From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V6 #318 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Saturday, October 25 2003 Volume 06 : Number 318 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] "earworms" [Bart van Damme ] Re: [idealcopy] BSP on later........and REM ["Jan J Noorda" ] Re: [idealcopy] Of interest... [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] "earworms" [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] BSP on rough trade comp [P J Kane ] FW: [idealcopy] BSP on rough trade comp [Alistair Tear ] Re: [idealcopy] Halloween in the Lou [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] BSP on later........and REM ["Keith Astbury" ] Re: [idealcopy] BSP on later........and REM [Bart van Damme ] Re: [idealcopy] BSP on later........and REM ["Keith Astbury" ] Re: [idealcopy] Halloween in the Lou ["dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] "earworms" I remember (I remember) having had a similar experience with Ahead. Bart > For nearly a year, He Said Omala's "Solid Or Vanish" was my default > ambient background earworm. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:31:38 +0200 From: "Jan J Noorda" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] BSP on later........and REM For me it was a little to slow that Losing My Religion. But it is a great song. Every time I hear it in the neighbourhood on radio or so I have to listen. I can't denie it. I think it is one of their best. And in Jools. My favourite this time Bad Day. Very good performed. Stipe and the others are in a good shape at this moment I suppose. Tonight Josse Homme with Desert Sessions? Starsailor and one of the Highlights of Glastonbury Kanda Bongo Man where John Peel even tried to dance on it. OK it is totally Of Topic for Wire relative music, but as I can remember, that Glastonbury last year, listen to that typical african guitar sound. And indeed you have to move. Jan J. > i would've enjoyed remember me more at the show tonight if the audience > weren't such a bunch of losing posers or posing losers or ploozers! they just > talked louder as teh music got louder...idiots. > > In a message dated 10/23/03 4:01:42 PM, keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: > > >Paul CD will be pleased to know that they played a great version of > > > >Losing My Religion (even if Stipe was a bit on the hoarse side) > > hehe, i wish they'd lose that song. never liked it and don't think i ever > will...especially with stipe praising himself so much for recording a rock song > with a mandolin in it! "it changed music forever" or some such nonsense. > whatever it was he claimed, gimme a break. otherwise, they're a pretty durn good > rock band :o) > > -paul c.d. > > www.mp3.com/winteracademy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:51:31 GMT From: P J Kane Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Halloween in the Lou << supposedly the only documented exorcism ever performed by the catholic church in the u.s. >> are you sure about that? i am Catholic (nominally) and when my family first moved to The South, each parish had several Priests associated with it, which confused me. so i asked in CCD and the Nun told me that there are multiple Priests because The South is considered "missionary territory" and one of the Priests has to be a trained Exorcist in order to perform conversions. and i have heard from multiple sources that when a Protestant, or "other", converts to Catholicism they have to go through a "ritual Exorcism" since (nominally in the Church's eyes these days) being a non-Catholic is wrong and sinful and might be caused by possession..... i have a Catholic friend who married a Protestant and she was going to convert until they told her about the Exorcism part, which she claimed was "too creepy", so she just goes to Mass and all but is not "officially" a Catholic. so i dunno about your claim as to the only real Exorcism. maybe the term for what i am talking about is drastically different from the type of Exorcism you are talking about. perhaps different Priests perform them? or perhaps the folks down here are using the word "Exorcism" in a sloppy manner.... PJK please don't hate me because i can't type..... - --- All the cool kids are doing it: HTTP://www.EvilSponge.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:41:10 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Of interest... Listed as a forthcoming release in the Recommended Records catalogue... THE HOMOSEXUALS The Homosexuals CD [F]B ReR HS1 The Homosexuals appeared, stunned everyone who heard them and then disappeared. Between 1978 and 1982 they released 2 singles and a 12b EP. The three of them individually, under various names, also released a stack of other material, but as The Homosexuals they, curiously, left a whole archive of unreleased material lying around on tape with no idea of releasing it. When everyone had moved on, I was given all the masters and a invitation - if I was really still interested, to get on with it. For them it was already ancient history. I thought then, and think now, that this trio producedB far and away the best this genre ever achieved; to the point that it transcends the genre, even as it epitomises it.B This music is just perfect: endlessly inventive, frighteningly memorable, brilliantly arranged - and performedB with throwaway genius, as if tomorrow had been cancelled. What is it? Post Punk, sort of, except with too many chords, too much turned around rhythm - where a horror of droning on meets a mass of inspired detail and still results in a pellucid simplicity. Great texts, three unique singing voices, absurdity, criminal talent and a lot of blackness, in every sense. OK, so some of the recording quality was a bit lo-fi, but these were songs thrown off like sweat; and in the hurry, some of the most radical mixing I ever heard from the period got fixed onto these recordings. Recommended released The Homosexuals LP in1984, gleaned from the surviving tapes, nearly all of which derived from one intense period of work. For this overdue CD reissue I went through all the surviving material again there are 8 extra tracks, and they are not B sidesB and then re-mastered everything again to the highest possible current standardB without compromising the music.B This is gold dust. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:50:55 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] "earworms" In a message dated 10/23/03 8:12:21 PM Central Daylight Time, edspecial@digitalrealm.net writes: > The phenomenon has spanned the ages. In 1882, Mark Twain wrote in a > short story of an annoying "jingling rhyme" that became indelibly > lodged in the author's mind until he passed the curse along to another > hapless victim. ahh, another great St. Louisan who had great ghost stories to tell...need to put something of his on my tour RL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 14:36:21 GMT From: P J Kane Subject: Re: [idealcopy] BSP on rough trade comp being the big ol' Cocteau Twins geek that i am, i ordered "Stop Me If You Think That You've Heard This One Before", the 25th anniversary Rough Trade compilation. this is a thing wherein some artists covered soem Rough Trade artists, and, despite the titling, does not feature any Smiths covers! Liz Fraser (ex-CT) and her new beau (ex-Spiritualized) do a cover of a Robert Wyatt song. it's ... well, underwhelming really. but then again, i wouldn't know Robery Wyatt if he bit me in the ass! anyway, there is a BSP song on the comp, some tune called "Tugboats". (i don't have the sleeve with me to see who the original is by.) anyway, their version is pretty durned good if i do say so.... overall though, the compilation is spotty, as these things tend to be. PJK please don't hate me because i can't type..... - --- All the cool kids are doing it: HTTP://www.EvilSponge.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 10:44:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Of interest... On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: > Listed as a forthcoming release in the Recommended Records catalogue... > > THE HOMOSEXUALS > The Homosexuals CD [F]B ReR HS1 Wow! Any Wire fan who hasn't heard this material is in for a treat. Though, now that I say that, I realize this has been on my list of 'holy grail' unreissued albums for long enough that I may overrate it a bit. It's still *pretty* brilliant, I think. a ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:45:43 +0100 From: Alistair Tear Subject: FW: [idealcopy] BSP on rough trade comp That would be Galaxie 500, apparently... A anyway, there is a BSP song on the comp, some tune called "Tugboats". (i don't have the sleeve with me to see who the original is by.) anyway, their version is pretty durned good if i do say so.... please don't hate me because i can't type..... - --- All the cool kids are doing it: HTTP://www.EvilSponge.org ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Transport for London Street Management hereby excludes any warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of this e-mail and any attached transmitted files. 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I generally find that whatever I've just heard in the car (or in a shop) can stay with me for hours. This can be really annoying though, when it's something you hate. On a similar note, does anyone else ever subconsiously break out into song when the song going round and round in your head suddenly forces it's way out without warning. The first time I recall this happening was in a history lesson in school when I interrupted the lesson with - of all things "In the navy, in the..." before I realised that I had brought the lesson to a standstill. "Feel better now, Keith" asked the rather patient teacher... A less amusing example was when I suddenly broke into Pink Flags "How many dead or alive" and one of the people present had recently suffered a breavement. Talk about feeling a twat. Keith np shelleydevoto - buzzkunst ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:08:04 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Halloween in the Lou In a message dated 10/23/03 5:42:59 PM Central Daylight Time, dpbailey@worldnet.att.net writes: > morbid (& perhaps open-minded to a fault) git that i am, this all makes me > want to come up there for your tour! > > dan well Dan, if you can't make the Halloween tour no big deal....if you ever make up to St. Lou, i could give you the tour any old time....it's creepy and melancholy any old time of the year..... last night i went into the vacant old building on a dare at the stroke of midnight...dank, dusty, and dirty old place...floors/ceilings starting to give way....won't be around too much longer i would think..... the St. Louis government, in it's infinite wisdom, is never in much of hurry to demolish dangerous run-down slum buildings...but of course they are always quick to give the old wrecking ball to any of our historical/architectural landmarks....stupid bastards i've been practising my tour the last few nights going through a dry run so to speak...thinking of what to say and how to say it... tonight i'm hitting the Chain of Rocks Bridge....gotta sneak in though because the gates to the entrance are locked at night...(i am the best damn fence/barbed wire climber that the Lou ever produced!..lose my gate keys to the cemetery all the time!) then tommorrow night i am going to scope out the Bubblehead Woods...a forest deep in the heart of one our State Parks where a gruesomely deformed escapee of a local mental institution hid for weeks and killed several teenagers (notorius drinking and smoking hideout with several caves)... i'm seriously thinking of writing a book....don't know if i will keep a book on local historical facts on creepy places or if i will branch out... if i do decide to do it in a larger scope maybe you could give me a hand with stories from the south Dan? RL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:18:09 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] BSP on later........and REM > For me it was a little to slow that Losing My Religion. But it is a great > song. Every time I hear it in the neighbourhood on radio or so I have to > listen. > I can't denie it. I think it is one of their best. I remember the first time I heard this as a new entry in the lower end of the charts and wondered just who the hell it was because it sounded nothing like anything else in the top 40 - at all! Classic track, though the Nick Drake-like Find The River is probably my fave REM track... K. np Todd Terry/Shannon - it's over love 45 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:40:00 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] "earworms" In a message dated 10/24/03 9:56:03 AM Central Daylight Time, keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: > The first time I recall this happening was in a history lesson in school > when I interrupted the lesson with - of all things "In the navy, in the..." > before I realised that I had brought the lesson to a standstill. "Feel > better now, Keith" asked the rather patient teacher... ahh! so you wore leather pants as a lad too? RL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:53:07 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] "earworms" > On a similar note, does anyone else ever subconsiously break out into song > when the song going round and round in your head suddenly forces it's way > out without warning. Hate it when that happens... I turned suppressing into an artform. > The first time I recall this happening was in a history lesson in school > when I interrupted the lesson with - of all things "In the navy, in the..." > before I realised that I had brought the lesson to a standstill. "Feel > better now, Keith" asked the rather patient teacher... Never seen you do it on IC-mail though.... NBOL (now bellowing out loud) YMCA!!! > A less amusing example was when I suddenly broke into Pink Flags "How many > dead or alive" and one of the people present had recently suffered a > breavement. Talk about feeling a twat. Ouch... well, perhaps they thought: "What an appropriate little tune!" :-[ Bart NBOL: NO NO... NO NO NO NO... NO NO NO NO... NO NO THERE'S NO LIMITS!!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:08:47 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] BSP on later........and REM > I remember the first time I heard this as a new entry in the lower end of > the charts and wondered just who the hell it was because it sounded nothing > like anything else in the top 40 - at all! Classic track, though the Nick > Drake-like Find The River is probably my fave REM track... That's the first time I've heard someone giving Find The River a special mention. It's somewhere in my REM top 3 songs! Nick Drake like you say? I still haven't checked him out... but maybe I will now! Bart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 11:22:45 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [idealcopy] BSP on later........and REM At 06:08 PM 10/24/2003 +0200, Bart van Damme wrote: >> I remember the first time I heard this as a new entry in the lower end of >> the charts and wondered just who the hell it was because it sounded nothing >> like anything else in the top 40 - at all! Classic track, though the Nick >> Drake-like Find The River is probably my fave REM track... > >That's the first time I've heard someone giving Find The River a special >mention. It's somewhere in my REM top 3 songs! Nick Drake like you say? I >still haven't checked him out... but maybe I will now! Do check out Nick Drake. As for "Find the River," I like it, but I like its neighbor "Nightswimming" more, and I always really wish that R.E.M. hadn't put these two "ending songs" back to back -- if they'd held one back for a b-side or for the next record, both songs would have a chance to shine on their own. Plus this sequencing choice only makes AUTOMATIC even more unbearably torporiffic. (Though if it's New Adventures in Torpor that you want, UP and REVEAL make AUTOMATIC seem like ROCKET TO RUSSIA.) later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 17:50:32 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] "earworms" > > The first time I recall this happening was in a history lesson in school > > when I interrupted the lesson with - of all things "In the navy, in the..." > > before I realised that I had brought the lesson to a standstill. "Feel > > better now, Keith" asked the rather patient teacher... > > ahh! so you wore leather pants as a lad too? Not at all. I wore a sailors suit ; ) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 18:00:57 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] BSP on later........and REM > Do check out Nick Drake. Yes. Do!!! Only three official albums and everyone's a winner (or to quote Alan Vega as he mumbles through one of the great cover versions of all time, "Everyone everyone everyone's a winner, baby, everyone....". Etc! > As for "Find the River," I like it, but I like its neighbor "Nightswimming" more, and I always really wish that R.E.M. hadn't put these two "ending songs" back to back -- if they'd held one back for a b-side or for the next record, both songs would have a chance to shine on their own. You would have enjoyed them on Later last week then. Thought the version of Nightswimming was excellent. > (Though if it's New Adventures in Torpor that you want, UP and REVEAL make AUTOMATIC seem like ROCKET TO RUSSIA.) Played Reveal a couple of days back. Not their best I think it's fair to say. But Up...I liked that one a lot. Lotus was a fab 45, reminded me of Love is the Drug era Roxy for some reason. They put in some *great* performances of Lotus on UK telly round that time. I couldn't understand why it wasn't a bigger hit to be honest. Keith np st julian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 13:50:10 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: FW: [idealcopy] BSP on rough trade comp > anyway, there is a BSP song on the comp, some tune called "Tugboats". (i > don't have the sleeve with me to see who the original is by.) anyway, their > version is pretty durned good if i do say so.... Indeed, by the mighty Galaxie 500. Tugboat, not tugboats. It concerns the unusual career path of Sterling Morrison, and as such is very BSP-ish in concept. G500 arew massiveliy influential on a lot of the current crop of bands - especially INterpol. M ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:45:47 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] BSP on later........ No, Stipe doesn't look great, but he's looked like that for years now so I guess that's his preference. He certainly performs like someone at the top of their game. The way he smiled at Mills after finishing the lyric was a great moment - still love in that band after so long together. Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Keith Astbury I know Michael Stipe has never exactly looked like a picture of health, but he really doesn't look good at the moment, does he. His watching of Mills playing the piano on a really good Nightswimming was pretty touching, though. Paul CD will be pleased to know that they played a great version of Losing My Religion (even if Stipe was a bit on the hoarse side) Keith. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 15:33:34 -0500 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Halloween in the Lou good question ... i'm not sure at all, but was only passing on what appeared in a movie review. i'll be looking into it, if only out of morbid curiosity. god (no pun intended) knows, i'd have thought there'd be a whole lot more than *one* in the 200-odd years this country has been around. maybe the others weren't, i dunno, formally ok'd through the vatican, or something? having been raised southern baptist (of which i repented some 30 years ago, thank you very much), i have no idea how that might work. dan ><< supposedly the only documented exorcism ever performed by the catholic church in the u.s. >> > >are you sure about that? i am Catholic (nominally) and when my family first moved to The South, each parish had several Priests associated with it, which confused me. so i asked in CCD and the Nun told me that there are multiple Priests because The South is considered "missionary territory" and one of the Priests has to be a trained Exorcist in order to perform conversions. and i have heard from multiple sources that when a Protestant, or "other", converts to Catholicism they have to go through a "ritual Exorcism" since (nominally in the Church's eyes these days) being a non-Catholic is wrong and sinful and might be caused by possession..... > >i have a Catholic friend who married a Protestant and she was going to convert until they told her about the Exorcism part, which she claimed was "too creepy", so she just goes to Mass and all but is not "officially" a Catholic. > >so i dunno about your claim as to the only real Exorcism. maybe the term for what i am talking about is drastically different from the type of Exorcism you are talking about. perhaps different Priests perform them? or perhaps the folks down here are using the word "Exorcism" in a sloppy manner.... > >PJK > >please don't hate me because i can't type..... >--- >All the cool kids are doing it: >HTTP://www.EvilSponge.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:48:37 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] BSP on later........and REM >> As for "Find the River," I like it, but I like its neighbor >> "Nightswimming" more, and I always really wish that R.E.M. hadn't put these >> two "ending songs" back to back -- if they'd held one back for a b-side or >> for the next record, both songs would have a chance to shine on their own. > You would have enjoyed them on Later last week then. Thought the version of > Nightswimming was excellent. Wonderfull version indeed! On a first hearing I remember thinking it to be a bit of a lesser track - the singing melody resembled Radio Song so much, but after all these years Nightswimming aged better for me than Radio Song. >> I know Michael Stipe has never exactly looked like a picture of health, but >> he really doesn't look good at the moment, does he. His watching of Mills >> playing the piano on a really good Nightswimming was pretty touching, >> though. Paul CD will be pleased to know that they played a great version of >> Losing My Religion (even if Stipe was a bit on the hoarse side) > No, Stipe doesn't look great, but he's looked like that for years now so > I guess that's his preference. He certainly performs like someone at > the top of their game. The way he smiled at Mills after finishing the > lyric was a great moment - still love in that band after so long > together. I'm not too worried about Michael's looks btw. Sure he's skinny, but his eyes they carry him all the way (perhaps he's just on one of them vegan diets?). Still can't think of a performer who does a better job than Stipe - and I don't just mean contemporary contestants. Bart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 23:08:17 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Halloween in the Lou - Read this? >>> supposedly the only documented exorcism ever performed by the catholic >>> church in the u.s. >> are you sure about that? > good question ... i'm not sure at all, but was only passing on what appeared > in a movie review. i'll be looking into it, if only out of morbid curiosity. > god (no pun intended) knows, i'd have thought there'd be a whole lot more > than *one* in the 200-odd years this country has been around. maybe the > others weren't, i dunno, formally ok'd through the vatican, or something? > having been raised southern baptist (of which i repented some 30 years ago, > thank you very much), i have no idea how that might work. Interesting! This book will probably shed some light on the subject. -Bart http://www.csicop.org/si/2003-01/exorcism.html Book Review American Exorcism: Expelling Demons in the Land of Plenty By Michael Cuneo. Doubleday, New York, 2001. ISBN: 0-385-50176-5. Hardcover, $24.95. For skeptics and most other people, the word exorcism immediately evokes images of Catholic priests, holy water, and bizarre, other-worldly behavior. Most of the popular literature and media coverage focus exclusively on this Hollywood version of modern exorcism, a vicarious adventure into the dangerous side of religious experience. American Exorcism takes us beyond such clichi into the real believing subculture and the broader phenomena of demonology and ritual. Author Michael Cuneo who teaches anthropology and sociology at Fordham University in New York City delves deeply into modern American beliefs in demon possession and the various practices of demon expulsion. Although his opening chapters focus mostly on exorcism as a Roman Catholic ritual, Cuneo is quick to disabuse readers of the common assumption that the task of expelling demons is limited to priests. His later chapters closely examine the history and current practice of Middle-America exorcism the deliverance ministries of Baptist, Charismatic, and Pentecostal churches and deliverance groups. Cuneo is also careful to make sure the reader understands that although Protestant deliverance ministry and the resurgent Catholic rite of exorcism are essentially grass-roots practices, the renewed popular belief can be credited almost entirely to Hollywood. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:14:28 -0500 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] "earworms" >> For nearly a year, He Said Omala's "Solid Or Vanish" was my default >> ambient background earworm. > >There was hardly a day in the early 80's when one of either Ha Ha I'm >Drowning, Zimbo or - less obviously as it was an older track - Lennon's >Whatever Gets You Through the Night, weren't playing in my head! > >I generally find that whatever I've just heard in the car (or in a shop) can >stay with me for hours. This can be really annoying though, when it's >something you hate. > >On a similar note, does anyone else ever subconsiously break out into song >when the song going round and round in your head suddenly forces it's way >out without warning. > >The first time I recall this happening was in a history lesson in school >when I interrupted the lesson with - of all things "In the navy, in the..." >before I realised that I had brought the lesson to a standstill. "Feel >better now, Keith" asked the rather patient teacher... > >A less amusing example was when I suddenly broke into Pink Flags "How many >dead or alive" and one of the people present had recently suffered a >breavement. Talk about feeling a twat. > >Keith i've had it happen with "zyklon ... zyklon zyklon b ... zombie." good thing i wasn't around anyone of the neo-nazi (or for that matter jewish) persuasion. dan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 16:23:22 -0500 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Halloween in the Lou >i'm seriously thinking of writing a book....don't know if i will keep a book >on local historical facts on creepy places or if i will branch out... > >if i do decide to do it in a larger scope maybe you could give me a hand with >stories from the south Dan? jesus, yes. at the very least, the famed bell witch haunting site in rural tennessee -- the most remarkable poltergeist (or something) episode in the history of the u.s., if not the world (it beats the isle of man's case of gef the talking mongoose all hollow, i must say) -- deserves a book unto itself. by coincidence, while going through a box of old coverless comics from my childhood i came across the yellowed issue of ripley's believe it or not true demons & monsters, dated 4/71, that introduced me not only to the bell witch phenomenon but also good ol' springheel jack, along with #19 & its one-pager on the 11/62 british predecessor to west virginia's mothman scare. my enthusiasms may be pitiable, by god, but at least they're long-established. dan >RL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:56:54 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Qua diddley qua qua In a message dated 10/18/03 6:02:53 AM, keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: >By '75 Bolan was a champagne guzzling cokehead who's career was going awry. >In 1985 Ant appeared at Live Aid. > >Bolan died and hopefully went to a better place. >Ant, well, he moved to America ; ) those are pretty funny comparisons (not to laugh at bolan dying or anything like that, but that the two careers ran fairly parallel cept for the live aid and moving to america bits) who remembers his semi-self parodying role on northern exposure in 1992? more interesting though might be to wonder what 1982 tv series would've interested marc bolan for a guest spot? - -paul c.d. www.mp3.com/winteracademy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 02:16:39 +0100 From: "Tim" Subject: [idealcopy] Rapid Arse Movement leads to British Shite Power Seriously though.... Am I the only person on this list who thinks REM are a bunch of tedious, whining, airline-stewardess-annoying, confusing a tea trolley for a CD-player, Mandolin-fixated bores and peddlers of the most smug, US College Radio bollocks ever made? God forbid, If I went blind tomorrow at least I could console myself by not having to see Michael Stipes pulsating veiny forehead as he whines his way through yet another melodramatic REM 'classic', with his 'ironic' blue stripe across his eyes on every single frigging programme on every single frigging TV and radio channel ever apart from Al Jazeera...and he's probably on that as well.... And Am I the only person who thinks that BSP are basically Shed Seven dressed as WW2 Air Raid Wardens in front of some 'ironic' foliage? Enough already! Its enough to make you want to follow Killing Joke on tour! ASTEROID! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2003 22:23:39 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Rapid Arse Movement leads to British Shite Power In a message dated 10/24/03 9:17:47 PM, tim@kidsindestructible.com writes: >Seriously though.... > > > >Am I the only person on this list who thinks REM are a bunch of tedious, > >whining, airline-stewardess-annoying, confusing a tea trolley for a > >CD-player, Mandolin-fixated bores and peddlers of the most smug, US College > >Radio bollocks ever made? > >God forbid, If I went blind tomorrow at least I could console myself by >not > >having to see Michael Stipes pulsating veiny forehead as he whines his >way > >through yet another melodramatic REM 'classic', with his 'ironic' blue > >stripe across his eyes on every single frigging programme on every single > >frigging TV and radio channel ever apart from Al Jazeera...and he's probably > >on that as well.... > > > >And Am I the only person who thinks that BSP are basically Shed Seven > >dressed as WW2 Air Raid Wardens in front of some 'ironic' foliage? > > > >Enough already! > >Its enough to make you want to follow Killing Joke on tour! ASTEROID! i think the politically correct term is flight attendant. :o) seriously though, i have nothing against rem, cept that i had a crush on a girl whose ex-boyfriend was michael stipe...how was i gonna compete with that? and oh yeah, that mandolin...damn, if ya didn't make such a big deal over it i probably woulda looked the other way...well that woulda been tough with it being played every 15 minutes on every radio station in ny for what seemed like years. heck, it still gets major airplay on more than one station here. but really, i don't dislike them. i just never bought anything by them. i do have document (or is it life's rich pageant? i'm not sure which) somewhere around here. i did see them once because grant lee buffalo was opening up and i liked their show very much. as i stated in an earlier post, i like british sea power a lot. i just thought they pushed the rock image thing a bit too much when i saw them last night. cool band though. i look forward to seeing/hearing more. - -paul c.d. www.mp3.com/winteracademy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2003 09:21:01 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Rapid Arse Movement leads to British Shite Power > God forbid, If I went blind tomorrow at least I could console myself by not > having to see Michael Stipes pulsating veiny forehead as he whines his way > through yet another melodramatic REM 'classic', with his 'ironic' blue > stripe across his eyes Don't you like it Tim? I was thinking of getting one myself. Just not quite sure if blue's my colour ; ) > mandolin...damn, if ya didn't make such a big deal over it i > probably woulda looked the other way...well that woulda been tough with it > being played every 15 minutes on every radio station in ny for what seemed like > years. I've only been to the States twice in my life. Once was the summer of '91 (Florida) and every single record shop I went in - and I went in every one I found, of course! - there were Losing My Religion and Shiny Happy People playing away. Not that I minded. I expected REO Speedwagon ; ) K. ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V6 #318 *******************************