From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V6 #113 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Monday, April 21 2003 Volume 06 : Number 113 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Fresh Meat for Mixing ["Bill Hick" ] [idealcopy] Half Eaten Stockings (Feed Them to the Devil Dogs) ["Bill Hic] [idealcopy] Rhodes On the Rocks ["Bill Hick" ] Re: [idealcopy] New Wire date / Review ["Ian B" Subject: [idealcopy] Fresh Meat for Mixing >http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/comingup/mixingitc.shtml > >20 April 2003 - 23:00-24.05 > >Mark Russell and Robert Sandall introduce eclectic >new sounds on CD, and are joined by Bruce Gilbert >and Colin Newman of veteran art-punk band Wire, to >discuss their first new album for 12 years. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 13:57:41 +0100 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] Half Eaten Stockings (Feed Them to the Devil Dogs) When my main man Brucie G steps up to the mic for Half Eaten he'll bring your daughters to the slaughter Mrs Porter, temperatures rising in his M&S underwear! Raps thru thick distortion bounce along in anti-Oil War caustic burial of proper gander common terrys. Igniting fires on Send's shortest Brucie rips it up and raps like he invented hopping on his days off. This is a quickfire scene setting for the uncertain road and an update / counterpoint to the Lewis Agfers dire-tribe. Preceded by the best of the four new tracks You Can't Leave Now, this opens up questions of presentation for scenes of Flag Burning. 99.9 is the last blast and this is the number where Colin is left alone to holler. It seems obvious that as Colin enunciates the final flaming line 'You cunt! LEAVE NOW!' that maybe half the band might up their sticks and stalk off. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Bruce's utterly ravaged semi-incomprehense machine rap is not sung live, so I'd guess he and Colin might perform Half Eaten with the rhythm section replaced by Devlin's Sent Images. Bruce could then be replaced by Harsh Lights during 99.9. How will it bee? Will Lewis and Grey be fed to the dogs? Noxagt + Bilge Pump: May 7, Retrobar Trumans Water + I'm Being Good: June 5, Tmesis Manchester Gigs from Cracked Machine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 13:59:45 +0100 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] Rhodes On the Rocks 24 April Rhodes + Klang @ On The Rocks, 25 Kingsland Road, London E2, Old Street Tube I will be getting in early for a few drinks. Anyone going to see Susan Stenger & Michael Clark the next day? Cracked Machine Highly Irregular Cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine "She went away for a holiday Says she's going to LA" (Ramones - The KKK Took My Baby Away) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:48:16 +0100 From: "Ian B" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] New Wire date / Review PE lists a new date in Paris - 7th May (new to me anyway) Send reviewed positively (in conjunction with new Buzzcocks) in a mag called Magnet (which I've never seen before but seemed okay to stand and read for a few minutes in Borders). IB ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:57:30 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] [OT] Macca/C'mon and let me know... Bart - But I understand your point, experiencing a concert more like a social experiment. I do wonder of what stuff the high of "belonging to crowd" is made of. Of course we'd like to think of ourselves as individuals, but really we aren't. We just have different tresholds of surrendering (and you're free to quote me on that). Can't wait to see people crying over Obladee Oblada ;-) - ------------------ I usually try to distance myself from the crowd mentality but I succumb sometimes, most recently at the Polyphonic Spree. At most gigs you can enjoy (watch, dance, discreetly nod head, whatever) in an individual way but the Spree doesn't allow that - you're either sucked in totally or not at all IMO (not an opinion shared by those I went with by the way). - -------------------- > Tomorrow - Calla and Flotation Toy Warning. Know next to nothing about > the support but they have a fine website > http://www.flotationtoywarning.com/ How was Calla? Curious! - ---------------- Calla were really fine - very skilled at what they do, sometimes to the point of containment. The sound was great (does this have anything to do with a Rickenbacker bass? - can't recall seeing many of those around but maybe that's because I was closer to the stage than normal - frankly I know nothing about musical instruments)and the songs were strong throughout (some back catalogue stuff I assume, not having heard anything pre-Televise - I see Rough Trade has the first album back in stock, anyone know it?). This sounds slightly like damning with faint praise but I really enjoyed them. Flotation Toy Warning are the first post-British Sea Power band (not bad going for a band yet to release an album). There wear uniforms, have a slide show with vague historical connections (although unlike the website no reference to Polar exploration unfortunately although the singer wore a white fisherman's smock not a million miles from Scott Antarctic ware)and taped spoken intros from the archives. The songs were gnarly and interestingly composed. In a short set the last song stood out - sung slightly off-mike in an operatic manner while the guitarist laid down some sub-Hawaiian slide guitar. I can safely say I've never heard nothing like it before and the band deserve attention for that song alone - they got big applause from a hitherto nonplussed audience. At the bottom of the bill - though not for long - were the Delays. One of those bands who seem to come fully-formed for stardom. They have a pretty boy singer with a lovely voice, bone structure and an early Julian Cope haircut, an animated keyboardist who may be his brother and a competent rhythm section. They exploded off the stage in a manner which suggested they are about to take the world by storm. Admittedly my third-on-the-bill predictions for stardom haven't followed through in recent years - JJ72 and Embrace anyone? - but this lot were at least on that level. The new JJ72, you heard it here first (poor old JJ72's second album could be had yesterday for three quid in Fopp and I didn't even buy it for old times' sake). Another the Keith [I was on the Manchester Utd website earlier with my son (he added hastily) and they have a digital countdown to the next game to the nearest second. It would be nice to have something similar here for flag:burning!) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:58:57 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Another the Roll Call It's the Shakespeare, opposite Barbican tube station. From say 7pm (although I'm sure some will be getting there earlier) Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of ian.s. jackson Sent: 18 April 2003 23:56 To: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Another the Roll Call >Own up everyone - where are you all going to be? oh ok...Mr & Mrs Ian.S.Jackson - Stalls Row P 40-something (dont have tickets to hand, cant remember...) you won't miss me, i'll be the one with the Groucho Marx mask... at some point, will 'someone' please confirm location and time for pre-gig drinks...??? ta very much... _________________________________________________________________ On the move? Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/mobile ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 19:33:17 EDT From: Rain19c@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Buy New Swim Record Now - AKATOMBO "Trace Elements" Apologies if someone (giluz?) has posted this already, but you can purchase the new Swim release "Trace Elements" by Akatombo now at posteverything. I really dig the album title, hopefully the music is as as good. ~Michael ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 00:50:58 +0100 From: "david heale" Subject: [idealcopy] mixing it-bbcr3 ... and the sound of boiling kettles the private recordings of PETER WILLIAMS..SOUND artist- from Watford: ok... which intrepid idealcopier is well connected enough to locate a copy of this - private cdr... as mentioned by bruce tonight on the bbcr3 " mixing it" .. THE SOUND of a kettle boiling....and other sound collages - i'd like to hear.... nigh night david in cornwall gotta go.. as i'm making a field recording of the coughing and wheezing of our old kitchen water heat (ascot) right now.. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 19:52:44 EDT From: Rain19c@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Wire & The Fall & Erase Errata Live Anyone notice that The Fall are playing Chicago 2 days after the 2 Wire Chicago gigs? Look like I will be heading out and camping in Chicago for a few days. I am totally looking forward to this, it almost makes up for the Flag:burning event I will be missing. Also, I saw Erase Errata live in Boston last night. HOLY FUCK were they amazing. Incredible non-stop no wave with a female vocalist who yelps somewhat like Mark E. Smith. They are pretty damn good on record, but nowhere near as incendiary as they are live. If they are playing in your town, I wouldn't hesitate to go and see them. I'm thinking about skipping work and just following the rest of this tour. Trainspotter's note : The first line of the new Dandy Warhols record is "Wire's coming back again, Elastica got sued by them." ~Michael ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 20:02:40 EDT From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire & The Fall & Erase Errata Live In a message dated 4/20/03 7:53:43 PM, Rain19c@aol.com writes: > >Trainspotter's note : The first line of the new Dandy Warhols record is > >"Wire's coming back again, Elastica got sued by them." wow, that's a great one! wish i wrote it. sounds like something i woulda written had i been thinkin along those lines. so...does the music live up to that one line? i haven't quite gotten into them at all. - -paul (gonna keep an ear out for erase errata too) c.d. p.s. michael, are you closer to (or in) boston or chicago? are the fall slated in for ny yet? i gotta save up for my wire ticket and a few others, me thinks... www.mp3.com/winteracademy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 19:07:13 -0500 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire & The Fall & Erase Errata Live have you heard an advance copy, then? (capitol won't be releasing the album till late july, some 2 months after europe gets it.) their last 2 were among my favorite releases of the last few years. dan >Trainspotter's note : The first line of the new Dandy Warhols record is >"Wire's coming back again, Elastica got sued by them." > >~Michael ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V6 #113 *******************************