From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V6 #213 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Friday, July 18 2003 Volume 06 : Number 213 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] arranging already entirely reckless disk library ["Keith ] RE: [idealcopy] arranging already entirely reckless disk library [Alistai] Re: [idealcopy] furious pig ["Tim ****" ] Re: [idealcopy] furious pig ["Tim ****" ] Re: [idealcopy] furious pig ["Keith Astbury" ] [idealcopy] WINDing me up [Fergus Kelly ] Re: [idealcopy] furious pig ["Tim ****" ] [idealcopy] Ear Trumpet? ["Tim ****" ] [idealcopy] Wire in Belgium Aug 30 [Fergus Kelly ] Re : Re: [idealcopy] furious pig [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re : Re: [idealcopy] Wind INstruments [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Windstruments [Bart van Damme ] Re: [idealcopy] Furious Policeman [RLynn9@aol.com] Re : Re: [idealcopy] Why You Never Became A Dancer [MarkBursa@aol.com] FW: [idealcopy] Windstruments [Bart van Damme ] Re : Re: [idealcopy] country or anti...??? [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Wire in Belgium Aug 30 ["Ian B" ] RE: Re : Re: [idealcopy] country or anti...??? [Ari Britt ] Re: [idealcopy] furious pig ["ian s jackson" ] Re: [idealcopy] Fall-ing toward Atlanta ["dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] arranging already entirely reckless disk library > This, and the recent fall gig comment threads, brings to mind some passages > from a concert review on the fsol list. The concert was in Russia; and the > review russian; run thru the babelfish translation engine, the following turns of > phrase were generated: > > 5 July 2003, St.-Petersburg, theater on Fontanke. Privyknuv to the fact that > not one concert begins during, we by disordered crowd go on foot through > entire Fontanku, being late as the minimum for the hour. Crikey. Even allowing for langauage barriers that is bizarre. But if Paul R is gonna claim my misheard Cloneheads as a future project name, I'm gonna get in there first with Recently Rested George of Harrison! K. NP The Abyssinians - satta massangana ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:46:15 +0100 From: Alistair Tear Subject: RE: [idealcopy] arranging already entirely reckless disk library & I want 'Cinder/fumes plate' :-] A > > > Crikey. Even allowing for langauage barriers that is bizarre. > > But if Paul R is gonna claim my misheard Cloneheads as a > future project > name, I'm gonna get in there first with Recently > Rested George of Harrison! > > K. > > NP The Abyssinians - satta massangana > ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Transport for London Street Management hereby excludes any warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of this e-mail and any attached transmitted files. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify postmaster@Streetmanagement.org.uk. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 20:04:37 +0800 From: "Tim ****" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] furious pig Thanks Jan. Tim Trade cdr? - ----Original Message Follows---- From: "ian s jackson" To: Ad_Roon@hotmail.com, idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] furious pig Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:39:33 +0100 Thank You Jan...!!! wow, what a track-list...and you saved me a LOT of digging around...!!! :0) ian.s.j. >From: "Jan J Noorda" >Reply-To: "Jan J Noorda" >To: "IC" >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] furious pig >Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 10:41:37 +0200 > >I also have that Rough Trade/COPY 001 > >tracks: >side one >Scritti Politti - The Sweetest Girl >Beat - Twist and Crawl Dub >Pere Ubu - Misery Goats >Wah! Heat - 7000 Names of Wah! >Orange Juice - Blue Boy >Cabaret Voltaire - Raising The Count >D.A.F. - Kebab Traume Live >Furious Pig - Bare Pork >Panther Burns - Bourgeois Blues >Buzzcocks - I Look Alone >Essential Logic - Fanfare In The Garden >Robert Wyatt - Born Again Cretin > >side two >Raincoats - Shoutin Out Loud >Josef K - Endless Soul >Blue Orchids - Low Profile >Virgin Prunes - Red Nettle >Aztec Camera - We Could Send Letters >Red Crayola - Milkmaid >Television Personalities - Magnificent Dreams >The Massed Carnaby St. John Cooper Clarkes - The Day My Pad Went Mad >James Blood Ulmer - Jazz Is The Teacher, Funk Is The Preacher >Ian Dury - Closer To Home >Gist - Greener Grass >Subway Sect - Parallel Lines > >ps also mentioned on the sleeve of the cassette >This is the first release of ROUGHTAPES, the new Rough Trade tape cassette >catalogue). Future Rough Tapes releases will include Voice of America by >Cabaret Voltaire, Colossal Youth by the Young Marble Giants, The Art of >Walking by Pere Ubu, new studio LPs by The Raincoats, Scritti Politti, Red >Crayola and Wire cassette only collection of unreleased material. > >Does someone know what could happened with that Wire cassette collection of >unreleased material. Is that the period they just broke up for a while? > > > > > > http://www.appelstein.com/ymg/C81.html > > Tracks?? > > V Prunes - Red Nettle > > Cabs - Loosen The Clamp? > > Other Tracks..?? > > Linx!!?? > > > > Tim > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > From: "ian s jackson" > > To: dpbailey@worldnet.att.net > > CC: idealcopy@smoe.org > > Subject: Re: [idealcopy] furious pig > > Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 08:39:41 +0100 > > > > i still have the C81 NME cassettee somewhere...and the C86 one come to > > that...but it's hidden away...and i'm in the process of moving...so dan >will > > probably come up with the track listing because i'm bound to forget >about > > this one... > > > > ian.s.j. (remind me if not...) > > > > > > >From: "dan bailey" > > >To: "ideal copy" > > >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] furious pig > > >Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:41:52 -0500 > > > > > >speaking of c81, i'm going to have to go poking around the internet to >see > > >if i can come up with a track-listing. it's of course pretty legendary >in > > >buzzcocks (who it looks like i'll be able to go see in atlanta tomorrow > > >night after all) circles for having included the >long-otherwise-unavailable > > >i look alone (recently reissued as part of the 10-or-however-many >singles > > >set) ... > > > > > >dan > > > > > > >see text below from artist direct ; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >HREF="http://www.artistdirect.com/music/artist/card/0,,993945,00.html?artis >t > > >=Furious+Pig">FURIOUS PIG: Biography > > > > Related Genres: > >HREF="http://www.artistdirect.com/music/genre/sub/0,,533,00.html">Post > > >Punk > > > > > > > > From South Devon, England, Furious Pig -- Cass Davies, Martin > > >Kent, > > > >Stephen Kent, and Dominic Weeks -- were a mostly a cappella foursome >that > > > >existed during the post-punk era. The group started out with >traditional > > >rock > > > >instrumentation but opted to strip things down to be more >interesting. >In > > > >performances (which included shows with the Slits, the Fall, and Pere > > >Ubu), > > >the group > > > >tended to accompany its intense and intricately orchestrated vocals >with > > >found > > > >objects as percussion. They made their debut with the song "Bare >Pork" >on > > >the > > > >legendary C81, a cassette compilation released by NME (in conjunction > > >with > > > >Rough Trade) in early 1981. The only single-artist release from the >group > > >was the > > > >I Don't Like Your Face 12" single, which was released by Rough Trade > > >about > > >a > > > >month after C81. (Production on one of the songs came from Wire's >Bruce > > > >Gilbert.) After splitting up, each of the members continued in music, > > >with > > >their > > > >paths occasionally crossing. ~ Andy Kellman, All Music Guide > > > > > > > > > > > >never realised bruce was involved despite owning that 12". not in any > > > >discographies either. anyone know if this is correct? p > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends > > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Hotmail is now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to > > http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 20:12:39 +0800 From: "Tim ****" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] furious pig Wasn't one of Lynx/Linx involved with 23 skidoo (Urban Gamelan) on Horns? Tim In Camera - Apocalypse - ----Original Message Follows---- From: "ian s jackson" To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] furious pig Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:42:29 +0100 > > http://www.appelstein.com/ymg/C81.html > > Tracks?? > > V Prunes - Red Nettle > > Cabs - Loosen The Clamp? > > Other Tracks..?? > > Linx!!?? > > > > Tim Tim, Linx (or was it Lynx,...??) were on the other NME tape 'Dancing Master' , which IMHO, was also facking great (in the main...) ;0) ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________ Sign-up for a FREE BT Broadband connection today! http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:20:52 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] furious pig yep. Sketch i seem to recall his name. Think he was still involved in their 2000 reincarnation... - ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim **** To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] furious pig > Wasn't one of Lynx/Linx involved with 23 skidoo (Urban Gamelan) on Horns? > > Tim > > In Camera - Apocalypse > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "ian s jackson" > To: idealcopy@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [idealcopy] furious pig > Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:42:29 +0100 > > > > http://www.appelstein.com/ymg/C81.html > > > Tracks?? > > > V Prunes - Red Nettle > > > Cabs - Loosen The Clamp? > > > Other Tracks..?? > > > Linx!!?? > > > > > > Tim > > Tim, Linx (or was it Lynx,...??) were on the other NME tape 'Dancing Master' > , which IMHO, was also facking great (in the main...) ;0) > > ian.s.j. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for a FREE BT Broadband connection today! > http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail is now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to > http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 05:30:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Fergus Kelly Subject: [idealcopy] WINDing me up >Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:27:27 +0100 >From: Ian_Brann@veritasdgc.com >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wind INstruments >> So is this the only wind instrument to grace a "wire" song? >Isn't there some sax wailing on Crazy About Love ? >Is a flute classified as a wind instrument? ///// Ye wha' ???... course it is !!! What else could it be ??? Fergus np - fuckin' nothin'... 'cept the rain on ma windowpane... :( __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 20:41:08 +0800 From: "Tim ****" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] furious pig That's the guy. Tim In Camera - Deflowered (Yes it's the cd '13') - ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Keith Astbury" To: "Tim ****" , CC: Subject: Re: [idealcopy] furious pig Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:20:52 +0100 yep. Sketch i seem to recall his name. Think he was still involved in their 2000 reincarnation... - ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim **** To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] furious pig > Wasn't one of Lynx/Linx involved with 23 skidoo (Urban Gamelan) on Horns? > > Tim > > In Camera - Apocalypse > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "ian s jackson" > To: idealcopy@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [idealcopy] furious pig > Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:42:29 +0100 > > > > http://www.appelstein.com/ymg/C81.html > > > Tracks?? > > > V Prunes - Red Nettle > > > Cabs - Loosen The Clamp? > > > Other Tracks..?? > > > Linx!!?? > > > > > > Tim > > Tim, Linx (or was it Lynx,...??) were on the other NME tape 'Dancing Master' > , which IMHO, was also facking great (in the main...) ;0) > > ian.s.j. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for a FREE BT Broadband connection today! > http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail is now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to > http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 20:44:14 +0800 From: "Tim ****" Subject: [idealcopy] Ear Trumpet? Does anyone know? Who were & what happened to - Ear Trumpet? Thanks, Tim EAR / TRUMPET - BRING ON THE DIRT (Data Terminal System - DTS 001 - 1988) LP _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 05:47:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Fergus Kelly Subject: [idealcopy] Wire in Belgium Aug 30 Just took a butcher's at pinkflag and noticed Wire are playing The Pukklepopp Festival in Belgium, on Aug 30, sharing a bill with Limp Bizkit (???), PJ Harvey, Kelly fat spoilt cunt Osborne, and Gang Of Four rip off merchants Radio 4, amongst many, many others... Fergus __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:39:06 GMT From: P J Kane Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Fall-ing toward Atlanta << Yep...The Mogwai show that I attended was the one with Bardo Pond opening. >> yup, that was pretty good. << The Yo La Tengo show that I attended was the most recent one with The Glands opening. >> i missed that one. << I missed Bob Mould's show for The Last Dog And Pony Show, but I did catch the most recent Variety Playhouse show with him playing the electronic stuff. I also saw Bob Mould at The Earl this past October. It was a rainy night in the middle of the week and there were only a hundred people or so at the concert. Most of Bob Mould's songs that night were acoustic and the few of us there pretty much just stood near him like a campfire at summer camp or something...lol. >> i was at that EARL show too. i foudn it funny that Bob blew a speaker with an acousting guitar. only Bob Mould could play that loud.... << It was a superb intimate concert experience. >> Bob's acoustic shows are like that... << I bought This Nation's Saving Grace on CD. It's the Beggars Banquet CD, but it's priced low. It's quite an excellent album. After listening to it, I can understand why people think thought that the current band lineup sounded "too professional"; the music on TNSG seems gloriously disorganized and disoriented. >> i want to find a copy of that one. but you know -- you never find Fall CD's in used bins. why is that? PJK please don't hate me because i can't type..... - --- All the cool kids are doing it: HTTP://www.EvilSponge.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:51:26 +0100 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire in Belgium Aug 30 On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 05:47:04AM -0700, Fergus Kelly wrote: > Just took a butcher's at pinkflag and noticed Wire are > playing The Pukklepopp Festival in Belgium, on Aug 30, > sharing a bill with Limp Bizkit (???), PJ Harvey, > Kelly fat spoilt cunt Osborne, and Gang Of Four rip > off merchants Radio 4, amongst many, many others... I bought "Gotham!" on the strength of 'Dance to the Underground'. Most disappointed, I was... - - Andrew - -- home - email: andrew@lexical.org.uk | http://www.lexical.org.uk/ work - email: adw27@esc.cam.ac.uk | http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ "/Peep/". 'Yes?' "More cooookiessssss..." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:48:59 +0100 From: Alistair Tear Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Wire in Belgium Aug 30 It's going to be far too expensive to go to that one - but I guess there's a chance of a warm-up gig in the next few weeks here's hoping... A > > > > Just took a butcher's at pinkflag and noticed Wire are > playing The Pukklepopp Festival in Belgium, on Aug 30, > sharing a bill with Limp Bizkit (???), PJ Harvey, > Kelly fat spoilt cunt Osborne, and Gang Of Four rip > off merchants Radio 4, amongst many, many others... > > Fergus > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > http://search.yahoo.com > ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:02:23 +0200 From: "Jan J Noorda" Subject: Fw: [idealcopy] Ear Trumpet? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan J Noorda" To: "Tim ****" Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Ear Trumpet? > This is mentioned on the album Bring On The Dirt > > Stephen S.: organ piano, synth > Neil M.: vocals, drums, organ, tapes > Tony B.: bass, organ > Geoff V.: bass > BC Gilbert: guitar > Gary G.: dolak > > and on the 12 inch Being A Dog Is For Life > > Stephen S.: organ piano, synth > Neil M.: vocals, drums, organ, tapes > Geoff V.: bass > > What could be their family > Steven Severin? > > I always thought it had something to do with the Mutedrives > > > Does anyone know? > > Who were & what happened to - Ear Trumpet? > > Thanks, > > Tim > > > > EAR / TRUMPET - BRING ON THE DIRT (Data Terminal System - DTS 001 - 1988) > LP > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Hotmail is now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to > > http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:22:40 -0400 From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re : Re: [idealcopy] furious pig Sketch is still a member of 23 Skidoo/Ronin. he's a bassist, not a horn player. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:26:39 -0400 From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re : Re: [idealcopy] Wind INstruments >>Isn't there some sax wailing on Crazy About Love ?<< Played by Mr Lewis, no less. There's an interview (one of Graeme R's I think) in which EGL speaks with pride about his month-long career as a saxophonist! Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:46:04 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Windstruments > Played by Mr Lewis, no less. There's an interview (one of Graeme R's I think) > in which EGL speaks with pride about his month-long career as a saxophonist! > > Mark Graham on a broken sax... would have gone great with his (later) mullet. Anyone still have that fab url? Bart The interview btw was by Uzine's Patrick Vandenberghe and can be found on Wireviews: http://www.wireviews.com/articles/interviews/graham_lewis_uzine_00.html excerpt: U: People will probably assume that "Lewis plays the bass", judging from the part you took in Wire. But obviously, you play electronical instruments as well, and have probably experimented with all kinds of musical tools. Are there any instruments you'd wish you'd master? Which are the instruments you love to work on the most, e.g. for songwriting? GL: To have mastered one would be an achievement... however, virtuosity on a musical instrument has never been the springboard for my own creativity. Often, skills must be aquired to execute an idea but mastery is not the end in itself. For instance, I loved my short career on the saxophone around the time of Crazy About Love. In a period of 3 weeks, from picking up Robert's rather broken horn to lowering it, I played 4 concerts and the John Peel Session at which Crazy... was recorded. For writting I often use loops produced from a variety of sources, including sampler, drum machine and at present Mac with Logic. Other compositional aids are walking, bicycles, driving, train journeys and swimming. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:47:26 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Furious Policeman In a message dated 7/16/03 6:07:35 PM Central Daylight Time, lockupyourhats@yahoo.com writes: > Just finished 'England's Hidden Reverse' by David > Keenan, a must read for all you Current 93, Coil and > Nurse With Wound fans out there... a very well > researched and fascinating read... got your copy yet > Robert ? > oh yeah...i'm half way through it already... RL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:07:38 -0400 From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re : Re: [idealcopy] Why You Never Became A Dancer >>weren't they associated with (or a part of, or another name for, or whatever ...) the coum transmissions (or whatever the name was) people? somehow, i don't discern any underlying christian tendencies.<< Coum transmissions was Pre-TG TG. Whitehouse's label was called Come Transmisions, and the band was previously knows as Come (one single, quite good). Difficult to take Whitehouse seriously - just seemed to pick all the obvious TG-related fixations (dubious neo-nazi imagery, sado-masochism, serial killers etc) and amplify it, as if to pick up the TG massive. Seen 'em live, and it was a fearsome noise though. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 17:18:18 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: FW: [idealcopy] Windstruments > Graham on a broken sax... would have gone great with his (later) mullet. > Anyone still have that fab url? Here Graham appears just to have shot his mullet of! http://www.create.ucsb.edu/~stp/KREV_X/large/LewisFilipinaMaid.jpg More of that (photo)shoot: http://www.create.ucsb.edu/~stp/KREV_X The mullet's not on Patrick's site is it? Bart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:57:35 -0400 From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re : Re: [idealcopy] country or anti...??? I'm fond of alt.country, though the more alt. the better. Two good 'uns are Wide Swing Tremolo by Son Volt and Sound of Lies by the Jayhawks. But it's only a short bus ride from there to John Cougar Mellencamp's house, as buyers of Ryan Adams solo albums have doubtless discovered. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 21:02:43 +0100 From: "Ian B" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire in Belgium Aug 30 Me and the'mrs' got returns from Stansted to Ostend-Bruge for #23 the other weekend with RyanAir, so it mightn't be too bad (depending on the internal rail fare in Belgium). It pissed it down by the way. And there was a 24 hour train strike. However, I want to see a variation in live set before I travel distance again. Also, notice that R+B 2 is available again via PE... Ian B PS Fergus - will get back to you re NWW; they've had a spin but I've been pretty much submerged in a joyful sea of JCC - ----- Original Message ----- From: Alistair Tear To: 'Fergus Kelly' Cc: Wire (E-mail) Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 1:48 PM Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Wire in Belgium Aug 30 > It's going to be far too expensive > to go to that one - but I guess there's > a chance of a warm-up gig in the next few weeks > > here's hoping... > > A > > > > > > > > > Just took a butcher's at pinkflag and noticed Wire are > > playing The Pukklepopp Festival in Belgium, on Aug 30, > > sharing a bill with Limp Bizkit (???), PJ Harvey, > > Kelly fat spoilt cunt Osborne, and Gang Of Four rip > > off merchants Radio 4, amongst many, many others... > > > > Fergus > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > http://search.yahoo.com > > > ************************************************************************* > The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are > addressed. Transport for London Street Management hereby excludes any > warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of > this e-mail and any attached transmitted files. If you are not the intended > recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that > any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is > strictly prohibited. > > If you have received this e-mail in error please notify > postmaster@Streetmanagement.org.uk. > > This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the > presence of computer viruses. > ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 21:09:44 +0100 From: "Ian B" Subject: Re: Re: [idealcopy] country or anti...??? I'm no afficionado, but I *highly* rate What Another Man Spills by Lambchop. Peddle Steel naysayers mightn't be swayed by Life #2, The Saturday Option or N.O. but it's the best use I've heard made of one. Ian B PS The Salesman and Bernadette by Vic Chesnutt is pretty good too (best 'I wrecked my life with alcohol' song I've ever heard in 'Square Room') - does that count? - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Bart van Damme ; wire-news Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 4:57 PM Subject: Re : Re: [idealcopy] country or anti...??? > I'm fond of alt.country, though the more alt. the better. > > Two good 'uns are Wide Swing Tremolo by Son Volt and Sound of Lies by the Jayhawks. But it's only a short bus ride from there to John Cougar Mellencamp's house, as buyers of Ryan Adams solo albums have doubtless discovered. > > Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 21:45:56 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: Re : Re: [idealcopy] country or anti...??? Ha! Excellent stuff Mark. God Adams is dull isn't he - possibly the most bemusing critically acclaimed artist of the last five years or so. And Bart - that picture of Graham shooting his mullet is priceless. Two consecutive postings I've LOL'd at! Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of MarkBursa@aol.com Sent: 17 July 2003 16:58 To: Bart van Damme; wire-news Subject: Re : Re: [idealcopy] country or anti...??? I'm fond of alt.country, though the more alt. the better. Two good 'uns are Wide Swing Tremolo by Son Volt and Sound of Lies by the Jayhawks. But it's only a short bus ride from there to John Cougar Mellencamp's house, as buyers of Ryan Adams solo albums have doubtless discovered. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 17:11:55 -0400 From: Tisbili@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] YEEE HAAAWWW! The biggest problem country music has is the associations it generates. Past slogans like Country: music to seduce your cousin by or Country: Itbs not just for lynchings anymore or Country: Favored by alcoholics and wifebeaters all over the world or Country: Remember that banjo-playing guy from Deliverance? may have been accurate, but limit its appeal. The genre needs a makeover in the image department. BillE ____....----^^^^----....____ np: nothing- still fookin around at the office ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:46:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Britt Subject: Fwd: [idealcopy] YEEE HAAAWWW! Tisbili@aol.com wrote: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 17:11:55 -0400 From: Tisbili@aol.com To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: [idealcopy] YEEE HAAAWWW! The biggest problem country music has is the associations it generates. Past slogans like Country: music to seduce your cousin by or Country: Itbs not just for lynchings anymore or Country: Favored by alcoholics and wifebeaters all over the world or Country: Remember that banjo-playing guy from Deliverance? may have been accurate, but limit its appeal. The genre needs a makeover in the image department. BillE ____....----^^^^----....____ np: nothing- still fookin around at the office All the above would be contry and WESTERN wooden tit Billie Joe?Arijoe SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:50:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Britt Subject: RE: Re : Re: [idealcopy] country or anti...??? Keith Knight wrote: Ha! Excellent stuff Mark. God Adams is dull isn't he - possibly the most bemusing critically acclaimed artist of the last five years or so. And Bart - that picture of Graham shooting his mullet is priceless. Two consecutive postings I've LOL'd at! Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of MarkBursa@aol.com Sent: 17 July 2003 16:58 To: Bart van Damme; wire-news Subject: Re : Re: [idealcopy] country or anti...??? I'm fond of alt.country, though the more alt. the better. Two good 'uns are Wide Swing Tremolo by Son Volt and Sound of Lies by the Jayhawks. But it's only a short bus ride from there to John Cougar Mellencamp's house, as buyers of Ryan Adams solo albums have doubtless discovered. Mark Ah hurd some'o that Jayhawks stuff on NPR,how do they compare to Wilco/Sonvolt? Arialt. SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 15:49:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] definitely O.T http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3072021.stm SBC Yahoo! 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Get a FREE BT Broadband connection http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 19:42:10 -0500 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Fall-ing toward Atlanta >>I would also vote for Scenic, Alejandro Escovado, Rank and File, the >>Corvairs, Blood on the Saddle, Waco Brothers as it happens, even as i type i'm listening to the new pine valley cosmonauts (sort of the waco brothers with various guest vocalists) anti-death-benefit 2cd, the executioner's last songs. interesting reading of 999's homicide by skid marks with sally timms on the chorus ... the previous volume included a similarly off-kilter rendition of gary gilmore's eyes. dan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 21:30:33 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] arranging already entirely reckless disk library In a message dated 7/17/03 7:38:48 AM, keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: >Recently > >Rested George of Harrison! that's a great band name. go for it dude! - -p.c.d. www.mp3.com/winteracademy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 21:33:49 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Fall-ing toward Atlanta In a message dated 7/17/03 8:49:47 AM, postlibyan@netzero.com writes: > >i want to find a copy of that one. but you know -- you never find Fall >CD's in used bins. why is that? which ones do you want? i see them quite often, and almost always under $10 - -paul c.d. www.mp3.com/winteracademy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 19:50:03 -0600 From: "Paul Ye" Subject: Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wind INstruments Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wind INstruments >>So is this the only wind instrument to grace a "wire" song? >Isn't there some sax wailing on Crazy About Love ? >Is a flute classified as a wind instrument? >Kate Lukas (? spelling) on Pink Flag &154 to name but two others. >New Ian The wind family includes any reeded instruments (sax, clarinet, basoon, oboe) and the flutes. Lots of sax on Dome 34. Some good, some not so. Is that which I win, that which I love? paulye154 np George Harrison, Somewhere in England... _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 21:51:49 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] arranging already entirely reckless disk library In a message dated 7/17/03 7:50:40 AM, alistairtear@streetmanagement.org.uk writes: >& I want 'Cinder/fumes plate' :-] i'd go for that as an album title :o) or how about this: uncle in the hat and with the guitar - reckless jazz meat - -another www.mp3.com/winteracademy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 21:56:43 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire in Belgium Aug 30 In a message dated 7/17/03 8:47:46 AM, lockupyourhats@yahoo.com writes: >and Gang Of Four rip >off merchants Radio 4 are you thinking of the rapture? i would say radio 4 rip off go4 much less than most of the newer bands of that ilk. but really, what the hell is limp bizkit doing on that bill?? - -p.c.d. www.mp3.com/winteracademy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 23:13:42 -0400 From: Ed Special Subject: [idealcopy] Art Fare Radio Collage I'll be airing my annual ART FARE radio collage from 1 to 3 am, Eastern Standard U.S. I won't be burning any money, however I might set my mullet-mowhawk on fire. http://www.wcbn.org/listen.html http://www.wcbn.org/quicktime.html Ed Special ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V6 #213 *******************************