingly pisses me off nowadays. Even though I love Arrogance-in-Pop ("I tremble at the power of The Smiths. It's there, and it's going to happen" - Morrissey, Sounds, 1983), I always cringed at Mac's wanky "we've just made the greatest album EVER" propaganda (What? Porcupine!??? Are you TOTALLY mad?!). I believe(d) in Morrissey's hyperbole, but Mac is probably second only to Gerrad Houllier as the most deluded man on Merseyside. The football reference at the end will probably be lost on you, Jason, but it made me laugh. Keith ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 08:14:05 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: [idealcopy] [OT] Guided By Demos Only for GBV fans (hi Ian) From Pitchforkmedia: http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/news/03-12/02.shtml Guided By Voices To Release Earthquake Glue Demos In January! "I would've done 'Unplugged,' but who wants to light all those fucking candles?" Guided By Voices and Indianapolis' Luna Music are joining forces to release a limited-edition vinyl LP, Edison's Demos, on January 6th. The album was recorded in one day ("actually in a matter of 5 hours-- start to finish," according to Luna) in October 2002, with Robert Pollard playing all instruments and singing all of the vocals. "These are the original demos for the songs that became Guided By Voices' Earthquake Glue," Luna reports. "These are the songs laid bare: raw, beautiful, and unadorned." The LP, which Luna promises to strictly limit to 1000 copies, will not be re-released on CD, according to the label. Tracklist: 01 Mix Up The Satellites 02 I'll Replace You With Machines 03 Beat Your Wings 04 Useless Inventions 05 Dirty Water 06 She Goes Off At Night 07 She Goes Off At Night [vocals only mix] 08 Dead Cloud 09 My Son, My Secretary, My Country 10 A Trophy Mule In Particular 11 Main Street Wizards 12 Main Street Wizards [homemade click track mix] 13 Blasted But It's Easy 14 Apology In Advance 15 Secret Star ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V6 #360 *******************************