From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V6 #279 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Saturday, September 20 2003 Volume 06 : Number 279 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] the monkey power trio ["Keith Astbury" ] Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP [Andrew Walkingshaw ] Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP [Bart van Damme ] Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP [RLynn9@aol.com] [idealcopy] this is uncool ["Keith Astbury" ] Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] this is uncool [Andrew Walkingshaw ] Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP [Bart van Damme ] Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP [Bart van Damme ] Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP [Bart van Damme ] Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP ["Keith Astbury" ] Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP ["Keith Astbury" ] Re: [idealcopy] DVDs [Paul Pietromonaco ] Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] [idealcopy] Sounds on 'watch take care'. (need samples) [bigmuff asdasd <] [idealcopy] Track i.d. for 80's electronic song. [bigmuff asdasd ] Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP [Ed Special ] Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP [Santa Cruzer ] Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP [Ed Special ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 10:40:30 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] the monkey power trio Did anyone else hear The Monkey Power Trio on Peel last month. This from their website (the download is basically Peel talking about it, and reading comments out from listeners (debate: are they great or are they shit? The answer I suspect is both!) Unfortunately, the show doesn't appear to be archived on JP's homepage anymore. I like what they have to say on theirs though. Welcome John Peel Listeners! Apparently, we're "pants"! We've had much fun hearing from you all. Our merchandise fulfillment robots are humming to and fro trying to fill your orders as we speak. If you missed the show, we have a little of it here for you (1100k). The song he played was "You Gotta Have Hope" off of our 1998 record. Mr. Peel has his own website where the show is currently archived in its entirety. We don't know how long he keeps those up so head over there quickly. It was his Wednesday 20/08/03 show (that's 08/20/03 for you American fans). - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- The Monkey Power Trio only plays one day a year. On that day, they only work for a few hours. In that time, they somehow always manage to create works of inspired genius. - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- The Monkey Power Trio is not a hoax. A gimmick, yes, but not a hoax. Our pledge (to you the listener and to ourselves) to play together once a year every year and release the best of our efforts until the last of us alive does a solo album has been kept for another year. We are busy people. We are not "musicians." We don't sleep late or sit around in cafes in the afternoon. We are certainly not rock stars. So it takes us a while to put things together. Now, in June, 2003, we have just released our 2002 record. We have called it "Almost Clear" and we have packaged it in clear materials. You can see through everything, even the vinyl. The graphic design allows you to simultaneously look at and through the album, just as the songs allow you to listen at and through the music. If you do not buy the actual thingness of the record you will not experience the visionary opportunities this work offers. We have strived for clarity on this album, just as you all strive for clarity in your lives. We hope you can see that. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 15:59:19 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP > Idealcopy Magazine. Like it! > > Mark Not bad indeed! It has to be a international one don't you think? IC could make a great logo (using the phonetic "I see") B(art-director) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 15:02:42 +0100 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP On Fri, Sep 19, 2003 at 03:59:19PM +0200, Bart van Damme wrote: > > Idealcopy Magazine. Like it! > > > > Mark > > > Not bad indeed! It has to be a international one don't you think? > > IC could make a great logo (using the phonetic "I see") > > B(art-director) Now all that would be needed are several journalists, a copy editor, contacts with all the interesting record labels, publishing, and advertising. Cinch, n'est-ce pas? :-) - - Andrew (teaboy, in all likelihood) - -- home - email: andrew@lexical.org.uk http://www.lexical.org.uk/ work - email: adw27@esc.cam.ac.uk http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ radio: http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ blog: http://www.lexical.org.uk/blog/ "/Peep/". 'Yes?' "More cooookiessssss..." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 16:37:42 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP >>> Idealcopy Magazine. Like it! >>> >>> Mark >> Not bad indeed! It has to be a international one don't you think? >> >> IC could make a great logo (using the phonetic "I see") >> >> B(art-director) > Now all that would be needed are several journalists, a copy editor, > contacts with all the interesting record labels, publishing, and > advertising. > Cinch, n'est-ce pas? :-) > - Andrew (teaboy, in all likelihood) Teaboy? Are you kidding? It was your idea to begin with. You're gonna have to boss all us 40-somethings (sorry Ari, 60-somethings too) around. Better learn to smoke Cubans and dress sharp Mr. Suit-like! ;-) The journalists each would have to have their specialization of course. Who would cover which field... I mean like Mark would of course be our Factory anorak and Keith A. our glamboy ("glamboyant" - whatta ya know, I just made a new word). Robert L. could cover 80's and Kraut? Who else? Just mail these application forms to Andrew guys. ;-) Bart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 10:48:39 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP In a message dated 9/19/03 9:38:56 AM Central Daylight Time, bartvandamme@home.nl writes: > The journalists each would have to have their specialization of course. Who > would cover which field... I mean like Mark would of course be our Factory > anorak and Keith A. our glamboy ("glamboyant" - whatta ya know, I just made > a new word). Robert L. could cover 80's and Kraut? > yeah...that sounds great...but there are plenty onthe list who know waaay more about 80's stuff than i do...i only really know about the electronic/synth groups of that era..my true calling would be electronic/experimental music of now...which of course would also be covered in fine fashion by Graeme and Tim..who would also simply HAVE to be the rock/post rock/experimental rock/avant rock/fringe rock correspondent...it's so obvious RL p.s. and Keith A also gets my vote for the pop singles reviewer..that man is definitely on top of his game... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 15:55:23 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] this is uncool I thought I'd mention a book I bought last week. 'The 500 Greatest Singles Since Punk & Disco' (subtitled 'This Is Uncool') is one man's (Time Out writer Gary Mullholland) list of greats, and as these things go, it's pretty good (i.e. it features a lot of things that * I * like!) Two Wire singles - I Am The Fly and Outdoor Miner - are in it, together with stuff by Joy Division, The Fall (Rowche Rumble & Totally Wired), Teardrops, MBV, Magazine, etc. And loads by the PSB's and Smiths! There's also some great 'disco' stuff that I love - Inside Out (Odyssey), That's The Way Love Is (Ten City), Big Fun (Inner City), Burn Rubber On Me (Gap Band), and the odd record that I have to admit to not knowing (I can't say I know Afro Puffs by The Lady of Rage! It's a Dre produced Death Row record apparently.) Anywa, this is what it said about the two Wire 45's... I AM THE FLY / EX-LION TAMER "And in another part of London, more art-punks were sneering at the television, "There's great danger...stay glued to your tv set", Wire wheedled exasperatedly on Ex-Lion Tamer, the nearest they were prepared to to go the usual punk concerns. They might have begun as the most notoriously inept musicians to feature on the Live at the Roxy showcase (1), but Hornsey Art College students, N,L, BC and RG wre quick learners. Doomed to commercial failure despite having the commercial might of EMI behind them, they split, re-formed, and have become pointlessly avant garde (2), while their early records have slowly them made them into British punk's most directly influential group. One American band formed in the 80's to do nothing but play the entirity of Wire's 1st album, PF. Newman's vocals remain the ultimate in cockney nagging and Wire concocted a music to fit. Influenced by Syd Barrett-era Pink Floyd, but too original to be pinned down to it, they made records like I Am The Fly - gleefully imagining themselves spreading disease, subverting the glam-metal stomp, inventing the gtr sounds that invented Blur and Elastica, and writing choruses that broke every known rule about scanning and rhyming while simultaneously worming their wy into your head until you pleaded for mercy. I Am The Fly also has fantastic handclaps. OUTDOOR MINER The nearest thing Wire got to a hit because, despite no radio play and little promotion, it was so glorious in melody and texture that the few who heard it had to buy it. There are many who think that all pop should have turned out like this, the apotheosis of what NME writer and future pop-propagandist Paul Morley labelled 'New Pop' ("a rock music that retains all the myths, imagination, romance and ambiguities of rock&roll, whilst simultaneously insisting upon honesty, simplicity, adventure and relevance"). Elusive in meaning (maybe some kind of hymn to evolution, maybe not), allusive in sound, graceful and warm almost despite it's maverick ambition, Outdoor Miner proved that punks could do the beauty thing too (3). Nicely laid out, 7" single size hardback, available for #8 in Music Zone (rrp #17.99) for those UK subscribers who like this sort of thing... Keith (1) Really? (2) Ooh! Controversial! (3) And I've proved I can do this parenthesis thing too, Andrew ; ) NP Wire - P.F. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 10:54:24 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP In a message dated 9/19/03 9:49:50 AM Central Daylight Time, RLynn9@aol.com writes: > who would also simply HAVE to be the rock/post rock/experimental rock/avant > rock/fringe rock correspondent...it's so obvious that was supposed to read: correspondents with an "S" on the end.. RL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 15:59:17 +0100 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] this is uncool On Fri, Sep 19, 2003 at 03:55:23PM +0100, Keith Astbury wrote: > I thought I'd mention a book I bought last week. 'The 500 Greatest > Singles Since Punk & Disco' (subtitled 'This Is Uncool') is one > man's (Time Out writer Gary Mullholland) list of greats, and as > these things go, it's pretty good (i.e. it features a lot of things > that * I * like!) I was given it by a friend[1] for Christmas last year. I really like it. :-) - - A (sucker for nerdy rock history) [1] Not that people have a stereotyped image of me or anything, you understand. > (3) And I've proved I can do this parenthesis thing too, Andrew ; ) All hail footnotes. I prefer the [square bracket] form used in physics journals, though, probably because of familiarity :-). The real reason I use them is because that's the way I think; I go off on tangents and occasionally land somewhere interesting. np Delgados - "Domestiques" - -- home - email: andrew@lexical.org.uk http://www.lexical.org.uk/ work - email: adw27@esc.cam.ac.uk http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ radio: http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ blog: http://www.lexical.org.uk/blog/ "/Peep/". 'Yes?' "More cooookiessssss..." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 16:01:16 +0100 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP On Fri, Sep 19, 2003 at 10:54:24AM -0400, RLynn9@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 9/19/03 9:49:50 AM Central Daylight Time, RLynn9@aol.com > writes: [Bill and Tim's Excellent Post-Rock Adventure] >> who would also simply HAVE to be the rock/post rock/experimental >> rock/avant rock/fringe rock correspondents...it's so obvious Those two? Together? All I have to say to that is: Our own correspondent is sorry to tell Of an uneasy time - all is not well ... - - A - -- email: andrew@lexical.org.uk http://www.lexical.org.uk/ Earth Sciences, University of Cambridge http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ DJ, CUR1350 - http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ blog: http://www.lexical.org.uk/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 17:02:24 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP >> The journalists each would have to have their specialization of course. Who >> would cover which field... I mean like Mark would of course be our Factory >> anorak and Keith A. our glamboy ("glamboyant" - whatta ya know, I just made >> a new word). Robert L. could cover 80's and Kraut? > yeah...that sounds great...but there are plenty onthe list who know waaay > more about 80's stuff than i do...i only really know about the > electronic/synth > groups of that era..my true calling would be electronic/experimental music of > now...which of course would also be covered in fine fashion by Graeme and > Tim..who would also simply HAVE to be the rock/post rock/experimental > rock/avant rock/fringe rock correspondent... it's so obvious > RL Hehe... Glad I'm not in Andrew's shoes - trying to keep these devided spirits together. Perhaps Andrew and Miles could share the desk. ;-) > p.s. and Keith A also gets my vote for the pop singles reviewer..that man is > definitely on top of his game... Oh absolutely! Bart (if ever a punk-meets-Golden-Earring topic should arise you know where to find me) van Damme (aka ol' Twinkle Toes) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 17:03:42 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP >> who would also simply HAVE to be the rock/post rock/experimental rock/avant >> rock/fringe rock correspondent...it's so obvious > > that was supposed to read: correspondents with an "S" on the end.. I see you already working on your spellingtest Robert. Gooood! ;-) Bart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 17:06:41 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP >>> who would also simply HAVE to be the rock/post rock/experimental >>> rock/avant rock/fringe rock correspondents...it's so obvious > Those two? Together? All I have to say to that is: > Our own correspondent is sorry to tell > Of an uneasy time - all is not well ... Hmmm... quite catchy... add a nice tune... hmmm... Bart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 16:12:20 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP > > I mean like Mark would of course be our Factory > > anorak and Keith A. our glamboy ("glamboyant" - whatta ya know, I just made > > a new word). Robert L. could cover 80's and Kraut? I'd quite like to edit the problem page. Feel free to tell me all your problems and your deepest, darkest secrets. I won't tell a soul ; ) Auntie Keith np benny benassi - satisfaction ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 11:08:47 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP In a message dated 9/19/03 10:01:50 AM Central Daylight Time, andrew-wire@lexical.org.uk writes: > [Bill and Tim's Excellent Post-Rock Adventure] > > >> who would also simply HAVE to be the rock/post rock/experimental > >> rock/avant rock/fringe rock correspondents...it's so obvious > > Those two? Together? All I have to say to that is: > > Our own correspondent is sorry to tell > Of an uneasy time - all is not well ... > > - A > no, don't you see? the tension would create an entertaining point/counter-point type column....they could review all the same live shows together...it would be like the old Saturday Night Live sketch with Dan Ackroyd and Jane Curtain where Dab always rebuffs Jane's reviews or comments by saying: "Jane you ignorant slut" just a thought... i think it would be fun to hang out with either one of them...especially together RL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 11:10:40 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP In a message dated 9/19/03 10:08:49 AM Central Daylight Time, keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: > I'd quite like to edit the problem page. Feel free to tell me all your > problems and your deepest, darkest secrets. > > I won't tell a soul ; ) > > Auntie Keith would you be sitting at a desk in a feather boa and leather trousers? (sorry it's been a while...i couldn't resist) RL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 16:21:10 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP > > I'd quite like to edit the problem page. Feel free to tell me all your > > problems and your deepest, darkest secrets. > > > > I won't tell a soul ; ) > > > > Auntie Keith > > would you be sitting at a desk in a feather boa and leather trousers? So how long have you been having these fantasies? (sorry, just getting into the swing of things!) A.K. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 18:42:27 -0700 From: Paul Pietromonaco Subject: Re: [idealcopy] DVDs >Perhaps you could explain why many widescreen DVDs, have the subtitles on >the black band at the bottom of the screen?! You buy a widescreen TV and end >up having to set it up to watch in 4:3 format if you want to be able to read >the subtitles! Proper widescreen films aren't so bad, as you can move the >picture up so that the top black band disappears, and the bottom one gets >bigger - allowing all the subtitles to be seen. But it's the ones produced >in 16:9 format that cause the problem. > > Pardon me for jumping in here, but I'm just curious. Do you have the DVD player set to widescreen? Or just the TV? I don't have a widescreen TV, but it's my understanding that you have to set the DVD player to Widescreen mode for widescreen TVs when playing 16:9 "electronic widescreen" discs. This should eliminate the black borders and put the subtitles on the picture instead. When I play 16:9 "electronic widescreen" discs in my DVD player set to 4:3, I get black bands top and bottom with the subtitles in the lower black band. When I set the DVD player to 16:9 mode, I get a full screen "narrow" picture - which is stretched for playback on widescreen TVs - but the subtitles are moved up into the picture area, and there's no black borders at the top or bottom. Just my 2 cents worth. Good luck! (^_^) Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 16:33:55 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP In a message dated 9/19/03 11:04:57 AM, bartvandamme@home.nl writes: >>> who would also simply HAVE to be the rock/post rock/experimental rock/avant >>> rock/fringe rock correspondent...it's so obvious >> >> that was supposed to read: correspondents with an "S" on the end.. > >I see you already working on your spellingtest Robert. Gooood! ;-) well, even though i was proofreader for the village noize, i'd like to avoid being sucked in again to that position at IC, simply due to lack of time. i mean, if we're really gonna get this project off the ground (and we ARE aren't we?), i can't be holding up the works when andrew has deadlines to meet! i could consult with bart on overall design, typography, etc...ya know, just give things a 'once over' from an extra pair of eyes. anyway, i'd be better suited to review ny gigs (which i also did a bit of for vn), dontcha think? your eastern standard correspondent... - -paul (is there really no other ICer from ny?) c.d. www.mp3.com/winteracademy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 18:43:55 -0700 (PDT) From: bigmuff asdasd Subject: [idealcopy] Sounds on 'watch take care'. (need samples) If anyone has the ability to put up(mp3 oor wma) those individual sounds in seperate samples, like the grinding noise and keybpards at the begining it would be most appreciated. Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 18:48:37 -0700 (PDT) From: bigmuff asdasd Subject: [idealcopy] Track i.d. for 80's electronic song. Track i.d. it's a complete synth oriented song. Has sort of a "the the-infected" drum pattern although not as intense and a bit different. There's some nice keyboards in this but can't hum them. the lyrics go something like this, "they make history, they make the law, they make money and they make war, power corrupt and power suceeds, i may be a drag but i don't brag." has synth stabs here and there. anyone know this? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 02:55:38 +0100 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP On Fri, Sep 19, 2003 at 04:33:55PM -0400, Eardrumbuz@aol.com wrote: > well, even though i was proofreader for the village noize, i'd like > to avoid being sucked in again to that position at IC, simply due to > lack of time. i mean, if we're really gonna get this project off the > ground (and we ARE aren't we?), *very profoundly scared*. What the hell is happening here? :-) - - A - -- home - email: andrew@lexical.org.uk http://www.lexical.org.uk/ work - email: adw27@esc.cam.ac.uk http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ radio: http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ blog: http://www.lexical.org.uk/blog/ "/Peep/". 'Yes?' "More cooookiessssss..." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 00:13:18 -0400 From: Ed Special Subject: Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP What about little me? I could maybe be a Jason Blair of The New York Times and sort of, you know make shit up. . . Here in America we do a lot of that, you know . . . Ed Special On Friday, September 19, 2003, at 11:08 AM, RLynn9@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 9/19/03 10:01:50 AM Central Daylight Time, > andrew-wire@lexical.org.uk writes: > >> [Bill and Tim's Excellent Post-Rock Adventure] >> >>>> who would also simply HAVE to be the rock/post rock/experimental >>>> rock/avant rock/fringe rock correspondents...it's so obvious >> >> Those two? Together? All I have to say to that is: >> >> Our own correspondent is sorry to tell >> Of an uneasy time - all is not well ... >> >> - A >> > > no, don't you see? the tension would create an entertaining > point/counter-point type column....they could review all the same live > shows together...it > would be like the old Saturday Night Live sketch with Dan Ackroyd and > Jane Curtain > where Dab always rebuffs Jane's reviews or comments by saying: "Jane > you > ignorant slut" > > just a thought... > > i think it would be fun to hang out with either one of > them...especially > together > > RL ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 00:48:56 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP i wrote: >if we're really gonna get this project off the >> ground (and we ARE aren't we?), to which andrew replied: >*very profoundly scared*. > >What the hell is happening here? :-) i think we've all agreed that there really should be a zine called the ideal copy, and who better to put it together than us?!?!! so who's gonna turn the fantasy to reality? who's young and energetic? let's take a vote. i'll have them counted by me mum in florida. and not that it's really gonna happen, but seriously, it is kinda a good idea, dontcha think? and how far fetched really? a big collaboration could come together quite easily, although it would take one or two to see it through beginning to end. and somebody's gotta invest (or take up a collection from the collaborators) to get it out there. i've only looked at option and the big takeover in recent years. is there anything good out there that appeals to our collective musical tastes? is there even anything at all like that? the ideal copy could fill a void in the zine world. who's got some time on his hands...and a connection at the print shop? :o) - -paul (i am reliving my youth and living it up at www.bubblegum-machine.com) c.d. www.mp3.com/winteracademy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 22:23:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Santa Cruzer Subject: Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP Well I must say this is one of the more interesting threads I've read online on ANY list! That said- I actually work at a printshop in Santa Cruz and have access to 1- and 2-color offset presses, plus every graphic-oriented program you could want. The one caveat is that 4-color images are beyond the scope of our machinery, so glossy/cool-looking mags are not viable. That said, I'd be willing to ask my boss about the possibility of doing a quarterly magazine that has in grayscale or duotones. Since I'm teetering on the brink of bankruptsy, there likely would need to be an 'angel' with some capital to get it all off the ground. Let's keep this thread going!! RJH PS - tomorrow night I am faced with a choice; and evening of tuuvan throat singing (Churcilgan headlining) or Calexico. Any suggestions? > i wrote: > > >if we're really gonna get this project off the > >> ground (and we ARE aren't we?), > > to which andrew replied: > > >*very profoundly scared*. > > > >What the hell is happening here? :-) > > i think we've all agreed that there really should be > a zine called the ideal > copy, and who better to put it together than us?!?!! > so who's gonna turn the > fantasy to reality? who's young and energetic? let's > take a vote. i'll have > them counted by me mum in florida. > > and not that it's really gonna happen, but > seriously, it is kinda a good > idea, dontcha think? and how far fetched really? a > big collaboration could come > together quite easily, although it would take one or > two to see it through > beginning to end. and somebody's gotta invest (or > take up a collection from the > collaborators) to get it out there. i've only looked > at option and the big > takeover in recent years. is there anything good out > there that appeals to our > collective musical tastes? is there even anything at > all like that? the ideal copy > could fill a void in the zine world. who's got some > time on his hands...and a > connection at the print shop? :o) > > -paul (i am reliving my youth and living it up at > www.bubblegum-machine.com) > c.d. > > www.mp3.com/winteracademy __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 01:37:39 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP In a message dated 9/20/03 1:24:38 AM, r_j_h@yahoo.com writes: >Calexico i have not had the pleasure of catching them live yet, but howe gelb/giant sand were great live and the live recordings i've heard by calexico sound real good... and on the topic of "actually printing an ideal copy zine"... maybe malka would be interested in pursuing something along the lines of a publication? i wonder if a quarterly is too ambitious. maybe we could get a show of hands from copyists actually willing to participate in something? - -paul (i'm seeing shack on wednesday. should i bring a pad & pencil?) c.d. www.mp3.com/winteracademy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 02:54:24 -0400 From: Ed Special Subject: Re: [idealcopy] NME RIP On Saturday, September 20, 2003, at 01:23 AM, Santa Cruzer wrote: > > RJH > > PS - tomorrow night I am faced with a choice; and > evening of tuuvan throat singing (Churcilgan > headlining) or Calexico. Any suggestions? tried googling Churcilgan. got nothing. Have seen Huun Huur Tu 3 times and will see them every other chance I get. http://www.huunhuurtu.com/ Richard Feynman has done a lot for tuvan music. http://www.scs-intl.com/trader/frameload.htm?/trader/ta_huun-huur- tu.shtm you can play all the mp3s simultaneously . . . . yay . . yay! Ed ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V6 #279 *******************************