From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V6 #183 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Monday, June 23 2003 Volume 06 : Number 183 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Wire Setlist June 21st [Superflyww9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Wire Setlist June 21st [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Wire Setlist June 21st [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] [idealcopy] Re: burn, please read ["Jason Rogers" ] [idealcopy] San Francisco here we come... ["Paul Ye" WIRE setlist > > Spaceland June 21st, 2003 > > 1. 99.9 > 2. Germ Ship > 3. Mr. Marx's Table > 4. 1st Fast > 5. Read and Burn > 6. The Agfers of Kodack > 7. Comet > 8. In The Art of Stopping > 9. Spent > 10. I Don't Understand > > ________ > > 11. Strange > 12. 106 Beats That > 13. Surgeon's Girl > > ________ > > 14. Pink Flag > did you have a good time??? Robert (who doubts he will get to see Wire in this lifetime) Lynn np- Portishead "Only You" video from the Live in NYC/videos/short films compilation DVD ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 10:08:52 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire Setlist June 21st i may get blasted for this, but... should i really go to the expense, ticket/travel/excusing myself from my brother-in-law's 40th birthday dinner, to see this show? or should i wait til things change a bit more, hopefully the next tour? as much as i'd love to see them play strange, i just don't know if i will do it. let me put it this way, and maybe i'll get a better response: why should i go to this show? convince me not to use the $25 in my pocket for cds this week :o) - -paul c.d. www.mp3.com/winteracademy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 15:00:57 +0000 From: "Jason Rogers" Subject: [idealcopy] Re: burn, please read >Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 18:40:12 EDT >From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com >Subject: [idealcopy] burn, please read > >since my mind usually goes blank upon entering the record store (i get a >bit >overwhelmed sometimes), i would greatly appreciate suggestions for my next >purchase. i've got $25 burning a hole in my pocket, and i'll probably get >out to >the stores in the next few days. I purchased the new Mogwai album, Happy Songs For Happy People, this week and would give it my highest recommendation of recent. This Mogwai album is only 42 minutes long, but there are some superb "post-rock" instrumentals within, especially "Kids Will Be Skeletons". Of all of the previous releases, Mogwai's Happy Songs For Happy People probably reminds me most of Mogwai's EP (1999), except these new tracks are not quite as foreboding and they are more about maintaining a state of bliss throughout. It's great stuff if you like bands like Godspeed You! Black Emperor or Tortoise. Jason Now Playing: Mogwai - "Hunted By A Freak" _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 18:29:24 +0100 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] Art Never Heard Stopping (Take a Break) "If you were going to introduce people who've NEVER HEARD Wire to a song off Send, which song would you choose?" Any of them EXCEPT Being Watched Comet Agfers of Kodack (which I always skip now when I play the CD simply because 2 of them are totally played out after so many spins and Being Watched is pretty weak compared to the rest of the album) Being Watched is too much like a generic throwback to eighties WIRE, and Agfers and Comet are too heavy metal really, ghosts of Hawkwind & Motorhead sounding odd so late in the day. Catchiest tunes are Nice Streets and Art of Stopping, but Spent & 99.9 seem to turn more heads. Despite having been played more than Agfers & Comet AoS hasn't lost its punch. This was also the one they made a video for, so in that sense maybe fuddyduddys who need 'a single' to tell them what to like can imagine that AoS was it. Nice Streets and Ten Years After (live at ATP) functioned like a single before R&B02 since I recorded them off the radio and played them over and over whilst waiting. Raft Ants always seemed like a trite throwaway number. You Can't Leave Now did a similar thing for Send, being on that Dutch netcast. A shame all the tracks they played before it were so mediocre. Also try seguing Nice Streets Above / Every City to hear the Drill link. I'd rejig the album by dropping Comet and Agfers in favour of Germ Ship and Trash Treasure (a new version with chorus erased or spoken by Gilbert or crooned by Lewis). The lyrics of Being Watched are some of the corniest WIRE have ever written. They could've put any words to that tune. Maybe 'Take a Break from the Human Race' would fit quite well. Also Colin's affected disgust vox just sound smug and a bit crap. The lyrics of You Can't Leave Now fit the pitch of the tune perfectly and are quite funny. That and Half Eaten were classics like Spent (live) and Nice Streets, but 99.9 is the best track WIRE have ever done. I think the Send Redux is a fuckin' joke, but perhaps its supposed to be. Its quite a cute idea, but not one track benefits from the daft edits. The fade out of You Can't Leave Now completely spoils it. I'd rather hear massively extended versions of 99.9 and Nice Streets Above. And it begs the question why not include ALL the tracks on the CD, since usually about 80 minutes of noise fits on a CD. The Send Redux cover is just a crap rehash of the cover of The First Letter vinyl which was pretty crap too. Maybe its a slightly disengenuous example of that non-evolving cyclic culture? Zoom and Art of Persistence are not 'rarities' - they're tracks that may well appear on forthcoming WIRE releases. Nice Streets and 99.9 are the tracks I'd guess they'd be leaning towards / beyond stylistically with R&B03 in the Autumn. Cracked Machine Highly Irregular Cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine NP Aurelie - Desde Que Naci (quite nice but not as great as the massive Akatombo) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 22:29:44 +0200 From: "giluz" Subject: [idealcopy] Re: idealcopy-digest V6 #182 > i would greatly appreciate suggestions for my next > purchase. i've got $25 burning a hole in my pocket, and i'll probably get out to > the stores in the next few days. > > -paul (you pick my next) c.d. VA - Faust- Friespiel (Ravivando remixes) Heiner Goebbels - Eislermaterial Asa Chang & Junray - both album &/or LP Secret Chiefs 3 - Book M Liars - this album has such a long title that it's impossible to remember Faust - Patchwork VA - Sonic Mook 2 - -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 15:02:35 -0600 From: "Paul Ye" Subject: [idealcopy] San Francisco here we come... For Robert Cambra, Norm, Rick, and whoever else is gonna be at the GAMH show we are leaving tonite and are excited to see everyone at the Edinburgh castle at 6pm. If there is any changes to our meeting place or time call me on my mobile (8012325112). This will be my and Ricks second time seeing Wire and Gareth's first. Shall be joyous! Adieu. Paul (paulye) _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V6 #183 *******************************