From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V6 #229 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Sunday, August 3 2003 Volume 06 : Number 229 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Witness to the fact [Fergus Kelly ] [idealcopy] crystal gale was......... [Ari Britt ] Re: [idealcopy] OT Crystal Gale Spelling B Jock Wallace ["dan bailey" ] Re: [idealcopy] WIR anagram [Bo Krogsgaard ] [idealcopy] test do not reply ["Stephen Graziano" Subject: [idealcopy] Witness to the fact My Barbican review & (very small selection of) photos is online at last: (Thanks Craig!) http://www.wireviews.com/reviews/live_reviews/0403_barbican_fk.html Comments welcome... Fergus __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 04:31:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] crystal gale was......... ...........in a movie with Tom Waits WAY back when,(early 70's methinks)the movie was great,but it cost so much it bankrupt the studio and they went out of business,anyone remember what the movie was?Aei Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 04:41:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Britt Subject: Fwd: [idealcopy] Witness to the fact Fergus Kelly wrote: http://www.wireviews.com/reviews/live_reviews/0403_barbican_fk.html Comments welcome... Fergus Nice One Fergie,(but can you hold the web-site still whilste I view the 'photo's) Ari >didn't know Robert had 2 heads< (no snickering in the background thankyou) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 13:02:00 +0000 From: "John Roberts" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT Crystal Gale Spelling B Jock Wallace Thanks for the explainations folks but why is it called a 'bee'? Cheers John with sore head http://www.surf.to/ambition >From: "dan bailey" >To: >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT Crystal Gale Spelling B Jock Wallace >Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 20:49:53 -0500 > > >>Spelling B. I assume that this is some kind of spelling test? There's > >>an > >>episode of Larry Sanders Show in which the national spelling b champ is > >>a > >>guest. This was the first time I'd ever heard of such a competition >i.e. > >> > >>there isn't one in the UK (or at least not to my knowledge and certainly > >>not > >>at my schools!). Tho we do have as a national issue at the moment the > >> > >>amount of tests that school children and their teachers are currently >being > >> > >>subjected to. These tests are viewed by teachers as divisive i.e. the > >>kids > >>are split into groups. Hence my feeling that such a test is rather > >>discriminatory; particularly against pupils who are dyslexic. Just a >bit > >> > >>concerned that that might be what you have over there, that's all. It's > >>the > >>old libertarian in me. > > > >not sure what it is in you john, but yes, it's a spelling competition. i > >guess it discriminates against dyslexics the way auto racing >discriminates >against > >the blind :o* did i say that? i do see your point of course, but you >won't > >find pigeon chested me complaining about losing at weightlifting :o) > > > >-paul (wish i could fly like superman) c.d > >lots of schools hold them (mine didn't), with the kids having to spell the >words out orally. the first-place finishers may or may not go on to >district, regional & then state competitions (usually, or maybe always, >sponsored by newspapers), the winners of which then go to the national >competition in washington, d.c. i saw a documentary on the '99 (or maybe it >was 2000) bee a couple of weeks ago ... it's called spellbound, & i >recommend it as highly as i can. sounds dry as dust, but it's anything but. > >dan > >np: intruders, love is like a baseball game _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 09:52:12 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] rock'n'roll (make that: fat HIPPIE) animal > >>>What an absolute classic dream you would want to be in ! > > >>I would? > > >OK maybe not on reflection. > >Sounds a bit like Groundhog Day! > > Story of my life ;-) > I look forward to receiving the same emails from you tomorrow ;-) Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 17:56:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Bo Krogsgaard Subject: [idealcopy] He Said videos (Was: AC Marias / Dome Videos?) On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 PaulRabjohn@aol.com wrote: > there are 4 he said videos (only one i , pump , could you , pulling 3g's). > i've seen crappy copies that i guess came off american cable stations , but i've > never seen an EGL vid on uk tv. p At least Pump was shown on 120 Minutes once. I believe that the still images on the inner sleeve of Hail are from the Only One I video, but my brain is not up to par today so i might be mistaken. b ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 16:10:10 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] AC Marias / Dome Videos? In a message dated 8/1/03 7:08:08 PM Central Daylight Time, edspecial@digitalrealm.net writes: > >>severed heads - alaskan polar bear heater > >> > > > >Oh Yes! Great record.Clifford Darling - Stop Living In The Past. > > Chris > > Oh, if you like it that much, I'll do it again..... > > Ed > unless you 20 twenty deadly diseases.... RL ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 16:14:13 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] AC Marias / Dome Videos? In a message dated 8/1/03 10:53:15 PM Central Daylight Time, oneloveonebagonenil@hotmail.com writes: > np s.heads - lower than the grave........ > > now wait a minute..what's this then? i have mostly all of the Severed Heads stuff and i do not recognize this....probably just a faulty memory wire...refresh my memory please RL np-Durutti Column - Someone Elses Party ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 16:16:08 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] AC Marias / Dome Videos? In a message dated 8/1/03 10:53:15 PM Central Daylight Time, oneloveonebagonenil@hotmail.com writes: > there are 4 he said videos (only one i , pump , could you , pulling 3g's). > i've seen crappy copies that i guess came off american cable stations , but > i've > never seen an EGL vid on uk tv. p > > > yes...i have a promo video from rough trade or double visions (faulty memory again and too lazy to dig it out) ..i snagged it off ebay and it is PAL format..so i had spend $20 to get it transferred to american vhs format...the videos are great... RL ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 16:20:32 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] AC Marias / Dome Videos? In a message dated 8/1/03 11:59:03 PM Central Daylight Time, Eardrumbuz@aol.com writes: > sevs do indeed rule (no offense, remember my email address)...but tom > ellard > is way up there with all other powerful beings worshipped by us mere humans. > > -buz > > one of the nicest guys you will ever meet...and quite hilarious to boot..as if you couldn't tell by his music beforehand RL ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 16:25:15 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Witness to the fact In a message dated 8/2/03 6:42:18 AM Central Daylight Time, threeduggaduggas@yahoo.com writes: > Nice One Fergie,(but can you hold the web-site still whilste I view the > 'photo's) > > Ari >didn't know Robert had 2 heads< (no snickering in the background > thankyou) > somebody had a little too much to drink last night??? ju's kiddin Arister RL ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 17:21:11 -0400 From: Ed Special Subject: Re: [idealcopy] AC Marias / Dome Videos? On Saturday, August 2, 2003, at 04:14 PM, RLynn9@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 8/1/03 10:53:15 PM Central Daylight Time, > oneloveonebagonenil@hotmail.com writes: > >> np s.heads - lower than the grave........ >> >> > > now wait a minute..what's this then? i have mostly all of the Severed > Heads > stuff and i do not recognize this....probably just a faulty memory > wire...refresh my memory please > RL > np-Durutti Column - Someone Elses Party > Also were available on lp, here's some info on SevHeads CD compilations: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/severed-heads/discography/main/since-the- accident-6.html http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/severed-heads/discography/main/city-slab- horror-2.html more SevHeads links: http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/severed-heads/ http://musicmoz.org/Bands_and_Artists/S/Severed_Heads/Links/ http://web.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/severed-heads/discography/main/index.html Ed np Faun Fables - Traveller Returning ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 17:50:42 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT Crystal Gale Spelling B Jock Wallace bart writes: >http://www.pangloss.com/seidel/Poem i entered "Wire" and this is what came out: Wire Old folks and children I tease and I taunt, of a burning four-ply tire I'll crack open my skull, give a manly grunt then i tried "send by wire": send by wire spewing venom throughout the trees you're the abject of my desire It's made me blind. i cant see not bad for a "bad poetry generator" - -p.c.d. www.mp3.com/winteracademy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 15:23:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Britt Subject: Fwd: Re: [idealcopy] rock'n'roll (make that: fat HIPPIE) animal MarkBursa@aol.com wrote: >What an absolute classic dream you would want to be in ! > > >>I would? > > >OK maybe not on reflection. > >Sounds a bit like Groundhog Day! > > Story of my life ;-) > I look forward to receiving the same emails from you tomorrow ;-) Mark SO when are you two getting married? (m)Ari Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 15:26:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] place the ? ....... Arister.......... Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 03:30:17 -0500 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT Crystal Gale Spelling B Jock Wallace my dictionary says the term comes from the dialectical "bean, a social gathering to assist," in turn derived from from the middle english "bene, extra feudal service, a favor, boon," itself from the old english "ben, compulsory service, request." no doubt spelling bees were originally so-called after "husking bees" (where neighbors gathered to shuck corn after the crops were harvested) & the like. dan >Thanks for the explainations folks but why is it called a 'bee'? > >Cheers > >John with sore head > > > >http://www.surf.to/ambition > > > > > >>From: "dan bailey" >>To: >>Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT Crystal Gale Spelling B Jock Wallace >>Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 20:49:53 -0500 >> >> >>Spelling B. I assume that this is some kind of spelling test? There's >> >>an >> >>episode of Larry Sanders Show in which the national spelling b champ is >> >>a >> >>guest. This was the first time I'd ever heard of such a competition >>i.e. >> >> >> >>there isn't one in the UK (or at least not to my knowledge and certainly >> >>not >> >>at my schools!). Tho we do have as a national issue at the moment the >> >> >> >>amount of tests that school children and their teachers are currently >>being >> >> >> >>subjected to. These tests are viewed by teachers as divisive i.e. the >> >>kids >> >>are split into groups. Hence my feeling that such a test is rather >> >>discriminatory; particularly against pupils who are dyslexic. Just a >>bit >> >> >> >>concerned that that might be what you have over there, that's all. It's >> >>the >> >>old libertarian in me. >> > >> >not sure what it is in you john, but yes, it's a spelling competition. i >> >guess it discriminates against dyslexics the way auto racing >>discriminates >>against >> >the blind :o* did i say that? i do see your point of course, but you >>won't >> >find pigeon chested me complaining about losing at weightlifting :o) >> > >> >-paul (wish i could fly like superman) c.d >> >>lots of schools hold them (mine didn't), with the kids having to spell the >>words out orally. the first-place finishers may or may not go on to >>district, regional & then state competitions (usually, or maybe always, >>sponsored by newspapers), the winners of which then go to the national >>competition in washington, d.c. i saw a documentary on the '99 (or maybe it >>was 2000) bee a couple of weeks ago ... it's called spellbound, & i >>recommend it as highly as i can. sounds dry as dust, but it's anything but. >> >>dan >> >>np: intruders, love is like a baseball game > >_________________________________________________________________ >It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! >http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 19:13:19 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT Crystal Gale Spelling B Jock Wallace In a message dated 8/2/03 7:04:32 PM, edspecial@digitalrealm.net writes: http://www.wordsmith.org/anagram/index.html >DARN NEAR DUB ya know, i couldn't place it at first, but now that the anagram generator mentions it...wait, no, read and burn is not like dub. nevermind. - -p.c.d. www.mp3.com/winteracademy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 20:02:53 -0400 From: Ed Special Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT Crystal Gale Spelling B Jock Wallace On Saturday, August 2, 2003, at 07:13 PM, Eardrumbuz@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 8/2/03 7:04:32 PM, edspecial@digitalrealm.net > writes: > > http://www.wordsmith.org/anagram/index.html > >> DARN NEAR DUB > > ya know, i couldn't place it at first, but now that the anagram > generator > mentions it...wait, no, read and burn is not like dub. nevermind. > > -p.c.d. > > www.mp3.com/winteracademy Too many good anagrams for "not like dub" Have a look: http://www.wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=not+like+dub I'm off to see Rivers and Tides: Andy Goldsworthy Working With Time (Fred Frith soundtrack) http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ RiversandTidesAndyGoldsworthyWorkingWithTime-1119641/ Ed ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 20:31:13 EDT From: HowardJSpencer@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Re: belated big oboe in wire woodwind Mark B and others wrote, some way back (just reading digests after holiday) << > * Wire link - recorder used by Colin Newman on his contribution to the > 4-track ep with 154. > So is this the only wind instrument to grace a "wire" song? I know there's a credit for someone playing the flute on one of pink flag's tracks, but I'll be jiggered if I can hear it. >> Cor anglais played by one Joan Whiting on 154 (A mutual friend). Probably my second favourite non-wire played wire moment next to Mike Thorne's outdoor mine arpeggiating. While looking this up I noticed that Tim Souster is credited with playing the electric viola. Not sure which track - I should have known better?. Souster is a name I remember - he was a sort of pioneer 70s electronic music type but I think he may have leant more towards Wakeman than Eno. Wonder what brought him into Wire/ Mike Thorne's orbit? Apologies if this thread has moved beyond this. Howard ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 09:41:06 +0800 From: "Tim ****" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT Crystal Gale Spelling B Jock Wallace I'm off to see Rivers and Tides: Andy Goldsworthy Working With Time (Fred Frith soundtrack) http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ RiversandTidesAndyGoldsworthyWorkingWithTime-1119641/ Ed Beautiful Tim np sh 4wheel drive (sh weekend!) - ----Original Message Follows---- From: Ed Special To: Eardrumbuz@aol.com CC: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT Crystal Gale Spelling B Jock Wallace Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 20:02:53 -0400 On Saturday, August 2, 2003, at 07:13 PM, Eardrumbuz@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 8/2/03 7:04:32 PM, edspecial@digitalrealm.net writes: > >http://www.wordsmith.org/anagram/index.html > >>DARN NEAR DUB > >ya know, i couldn't place it at first, but now that the anagram generator >mentions it...wait, no, read and burn is not like dub. nevermind. > >-p.c.d. > >www.mp3.com/winteracademy Too many good anagrams for "not like dub" Have a look: http://www.wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=not+like+dub I'm off to see Rivers and Tides: Andy Goldsworthy Working With Time (Fred Frith soundtrack) http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ RiversandTidesAndyGoldsworthyWorkingWithTime-1119641/ Ed _________________________________________________________________ Hot chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilemania/default.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 21:41:59 -0500 (CDT) From: voyteck@webtv.net Subject: [idealcopy] WIR anagram Did anyone solve the first last number - the last last number anagram mentioned ~1 1/2 years ago? I did not save the link, but from memory it was to decipher the 6 lines from the back album cover. The anagrams were: 1. accredited frivolity having joked taker (8,2,9,2,3,3,8) 2. adaptively coronaries foresees program (9,4,1,4,4,8,5) 3. alienation psychosis fondles puppets (8,2,6,7,2,8) 4. antithesis overthrown bushfire dehydrate (2,3,5,3,3,5,3,6,8) 5. abatements hypothetic lodger refill (9,2,3,6,4,8) 6. bothersome restorer orchid thrift (5,4,4,5,5,7) ???? ... Is Sherlock Holmes out there? voyteck ~sndtrk of rainstorm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 23:21:22 -0400 From: Ed Special Subject: Re: [idealcopy] WIR anagram On Saturday, August 2, 2003, at 10:41 PM, voyteck@webtv.net wrote: > Did anyone solve the first last number - the last last number > anagram > mentioned ~1 1/2 years ago? I did not save the link, but from memory it > was to decipher the 6 lines from the back album cover. The anagrams > were: > > 1. accredited frivolity having joked taker (8,2,9,2,3,3,8) > 2. adaptively coronaries foresees program (9,4,1,4,4,8,5) > 3. alienation psychosis fondles puppets (8,2,6,7,2,8) > 4. antithesis overthrown bushfire dehydrate (2,3,5,3,3,5,3,6,8) > 5. abatements hypothetic lodger refill (9,2,3,6,4,8) > 6. bothersome restorer orchid thrift (5,4,4,5,5,7) > > voyteck > ~sndtrk of rainstorm > ???? ... Is Sherlock Holmes out there? Ask OMER HELLSHOCKS. Ed ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 05:41:57 +0200 (CEST) From: Bo Krogsgaard Subject: Re: [idealcopy] WIR anagram On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 voyteck@webtv.net wrote: > 1. accredited frivolity having joked taker (8,2,9,2,3,3,8) Recorded in Reykjavik at the GOD Facility Never figured out the rest, but i can say as much as the anagrams were passed on from Andrew McKenzie to Jon Wozencroft over the phone and at least two mistakes came out of that. b ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 13:21:13 -0500 From: "Stephen Graziano" Subject: [idealcopy] test do not reply test - do not reply ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 15:09:56 -0500 From: "Stephen Graziano" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Punk box set to be released by Rhino Records That's a nice collection of tunes, if not a little obvious, and most of those tracks have been compiled and recompiled umpteen times. With a quick glance-over I'd reckon I've got 80-85 of those tracks already, so I wouldn't be in the market, and I doubt any survivor/recollected of the era would, unless they'd flogged off their entire collection and wanted a compact recapitulation. However, for the kiddies, and for shelf-space-short radio stations, it's a nice bunch 'o tunes. sg http://www.sourmashusa.com ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V6 #229 *******************************