From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V6 #160 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Monday, June 2 2003 Volume 06 : Number 160 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] [OT] on top of the world [Bart van Damme ] Re: [idealcopy] Re:Cale ["Ian B" ] Re: [idealcopy] Re:Cale ["ian s jackson" ] Re: [idealcopy] Amsterlona??? ["Ian B" ] Re: [idealcopy] Re:Stereophonics/ ["Keith Astbury" ] [idealcopy] stage banter [David Crider ] Re: [idealcopy] Re:Stereophonics/ [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] OT: Nosey Matron Thing-ah [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Re:Cale [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Re:Stereophonics/ [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Re:King Crimson [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Re:King Crimson [HowardJSpencer@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Re:Stereophonics/ ["Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] [OT] on top of the world http://www.panoramas.dk/fullscreen2/full22.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 06:53:45 EDT From: HowardJSpencer@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Re:"Curly" Cale In a message dated 1/6/03 9:31:45 am, owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org writes: << having said that...does anyone else think that Cale is increasingly looking like a cooler version of Frankie Howerd with that hair-do of his...??? still, what he did was interesting nonetheless...him and the Mongolian (...???) songstress being the highlights of last nights weekly debacle... ian.s.j. >> haha and agreed on all counts, though I only saw one of Cale's song's before succumbing to sleep. I don't mind the Dandys as that kind of wacky student fodder goes. Howard ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 08:54:59 EDT From: Tisbili@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re:Stereophonics/More Bad Later tim@kidsindestructible.com writes: Certainly a lot more enjoyable than> > that wretched Lou Reed performance a couple of weeks back Lou was on some wretched NBC self promotional exercise last night, the absolute lowlight of which was a performance of "walk on the wild side" featuring Adam Sandler(!!), the least funny comedian ever. BillE rp: pianosaurus ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 13:31:09 +0100 From: "Ian B" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] 'Ere..... - ----- Original Message ----- From: ian s jackson > having said that...does anyone else think that Cale is increasingly looking > like a cooler version of Frankie Howerd with that hair-do of his...??? Spot on! Ian B (fresh from having much fun with the Soundtoy software that comes with the Tonne Soundtoy CD) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 13:37:35 +0100 From: "Ian B" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re:Cale > > From: "Ian B" > > >Cale was reasonably interesting though. Is the near slippage > > >into 'Born is the king of Israel' intentional? >>Reply from Tim > No 'L' No 'L'? Yeah probably. >>and Ian again I thought it might have been one of those moments of subconscious burial where he might realise with horror at some point whilst performing that he had in fact heard it before. Like Mark Smith rambling on about Gretchen Franklin in Telephone Thing, thinking he'd conjured up the name out of the ether only to be told later that it's the name of the actress who played confused old biddy Ethel on Eastenders. Also, Cale looked at is if he desperately wanted to get up off the stool on a number of occassions. 'Farmers' playing up perhaps. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 14:24:51 +0100 From: "ian s jackson" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re:Cale From: "Ian B" >Also, Cale looked at is if he desperately wanted to get up off the stool on >a number of occassions. 'Farmers' playing up perhaps. hahaha...funny...i noticed that too or maybe he was struggling against the urge to do 'the dying fly'... oops, nearly on topic there, sorry... ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 14:41:05 +0100 From: "Ian B" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Amsterlona??? Any reports from the Barca or A'dam shows? Work commitments kept me from either, despite outrageously cheap flights to Amsterdam from here in Leeds. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 16:50:52 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re:Stereophonics/ > quoting the magnificent lyric ; "i stood where oswald fired his > shot / in my opinion there's a bigger plot". what can you say to that? > > mind you , the vines are worse. p Reminds me of the Cranberries. Magnificent couplet ; ) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 16:53:36 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re:Stereophonics/More Bad Later > Worst haircut award has to go to the front man from Dandy Warhols. It > looked like an outrageous comb-over Hahahaha... It was truly a great cut. A bit like a cartoon Nobby Styles! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 16:11:33 +0000 From: "John Roberts" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: between-song banter Here's my top fives based on gigs I've been to but inclusion not necessarily for similar reasons: Best in between song banter: Jonathan Richman, Howe Gelb, Pere Ubu/David Thomas, Frank Sidebottom, Dr. Hook. Worst: Crass, The Fall, Bocca, Husker Du, Mad Caddies. John http://www.surf.to/ambition >From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com >To: idealcopy@smoe.org >Subject: [idealcopy] Re: between-song banter >Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 22:02:40 EDT > >In a message dated 5/30/03 9:44:18 PM, tim@kidsindestructible.com writes: > > >Low are the only band I've ever seen who are good > >at between-song banter, very funny and made more funny by the intense > >atmosphere while they are playing... > >i haven't had the pleasure of seeing them live yet, but for my money, grant >lee phillips is the single most entertaining stage performer when yer >talkin >between-song banter...and his songs are pretty darn tasty too ;o) > >-another the paul > >www.mp3.com/winteracademy _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 09:46:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Britt Subject: Fwd: Re: [idealcopy] Re: between-song banter John Roberts wrote: Here's my top fives based on gigs I've been to but inclusion not necessarily for similar reasons: Best in between song banter: Jonathan Richman, Howe Gelb, Pere Ubu/David Thomas, Frank Sidebottom, Dr. Hook. Worst: Crass, The Fall, Bocca, Husker Du, Mad Caddies. John .................. That some sorta hint at 'your boys' John? Ari Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 09:50:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] Hairdooz Keith Astbury wrote: From: "Keith Astbury" To: "Ian B" , Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re:Stereophonics/More Bad Later Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 16:53:36 +0100 > Worst haircut award has to go to the front man from Dandy Warhols. It > looked like an outrageous comb-over Hahahaha... It was truly a great cut. A bit like a cartoon Nobby Styles! ................... Funny how nobody has mentioned Robert Smiths Hairdo....(I know,I just did).........Ari0 Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 12:46:28 -0500 From: David Crider Subject: [idealcopy] stage banter Probably doesn't get much play here, but for my money Neil Young has some of the best intros and/or between song banter. Some of the early 70's era boots have up to 2 minute monologues between songs. Depends on his mood. My favorite is on 4 Way Street: "This song starts out real slow then fizzles out altogether" when introing Don't Let It Bring You Down. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 14:00:07 EDT From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re:Stereophonics/ just when you think things can get no worse , they do. in todays observer they review a new album by toyah , released "to capitalise on her recent tv exposure". (non uk listers , think yourself lucky here). better still , its influenced by "mogwai and elbow". less surprisingly , the reviewer thought it was shite. must try to hear fripp fripp one day , always seems a potentially humorous prospect. having never really been a KC fan , could somebody tell me who the other 3 guys were on that OGWT performance the other week? didn't think it was too bad until the singer started , but quirky prog vocals i can live without (you may not be surprised to hear) p ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 14:12:33 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: Nosey Matron Thing-ah << Like Mark Smith rambling on about Gretchen Franklin in Telephone Thing, thinking he'd conjured up the name out of the ether only to be told later that it's the name of the actress who played confused old biddy Ethel on Eastenders. >> Never believed that for a second. This from a man who's namechecked Ted Rogers, Alan Minter, Shakin' Stevens etc. As an aside, that Fall Peel sessions 2CD is out. Inexplicably, it now contains the first five sessions, plus 2 sessions from 1995. Which means the set's title (Words of expectation) is rendered meaningless by dint of the fact that the song WoE is in session 7, now not included. Still excellent, but would have been better with the 6th & 7th sessions included. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 14:16:11 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re:Cale << Also, Cale looked at is if he desperately wanted to get up off the stool on a number of occassions. 'Farmers' playing up perhaps. >> Post of the day!!! Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 14:20:37 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re:Stereophonics/ >> quoting the magnificent lyric ; "i stood where oswald fired his > shot / in my opinion there's a bigger plot". what can you say to that? > > mind you , the vines are worse. p Reminds me of the Cranberries. Magnificent couplet ; )<< They have a loooong way to go before they top the undisputed nabobs of lyrical shiteness. From the Cramberries' last album comes this gem. Suddenly something has happened to me As I was having my cup of tea Suddenly I was feeling depressed I was utterly and totally stressed Do you know you made me cry Do you know you made me die Phew! Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 14:32:52 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re:King Crimson << must try to hear fripp fripp one day , always seems a potentially humorous prospect. having never really been a KC fan , could somebody tell me who the other 3 guys were on that OGWT performance the other week? didn't think it was too bad until the singer started , but quirky prog vocals i can live without (you may not be surprised to hear) p >> Unfeasibly, I think I know the answer to this. As is well documented here, I don't "get" King Crimson at all and though the Old Grey performance was truly awful. The singer was, I believe, Adrian Belew, who is best known around these parts for his involvement with Talking Heads circa Remain in Light. The drummer was Bill Bruford who always seems to be in King Crimson. Too many drums. The bassist was playing one of those odd Chapman Stick contraptions so I assume he was Tony Levin. The Chapman Stick is a sort of combination guitar/bass thing that you play as if it was a guitar with 2 fretboards, so there's no plucking or strumming invoilved. Essential progman's tool. Impressed? Actually I hope this is bollocks. I'd willingly cede the Golden Anorak on this count.... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 14:41:32 EDT From: HowardJSpencer@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re:King Crimson Unfortunately Mark, I have to tell you that you seem to be right on all counts here - not that I'm a KC fan either, but I was intrigued by their comeback as a callow 16 year old as there was so much fuss about it. Belew was also responsible for an album called the Lone Rhino, from which there was a magnificent and unjustly neglected single called 'Big Electric Cat'. I say this, though everyone I've ever played it to thought it was shit. It was inspired by the mumblings of a wino Belew passed in the street. niiice. Howard ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 20:36:26 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re:Stereophonics/ > >> quoting the magnificent lyric ; "i stood where oswald fired his > > shot / in my opinion there's a bigger plot". what can you say to that? > > > > Reminds me of the Cranberries. Magnificent couplet ; )<< > > They have a loooong way to go before they top the undisputed nabobs of > lyrical shiteness. From the Cramberries' last album comes this gem. > > Suddenly something has happened to me > As I was having my cup of tea > Suddenly I was feeling depressed > I was utterly and totally stressed > Do you know you made me cry > Do you know you made me die > > Phew! > > Mark Yes, that's exactly the type I was thinking of. But wasn't there one even worse than that, to do with war? Keith NP Bowie - i dig everything (the 1966 pye single collection) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 20:43:22 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ot: xtc stagefright......... > i've corresponded with windy (of windy & carl) and she has said that she > hates going to big cities, not afraid of the stage or the crowd, just the city. i > guess they're managing ok, but that does make it difficult to tour when many > venues for indie bands are gonna be in big cities. > -another the paul I've never heard Windy & Carl, but as they're on Ochre Records (Skyray, AMP Studio, Land of Nod, Family of God etc) over here I've been meaning to for a while. What are they like? And what do you recommend? K. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 20:45:36 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re:Stereophonics/ > > mind you , the vines are worse. p > > The Vines are a soap opera masquerading as a band, only with lower production > values. > > - Andrew So does *anyone* like The Vines here? I notice the nme asked this week why they had once put Terris on their front cover. Can't help thinking they'll be asking the same question about The Vines in a couple of years. (And The Datsuns too...) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 20:58:18 +0100 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re:Stereophonics/ On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 08:36:26PM +0100, Keith Astbury wrote: > > >> quoting the magnificent lyric ; "i stood where oswald fired his > > > shot / in my opinion there's a bigger plot". what can you say to that? > > > > > > > Reminds me of the Cranberries. Magnificent couplet ; )<< > > > > They have a loooong way to go before they top the undisputed nabobs of > > lyrical shiteness. From the Cramberries' last album comes this gem. > > > > Suddenly something has happened to me > > As I was having my cup of tea > > Suddenly I was feeling depressed > > I was utterly and totally stressed > > Do you know you made me cry > > Do you know you made me die > > > > Phew! > > > > Mark > > Yes, that's exactly the type I was thinking of. But wasn't there one even > worse than that, to do with war? > > Keith That'd be "Zombie", one of their biggest (s)hits: With their tanks and their bombs And their bombs and their guns In your head, in your head They are cryin' In your head, in your head Zombie, zombie, zombie-eh-eh What's in your head, in your head Zombie, zombie, zombie-eh-eh-eh-oh Such lyrical mastery will have the Gang of Four bricking it, one suspects. Look upon these works, ye mortals, and *quail*. - ---- "Compare and contrast the lyrical treatment of themes of conflict, especially war crimes and criminals, in popular music since 1975. Make particular reference to "Reuters" by Wire, "Guns before Butter" by the Gang of Four, "Lucky" by Radiohead, and the collected works of the Cranberries. Lyrics are provided on page five: marks _will_ be deducted for bloodstains on the lyrics of the latter band, in particular those caused by ramming your pen through your own eyeballs in disgust." [ 40 MARKS ] - ---- - - Andrew (who suspects the Cranberries think "irony" means "quite like steel"...) - -- home - email: andrew@lexical.org.uk | http://www.lexical.org.uk/ work - email: adw27@esc.cam.ac.uk | http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ radio - 11pm Wednesdays, "Random Walk" | http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 16:05:40 EDT From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re:King Crimson In a message dated 6/1/03 7:34:19 PM GMT Daylight Time, MarkBursa@aol.com writes: > The Chapman Stick is a sort of combination guitar/bass thing that > you play as if it was a guitar with 2 fretboards, so there's no plucking or > strumming invoilved. Essential progman's tool. > ////i saw a truly awesome clip of one of these being used by nick "kajagoogoo" beggs who these days , bizarrely , plays with john paul jones (yep , the led zep / kaja link we've all been looking for). appears to be an instrument with vast muso possibilities but unsighted on any albums in my collection far as i know > Impressed? /////er . possibly. i'm still worried that you may have bought that cranberries album................p ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 21:13:44 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re:King Crimson > ////i saw a truly awesome clip of one of these being used by nick > "kajagoogoo" beggs who these days , bizarrely , plays with john paul jones (yep , the > led zep / kaja link we've all been looking for). Been a long time since I rock and rolled because I'm too shy, shy... And as for squeezing lemons??? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 16:15:17 EDT From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re:King Crimson In a message dated 6/1/03 9:12:33 PM GMT Daylight Time, keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: > And as for squeezing lemons??? ///////be great to see limahl let loose on the led zep songbook. "gonna give you every inch of my love"............p ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 21:43:31 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re:King Crimson > > And as for squeezing lemons??? > > ///////be great to see limahl let loose on the led zep songbook. "gonna give > you every inch of my love"............p I think it might be, to quote our Marc, the one inch rock ; ) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 17:46:22 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re:Stereophonics/ Yes, that's exactly the type I was thinking of. But wasn't there one even worse than that, to do with war? Possibly this gem, entitled 'Bosnia' I would like to state my vision, Life was so unfair. We live in our secure surroundings, And people die out there. Genius. For a treasury of Cranberries lyric hell http://www.azlyrics.com/c/cranberries.html Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 17:50:16 EDT From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re:Stereophonics/ tragic news in todays paper ; this years fleadh is cancelled as they can't find a vaguely big , vaguely celtic band to headline....... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 17:58:57 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re:King Crimson << Unfortunately Mark, I have to tell you that you seem to be right on all counts here - not that I'm a KC fan either, but I was intrigued by their comeback as a callow 16 year old as there was so much fuss about it. >> Should I award myself a golden progger's cape to go with the anorak?? Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 18:56:57 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: between-song banter In a message dated 6/1/03 12:11:44 PM, johnroberts_stats@hotmail.com writes: >Best in between song banter: Jonathan Richman, Howe Gelb, Pere Ubu/David > >Thomas, Frank Sidebottom, Dr. Hook. your 1,2, and 3 picks would probably make my top ten too. 4 and 5 i haven't seen, so... - -paul c.d www.mp3.com/winteracademy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 00:14:41 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: between-song banter > In a message dated 6/1/03 12:11:44 PM, johnroberts_stats@hotmail.com writes: > > >Best in between song banter: Jonathan Richman, Howe Gelb, Pere Ubu/David > > > >Thomas, Frank Sidebottom, Dr. Hook. > > your 1,2, and 3 picks would probably make my top ten too. 4 and 5 i haven't > seen, so... > > -paul c.d But mentioning Pere Ubu, Frank Sidebottom and Dr Hook in the same mail is hugely impressive! Keith NP Julian - floored genius 3 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 19:16:44 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] ot: windy & carl In a message dated 6/1/03 3:41:57 PM, keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: > > >I've never heard Windy & Carl, but as they're on Ochre Records (Skyray, >AMP > >Studio, Land of Nod, Family of God etc) over here I've been meaning to >for a > >while. > > > >What are they like? And what do you recommend? the best answer i can give you will cover both questions. the first one (drawing of sound) is the most songlike, and as you move towards the newer releases they get more and more soundscapey (now there's an adjective for ya). that's the best way i can describe the way their sound has progressed. if you like stuff on the kranky label like low and labradford and you can imagine something somewhere between those two, that should give you a pretty good idea. even better, there are mp3 samples on the kranky site http://brainwashed.com/kranky/sounds.html from their album, consciousness, which was recorded after the two had been listening to lots of alice coltrane. cheers, paul c.d. www.mp3.com/winteracademy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 19:31:49 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re:Stereophonics/ In a message dated 6/1/03 1:01:14 PM Central Daylight Time, PaulRabjohn@aol.com writes: > must try to hear fripp fripp one day , always seems a potentially humorous > prospect. having never really been a KC fan , could somebody tell me who the > > other 3 guys were on that OGWT performance the other week? didn't think it > was > funny that you should mention Fripp..i have never been a King Crimson fan but i love Fripp's solo stuff and collaborations with Eno... np - FFWD (Robert Fripp, Thomas Fehlmann, Kris Weston, Dr. Alex Paterson)...a fine collaboration of Fripp and the Orb....dreamy and floaty... Robert ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 19:34:07 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re:King Crimson In a message dated 6/1/03 4:07:10 PM, PaulRabjohn@aol.com writes: >> The Chapman Stick is a sort of combination guitar/bass thing that >> you play as if it was a guitar with 2 fretboards, so there's no plucking >or >> strumming invoilved. Essential progman's tool. >> > >////i saw a truly awesome clip of one of these being used by nick >"kajagoogoo" beggs like him or not, tony levin is an absolute master on either the stick or the bass. i also think he plays with taste, which is the most important thing in all of music to me. there are many other bands/performers out there, with less technical ability, who approach their music with greater emotion and/or unconventionality as well, and are therefore highest up on my list. then there are the ones who, because of some great gift or technical ability, have the potential to do something great, yet always seem to screw it up. - -paul (morrissey, i like your songs and your voice but i wish you knew when to shut your mouth) c.d. www.mp3.com/winteracademy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 19:38:00 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re:King Crimson In a message dated 6/1/03 3:16:05 PM Central Daylight Time, PaulRabjohn@aol.com writes: > >And as for squeezing lemons??? > > ///////be great to see limahl let loose on the led zep songbook. "gonna give > > you every inch of my love"............p > ok boys...STOP IT !!!!!!!!! now!!!!!! RL ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 19:39:48 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re:Stereophonics/ In a message dated 6/1/03 4:51:13 PM Central Daylight Time, PaulRabjohn@aol.com writes: > tragic news in todays paper ; this years fleadh is cancelled as they can't > find a vaguely big , vaguely celtic band to headline....... > can't Julian Cope come up with something naff to save the day?? RL ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 19:41:12 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re:King Crimson In a message dated 6/1/03 5:00:06 PM Central Daylight Time, MarkBursa@aol.com writes: > Should I award myself a golden progger's cape to go with the anorak?? > > Mark > only if it has an silk-screened image of the "Tales of Topographic Oceans" album cover.... : ) RL ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 19:45:30 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re:King Crimson In a message dated 6/1/03 6:35:06 PM Central Daylight Time, Eardrumbuz@aol.com writes: > -paul (morrissey, i like your songs and your voice but i wish you knew when > > to shut your mouth) c.d. > > well, at least the comment about the Russian Lesbian Teenagers was funny.. RL ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 23:58:58 +0000 From: "John Roberts" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: between-song banter Well there was a good reason for Dr. Hook - it was for my mum's birthday. Although I was genuinely impressed by how humble they were. The breakdown of a distinction between audience and band was almost punk rock. Almost mind. Support was Dean Friedman. Now that was hell: Lucky Stars, Lydia and everything. John http://www.surf.to/ambition >From: "Keith Astbury" >To: , >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: between-song banter >Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 00:14:41 +0100 > > > In a message dated 6/1/03 12:11:44 PM, johnroberts_stats@hotmail.com >writes: > > > > >Best in between song banter: Jonathan Richman, Howe Gelb, Pere >Ubu/David > > > > > >Thomas, Frank Sidebottom, Dr. Hook. > > > > your 1,2, and 3 picks would probably make my top ten too. 4 and 5 i >haven't > > seen, so... > > > > -paul c.d > >But mentioning Pere Ubu, Frank Sidebottom and Dr Hook in the same mail is >hugely impressive! > >Keith > >NP Julian - floored genius 3 _________________________________________________________________ Find a cheaper internet access deal - choose one to suit you. http://www.msn.co.uk/internetaccess ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 17:17:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Santa Cruzer Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re:King Crimson/Levin/Stick/Banter I've been pretty much school-oriented lately, but am wrapping it all up and had to chime in on this thread! I'm a major Crimson fan and from that connection, The Tony Levin Band was the first concert I worked on as a promoter. Not only is Tony one of the most jaw-droppingly great musicians in contemporary music, he is also an incredibly nice guy (which rates very high in my book!) and really went out of his way to put on a great show in spite of being sick as a dog, talk to the fans and sign every object that was placed in front of him. A wonderful time! The next show I'm working on is a stick player from San Diego named Tom Greisgraber. He warmed up for the California Guitar Trio in March and was really cool! And to round out the subject line, Paul Richards of the CGT is one of the funniest musicians I've ever heard between amazing songs, he absolutely cracked up the audience. A close second is Richard Thompson! > like him or not, tony levin is an absolute master on > either the stick or the > bass. i also think he plays with taste, which is the > most important thing in > all of music to me. there are many other > bands/performers out there, with less > technical ability, who approach their music with > greater emotion and/or > unconventionality as well, and are therefore highest > up on my list. then there are > the ones who, because of some great gift or > technical ability, have the > potential to do something great, yet always seem to > screw it up. ===== Rick Hindman, 3R Productions PO Box 7770 Santa Cruz, CA 95062 t: (831) 425-7335 f: (831) 425-7356 http://www.3rproductions.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 20:20:48 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Re: o.t. my middle name In a message dated 6/1/03 7:46:04 PM, RLynn9@aol.com writes: > >> -paul (morrissey, i like your songs and your voice but i wish you knew >when >> >> to shut your mouth) c.d. >> >> > >well, at least the comment about the Russian Lesbian Teenagers was funny.. ow. ok, that didn't really hurt. but what are you saying, you don't think morrissey sings too much? seriously, i think many smiths/solo songs would've been better if he showed a little restraint. give the music a little breathing room, ya know? - -paul (mariah carey, you've been given a gift from god, and you've dragged it through the sewer repeatedly) c.d. www.mp3.com/winteracademy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 17:58:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Ari Britt Subject: Fwd: Re: [idealcopy] Re:Stereophonics/fleadh PaulRabjohn@aol.com wrote: tragic news in todays paper ; this years fleadh is cancelled as they can't find a vaguely big , vaguely celtic band to headline....... Eh,Wossat? Ari Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 21:21:06 EDT From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: between-song banter << Support was Dean Friedman. Now that was hell: Lucky Stars, Lydia and everything. >> Oh dear. Did you require counselling afterwards? ;-) Lucky stars is probably ther worst record of any genre ever made, ever. Though You're moving out today by Carole Bayer Sager runs it close. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 10:44:33 +0800 From: "Tim ****" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: between-song banter Dean Friedman 'Lydia' i used to quite like that! I've seen Freddie Starr with Renee & Renata(?)...oh yes it's true..just don't ask why....... FS in song banter was tops!! I seem to remember Wir at Sheffield Leadmill circa 1990 where they were distinctly 'cheesed off' for whatever reason & proceeded to play the 2nd half of the gig as one long melody of their entire back catalogue at some considerable speed (Makes the faster parts of 'Send' sound like the 1st Swans Lp!) Kinda like Wir on 45..anyone know about this or was it a regular feature in 1990 by the fun lovin' Wir combo...?? Tim - ----Original Message Follows---- From: MarkBursa@aol.com To: johnroberts_stats@hotmail.com, keith.astbury10@virgin.net, Eardrumbuz@aol.com, idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: between-song banter Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 21:21:06 EDT << Support was Dean Friedman. Now that was hell: Lucky Stars, Lydia and everything. >> Oh dear. Did you require counselling afterwards? ;-) Lucky stars is probably ther worst record of any genre ever made, ever. Though You're moving out today by Carole Bayer Sager runs it close. Mark _________________________________________________________________ Get mobile Hotmail. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V6 #160 *******************************