From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V6 #108 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Wednesday, April 16 2003 Volume 06 : Number 108 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Macca/C'mon and let me know... ["Keith Astbury" ] [idealcopy] dictaphone ["Magnetic North" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Macca/C'mon and let me know... I'd say you gotta go! He's a Beatle, I read that the band don't try and make the early songs too frilly, and he does Live & Let Die! I don't like big shows either, but it's Paul McCartney! And it's supposed to be a good show by all accounts, Bart... Keith > Gee, I made a weddinginvitationcard for a friend and what do I get... > a ticket to the Macca concert next week in Arnhem! > > Now I'm not someone who dislikes him... on the contrary, the man did so much > for pop (I enjoyed the White Album just the other day), but... I'm just not > that keen on these kinda big shows. > > Should I stay or should I go...? > > Bart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 11:09:05 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Reviewing Malkmus' new one Mark: > Stereolab? Auteurs? > Both of these delivered more consistently for me than Pavement. Keith: > Stereolab would probably get my vote too. Like 'em both (especially Stereolab), though for me they're no contestants for BBOT90's. Curious which band our other friends would choose here. AT Keith: > Bart asked: AT Keith, you already have Pig Lib? > tell the truth, I haven't even thought of it for a couple of weeks, so > it may have missed that window of opportunity that some albums get on > release, after which they don't get bought until they turn up cheap Mine's a similar situation, though I am determined to get me this one. > I'd leap to buy a new Preston School of Industry album though. Still haven't heard All This Sounds Gas. How does it compare to I dunno... PAVEMENT? Scott Kannberg being the anglophile he is, my guess is it must sound more British than Malkmus' outlets. True? Bart "My naked chest is in no way and will never be as hard as Iggy's." Read all about Scott's chest at: http://www.matadorrecords.com/preston_school_of_industry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 11:56:18 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Macca/C'mon and let me know... > I'd say you gotta go! > > He's a Beatle, I read that the band don't try and make the early songs too > frilly, and he does Live & Let Die! > > I don't like big shows either, but it's Paul McCartney! And it's supposed to > be a good show by all accounts, Bart... Sounds good... thnx Keith. Still a bit about worried if I'll be needing binoculars. The setlist ain't half bad. Heard there was a faster version of Hey Jude. Let's get that one over with within 1 minute eh! Once on telly I heard a German pronounce Hey Jude with a heavy heavy accent wich made the song sound as if it were about Jewish people! Would be nice for Paul to incorporate into the show wouldn't it? C'mon Macca, do the funny walk! World-tour: Hello goodbye - Jet - All my loving - Getting better - Coming up - - Let me roll it - Lonely road - Driving rain - Loving flame - Blackbird - Every night - We can work it out (akoestisch - Mother nature's son - Vanilla sky - You never give me your money/Carry that weight - The fool on the hill - - Here today - Something - Eleanor Rigby - Here, there and everywhere - Band on the run - Back in the USSR - Maybe I'm amazed - C Moon - My love - Can't buy me love - Freedom - Live and let die - Let it be - Hey Jude - The long and winding road - Lady Madonna - I saw her standing there - Yesterday - The end. Bart http://www.paulmccartney.com http://www.beatles-unlimited.com/bunews.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 03:27:50 -0800 From: "Magnetic North" Subject: [idealcopy] Radio BBC 6 Funny to hear Mercy from CHairs Missing on BBC radio 6 right now. It consoles someone who has problems at work the radio-dj says. Free speech and more... - -------- Einstuerzende Neubauten (www.neubauten.org) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 05:42:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Fergus Kelly Subject: [idealcopy] Spare ticket for Barbie Maybe it's a bit late in the day, but if anyone's not got their ticket for the flag:burning yet, I've one to spare, and would quite like to get rid of it. Row B seat 48 - Graham's side of the stage - 20 quid. Mail me off list... Fergus --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 12:29:24 -0500 From: Michael Flaherty Subject: [idealcopy] Re: 2xMagic Seagull Lightning >From: "Bill Hick" >Subject: [idealcopy] 2xMagic Seagull Lightning >New Niblock 2CD Touch Food might be his best ever, though some might say he's >pretty singleminded. Michael Flaherty will be interested to note that the bass >droner played by Kaspar Toeplitz could be even better than that naughty man >Jim O'Rourke's hurdy gurdy thingamebob. I will be ordering this ASAP. Toeplitz played the track he did w/ Niblock when he was here--a highlight in one of the most amazing drone nights imaginable. I will also make a mental note of the Poss discs, but they may hasve to wait a bit. Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 19:46:24 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] [OT] Macca/C'mon and let me know... Well, to be honest Bart, I wouldn't cross the road to hear many of these songs - if I never hear Fool on the Hill, Hey Jude, L&W Road and Yesterday again my life would be better (or shorter than planned). As someone who has avoided stadium gigs like the plague I finally succumbed by seeing REM in Cardiff on the Monster tour. I was near the very top of a sports stadium, miles from the band (who, being REM, didn't bother with screens). But perversely I really enjoyed it, mostly as a spectacle. I enjoyed the ebb and flow of the people on the pitch and there was a different feel to most of the gigs I go to. I recall a girl sobbing into her boyfriend's shoulder during Everybody Hurts, which is not something that tends to happen at the average Penthouse gig (not that they play Everybody Hurts... you know what I mean). Not been back to a stadium since though (I'm not counting HearSay at Docklands Arena here for obvious reasons). Tomorrow - Calla and Flotation Toy Warning. Know next to nothing about the support but they have a fine website http://www.flotationtoywarning.com/ Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Bart van Damme Sent: 15 April 2003 10:56 To: wire-news Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Macca/C'mon and let me know... > I'd say you gotta go! > > He's a Beatle, I read that the band don't try and make the early songs too > frilly, and he does Live & Let Die! > > I don't like big shows either, but it's Paul McCartney! And it's supposed to > be a good show by all accounts, Bart... Sounds good... thnx Keith. Still a bit about worried if I'll be needing binoculars. The setlist ain't half bad. Heard there was a faster version of Hey Jude. Let's get that one over with within 1 minute eh! Once on telly I heard a German pronounce Hey Jude with a heavy heavy accent wich made the song sound as if it were about Jewish people! Would be nice for Paul to incorporate into the show wouldn't it? C'mon Macca, do the funny walk! World-tour: Hello goodbye - Jet - All my loving - Getting better - Coming up - - Let me roll it - Lonely road - Driving rain - Loving flame - Blackbird - - Every night - We can work it out (akoestisch - Mother nature's son - Vanilla sky - You never give me your money/Carry that weight - The fool on the hill - - Here today - Something - Eleanor Rigby - Here, there and everywhere - Band on the run - Back in the USSR - Maybe I'm amazed - C Moon - My love - Can't buy me love - Freedom - Live and let die - Let it be - Hey Jude - The long and winding road - Lady Madonna - I saw her standing there - Yesterday - The end. Bart http://www.paulmccartney.com http://www.beatles-unlimited.com/bunews.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 13:58:17 -0500 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Macca/C'mon and let me know... only stadium show i've ever been to was the stones in little rock in 11/94, using tickets bought for my birthday 2 months earlier by my girlfriend, a week before we broke up. as a result we found ourselves sitting together, maybe 10 rows behind the governor, who a few months later left office after being indicted in kenneth starr's whitewater witch hunt. interesting times ... back in spring or so of '84, was supposed to go to some stadium-esque show with the police, thompson twins & madness, but a day or 2 earlier i screwed up my foot while coming down with a rebound in basketball & couldn't even think about climbing the necessary stairs. just as well, in retrospect. i do seem to recall that that was the first show i'd heard about featuring video screens ... dan >Well, to be honest Bart, I wouldn't cross the road to hear many of these >songs - if I never hear Fool on the Hill, Hey Jude, L&W Road and >Yesterday again my life would be better (or shorter than planned). > >As someone who has avoided stadium gigs like the plague I finally >succumbed by seeing REM in Cardiff on the Monster tour. I was near the >very top of a sports stadium, miles from the band (who, being REM, >didn't bother with screens). But perversely I really enjoyed it, mostly >as a spectacle. I enjoyed the ebb and flow of the people on the pitch >and there was a different feel to most of the gigs I go to. I recall a >girl sobbing into her boyfriend's shoulder during Everybody Hurts, which >is not something that tends to happen at the average Penthouse gig (not >that they play Everybody Hurts... you know what I mean). Not been back >to a stadium since though (I'm not counting HearSay at Docklands Arena >here for obvious reasons). > >Tomorrow - Calla and Flotation Toy Warning. Know next to nothing about >the support but they have a fine website >http://www.flotationtoywarning.com/ > >Another the Keith > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On >Behalf Of Bart van Damme >Sent: 15 April 2003 10:56 >To: wire-news >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Macca/C'mon and let me know... > >> I'd say you gotta go! >> >> He's a Beatle, I read that the band don't try and make the early songs >too >> frilly, and he does Live & Let Die! >> >> I don't like big shows either, but it's Paul McCartney! And it's >supposed to >> be a good show by all accounts, Bart... > > >Sounds good... thnx Keith. Still a bit about worried if I'll be needing >binoculars. > >The setlist ain't half bad. Heard there was a faster version of Hey >Jude. >Let's get that one over with within 1 minute eh! >Once on telly I heard a German pronounce Hey Jude with a heavy heavy >accent >wich made the song sound as if it were about Jewish people! Would be >nice >for Paul to incorporate into the show wouldn't it? C'mon Macca, do the >funny >walk! > >World-tour: Hello goodbye - Jet - All my loving - Getting better - >Coming up >- Let me roll it - Lonely road - Driving rain - Loving flame - Blackbird >- >Every night - We can work it out (akoestisch - Mother nature's son - >Vanilla >sky - You never give me your money/Carry that weight - The fool on the >hill >- Here today - Something - Eleanor Rigby - Here, there and everywhere - >Band >on the run - Back in the USSR - Maybe I'm amazed - C Moon - My love - >Can't >buy me love - Freedom - Live and let die - Let it be - Hey Jude - The >long >and winding road - Lady Madonna - I saw her standing there - Yesterday - >The >end. > > >Bart > >http://www.paulmccartney.com >http://www.beatles-unlimited.com/bunews.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 15:26:17 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Macca/C'mon and let me know... In a message dated 4/15/03 2:00:13 PM Central Daylight Time, dpbailey@worldnet.att.net writes: << only stadium show i've ever been to was the stones in little rock in 11/94, >> ahh....and for me, it was a "SUPERJAM" at Busch Stadium here in St. Louis around 1976 or 77... "SUPERJAM" was a horrid all-day event that i believe consisted of : Journey Styx Sammy Hagar REO Speedwagon April Wine (who are kind of fun) Shooting Star (i think) and several other ultra-lame "rawk" bands that i was forced to listen to because my baby-sitter (who was watching me for an entire weekend) dragged me along (without my parents consent of course) because her boyfriend surprised her with tickets.... ugh....i would have been much happier to stay at home and listen to the clicking and clacking of playing cards stuck in the spokes of my bicycle wheel .... a hideous time indeed...even for a 8 year old especially after a seeing Earth Wind and Fire and Parliament...they were like crazy super-heroes to me... RL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 20:35:18 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] [OT] Macca/C'mon and let me know... Dear God - my sympathies to your 8 year old self Robert. Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: RLynn9@aol.com "SUPERJAM" was a horrid all-day event that i believe consisted of : Journey Styx Sammy Hagar REO Speedwagon April Wine (who are kind of fun) Shooting Star (i think) and several other ultra-lame "rawk" bands that i was forced to listen to because my baby-sitter (who was watching me for an entire weekend) dragged me along (without my parents consent of course) because her boyfriend surprised her with tickets.... ugh....i would have been much happier to stay at home and listen to the clicking and clacking of playing cards stuck in the spokes of my bicycle wheel .... a hideous time indeed...even for a 8 year old ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 15:40:40 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [OT] Macca/C'mon and let me know... In a message dated 4/15/03 2:35:58 PM Central Daylight Time, steeleknight@lineone.net writes: << Dear God - my sympathies to your 8 year old self Robert. Another the Keith >> luckily , i wasn't an easily influenced child.....thankfully, it wasn't until my teens that i was influenced by my friends who listened to "crap 80's synth-pop bands" RL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 20:04:01 +0000 From: "John Roberts" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Stadium Rock This sounds like the kind of terrible childhood experience that might unleash the creative impulse that is the Half Man Half Biscuit back catalogue: 'Seen By My Mates Coming Out of a Styx Gig', 'Everything's AOR', references to REO Speedwagon, etc. Mind you, I did see Dean Friedman once - 'Bastard Son of...' being a HMHB tune - and I lived to grow up reasonably well adjusted too. (Not that Half Man Half Biscuit aren't reasonably well adjusted too, of course.) When I had my chat with Graham Lewis - after I bumped into him on the train after the Nottingham gig the other year - there was no doubting that he found Wire's stadium experience with Depeche Mode a tad surreal. Cheers John >From: "Keith Knight" >To: , >Subject: RE: [idealcopy] [OT] Macca/C'mon and let me know... >Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 20:35:18 +0100 > >Dear God - my sympathies to your 8 year old self Robert. > >Another the Keith > >-----Original Message----- >From: RLynn9@aol.com > > >"SUPERJAM" was a horrid all-day event that i believe consisted of : > >Journey >Styx >Sammy Hagar >REO Speedwagon >April Wine (who are kind of fun) >Shooting Star (i think) > >and several other ultra-lame "rawk" bands that i was forced to listen to > >because my baby-sitter (who was watching me for an entire weekend) >dragged me >along (without my parents consent of course) because her boyfriend >surprised >her with tickets.... > >ugh....i would have been much happier to stay at home and listen to the >clicking and clacking of playing cards stuck in the spokes of my bicycle > >wheel .... > >a hideous time indeed...even for a 8 year old _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail messages direct to your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/mobile ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 21:22:15 +0100 From: "Tim" Subject: [idealcopy] Another the Spare Ticket I also have a spare ticket for the Barbican. In the stalls, Row K (9 rows from front in the middle). The only tickets left now are at the back of the circle or the balcony. E-mail me off list. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 14:26:38 -0800 From: "Magnetic North" Subject: [idealcopy] dictaphone I have not heard this yet, but there is an interesting special of Dictaphone been brodcast ob Dutch radio programm De Avonden and could still be listen on http://pages.vpro.nl/3voor12/shows/deavondenspecials/index.shtml? 2785571+3689971+3689888 There are more like Fennesz, Main, Oren Ambarchi, A Silver Mount Zion, etc. JanJ - -------- Einstuerzende Neubauten (www.neubauten.org) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 23:46:48 +0100 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: [idealcopy] Another the Roll Call On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 09:22:15PM +0100, Tim wrote: > I also have a spare ticket for the Barbican. > In the stalls, Row K (9 rows from front in the middle). I'm in P28. Own up everyone - where are you all going to be? - - Andrew - -- email: andrew@lexical.org.uk http://www.lexical.org.uk/ Earth Sciences, University of Cambridge http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ CUR1350, 1350 MW Cambridgeshire and online http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 19:03:31 EDT From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Another the Roll Call > On Tue, Apr 15, 2003 at 09:22:15PM +0100, Tim wrote: > > I also have a spare ticket for the Barbican. > > In the stalls, Row K (9 rows from front in the middle). > > I'm in P28. > > Own up everyone - where are you all going to be? > > - Andrew > > um...i'll be in the middle of nowhere USA, below sea level , row 9 lucky bastards NP - PP Roy "You Can't Help Liking PP Roy" (Rephlex) RL ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V6 #108 *******************************