From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V6 #324 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Friday, October 31 2003 Volume 06 : Number 324 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] OT: Qua diddley qua qua ["Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Qua diddley qua qua > >p.s. one fave moment was dave vanian's appearance. great stuff > > sun nights, mtv, just before 120 minutes, circa '86-'88. first place i heard > the damned's nasty .... initial inkling i had that they'd actually been up > to something decent since the black album. What about Strawberries!!! I liked that one a lot. (And the Friday 13th e.p. - I was a big fan of that one!) As for Nasty, on The Young Ones, the story goes that they wanted The Damned to perform their version of Help on the show, but the band - having seen Brian James learn the hard way by losing half the songwriting royalties of New Rose due to the Lennon/McCartney composition being on the b-side - displayed a bit more business savvy, and insisted that they play one they'd written themselves. It came out a few months after the programme on the b-side of Thanks For The Night IIRC, which was basically the Captain's last stand (with the band) until the rather splendid Grave Disorder came out a couple of yrs back... K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:00:16 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Damned Young Ones Remember seeing the Damned episode at a friend's squat-home (ex-hospital) which made the Young Ones' home look like a convent. Rats, garbage, stench and fruitflies everywhere. A halfwit neighbour pissed all over the kitchen the night before. Very appropriate athmos for seeing the Young Ones on telly... the squatters' highpoint of the week. Bart > As for Nasty, on The Young Ones, the story goes that they wanted The Damned > to perform their version of Help on the show, but the band - having seen > Brian James learn the hard way by losing half the songwriting royalties of > New Rose due to the Lennon/McCartney composition being on the b-side - > displayed a bit more business savvy, and insisted that they play one they'd > written themselves. > > It came out a few months after the programme on the b-side of Thanks For The > Night IIRC, which was basically the Captain's last stand (with the band) > until the rather splendid Grave Disorder came out a couple of yrs back... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:17:11 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Damned Young Ones In a message dated 10/30/03 11:02:23 AM Central Standard Time, bartvandamme@home.nl writes: > Remember seeing the Damned episode at a friend's squat-home (ex-hospital) > which made the Young Ones' home look like a convent. Rats, garbage, stench > and fruitflies everywhere. A halfwit neighbour pissed all over the kitchen > the night before. Very appropriate athmos for seeing the Young Ones on > telly... the squatters' highpoint of the week. > > Bart > forgive the (perhaps) dumb question...but how do people in an abandoned old building get electricity to watch television? RL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:04:12 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Damned Young Ones > forgive the (perhaps) dumb question...but how do people in an abandoned old > building get electricity to watch television? Well, that's were the rats come in... at their little treadmills... -Bart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:21:02 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Monochromatic=20Man?= Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Damned Young Ones Extension cord from someone who has electricity? --- Bart van Damme wrote: > > forgive the (perhaps) dumb question...but how do > people in an abandoned old > > building get electricity to watch television? > > Well, that's were the rats come in... at their > little treadmills... -Bart ===== /\ /\ /\ { o _ o }  \ _--_ / --Try it now! ) GWS Ltd http://www.fortunecity.com/uproar/mental/111/ ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! 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RL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:02:07 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: Fwd: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Damned Young Ones I lived in a squat on Kaizergracht,we had elec.hot n cold,and locks on the doors,ya gotta live in Amsterdam to realize this is no big deal,least it wasn't then (mid '70's)Ari Monochromatic Man wrote:Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:21:02 +0000 (GMT) From: Monochromatic Man Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Damned Young Ones To: idealcopy@smoe.org Extension cord from someone who has electricity? - --- Bart van Damme wrote: > > forgive the (perhaps) dumb question...but how do > people in an abandoned old > > building get electricity to watch television? > > Well, that's were the rats come in... at their > little treadmills... -Bart ===== /\ /\ /\ { o _ o }  \ _--_ / --Try it now! ) GWS Ltd http://www.fortunecity.com/uproar/mental/111/ ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:30:45 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Qua diddley qua qua >> >p.s. one fave moment was dave vanian's appearance. great stuff >> >> sun nights, mtv, just before 120 minutes, circa '86-'88. first place i >heard >> the damned's nasty .... initial inkling i had that they'd actually been up >> to something decent since the black album. > >What about Strawberries!!! > >I liked that one a lot. (And the Friday 13th e.p. - I was a big fan of that >one!) strawberries is a good one (not sure what was on friday the 13th ... must look the tracks up), but i didn't know it at the time, poor reviews having scared me away. i didn't pick up a copy till a couple of years ago, actually. same thing happened with the cure's pornography (now my favorite of their albums), except that i went ahead & took a chance on it in '88. clearly, whichever critics i was paying attention to back then weren't especially reliable. back in those days, of course, there was no idealcopy list to turn to -- for those of us with tastes outsides the mainstream, reviews were pretty much a matter of catch-as-catch-can with whatever fanzines one happened to be partial to. actually, i probably did more buying based on 120 minutes & snub tv videos than anything else ... dan > >As for Nasty, on The Young Ones, the story goes that they wanted The Damned >to perform their version of Help on the show, but the band - having seen >Brian James learn the hard way by losing half the songwriting royalties of >New Rose due to the Lennon/McCartney composition being on the b-side - >displayed a bit more business savvy, and insisted that they play one they'd >written themselves. > >It came out a few months after the programme on the b-side of Thanks For The >Night IIRC, which was basically the Captain's last stand (with the band) >until the rather splendid Grave Disorder came out a couple of yrs back... > >K. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 00:12:55 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Damned Young Ones > I lived in a squat on Kaizergracht,we had elec.hot n cold,and locks on the > doors,ya gotta live in Amsterdam to realize this is no big deal,least it > wasn't then (mid '70's)Ari True Ari and it wasn't a big deal in the Netherlands untill the 80's when things really became grim. The inner city of Amsterdam sometimes was one big battlefield. Todays' rightwing government want to abolish squatting on the whole, though there's hardly a quarter left of the movement. Crass was the ideal soundtrack for the movement here, at least during the first half of the 80's. I don't know if it was the threat of the bomb or mass unemployment, but there were more battles being fought back then in Northern European cities. Anyone here caught in the middle? Bart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 00:31:44 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Damned Unclean Young Ones >> Remember seeing the Damned episode at a friend's squat-home (ex-hospital) >> which made the Young Ones' home look like a convent. Rats, garbage, stench >> and fruitflies everywhere. A halfwit neighbour pissed all over the kitchen >> the night before. Very appropriate athmos for seeing the Young Ones on >> telly... the squatters' highpoint of the week. > A friend of mine who was in art school in Stoke in the early 80's, lived in > a *really* awful flat above a shop with some fellow students. As is often > the case, his mother was disgusted with her little lad living in such a > dive, but it was only when they got up one morning to find their rabbit > nailed to the back door that they decided it was time to move. Remember what your friend (or the rabbit) did to deserve this Keith? Btw, funny how lotsa dudes romanticize... well, letting yourself go. I've heard many of these "unclean" stories being told with such pride - hahaha... Bart (Didn't Rip, Rig and Panic also appear on the Young Ones?) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:33:28 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Damned Young Ones Bart van Damme wrote Anyone here caught in the middle? Bart around '85 couple of my friends were strolling down a gracht and turned a corner into a fully blown riot,the police were hurling rocks at the protesters,who were throwing rocks at them,one narrowly missed my friend Tim and his woman,so he picked up a rock and threw one back,next morning his picture was on the front page 'taking aim' with rock in hand,they quietly left Holland that day.Ari Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:37:14 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] O.T: Does anyone know........ ......what determines the 'speed' at which a c.d-r can be written,is it the 'medium' that's used or what?Paul? Ari Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:14:06 -0800 From: Paul Pietromonaco Subject: Re: [idealcopy] O.T: Does anyone know........ >......what determines the 'speed' at which a c.d-r can be written,is it the 'medium' that's used or what?Paul? You rang? (^_^) It's a combination of the medium and the drive. A 24x drive will write 24x max. But, in order to do 24x, the media must be rated at least 24x, and the drive has to support that media. Otherwise the speeds will be slower - or, depending on the media, maybe not at all. An example - originally CD-RWs were max 4x. Then they changed the media to allow high speed CD-RWs - 10x. My old 4x compatible drives will not write the 10x media, but my new ones will. CD-Rs are not quite so fussy. I have some 16x discs that my new 40x drive will write quite happily at 40x. The drive generally automatically determine how fast it can write on a given disc - or if it can't write on the disc at all. Does this help? (^_^) Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 03:29:18 -0500 From: Ed Special Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Rapid Arse Movement leads to British Shite Power On Friday, October 24, 2003, at 09:16 PM, Tim wrote: > Seriously though.... > > God forbid, If I went blind tomorrow at least I could console myself > by not > having to see Michael Stipes pulsating veiny forehead as he whines his > way > through yet another melodramatic REM 'classic', with his 'ironic' blue > stripe across his eyes on every single frigging programme on every > single > frigging TV and radio channel ever apart from Al Jazeera...and he's > probably > on that as well.... So that's what was on his face last night on the Charlie Rose Show. Ed ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:19:03 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Rapid Arse Movement leads to British Shite Power >> God forbid, If I went blind tomorrow at least I could console myself >> by not having to see Michael Stipes pulsating veiny forehead as he whines his >> way through yet another melodramatic REM 'classic', with his 'ironic' blue >> stripe across his eyes on every single frigging programme on every >> single frigging TV and radio channel ever apart from Al Jazeera...and he's >> probably on that as well.... > So that's what was on his face last night on the Charlie Rose Show. The blue stripe or the pulsating vein you mean? ;-) -Bart ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V6 #324 *******************************