From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V6 #193 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Wednesday, July 2 2003 Volume 06 : Number 193 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Klang(er) [Ari Britt ] [idealcopy] Re: John Cale [HowardJSpencer@aol.com] RE: [idealcopy] Re: John Cale [Alistair Tear ] Re: [idealcopy] Re: John Cale [HowardJSpencer@aol.com] RE: [idealcopy] Re: John Cale [Alistair Tear Subject: [idealcopy] Klang(er) TIM:>So wrong I agree with Bill.< careful Tim,you'll be exchanging birthday cards next..........A SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 05:47:15 EDT From: HowardJSpencer@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Re: John Cale Michael F wrote re John Cale: << While his new ep (5 Tracks) is mixed for me (so far), at least it does not commit the crime of trying to recapture old glories. >> Whereas I bought this at the weekend and can't stop playing it. The disembodied/treated voices put me in mind of Manscape/First letter. But comparisons are probably odious. It's just an extraordinary piece of work, to my ears. Would definitely be beating down doors to see him this time round but for the fact that I'll be on holiday in Italy when he plays the Union chapel. Howard ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 10:53:53 +0100 From: Alistair Tear Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Re: John Cale Hi Howard this prompted me to check Union Chapel to see when he's playing (14th July) then I noticed this entry for 16th... Blurt, playing with (I assume supported by) DJ Bruce Gilbert from Wire http://www.unionchapel.org.uk/whatson/index.php/20030701.html decisions, decisions ;-} later A > > Would definitely be beating down doors to see him this time > round but for the > fact that I'll be on holiday in Italy when he plays the Union chapel. > > Howard > ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Transport for London Street Management hereby excludes any warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of this e-mail and any attached transmitted files. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify postmaster@Streetmanagement.org.uk. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 12:05:12 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: [idealcopy] [OT] Stockhausen/Czukay Tonight again on dutch telly: "PITCH: Sonic Acts" This time: Contemporary electronic music (in historical perspective) With: Stockhausen, DJ Spooky, Pierre Henry and Holger Czukay. Bart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 12:20:21 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: John Cale > this prompted me to check Union Chapel to > see when he's playing (14th July) > then I noticed this entry for 16th... > Blurt, playing with (I assume supported by) > DJ Bruce Gilbert from Wire > http://www.unionchapel.org.uk/whatson/index.php/20030701.html > decisions, decisions ;-} Both? B. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 06:20:02 EDT From: HowardJSpencer@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: John Cale In a message dated 1/7/03 10:56:53 am, alistairtear@streetmanagement.org.uk writes: << Hi Howard this prompted me to check Union Chapel to see when he's playing (14th July) then I noticed this entry for 16th... Blurt, playing with (I assume supported by) DJ Bruce Gilbert from Wire http://www.unionchapel.org.uk/whatson/index.php/20030701.html decisions, decisions ;-} later A >> Sod it, I'll still be in Italy. Too late to cancel! H ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 11:27:49 +0100 From: Alistair Tear Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Re: John Cale Picking up John Cale tickets this evening since Tim described this tour as a 'must see' Will play the Blurt gig by ear probably entry will be on the door on the night cheers A > > decisions, decisions ;-} > > Both? > > B. > ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Transport for London Street Management hereby excludes any warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of this e-mail and any attached transmitted files. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. 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Mark :-( ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 07:14:27 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Win Gil CD / Mg Flare > >>Thats a band formed by Britpop ex-rehab/ex-elastica wastrel and pointless > needle-scarred London "party animal" Donna FromElastica. > Forming a sort of krautrock/nu-Camdenspazrock band and calling it "Klang" is > as tired and unimaginative as forming a Beatles tribute band and calling it > "Abbey Road". > But its enough to get in the music papers.<< > > And so far removed from Krautrock it doesn't bear thinking about. "Plodding > indie" is more like it. Not much going on really, but at least they've had > the honour of Wire suporting them, which must have been nice for Donna. > > Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 20:29:55 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Win Gil CD / Mg Flare God, Klang were dull supporting Erase Errata a couple of weeks back - nothing about them stood out, and I'm someone who quite liked Elastica. Avoid like the plague I'd suggest. Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of MarkBursa@aol.com Sent: 01 July 2003 12:14 To: tim@kidsindestructible.com; idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Win Gil CD / Mg Flare > >>Thats a band formed by Britpop ex-rehab/ex-elastica wastrel and pointless > needle-scarred London "party animal" Donna FromElastica. > Forming a sort of krautrock/nu-Camdenspazrock band and calling it "Klang" is > as tired and unimaginative as forming a Beatles tribute band and calling it > "Abbey Road". > But its enough to get in the music papers.<< > > And so far removed from Krautrock it doesn't bear thinking about. "Plodding > indie" is more like it. Not much going on really, but at least they've had > the honour of Wire suporting them, which must have been nice for Donna. > > Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 20:35:51 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Win Gil CD / Mg Flare - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Bill Hick >VA - Sonic Mook 2 Don't bother with this toytown pseudo-new wave revivalism. Get the albums by Liars, Yeah Yeah Yeahs & 2nd Gen instead, maybe also the Electrelane album (well they're good live anyway). The rest is retro to mediocre to utter shite,except the Ikara Colt track which is by far the best thing I've heard from these funny Fall impressionists. - ------------------- Although the Sonic Mook people curated the Liars / Suicide gig I saw last year. And the Liars and Yeah Yeah Yeahs are toytown pseudo-new wave revivalism compared to the glory that is the Biting Tongues. Another the Keith (admittedly quite enjoying YYY's album compared to their live manifestation) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 20:13:04 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Win Gil CD / Mg Flare > And the Liars and Yeah Yeah Yeahs are toytown pseudo-new wave revivalism > compared to the glory that is the Biting Tongues. Bloody right too. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 09:15:43 +0100 From: Alistair Tear Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Re: John Cale So do I, young Brrt... Union Chapel being about my favorite London venue & should be perfect for John Cale Reckless Records act as a physical box office for the Union Chapel, thus saving the rip off booking fee Just ordered the e.p. from Action records and may I also recommend the new compilation from Loose music...'Loose selections' - 19 trax for #2.99 Where twang meets bang... Tim, was there a support act in Manchester? cheers A > -----Original Message----- > From: Bart van Damme [mailto:bartvandamme@home.nl] > Sent: 02 July 2003 09:10 > To: Alistair Tear > Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: John Cale > > > > Picking up John Cale tickets this evening > > since Tim described this tour as a 'must see' > > enjoy alistair! wish i could join! - bart :-) > ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Transport for London Street Management hereby excludes any warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of this e-mail and any attached transmitted files. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. 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