From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V6 #214 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Saturday, July 19 2003 Volume 06 : Number 214 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Art Fare Radio Collage [Ed Special ] [idealcopy] OT: Did Dylan Lift Lines from Dr.Saga? ["Syarzhuk Kazachenka"] [idealcopy] ot the wall [Alistair Tear ] Re: [idealcopy] OT: Did Dylan Lift Lines from Dr.Saga? [Eardrumbuz@aol.co] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 04:10:35 -0400 From: Ed Special Subject: [idealcopy] Art Fare Radio Collage On Thu Jul 17, 2003 11:13:42 PM America/New_York, Ed Special wrote: I'll be airing my annual ART FARE radio collage from 1 to 3 am, Eastern Standard U.S. I won't be burning any money, however I might set my mullet-mowhawk on fire. http://www.wcbn.org/listen.html http://www.wcbn.org/quicktime.html Ed Special My apologies to any of you who tried listening to this. I discovered our audio stream was down toward the end of the show. Thanks for giving it a try, though. Ed ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 08:42:08 +0000 From: "John Roberts" Subject: Re: Fw: [idealcopy] Ear Trumpet? I seem to recall an interview in which Bruce said that they just came up to him in a pub and pestered him to produce them. John http://www.surf.to/ambition >From: "Jan J Noorda" >Reply-To: "Jan J Noorda" >To: "IC" >Subject: Fw: [idealcopy] Ear Trumpet? >Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:02:23 +0200 > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jan J Noorda" >To: "Tim ****" >Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 4:01 PM >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Ear Trumpet? > > > > This is mentioned on the album Bring On The Dirt > > > > Stephen S.: organ piano, synth > > Neil M.: vocals, drums, organ, tapes > > Tony B.: bass, organ > > Geoff V.: bass > > BC Gilbert: guitar > > Gary G.: dolak > > > > and on the 12 inch Being A Dog Is For Life > > > > Stephen S.: organ piano, synth > > Neil M.: vocals, drums, organ, tapes > > Geoff V.: bass > > > > What could be their family > > Steven Severin? > > > > I always thought it had something to do with the Mutedrives > > > > > Does anyone know? > > > Who were & what happened to - Ear Trumpet? > > > Thanks, > > > Tim > > > > > > EAR / TRUMPET - BRING ON THE DIRT (Data Terminal System - DTS 001 - >1988) > > LP > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Hotmail is now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to > > > http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp _________________________________________________________________ Find a cheaper internet access deal - choose one to suit you. http://www.msn.co.uk/internetaccess ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 08:55:16 +0000 From: "John Roberts" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Fall-ing toward Atlanta They did Nottingham a couple of years ago remember. John http://www.surf.to/ambition >From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com >To: keith.astbury10@virgin.net, idealcopy@smoe.org, >wireadmin@mindspring.com >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Fall-ing toward Atlanta >Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 07:12:22 -0400 > > > Wire are especially guilty of this. I don't expect them to play the >local > > British Legion, but Liverpool (particularly as it's now a > > 'city of > > culture'!!!), Manchester or even Birmingham would be nice. > > > > Keith > >/////////i'm pretty sure 80's wire played mcr a couple of times. but 21st >century wire (now that's a good name) has been a pretty home >counties-centric proposition. and as for brum , which is gig-going country >for me , i don't think wire have played here since punk rock barbarellas >days. they did support the tubes at the odeon as well IIRC , but this was >long before my arrival in 82. p > >ps can i use the name "cloneheads" for my next project :-) > >pps alt-country ; the last refuge of the scoundrel. discuss... _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 05:57:37 -0400 From: "Eric Klaver" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] definitely O.T There's got to be some advantage to not being master of your domain. Eric in Toronto - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Ari Britt Sent: July 17, 2003 6:50 PM To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: [idealcopy] definitely O.T http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3072021.stm SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 08:08:51 -0400 From: "Syarzhuk Kazachenka" Subject: [idealcopy] OT: Did Dylan Lift Lines from Dr.Saga? http://online.wsj.com/article_email/0,,SB10576176194220600,00.html _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:40:24 +0100 From: Alistair Tear Subject: [idealcopy] ot the wall there a good pic of the graffiti on the bridge at shoreditch http://www.banksy.co.uk/1stencil.html familiar to those of us who saw 'the pink flags' play around the corner from here later A ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Transport for London Street Management hereby excludes any warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of this e-mail and any attached transmitted files. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify postmaster@Streetmanagement.org.uk. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:18:48 +0100 From: Alistair Tear Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Wire in Belgium Aug 30 Hi Ian It wasn't really the cost of getting there but the ticket prices... I gather it's a bit like a Glastonbury thang so you gotta buy the whole deal later A > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian B [mailto:ian@ibarrett.fsnet.co.uk] > Sent: 17 July 2003 21:03 > To: Wire (E-mail) > Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire in Belgium Aug 30 > > > Me and the'mrs' got returns from Stansted to Ostend-Bruge for > #23 the other > weekend with RyanAir, so it mightn't be too bad (depending on > the internal > rail fare in Belgium). It pissed it down by the way. And > there was a 24 > hour train strike. > However, I want to see a variation in live set before I > travel distance > again. > Also, notice that R+B 2 is available again via PE... > Ian B > > > > It's going to be far too expensive > > to go to that one - but I guess there's > > a chance of a warm-up gig in the next few weeks > > > > here's hoping... > > > > > > > ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Transport for London Street Management hereby excludes any warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of this e-mail and any attached transmitted files. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify postmaster@Streetmanagement.org.uk. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:28:18 +0100 From: Alistair Tear Subject: RE: [idealcopy] arranging already entirely reckless disk library & bringing together great album titles with the current alt.country thread wot about Sally Timms' - 'Cowboy Sally's twilight laments for lost buckaroos'? A > > > In a message dated 7/17/03 7:50:40 AM, > alistairtear@streetmanagement.org.uk > writes: > > >& I want 'Cinder/fumes plate' :-] > > i'd go for that as an album title :o) > > or how about this: > > uncle in the hat and with the guitar - reckless jazz meat > > -another > > www.mp3.com/winteracademy > ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Transport for London Street Management hereby excludes any warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of this e-mail and any attached transmitted files. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. 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RL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:05:01 +0100 From: Alistair Tear Subject: FW: [idealcopy] ot the wall pt the second http://www.banksy.co.uk/12stencil.html there a good pic of the graffiti on the bridge at shoreditch http://www.banksy.co.uk/1stencil.html familiar to those of us who saw 'the pink flags' play around the corner from here later A ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Transport for London Street Management hereby excludes any warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of this e-mail and any attached transmitted files. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. 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This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:05:36 -0500 From: "Stephen Graziano" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Fall-ing toward Atlanta Yes, I've got the Pine Valley Cosmonauts albums also. Quite fond of the Green Green Grass of Home by Kelly Hogan and Sally Timms doing Long Black Veil. sg http://www.sourmashusa.com - ----- Original Message ----- From: "dan bailey" To: "ideal copy" Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 7:42 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Fall-ing toward Atlanta > >>I would also vote for Scenic, Alejandro Escovado, Rank and File, the > >>Corvairs, Blood on the Saddle, Waco Brothers > > as it happens, even as i type i'm listening to the new pine valley > cosmonauts (sort of the waco brothers with various guest vocalists) > anti-death-benefit 2cd, the executioner's last songs. interesting reading of > 999's homicide by skid marks with sally timms on the chorus ... the previous > volume included a similarly off-kilter rendition of gary gilmore's eyes. > > dan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:26:45 -0400 From: Tisbili@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] YEEE HAAAWWW! threeduggaduggas@yahoo.com writes: > All the above would be contry and WESTERN wooden tit Billie > Joe? Arijoe {interior of a bar. Dan Ackroyd and the bar manager are standing in front of a stage surrounded by chicken wire.} DA: So....what kind of music do you play here? BM: Oh, we have both kinds: Country AND Western! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:27:54 -0400 From: Tisbili@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Hate country? Blame the Greeks & the Brits. Many country songs have their roots in English ballads of the 18th and 19th century. Some of these ballads are old English folk songs and some were written as pop songs of their day. The pop songs were written hack song-writers who used to knock out songs to take advantage of the latest fads or news stories and sell the sheet music on the streets of London and other major cities. Hence the large number of murder ballads in country music; many of them are based on real cases. There is a very good book on country music called "Country" by Nick Tosches. The first chapter traces the history of one particular song that was recorded as a rockabilly number by Warren Smith in the late 50's. The song's history can be traced back through versions sung by country artists during the 20's and 30's, to English folk ballads of the 18th century, French and British medieval folk sagas and all the way to the Greek myth of Orpheus. from http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?CowboyMusic ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:49:01 -0400 From: Ed Special Subject: [idealcopy] Congressman & RIAA $ / prison terms for KaZaA users http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/31812.html http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/31800.html Ed ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:01:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Britt Subject: Fwd: [idealcopy] OT: Did Dylan Lift Lines from Dr.Saga? No doubt in my mind,he did,but it has helped the dear doctor,who is rather happy about it,as sales of his book have skyrocketed since the story made headlines last week.Aribob Syarzhuk Kazachenka wrote:From: "Syarzhuk Kazachenka" To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: [idealcopy] OT: Did Dylan Lift Lines from Dr.Saga? Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 08:08:51 -0400 http://online.wsj.com/article_email/0,,SB10576176194220600,00.html _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:28:18 -0500 From: "Steve Loubert" Subject: [idealcopy] Wire on New Comp Punknews.org is reporting that Wire will lend a track to the new Buddyhead compilation on Nettwerk Records. Track 15 is listed as Wire - Spent (Louder, Faster Mix). Check out the details at: http://www.punknews.org/article.php?sid=6595&mode=thread&order=0 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:43:16 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Did Dylan Lift Lines from Dr.Saga? i think the doctor's reaction should be held in the same light as anyone's comments criticizing dylan for this. it's more an example of inspiration and appropriation than what's continually accepted from rap "artists" who sooner choose to talk loud and fast over an aerosmith song...and even include the hook from the original cuz there "interpretation" has nothing going for it! -p.c.d. In a message dated 7/18/03 5:02:29 PM, threeduggaduggas@yahoo.com writes: >No doubt in my mind,he did,but it has helped the dear doctor,who is rather >happy about it,as sales of his book have skyrocketed since the story made >headlines last week.Aribob > >Syarzhuk Kazachenka wrote:From: "Syarzhuk Kazachenka" > >To: idealcopy@smoe.org >Subject: [idealcopy] OT: Did Dylan Lift Lines from Dr.Saga? >Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 08:08:51 -0400 > >http://online.wsj.com/article_email/0,,SB10576176194220600,00.html www.mp3.com/winteracademy ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V6 #214 *******************************