From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V6 #320 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Monday, October 27 2003 Volume 06 : Number 320 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Honi Soit bootleg ["Bill Hick" ] [idealcopy] Esrafil Shiri ["Bill Hick" ] Re: [idealcopy] Honi Soit bootleg [Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: [idealcopy] Honi Soit bootleg To anyone thinking about buying the Rockpalast 'Honi Soit' bootleg, my advice is don't bother. The packaging seems to have been done by a fan at least, but the sound quality is way worse than expected. It has been mastered too fast. Not worth bothering with, specially since you could get a better quality recording of this elsewhere. I think I'll tape my copy and take it back to the shop and demand a refund. Cracked Machine Highly Irregular Cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:07:57 -0000 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] Esrafil Shiri In late August, Esrafil Shiri, an Iranian refugee made homeless by Manchester City Council of Peace, was in great pain from illness. He SET HIMSELF ON FIRE in the offices of Refugee Action when he heard that the Home Office had turned him down. He had already spoken of suicide several times. Before he died the young Iranian had told his friend Kamran, "I came to England because I knew that the people respect cats. After a while I understood that I am less than a cat here." The Home Office gave his brother in Iran a visa to let him claim the body and Refugee Action paid for his ticket, but Iranians are asking, "Why are you spending the money now? Why not before? Israfil needed a doctor and medecine." Meanwhile in the eight pound biscuit plate offices of Manchester City Council of Peace, the smug gloating beardless eunuch troll of Ideal Copy shuffled keys and was proud to play his part in the red tape farce. Whilst on a break from offering his rectal cavity up to Ant ony Wilson, he couldn't even suss out how to get whatever file they keep on another object of his vacuous obsession off the computer system... Some terminal arseholes should learn to mind their own business. Remember the guards of Aushwitz who said they were only doing their duty? If those who claim 'benefits' must bow and scrape to the holy taxpayer, then what does that make asylum seekers? Unclean? "Look at the controller A Nazi with a social degree Middle class hero Rapist with your eyes on me" (KILLING JOKE - pSSyche) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:10:19 +0000 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Honi Soit bootleg On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 10:07:06AM -0000, Bill Hick wrote: > To anyone thinking about buying the Rockpalast 'Honi Soit' bootleg, my advice > is don't bother. > > The packaging seems to have been done by a fan at least, but the > sound quality is way worse than expected. It has been mastered too > fast. Not worth bothering with, specially since you could get a > better quality recording of this elsewhere. Is the most reliable document of early live Wire still "... Eyewitness?" - - Andrew - -- home - email: andrew@lexical.org.uk http://www.lexical.org.uk/ work - email: adw27@esc.cam.ac.uk http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ radio: http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ (10pm Fri) http://www.lexical.org.uk/blog/ "/Peep/". 'Yes?' "More cooookiessssss..." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 21:24:12 +1100 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Phillip=20Blakeney?= Subject: [idealcopy] Strange about REM Tim and Robert wrote (respectively): > Am I the only person on this list who thinks REM are a bunch of tedious, > whining, airline-stewardess-annoying, confusing a tea trolley for a > CD-player, Mandolin-fixated bores and peddlers of the most smug, US College > Radio bollocks ever made? > no, you most definitely not the only one.....the only thing i like by them is Man in the Moon RL Funnily enough I heard REM's performance of the fab Wire song "Strange" for the first time yesterday. It was on one of those 'Unauthorised' Australian bootleg CDs that flooded the market a few years ago which I picked up at a pawnbrokers. I must say REM absolutely RUINED the song for mine. The chorus sounds like it's suffering from a bad case of Steeleye Span disease. Straight to the ebay sales section I think! Phillip from Australia - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Personals - - New people, new possibilities. FREE for a limited time! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:01:03 -0600 (GMT-06:00) From: Miles Goosens Subject: [idealcopy] give 'em enough rope... Graeme, what the hell? Look, on most other lists you would have been banned a long time ago, and your abuse of certain listmembers (on and off list) seems to be a daily occurrence, at least as measured by the complaints I see. Now you're accusing another listmember of complicity in a suicide. Is there no boundary that you won't cross? This goes beyond the pale of jocular rib-tickling and into the realm of actionable slander. Your occasionally brilliant writing and the "we miss Graeme" bootless cries after your last exit don't buy you a permananent get-out-of-jail-free card. I thought this would be a better list with you on it, but all you've done is demonstrate that you have not a single clue about how to belong to a community, even one that places as few restrictions on you as idealcopy. Shall you uns*bscribe, or shall I do it for you? And even if all four members of Wire and the Lord God Jaz Coleman himself all beg you to come back -- don't. later, listowner Miles - -----Original Message----- From: Bill Hick Sent: Oct 26, 2003 4:07 AM To: Ideal Copy Subject: [idealcopy] Esrafil Shiri In late August, Esrafil Shiri, an Iranian refugee made homeless by Manchester City Council of Peace, was in great pain from illness. He SET HIMSELF ON FIRE in the offices of Refugee Action when he heard that the Home Office had turned him down. He had already spoken of suicide several times. Before he died the young Iranian had told his friend Kamran, "I came to England because I knew that the people respect cats. After a while I understood that I am less than a cat here." The Home Office gave his brother in Iran a visa to let him claim the body and Refugee Action paid for his ticket, but Iranians are asking, "Why are you spending the money now? Why not before? Israfil needed a doctor and medecine." Meanwhile in the eight pound biscuit plate offices of Manchester City Council of Peace, the smug gloating beardless eunuch troll of Ideal Copy shuffled keys and was proud to play his part in the red tape farce. Whilst on a break from offering his rectal cavity up to Ant ony Wilson, he couldn't even suss out how to get whatever file they keep on another object of his vacuous obsession off the computer system... Some terminal arseholes should learn to mind their own business. Remember the guards of Aushwitz who said they were only doing their duty? If those who claim 'benefits' must bow and scrape to the holy taxpayer, then what does that make asylum seekers? Unclean? "Look at the controller A Nazi with a social degree Middle class hero Rapist with your eyes on me" (KILLING JOKE - pSSyche) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:09:33 -0600 (GMT-06:00) From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [idealcopy] give 'em enough rope... I said to Graeme: >Shall you uns*bscribe, or shall I do it for you? Actually, I've gone ahead and done it. later, listowner Miles ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:43:27 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: Re: [idealcopy] give 'em enough rope... most unfortunate,but even I,a fan of Graeme's prose,gotta agree with Miles on this one.(sigh).Maybe Tim can take over,he has demonstrated he can do it............Ari Miles Goosens wrote:I said to Graeme: >Shall you uns*bscribe, or shall I do it for you? Actually, I've gone ahead and done it. later, listowner Miles Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:16:05 -0800 From: "Eric Klaver" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] give 'em enough rope... Miles: >Is there no boundary that you won't cross? This goes beyond the pale of jocular rib-tickling and into the realm of actionable slander. ////////////////////////// I thought the very same thing as I read Bill's post. Extremely irresponsible and repugnant. I don't mind political activism on this list but this one smacks of a personal axe grinding. Eric in Toronto ____________________________________________________________ Free 20MB Web Site Hosting and Personalized E-mail Service! 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This one is wild and a little spooky once you find the ghost in >>> the >>> picture. >>> >>> It took me a minute or so to find it, but when you do it just stands >>> out. Like one of those optical illusions. To save you some time, >>> concentrate around the table. >>> >>> Best not to focus too much on one spot. Look around the table and >>> toward >>> the window. >>> >>> Click on the link below for the picture. Turn up the volume, it's >>> faint >>> but you can hear the ghost talking sometimes in a low murmur. It may >>> take a minute or so before you pick out the ghost so give it >>> time..... >>> >>> http://home.attbi.com/~n9ivo/whatswrong.swf [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type multipart/appledouble] [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type multipart/appledouble] Ed Special ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V6 #320 *******************************