From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V6 #359 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Tuesday, December 2 2003 Volume 06 : Number 359 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Echo And The Bunnymen reissues ["Jason Rogers" ] Re: FW: [idealcopy] Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime (box set) [Ari Bri] RE: RE: [idealcopy] Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime (box set) ["Clemen] Re: [idealcopy] A working-class hero is nothing to be....... ["John Rober] [idealcopy] THE LAST MONTH [kevin eden ] [idealcopy] OT - John Peel show mp3s [=?iso-8859-1?q?Monochromatic=20Man?] Re: [idealcopy] class... [RLynn9@aol.com] [idealcopy] Colin Newman - Commercial Suicide ["Jack Alberson" ] Re: [idealcopy] coffee + tv ["Ian B" ] Re: OT [idealcopy] devo+inflatable bruce ["Ian B" ] Re: [idealcopy] class... [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] class... [=?iso-8859-1?q?Monochromatic=20Man?= ] Re: [idealcopy] OT Scott Walker Faulty Boxset ["Tim" ] Re: [idealcopy] Echo And The Bunnymen reissues [CHRISWIRE@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 12:03:03 +0000 From: "Jason Rogers" Subject: [idealcopy] Echo And The Bunnymen reissues Has anyone else here bought any of the reissues of the first five Echo And The Bunnymen albums? I've bought Crocodiles, Heaven Up Here, and the 1987 self-titled "grey album"; I'll probably buy Porcupine and Ocean Rain this week. These remastered albums sound amazing and bonus tracks off of each are worth it; the Crocodiles disc has the Shine So Hard EP included as bonus material. They did a good job of including bonus songs that haven't been released in other recent formats and/or weren't included on the recent box set. During the past week, I've been listening to Heaven Up Here a lot and am rediscovering what a flawless album it is. The Talking Heads box set that I posted about earlier is keen, but the Echo reissues deserve even more praise. I thought I'd throw these recommendations out here since there seem to be fans of both bands on the list. Jason _________________________________________________________________ Has one of the new viruses infected your computer? Find out with a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee. Take the FreeScan now! http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 04:26:06 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] A working-class hero is nothing to be....... Bart wrote........ >That whole medieval class-orientated way of thinking oughta be ditched real soon. E.g. the Britpop documentary we discussed a few months back showed a Noel G. disclaiming his soul to be a lot more pure (than Damon's of course) because he was working class. Both are talking such bollocks! Being guilty from birth just because you're in this or that class is so close to rascism!< I'm in total agreement here Bart,what beats me is 'all' the different classes think they're the cream of the crop. Rubbish,are we not all equal?and whilste we're getting rid off 'class',let's get rid of religion as well,the real curse of mankind.Ari Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:34:29 -0000 From: Alistair Tear Subject: FW: [idealcopy] Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime (box set) - -----Original Message----- From: Alistair Tear Sent: 01 December 2003 12:21 To: 'Tim' Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime (box set) Bugger! can this be true? I've got it but not got around to playing it yet... Surely the record company is obliged to rectify the situation? Under the Sale of goods act or somesuch... A weekend play - Toward the within - Dead can Dance DVD (highly recommended) > > However, a warning to those thinking of buying the Scott > Walker box set. > The 3rd CD is faulty and only plays in one channel, seems > that this is true > for the entire first run of the box set (ah major record > companies, dontcha > just love em?) > ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Transport for London Street Management hereby excludes any warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of this e-mail and any attached transmitted files. 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Bruno ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:41:01 -0000 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: [idealcopy] class... - -----Original Message----- From: Bart van Damme That whole medieval class-orientated way of thinking oughta be ditched real soon. E.g. the Britpop documentary we discussed a few months back showed a Noel G. disclaiming his soul to be a lot more pure (than Damon's of course) because he was working class. Both are talking such bollocks! Being guilty from birth just because you're in this or that class is so close to rascism! Bart Yes, and don't forget we've still got a Protestant-Catholic divide in Northern Ireland - depressing isn't it! Mind you, I think Belgium/Netherlands still has a language issue... And don't most of the French hate the Parisiens?! The Welsh get the mickey taken out of them in England and just try telling people that Cornwall used to be a country (a country being defined not on size but as having a distinct language/border/culture)! Bruno PS Did you get my email re Louis Andriessen, etc? ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 05:02:30 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: Re: FW: [idealcopy] Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime (box set) Alistair Tear weekend play - Toward the within - Dead can Dance DVD (highly recommended)< 'Tis indeed a great dvd,ruined,in my opinion,by the frigging interviews between trax,I'da hoped they'd corrected that for the dvd release.......... As for the Talking Heads boxed set,gottit,most ridiculous packaging ever (once in a lifetime hopefully) I put the c.d's/dvd in jewel boxes and put the packaging 'away',immagine the headache on line stores will have sending this slim-jim through the mail.Ari Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:34:24 -0000 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: RE: RE: [idealcopy] Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime (box set) Hy Bruno,C.D's are 'printed',not 'pressed',just thought you might like to know that.........Ari [Clements, Bruno - BUP] Oh, right. I distinctly remember 'stamping' being mentioned when articles about CD manufacture were being run everywhere in the '80s which led me to think of 'pressing', which was a term used for production of vinyl records. Surely, a disc is made with the playing surface being sandwiched/bonded in between the protective surface and label surface? That doesn't sound like printing to me, though I dare say the industry's quite happy with the term. ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 14:21:27 +0000 From: "John Roberts" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] A working-class hero is nothing to be....... Whilst I concur with certain points made here I'd suggest that we can't really stop talking about class until there are no more poor. Class politics is not all about Damon and Noel's equally bourgeois notions of what 'working class' authenticity is. And social class as we know it would not have existed in medieval times; I'd have said that class identity as we know it really only comes into being with the Industrial Revolution and the availability of a previously unachievable sense of national and international community through the proliferation of both bourgeois and radical newspapers. (I teach media studies.) And I suggest we leave it at that comrades? 8-) Cheers John http://www.surf.to/ambition >From: Ari Britt >To: idealcopy@smoe.org >Subject: [idealcopy] A working-class hero is nothing to be....... >Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 04:26:06 -0800 (PST) > >Bart wrote........ > >That whole medieval class-orientated way of thinking oughta be ditched >real >soon. E.g. the Britpop documentary we discussed a few months back >showed a >Noel G. disclaiming his soul to be a lot more pure (than Damon's of >course) >because he was working class. Both are talking such bollocks! Being >guilty >from birth just because you're in this or that class is so close to >rascism!< >I'm in total agreement here Bart,what beats me is 'all' the different >classes think they're the cream of the crop. >Rubbish,are we not all equal?and whilste we're getting rid off >'class',let's get rid of religion as well,the real curse of mankind.Ari >Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now _________________________________________________________________ Sign-up for a FREE BT Broadband connection today! http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 06:22:44 -0800 (PST) From: kevin eden Subject: [idealcopy] THE LAST MONTH Well, its December. The final month of WMO. Thanks to everyone who has supported and encouraged us over the past years. May I remind you all that we are selling ALL WMO titles for GBP5.00. Please email for full details and availability as some titles are very low in stock. Once they are gone they are gone for good. Order now to avoid disappointment. kevin eden http://www.wireviews.com/wmo/index.html "dreams that money can buy" Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 15:32:26 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Monochromatic=20Man?= Subject: [idealcopy] OT - John Peel show mp3s http://www.radio.plus.com/ Here you go ... wnd3 ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:42:06 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] class... > That whole medieval class-orientated way of thinking oughta be ditched real > soon. E.g. the Britpop documentary we discussed a few months back showed a > Noel G. disclaiming his soul to be a lot more pure (than Damon's of course) > because he was working class. Both are talking such bollocks! Being guilty > from birth just because you're in this or that class is so close to rascism! > > Bart>>>>> yeah...i am definitely working class but i have no hatred for the "upper class"...i just try really hard at dating their daughters... RL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 10:30:49 -0600 From: "Jack Alberson" Subject: [idealcopy] Colin Newman - Commercial Suicide By the grace of Mr. Newman himself, I received my copy of the Crammed reissue of Commercial Suicide in the post on Saturday. In case you've not heard the reissue-the "Interview" tracks are the greatest piss-take since "ZEGK HOQP" on Document and Eyewitness. Now to finish my interview. Jack Jack L. Alberson Property Administrator CB Richard Ellis First Tennessee Building 165 Madison Avenue Memphis, TN 38103 (901) 521-1748 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 09:24:29 -0800 From: Paul Pietromonaco Subject: Re: RE: [idealcopy] Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime (box set) >>Hy Bruno,C.D's are 'printed',not 'pressed',just >>thought you might like to know that.........Ari >I distinctly remember 'stamping' being mentioned when articles about CD >manufacture were being run everywhere in the '80s which led me to think of >'pressing', which was a term used for production of vinyl records. > >Surely, a disc is made with the playing surface being sandwiched/bonded in >between the protective surface and label surface? That doesn't sound like >printing to me, though I dare say the industry's quite happy with the term. Cool - now it's time for Paul's CD manufacture primer volume 27! (^_^) Actually, you're both right. CDs are made like this: A glass master disc is "cut" by a high power laser in a clean room. The glass master disc is then turned into a stamper, which presses hot polycarbonate into discs, with pits on one side. The "pit" side is then covered with aluminum and sealed with lacquer. Then, the label is printed on top of the lacquer. (DVDs are manufactured similarly, except that the aluminum on the pit side is covered with another layer of polycarbonate instead of lacquer, and the label is printed on top of that.) There's a very detailed description here: http://www.disctronics.co.uk/downloads/tech_docs/replication.pdf and a high level overview here: http://www.disctronics.co.uk/technology/manuf/rep_intro.htm Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:50:12 -0000 From: "Ian B" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Let It Be Wired - ----- Original Message ----- From: Clements, Bruno - BUP > Don't keep us in suspense - where's the shop! > > Bargain hunter Bruno > Jumbo Records in Leeds - but it's mine, I say, all mine! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:07:26 -0000 From: "Ian B" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] coffee + tv - ----- Original Message ----- From: Monochromatic Man > The DEVO dvd is great for the audio commentary. Too > bad it's a reissue of the 1993 laserdisc. > I don't think the sound is quite up to today's > standards. What's this? Ian B ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:19:53 -0000 From: "Ian B" Subject: Re: OT [idealcopy] devo+inflatable bruce - ----- Original Message ----- From: > //////mark mothersbaugh writes the music for "clifford the big red dog" , one > of my daughters favourites. a really crap cartoon with music you would never He also did the O/S for The Royal Tenenbaums. And on that subject, anybody else think that the bloke who played the burnt out ex tennis pro looked like a young Bruce Gilbert on steroids after he shaved his beard off (the character shaved, not the young Bruce)? No? okay. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:35:59 -0600 From: "Jack Alberson" Subject: RE: OT [idealcopy] devo+inflatable bruce It's the jaw. I can see it, kinda. Scary enough, Bruce is looking a bit Ben Stein-ish nowadays...much rather see BC selling Clear Eyes than Ben. ;) He also did the O/S for The Royal Tenenbaums. And on that subject, anybody else think that the bloke who played the burnt out ex tennis pro looked like a young Bruce Gilbert on steroids after he shaved his beard off (the character shaved, not the young Bruce)? No? okay. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:56:07 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Echo And The Bunnymen reissues > Has anyone else here bought any of the reissues of the first five Echo And > The Bunnymen albums? Sorry. Can't resist mentioning this Julian Cope quote about Mac, quoted in this months Word magazine... "If I were as under-achieving a no-mark as he's become, I'd at least have the awareness to shut the fuck up. I feel sorry for him". Well, after McCulloch's continual bad-mouthing all these years, I suppose it's time he got a response!! Keith (fave Bunnymen album - though not heard it in a long time - was always Heaven Up Here) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 15:54:46 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Echo And The Bunnymen reissues In a message dated 12/1/03 2:51:35 PM Central Standard Time, keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: > > Has anyone else here bought any of the reissues of the first five Echo And > > The Bunnymen albums? > > Sorry. Can't resist mentioning this Julian Cope quote about Mac, quoted in > this months Word magazine... > > "If I were as under-achieving a no-mark as he's become, I'd at least have > the awareness to shut the fuck up. I feel sorry for him". > > Well, after McCulloch's continual bad-mouthing all these years, I suppose > it's time he got a response!! yeah...my friend met McCulloch in Chicago a few weeks ago....he appeared at an in-store meet and greet ...my friend said he acted like a complete jerk.... i guess it didn't help that my friend asked him to sign a copy of Bill Drummond's book "45"... it seems he doesn't have to high of an opinion about ol' Bill... oh well.. RL np - Ultramarine - "Every Man and Woman is a Star" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:02:07 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] class... > The Welsh get the mickey taken > out of them in England We can cope with that. After all, it could be worse. We could be English ; ) Petty bloody nationalism. Don't you just hate it! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:04:07 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] class... In a message dated 12/1/03 2:56:43 PM Central Standard Time, keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: > > The Welsh get the mickey taken > > out of them in England > > We can cope with that. After all, it could be worse. We could be English ; ) > > Petty bloody nationalism. Don't you just hate it! > > yeah...try living in the USA and being from the midwest/south (unless you are in Chicago), you get dumped on by the west coast and east coast...if you don't live in NYC or LA then you must fuck goats, cows, or your own sister... RL ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 21:15:58 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Monochromatic=20Man?= Subject: Re: [idealcopy] class... > yeah...try living in the USA and being from the > midwest/south (unless you are > in Chicago), you get dumped on by the west coast and > east coast...if you > don't live in NYC or LA then you must fuck goats, > cows, or your own sister... > > RL You don't HAVE to fuck the goats etc...it's more of a life choice. What about sheep shaggers? Any New Zealanders on the list? wnd3 ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:17:59 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: Way off topic - RE: [idealcopy] class... In a message dated 12/1/03 3:11:39 PM Central Standard Time, jalberson@firsttennesseebuilding.com writes: > Wait just a second, it's alright if your sister's attractive, isn't it? > > Jack > (originally from Arkansas, who couldn't resist a good opportunity for > piss-take when he saw one) > wow, another Arkansasian on the list (Dan being the other) ?....one day we midwesterner/southerners just might even the numbers with the UK wing... unless of course our sisters are all on the pill .... couldn't resist a pisstake on a pisstake of my pisstake... seriously though...where about in Arkansas are you?..i have relatives in Marmaduke/Corning .... Robert ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 05:14:04 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: Way off topic - RE: [idealcopy] class... not sure if it's where jack's from (he's in memphis these days, right across the mississippi from arkansas), but i met him about 4 years ago while shopping at the used-music place he worked at in west little rock. while browsing the racks i heard him talking to someone else about his band, & in chatting with him while checking out i found out he regarded wire & joy division, among others, as major influences. got to see his band, heterodyne, only a couple of times -- at their cd-ep release party on an extremely storm-drenched night & doing a set of mostly cure covers at a halloween gig at lr's top venue. seems to me that both gigs began with their version of concrete blonde's bloodletting, but it's entirely possible that i've lost my mind. even more remarkable in the arkansan connection area, perhaps, is the fact that the proprietor of lr's top alternative music store, anthropop, & also a member of the somewhat prolific band ho-hum, hails from my own backwoods home county of maybe 11,000 souls. that'd be la-FAY-ette county, of course, 2 counties over from el do-RAY-do. dan >In a message dated 12/1/03 3:11:39 PM Central Standard Time, >jalberson@firsttennesseebuilding.com writes: > >> Wait just a second, it's alright if your sister's attractive, isn't it? >> >> Jack >> (originally from Arkansas, who couldn't resist a good opportunity for >> piss-take when he saw one) >> > >wow, another Arkansasian on the list (Dan being the other) ?....one day we >midwesterner/southerners just might even the numbers with the UK wing... > >unless of course our sisters are all on the pill .... > >couldn't resist a pisstake on a pisstake of my pisstake... > >seriously though...where about in Arkansas are you?..i have relatives in >Marmaduke/Corning .... > >Robert ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:06:24 -0600 From: "Jack Alberson" Subject: RE: Way off topic - RE: [idealcopy] class... As far as I can remember we only played "Bloodletting" at the Juanita's show, but who knows? It's been nearly four years now. If only we could have sorted out "Practice Makes Perfect"...we DID do "Outdoor Miner" at one of our gigs but it was a bit of a disaster. However, our medley of Joy Division's "Atmosphere" and New Order's "Run" was an absolute success. :D If I may direct you to http://thejetagrove.fac193.com , that is the location of my current musical endeavour and there are a couple of mp3s there for your enjoyment. No covers there, yet, but I may just sort out a Wire cover soon. Also there are a couple of cd-r singles there for order (shameless plug, eh?) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of dan bailey Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 5:14 AM To: ideal copy Subject: Re: Way off topic - RE: [idealcopy] class... not sure if it's where jack's from (he's in memphis these days, right across the mississippi from arkansas), but i met him about 4 years ago while shopping at the used-music place he worked at in west little rock. while browsing the racks i heard him talking to someone else about his band, & in chatting with him while checking out i found out he regarded wire & joy division, among others, as major influences. got to see his band, heterodyne, only a couple of times -- at their cd-ep release party on an extremely storm-drenched night & doing a set of mostly cure covers at a halloween gig at lr's top venue. seems to me that both gigs began with their version of concrete blonde's bloodletting, but it's entirely possible that i've lost my mind. even more remarkable in the arkansan connection area, perhaps, is the fact that the proprietor of lr's top alternative music store, anthropop, & also a member of the somewhat prolific band ho-hum, hails from my own backwoods home county of maybe 11,000 souls. that'd be la-FAY-ette county, of course, 2 counties over from el do-RAY-do. dan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 22:30:22 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Echo And The Bunnymen reissues > i guess it didn't help that my friend asked him to sign a copy of Bill > Drummond's book "45"... > > it seems he doesn't have to high of an opinion about ol' Bill... Neither has Cope. From the same article... "He burnt a million pounds which was not all his, and some if it was mine. People should pay their creditors before they pull intellectual dry-wank stunts like that". Keith NP Bowie - Reality ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 15:18:27 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] Alabama 3 on tour http://www.alabama3.co.uk/news/calendar2.asp you lucky people..... Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:20:27 -0000 From: "Tim" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT Scott Walker Faulty Boxset Right, the news from the Scott list is that if you ring Mercury Records on 08705 900 909 they will send you a replacement CD in the post. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alistair Tear" To: "'Tim'" Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 12:20 PM Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime (box set) > Bugger! can this be true? > I've got it but not got around > to playing it yet... > > Surely the record company is obliged > to rectify the situation? > Under the Sale of goods act or somesuch... > > A > > weekend play - > Toward the within - Dead can Dance DVD (highly recommended) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 23:29:35 +0000 From: "ian s jackson" Subject: [idealcopy] Hox 'It-Ness' on eBay... just thought i'd let Billy (was it...??? Mono Man...???) and the rest of youz know that i got this for a bid of 65 cents...!!! so..thanks very much for the link..!!! plus shipping this worked out to #3.74 in total...!!! i also got hold of Stephen Jones' 'Almost Cured' for 1, yes, 1 cent (plus shipping again) which came to about #1.70...!!! well worth a punt this lot...i lost out on Beck's 'Sea Change'. the Toshack Highway CD and a John Coltrane cd...ah well...you cant win em all... ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:58:30 EST From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] class... In a message dated 01/12/2003 21:09:16 GMT Standard Time, RLynn9@aol.com writes: > yeah...try living in the USA and being from the midwest/south (unless you > are > in Chicago), you get dumped on by the west coast and east coast...if you > don't live in NYC or LA then you must fuck goats, cows, or your own > sister... > > Well.....do ya billy boy???? .Now how do you make one of those smiley things ?? :) ? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:59:59 EST From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] class... In a message dated 01/12/2003 21:36:51 GMT Standard Time, xj23@yahoo.com writes: > You don't HAVE to fuck the goats etc...it's more of a > life choice. > What about sheep shaggers? Any New Zealanders on the > list? > No No No ....They are Welsh !!! Ducks Keith Astburys missile heading for my house !! Chris ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:06:22 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Hox 'It-Ness' on eBay... > >>the Toshack Highway CD << I'm amazed you'd tolerate having such a thing in the house ;-) Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:17:28 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] class... In a message dated 12/1/03 5:58:30 PM Central Standard Time, CHRIS WIRE writes: > >> yeah...try living in the USA and being from the midwest/south (unless >> you are >> in Chicago), you get dumped on by the west coast and east coast...if you >> don't live in NYC or LA then you must fuck goats, cows, or your own >> sister... >> >> > > Well.....do ya billy boy???? .Now how do you make one of those smiley things > ?? :) ? it's Bobby...and no, i do not have a sister ...nor do i live near any goats or cows...HOWEVER, i do live Washington University and St. Louis University so the stench of the great unwashed (hippie students) does resemble that of goats or cows... RL np - Eric Kupper's K-Scope Project ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:17:57 EST From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: Way off topic - RE: [idealcopy] class... In a message dated 01/12/2003 21:58:02 GMT Standard Time, dpbailey@worldnet.att.net writes: > but it's > entirely possible that i've lost my mind. > No Dan... forget that one.Train of thought...granted. Chris (Who shouldn't ..but does.. read all e-mails thoroughly...including the often boring techno ones) No offence Paul P ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 00:35:49 +0000 From: "Jason Rogers" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Echo And The Bunnymen reissues My favorite Echo And The Bunnymen album is a toss-up between Crocodiles and Heaven Up Here. I've been a fan of the band since I saw the video for "The Cutter" back in 1983 (when I was eleven). I didn't get around to buying anything from them, however, until the 1987 self-titled release. I saw Echo And The Bunnymen (well, Ian McCulloch, Will Sergeant, and new members) in November of 2001, within a month's time from when the band recorded the live music for their CD/DVD Live In Liverpool, and they were in top form; it was one of the best shows that I've ever seen. They thoroughly upstaged The Psychedelic Furs, who shared the bill with them on that tour...and the Furs have always been one of my favorite bands as well. Ian McCulloch is my favorite vocalist in rock music and his solo albums are decent for anyone interested; his latest effort, Slideling, is a bit more low-key (and features Coldplay members in a couple of songs), but is still one of the best albums this year. I'm a bit annoyed that he didn't play live here in Atlanta this time around for the solo tour, but that's life. See you at the barricades... Jason >From: "Keith Astbury" >To: "Jason Rogers" , >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Echo And The Bunnymen reissues >Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:56:07 -0000 > >Keith (fave Bunnymen album - though not heard it in a long time - was >always >Heaven Up Here) > _________________________________________________________________ Share holiday photos without swamping your Inbox. Get MSN Extra Storage now! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 16:32:30 -0800 From: Paul Pietromonaco Subject: Re: Way off topic - RE: [idealcopy] class... > Chris (Who shouldn't ..but does.. read all e-mails thoroughly...including >the often boring techno ones) > No offence Paul P None taken, since I haven't written any articles about boring Techno music yet. (^_^) Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 01:44:23 +0000 From: "ian s jackson" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Hox 'It-Ness' on eBay... hahaha....i know Mark...i did actually think twice about it...but it was SO cheap...!!! (for all non (UK) football fans...the band name,Toshack Highway, refers to two old Liverpool players, John Toshack & Steve Heighway (sic)...i am an Everton fan...the 'other' older team in Liverpool...) damn those pesky reds...maybe my next musical project should be called 'McKenzie Latchford'...??? ian.s.j. >From: MarkBursa@aol.com >To: iansjackson@hotmail.com, idealcopy@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Hox 'It-Ness' on eBay... >Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:06:22 EST > > > > >>the Toshack Highway CD << > >I'm amazed you'd tolerate having such a thing in the house ;-) > >Mark _________________________________________________________________ Find a cheaper internet access deal - choose one to suit you. http://www.msn.co.uk/internetaccess ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 01:48:35 +0000 From: "ian s jackson" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] The Sound BBC Recordings >Fans of The Sound may be interested in this.. yeah...but they were never as good as The Com-Sat Angels...pulls tongues at KeithA...hahaha... ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 10:51:26 +0800 From: "Tim ****" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Echo And The Bunnymen reissues I have yet to hear these, why don't they start reissuing these remasters on Hybrid sacd's? A couple of other things - Jeff Astle missed a 'complete sitter' in the 1970 world cup & is not a god-like figure in my books! If anyone checks out The Cure's Trilogy Dvd it's worth it for the 'Pornography' section of the gig alone! I've now had a Devo audio check & only certain songs stand up from the 1st Lp, it's a crappy Eno mix isn't it!?? Coffee & Tea now that's a classic in the making.....wait until you hear it 10 yrs down the track..... Tim Regional Sentence Alert - In the Snug with Minnie Cawdwell (Old corrie viewers take note) np's - Bowie - 'Dudes' Glasgow 2003 Mego Site - Various Track Streams - ----Original Message Follows---- From: RLynn9@aol.com To: keith.astbury10@virgin.net, inspectorjason@hotmail.com, idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Echo And The Bunnymen reissues Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 15:54:46 EST In a message dated 12/1/03 2:51:35 PM Central Standard Time, keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: > > Has anyone else here bought any of the reissues of the first five Echo And > > The Bunnymen albums? > > Sorry. Can't resist mentioning this Julian Cope quote about Mac, quoted in > this months Word magazine... > > "If I were as under-achieving a no-mark as he's become, I'd at least have > the awareness to shut the fuck up. I feel sorry for him". > > Well, after McCulloch's continual bad-mouthing all these years, I suppose > it's time he got a response!! yeah...my friend met McCulloch in Chicago a few weeks ago....he appeared at an in-store meet and greet ...my friend said he acted like a complete jerk.... i guess it didn't help that my friend asked him to sign a copy of Bill Drummond's book "45"... it seems he doesn't have to high of an opinion about ol' Bill... oh well.. RL np - Ultramarine - "Every Man and Woman is a Star" _________________________________________________________________ Hot chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilemania/default.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:21:17 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] class... > > What about sheep shaggers? Any New Zealanders on the > > list? > > > > No No No ....They are Welsh !!! Ducks Keith Astburys missile heading for my > house !! I thought us Celts were supposed to stick together!! Anyway, don't knock it till you've tried it. And at least I'm not English. Vol 2. ; ) Petty bloody Nationalism. (Think that'll be the name of my next musical project. As I remarked to Ian, Latchford MacKenzie is doomed to failure!) Keith ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 04:15:16 EST From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Echo And The Bunnymen reissues In a message dated 02/12/2003 03:17:25 GMT Standard Time, oneloveonebagonenil@hotmail.com writes: > A couple of other things - Jeff Astle missed a 'complete sitter' in the > 1970 > world cup &is not a god-like figure in my books! > True. But I was still proud to walk through The Astle Gates at the Albion a couple of weeks ago. Even I could have put away that chance in Mexico. Chris ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V6 #359 *******************************