From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V6 #218 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Thursday, July 24 2003 Volume 06 : Number 218 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] O.T Bocca in Leicester........ [Ari Britt ] [idealcopy] OT - ATP (Throbbing Gristle) March 2004 ["ian s jackson" ] [idealcopy] Fwd: [Coil] RE-TG official announcement [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] tv reruns ["dan bailey" ] Re: [idealcopy] tv reruns [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 02:47:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] O.T Bocca in Leicester........ Captive Propaganda wrote: bocca bocca will be headlining cash for chaos at sumo in leicester this coming friday. they will be supported by the barbs. cash for chaos is an eclectic mix of hip-hop, funk, soul and all sorts of sonic strangeness and aural oddities. check out: http://www.cashforchaos.co.uk/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/leicester/clubs/2003/04/cash_for_chaos_launch.shtml full gig details are: friday 25th july 2003 sumo 54 braunstone gate leicester le3 5lg enquires: 0116 255 1906 doors open at 8pm #3 b4 10:30 / #4 after info@cashforchaos.co.uk www.cashforchaos.co.uk inbreeds was released on 7th april 2003 by captive recordings, catalogue number caged03 cd. the ep contains a remix of inbreeds alongside two outstanding new tracks and a cd-rom section containing the inbreeds video. boccas debut album 'madame tinkertoys blues factory' is available. catalogue number caged01 cd. you can find out more about bocca and download mp3s at http://www.captive.co.uk/bocca captive releases captive releases and merchandise are available from the online shop http://www.captive.co.uk/shop as well as the following retail outlets:- rockaboom records, st martins square, leicester timebox records, clarendon park road. leicester ainleys records, clock tower. leicester. probe records, 9 slater street, liverpool. l1 4bw selectadisc, 19-21 market street, nottingham. left legged pineapple, loughborough. skandalous, 51 belvoir shopping centre, coalville. skandalous, 15 the borough, hinckley. captive will not give your email address to any third party and use appropriate software in order to safeguard this. to unsubscribe from the captive mailing list please reply with unsubscribe in the heading of the email. to subscribe to the captive mailing list please send email to propaganda@captive.co.uk with subject heading: subscribe. )2003 captive propaganda propaganda@captive.co.uk http://www.captive.co.uk Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 13:33:13 +0200 From: "Jan J Noorda" Subject: [idealcopy] Merge, Dying For Kredd and Siksi About half a year ago I mentioned I bought the Merge and Dying for Kredd ceedees. Now I became a copy of the Siksi ceedee. I promised to mention the track list of these ceedees. Here they are: Merge 2B 1- Instant Life: Beach 2- Funkstvrung: InMarSat 3- Pro-Seed: Mummified Madness (Don't know if this one is produced by Graham Lewsi) 4- Barry Adamson: Jazz Devil 5- Matmos: Stupid Fambaloo 6- PAN SONIC/EDWARD GRAHAM LEWIS: URANIA/UNDER MY SKIN 7- Buckfunk 3000: Fried Funk And Microchips 8- S.E.T.I.- Jovian 9- System Error: Enter To Exit 10- Naeid: Addin'Up 11- Omala: Untitled (without Graham Lewis) 12- Mouse On Mars: Dark FX (Drykorn) 13- Ronnie&Clyde: Twice Removed (Also on one of the Swim Releases) 14- Quant: Quantasm 15- HOX: NOT HOX 16- Vodershow: Tamboid Dying For Kredd (Recordings Under Construction: RUCD 2) 1- Spinform 2- Yod: Everything Is Everythang 3- Regis: Again Update 4- Psycore: I Go Solo 5- Landquist & Oesterberg: On Vacation 6- Pro-Seed: Hyperactive Sloth 7- Navigatot: New World 8- Hearin Aid: The Point 9- HE SAID OMALA: SOLID OR VANISH 10- Mighty Kohn: Smoov 11- Cockatrice: Aatons Angbaat Same track as on the HE SAID OMALA MATCHING CROSSES CD Nordic Sound Review Siksi (compiled by CM von Hausswolff) 1996 1- Hafler Trio: KREV Spiricom Transmission To The Other Side 2- Hilmar Oern Hilmarsson: Aerophilia 3- Funkus: I'm Scratching Peacesymbols In Your Tombstone 4- Panasonic: Murto 5- HE SAID OMALA: WATER TIGHT SEAL 6- Leif Elggren: Stockholm / Oslo 39, 40,41, 42 7- Mika Vainio: Twin Bleeps 8- Kozmik Niggah: emellertid 9- Funkus: Ewing 23 10- Los Chikatilos: Snail Mail Failure 11- Erik Pisani: Nagual Journey Same track as on the HE SAID OMALA CATCH SUPPOSES CD Now Holiday, cycling up to the Moyland Museum with the biggest collection in the world of Joseph Beuys. Should I make my 1000 miles this year? DUBEDUBEDUBEDUBE.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 05:55:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Fergus Kelly Subject: [idealcopy] A Readin' an' a Burnin' I am times a member of the popular jazz combo Wire ///// Ye wha' Colin ?? Jazz ?? Yeah right... I can see it now... bring on the special guest... Evan Parker ! ... a monkey caught squealing ! Fergus ps Watched London Orbital again last night, a film that rewards repeated viewing... a rich trawl... Bruce's sound design absolutely perfect... the ultimate road movie... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 13:58:31 +0100 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] A Readin' an' a Burnin' On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 05:55:16AM -0700, Fergus Kelly wrote: > I am times a member of the popular jazz combo Wire Where does this quote come from? > > ///// Ye wha' Colin ?? Jazz ?? Yeah right... I can > see it now... bring on the special guest... Evan > Parker ! ... a monkey caught squealing ! Ah, it's all clear now: "Outdoor Miner" is obviously Wire's interpretation of the jazz standard, "Round Midnight". No, really. - - Andrew - -- home - email: andrew@lexical.org.uk | http://www.lexical.org.uk/ work - email: adw27@esc.cam.ac.uk | http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ "/Peep/". 'Yes?' "More cooookiessssss..." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 09:30:24 -0400 From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] tv reruns They'd better have restored the fade at the end of Marquee Moon. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 08:58:25 -0600 From: "Paul Ye" Subject: [idealcopy] who is my vinyl link??? I finally got me a new record player. I retrieved all the Wire related that I only had on vinyl and started listening... I can't figure out if Instant Shed part 2 (Nervepath) is supposed to be play at 33 1/3 or 45. I understand that this may be intentional, as to create a different mood for some listeners. Part one (the Sub Pop issue) clearly states 33. Does anyone know for sure? Here is a list of vinyl that I will finally be putting to cd. If anyone needs these I am sure a trade would be in order. Extra tracks from Gilbert's This Way and The Shivering Man AC Marias Drop and So, and Some Thing (Time Was b-side) Stillbird, In Vivo He Said Only One I 12" and 7" Bruce Gilbert Instant Shed part 1 and 2 IBM the oval recording (tried this once but will hopefully have better quality this time) Ahead 7" version paulye _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:17:00 +0100 From: "ian s jackson" Subject: [idealcopy] OT - ATP (Throbbing Gristle) March 2004 can anyone give us the full line-up (so far...) of this one...???? i am simply too tired, and, quite frankly, cannot be arsed looking for it... yours, with thanks in advance, ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:23:16 +0100 From: "ian s jackson" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] tv reruns excellent news Dan...i have to say i prefer Marquee Moon but...i suppose there's still time... the inclusion of 'Little Johnny Jewel' means that i can now give my burn of the old LP to a friend...HOORAY!!! ian.s.j. >From: "dan bailey" >To: "ideal copy" >Subject: [idealcopy] tv reruns >Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 20:32:56 -0500 > >as noted some time ago, inexplicably enough i vastly prefer adventure to >marquee moon (just as i do, say, what's this for to killing joke), but i >suppose there's still time ... > > >TELEVISION'S MOON RISES AGAIN > >Rhino Releases Expanded, Remastered Marquee Moon And Adventure, >While Rhino Handmade Releases Live At The Old Waldorf >On September 23 > > >LOS ANGELES - One of the most influential rock bands of the last 30 >years >will finally get the recognition it deserves when Rhino Records >releases > >Television's MARQUEE MOON and ADVENTURE in expanded and remastered >form on September 23. Both titles' booklets are loaded with unseen >photos, lyrics and liner notes by experimental guitarist Alan Licht. >In addition, Rhino > >Handmade will release LIVE AT THE OLD WALDORF on the same date. > >Television's 1977 debut album, MARQUEE MOON, immediately earned >critical raves and inspired a number of musicians and bands. Tom >Verlaine's vocals and fret work, Richard Lloyd's angular guitar >playing, and Billy Ficca and Fred Smith's halting, unexpected drum >and bass work all combined to reassert a guitar-based music during a >time when soft-rock and disco ruled the airwaves. The band also >ventured very successfully into extended sonic explorations, despite >punk's call for shorter, faster songs. > >In addition to MARQUEE MOON's original eight flawless cuts (including >the searing opener, "See No Evil" and the epic title track), this >expanded version includes previously unreleased alternate takes >of "See No Evil," > >"Friction," and "Marquee Moon," a previously unreleased instrumental >track, and the never-before-on-CD, full-length version of the >single "Little Johnny Jewel," which pre-dated the album. > >Television's sophomore disc, 1978's ADVENTURE, refined the band's >sound a bit with some elegant production, but the songs and playing >are just as compelling as on MARQUEE MOON. ADVENTURE's original eight >songs are augmented here by three previously unreleased >tracks: "Adventure," an early version of "Glory," and the single mix >version of "Ain't That Nothin'," as well as an instrumental rehearsal >run-through of "Ain't That Nothin', included as a hidden bonus track. > >The Rhino Handmade title, LIVE AT THE OLD WALDORF, captures Television >on June 29, 1978 at their incendiary best, playing tunes from MARQUEE >MOON and ADVENTURE, as well as "Little Johnny Jewel" >and "Satisfaction." The concert was originally recorded for radio >broadcast, and made available only as a promotional album. Often >bootlegged in varying degrees of quality, the show receives its first >official release ever here, with >pristine remastered sound. > >Available at regular retail outlets and at www.rhino.com, MARQUEE MOON >and ADVENTURE each carry an SRP of $17.98. LIVE AT THE OLD WALDORF is >available only through RhinoHandmade.com for $19.98. Get ready to >turn on the Television! _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 14:24:12 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Fwd: [Coil] RE-TG official announcement Return-Path: Received: from rly-xa04.mx.aol.com (rly-xa04.mail.aol.com [172.20.105.73]) by air-xa02.mail.aol.com (v95.1) with ESMTP id MAILINXA23-653f1813fa1f5; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:36:51 -0400 Received: from smtp.domania.com (smtp.domania.com [207.138.240.135]) by rly-xa04.mx.aol.com (v95.1) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXA41-653f1813fa1f5; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:36:29 -0400 Received: from www.hollyfeld.org (h000393a7ed14.ne.client2.attbi.com [24.91.47.230]) by smtp.domania.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6IDoxL27426; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:50:59 -0400 Received: from h000393a7ed14.ne.client2.attbi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.hollyfeld.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6IDfJRS004944; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:41:42 -0400 Received: from ns1.cancercare.on.ca (mail.cancercare.on.ca [204.225.32.6]) by www.hollyfeld.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6IDdKRQ004887 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:39:20 -0400 Received: from gclow.stainedproductions.com ([192.168.134.26]) by ns1.cancercare.on.ca (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6IDlLs23660 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:47:23 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20030718094552.00a7a2b0@mail.velocet.net> X-Sender: stain001@mail.velocet.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:47:15 -0400 To: coil@hollyfeld.org From: Greg Clow Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean, Found to be clean Subject: [Coil] RE-TG official announcement X-BeenThere: coil@hollyfeld.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: coil@hollyfeld.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: coil-bounces@hollyfeld.org Errors-To: coil-bounces@hollyfeld.org X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information RE~TG MANY HAPPY RETURNS "A Celebration of Industrial Musics in the 21st Century" Chris Carter, Peter Christopherson, Genesis P-Orridge and Cosey Fanni Tutti will briefly regroup to present RE~TG, a weekend of music, art, film and performance culminating in an exclusive set by THROBBING GRISTLE. 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And many more Industrial attractions. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Greg Clow ::: greg@stainedproductions.com ::::::::: concert & event promotions ::: http://www.stainedproductions.com :::::: electronic music radio & reviews ::: http://www.feedbackmonitor.com ::: electronic/experimental record label ::: http://www.pieheadrecords.com ::::::::: 158 Close Ave. 2nd Floor ::: Toronto, Ontario M6K 2V5 ::: Canada _______________________________________________ Coil mailing list Coil@hollyfeld.org http://hollyfeld.org/mailman/listinfo/coil ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 03:15:02 -0500 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] tv reruns & i'll finally be able to hear the whole of little johnny jewel, which i don't believe i have. for some reason, only the first half appears on the "ny singles scene" cassette that roir issued way back when. dan >excellent news Dan...i have to say i prefer Marquee Moon but...i suppose >there's still time... > >the inclusion of 'Little Johnny Jewel' means that i can now give my burn of >the old LP to a friend...HOORAY!!! > >ian.s.j. > > >>From: "dan bailey" >>To: "ideal copy" >>Subject: [idealcopy] tv reruns >>Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 20:32:56 -0500 >> >>as noted some time ago, inexplicably enough i vastly prefer adventure to >>marquee moon (just as i do, say, what's this for to killing joke), but i >>suppose there's still time ... >> >> >>TELEVISION'S MOON RISES AGAIN >> >>Rhino Releases Expanded, Remastered Marquee Moon And Adventure, >>While Rhino Handmade Releases Live At The Old Waldorf >>On September 23 >> >> >>LOS ANGELES - One of the most influential rock bands of the last 30 >>years >>will finally get the recognition it deserves when Rhino Records >>releases >> >>Television's MARQUEE MOON and ADVENTURE in expanded and remastered >>form on September 23. Both titles' booklets are loaded with unseen >>photos, lyrics and liner notes by experimental guitarist Alan Licht. >>In addition, Rhino >> >>Handmade will release LIVE AT THE OLD WALDORF on the same date. >> >>Television's 1977 debut album, MARQUEE MOON, immediately earned >>critical raves and inspired a number of musicians and bands. Tom >>Verlaine's vocals and fret work, Richard Lloyd's angular guitar >>playing, and Billy Ficca and Fred Smith's halting, unexpected drum >>and bass work all combined to reassert a guitar-based music during a >>time when soft-rock and disco ruled the airwaves. The band also >>ventured very successfully into extended sonic explorations, despite >>punk's call for shorter, faster songs. >> >>In addition to MARQUEE MOON's original eight flawless cuts (including >>the searing opener, "See No Evil" and the epic title track), this >>expanded version includes previously unreleased alternate takes >>of "See No Evil," >> >>"Friction," and "Marquee Moon," a previously unreleased instrumental >>track, and the never-before-on-CD, full-length version of the >>single "Little Johnny Jewel," which pre-dated the album. >> >>Television's sophomore disc, 1978's ADVENTURE, refined the band's >>sound a bit with some elegant production, but the songs and playing >>are just as compelling as on MARQUEE MOON. ADVENTURE's original eight >>songs are augmented here by three previously unreleased >>tracks: "Adventure," an early version of "Glory," and the single mix >>version of "Ain't That Nothin'," as well as an instrumental rehearsal >>run-through of "Ain't That Nothin', included as a hidden bonus track. >> >>The Rhino Handmade title, LIVE AT THE OLD WALDORF, captures Television >>on June 29, 1978 at their incendiary best, playing tunes from MARQUEE >>MOON and ADVENTURE, as well as "Little Johnny Jewel" >>and "Satisfaction." The concert was originally recorded for radio >>broadcast, and made available only as a promotional album. Often >>bootlegged in varying degrees of quality, the show receives its first >>official release ever here, with >>pristine remastered sound. >> >>Available at regular retail outlets and at www.rhino.com, MARQUEE MOON >>and ADVENTURE each carry an SRP of $17.98. LIVE AT THE OLD WALDORF is >>available only through RhinoHandmade.com for $19.98. Get ready to >>turn on the Television! > >_________________________________________________________________ >Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 20:02:28 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] tv reruns In a message dated 7/23/03 9:31:42 AM, MarkBursa@aol.com writes: >They'd better have restored the fade at the end of Marquee Moon. songs can be set to fade at any point using itunes on a mac, so you could essentially recreate it if they neglected to do it again :o\ - -p.c.d. www.mp3.com/winteracademy ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V6 #218 *******************************