From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V6 #355 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Friday, November 28 2003 Volume 06 : Number 355 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] ot - opinions sought [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] ot - opinions sought ["John Roberts" ] Re: [idealcopy] ot - opinions sought [MarkBursa@aol.com] [idealcopy] Let It Be Wired ["Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ot - opinions sought As I said Home used to be a huge Crisis fan. I think he talks about them in his Cranked Up Really High: Genre Theory and PUnk Rock. And he certainly used to like DIJ. According to http://www.brainwashed.com/dij/liveshow.html he supported them at a gig in Newbury in 1984. Either Home's politics have taken precedence over his (anti)artistic endeavours or his latest (anti)artistic performance is to become embroiled in hard line communism. Whatever - he certainly makes interesting reading. Cheers John http://www.surf.to/ambition >From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com >To: johnroberts_stats@hotmail.com, MarkBursa@aol.com, >alistairtear@streetmanagement.org.uk, idealcopy@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ot - opinions sought >Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:09:28 -0500 > >thanks john , i enjoyed that > >ol' mr home has changed his tune on crisis quite markedly , he writes a >whole chapter on them in the DIJ book that got published a few years back >and it's not critical at all. whereas now he seems to see douglas p as a >bit of a clown. who'd have thought it? p _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:34:02 +0000 From: "John Roberts" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ot - DIJ/Stewart Home And Home was actually in a band of sorts with Douglas P called Somewhere In Europe. And he wrote the sleeve notes to the Crisis CD. Forgot that. John http://www.surf.to/ambition >From: "John Roberts" >To: PaulRabjohn@aol.com, MarkBursa@aol.com, >alistairtear@streetmanagement.org.uk, idealcopy@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ot - opinions sought >Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:20:17 +0000 > >As I said Home used to be a huge Crisis fan. I think he talks about them >in his Cranked Up Really High: Genre Theory and PUnk Rock. And he >certainly used to like DIJ. According to >http://www.brainwashed.com/dij/liveshow.html he supported them at a gig in >Newbury in 1984. Either Home's politics have taken precedence over his >(anti)artistic endeavours or his latest (anti)artistic performance is to >become embroiled in hard line communism. Whatever - he certainly makes >interesting reading. > >Cheers > >John > > >http://www.surf.to/ambition > > > > > >>From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com >>To: johnroberts_stats@hotmail.com, MarkBursa@aol.com, >>alistairtear@streetmanagement.org.uk, idealcopy@smoe.org >>Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ot - opinions sought >>Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:09:28 -0500 >> >>thanks john , i enjoyed that >> >>ol' mr home has changed his tune on crisis quite markedly , he writes a >>whole chapter on them in the DIJ book that got published a few years back >>and it's not critical at all. whereas now he seems to see douglas p as a >>bit of a clown. who'd have thought it? p > >_________________________________________________________________ >Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger >http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger _________________________________________________________________ Tired of 56k? Get a FREE BT Broadband connection http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:23:18 -0000 From: "Ian B" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Let It Be Wired - ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim . The > last Mogwai LP came with a plug-in so you could remix one of the songs with > AcidPro I think. not sure of any other examples???? > There's the Tonne Soundtoy CD which features 2 tracks apiece by Hakan Libdo, Scanner, SI-CUT.DB and Tonne, plus software which includes each individual sample from all 8 tracks, and a number of channels/bars of mutable length, the idea being that you drag and drop the samples onto the bars and a tempo controllable cursor moves backwards and forwards across the bars triggering the samples. It's limited but fun. I picked it up for 4 quid (at the same shop that this week, for a tenner in total, I picked up ShelleyDevoto's Buzzkunst, Harold Budd's The Room and Dirty Three's Ocean Songs ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 21:27:29 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ot - opinions sought Fascinating stuff - done nothing to make old Doug look less dodgy does it! Noted this with interest... > >>when Pearce and Wakeford formed a new band called Death In June (DIJ) > their first gig > was a benefit for Workers Against Racism (a cat's paw of the Revolutionary > Communist Party) at Central London Polytechnic towards the end of 1981.<< ...as that was where I saw them. Supporting the Birthday Party, with German all-girl band Malaria 3rd on the bill. It was December 11 1981. So DIJ can join the brief list of bands whose live debuts were witnessed by me, alongside New Order, '80s Wire, The Wild Swans, The Pale Fountains (the latter two on the same night) and, I believe, the Cocteau Twins. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 09:17:03 -0000 From: "Clements, Bruno - BUP" Subject: [idealcopy] Let It Be Wired - -----Original Message----- From: Ian B [mailto:ian@ibarrett.fsnet.co.uk] Sent: 27 November 2003 22:23 To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Let It Be Wired ...I picked it up for 4 quid (at the same shop that this week, for a tenner in total, I picked up ShelleyDevoto's Buzzkunst, Harold Budd's The Room and Dirty Three's Ocean Songs Don't keep us in suspense - where's the shop! Bargain hunter Bruno ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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