From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V6 #98 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Sunday, April 6 2003 Volume 06 : Number 098 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] OT UK TV OGWT ["John Roberts" ] Re: [idealcopy] OT UK TV OGWT ["Keith Astbury" ] Re: [idealcopy] buzzcocks & bunnyman [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Waaay OT: Gary L. [Bart van Damme ] [idealcopy] Swimnews and Ebay ["Magnetic North" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT UK TV OGWT Nobody in the UK seems to have mentioned the Whistle Test Years currently running late night on BBC2. It's not the same material as the recent anniversary shows. Last night they were up to 1977. Given that the OGWT was never particulary taken with punk/new wave I stayed up to see who they'd got on. We did get the Dictators, Otway and Barrett and The Tubes. Tonight we're promised The Jam and Talking Heads. There were some decent bands that played OGWT so I'm hoping they'll show some of them. I'm particularly hoping for the PiL footage to save me having to buy the bloody video. Cheers John _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 05:22:44 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: Fwd: Re: [idealcopy] just realized ... RLynn9@aol.com wrote: From: RLynn9@aol.com Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 17:48:00 EST Subject: Re: [idealcopy] just realized ... To: idealcopy@smoe.org In a message dated 4/4/03 4:17:15 PM Central Standard Time, dpbailey@worldnet.att.net writes: > definitely -- all long-time favorites of mine, with silent running a > particularly left-field entry on my list of top sf flicks ever. > > dan > when i was a kid i named my three fish Huey, Dewey, and Louie after Bruce Dern's robot helpers I bet you tell that to all the cartoons...... seriously though silent runner was a great movie for it's time,my faves are Blade runner and Dark City,for something REALLY bizare check out the city of lost children,a movie by Jean-Pierre Jeunet and Marc Caro....Ari RL Governments always take what was never given,and never give what was taken. Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 15:59:42 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT UK TV OGWT > Also the Rezillos and the Adverts tonight. The Old Grey "got" punk about > 1978, about the time ol' whispering bob got replaced by Anne Nightingale. 78 > shows also featured Television and Magazine, though I doubt they'll be able > to squeeze that in among the Chris Rea and Dire Straits, also promised > tonight Anyone else see it last night? Whispering Bob's intro rather amused me - he explained why OGWT were so late showing punk - it was an album programme remember and so they had to wait for the new wave acts to release one, and it was nothing to do with West Coast fan Bob not being able to stand the horrible nasty stuff. Obviously, it's my imagination that Never Mind the Bollocks, The Clash, Damned Damned Damned, Pink Flag etc were released the previous year! What tickled me last night was Bob saying something like 'and we'll be showing the Adverts and Siouxsie & the Banshees later, as well as (AND WATCH AS HE PERKS UP HERE!), some excellent footage of Dire Straits.' He may as well just have said, 'Sorry. This programme is about 1978 and my successor featured a right bag of shit, but stick with us and you'll get Sultans Of Swing.' And, of course, Randy Newman. (Am I the only person who dislikes the former critics fave Newman, or does he get on everyone elses tits as well?) > Careering is on the OGWT DVD. So there's a slim chance that Poptones will be > on the 79 show. Careering is the best performance by a band on TV that I've > ever seen. Even better than Joy Division on Something Else. BLOODY HELL. BIG STATEMENT ALERT!!! Haven't seen this in many years, but it'd be in my top 10 too - along with (off the top of my head), the aforementioned JD performance, Julians face solo to the Culture Bunker at the close of the OGWT Teardrops special in '82 and - admittedly this one is peculiar to me - Bolan performing Dandy in the Underworld live on kids TV a few months before he died. Oh yeah, can I just mention Bowie miming to Starman on TOTP, cos of the lad in the tank top dancing behind him. He truly was a hero just for one day... Keith NP Mazzy Star - she hangs brightly ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 16:24:27 +0100 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] buzzcocks & bunnyman > ON AIR SESSIONS > Steve Lamacq will have new Maida Vale session tracks from COLDPLAY on Saturday > Gideon Coe will have acoustic tracks from MELLAFONE on Wednesday and BRENDAN BENSON on Friday > Tom Robinson's Evening Sequence will have Maida Vale session tracks from HOPE OF THE STATES all week and THE BUZZCOCKS playing live from The Roundhouse on Tuesday. > http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/presenters/ There's also a track from the new LP on this months free Uncut cd. Pretty rough & ready. Didn't think it was that special after one play, but then (true to form) found myself singing it all afternoon! There's also a track from the new Ian McCulloch solo LP that provides more proof that Mac needs Will more than Will needs Mac. Keith NP The Raveonettes - whip it on ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 08:08:52 -0800 (PST) From: Fergus Kelly Subject: [idealcopy] OGWT Careering is on the OGWT DVD. So there's a slim chance that Poptones will be on the 79 show. Careering is the best performance by a band on TV that I've ever seen. Even better than Joy Division on Something Else. ///// Christ, what I wouldn't give to see that PiL footage again. Seems like aeons ago (yes but it was, I hear you say...) The OGWT selections have been mostly shite, but Ottway and Barrett certainly had great comedy value (I never saw them at the time). In particular the sight of the bearded bellbottomed mullets dashing out to restack the amps Barrett had jumped on, as though their lives depended on it. I laughed so much it hurt. Also hilarious was the sight of the mullets lifting Fee Waybil into position. They just looked so horrified, as though they were the ones who'd drawn the short straw ("I'm not lifting 'im !"... "well neither am I"... "someone's gotta !") Talking Heads did a great version of Psychokiller, givin' it lots o' wellie toward the end. Bloody hell, they looked so young. Tina Weymouth looked like a schoolkid. I couldn't reach for the mute button quick enough when Dire Shites came on though. For whatever reason the sight of the young Mark Knobflower was particularly irritating. It would be truly great to see Magazine again, but it's probably unlikely... Fergus Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 13:03:06 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] buzzcocks & bunnyman buzzcocks new lp got quite a negative review in yesterdays guardian for going back to their original sound rather than trying for something "modern". interesting to see if this ends up being compared to "send" when it finally gets reviewed. incidentally , 7 dealers on gemm advertising send already! p ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2003 21:28:21 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Waaay OT: Gary L. > Nobody in the UK seems to have mentioned the Whistle Test Years currently > running late night on BBC2. Er... I just passed BBC2 zapping... Was that Gary Lineker I saw with boobies??? Bart 8-/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 14:10:41 -0800 From: "Magnetic North" Subject: [idealcopy] Swimnews and Ebay Watched ebay and saw that the 7 Hafler Trio-Right here were you are sitting, it has a contribution from Graham Lewis, is available.(ltd to 333) Dear swim fans, It has no doubt not escaped your notice that swim has been a tad quiet lately, in fact our only release of last year was the (nevertheless fab) single by Rhodes (of whom more later). However things are set to change! The first new release of '03 will be the album"Trace Elements" by Akatombo (wm24). An expatriate Brit in Hiroshima Akatombo's Paul Kirk has fused a darkly urban hybrid of rhythm, noise and big soundtrack texture. The release date is set for late May but of course posteverything customers will be able to order as soon as stocks are available. The follow up will be another auspicious debut this one by Aurelie. "Desde Que Naci" (wm 25) is as peach perfect a candidate for "balm for the soul" as anything these ears have heard. In their own words "June 2003 sees aurelie emerge from their native Central England, and enrich the contemporary sonic landscape with sweeping sound and melodic minimalism that echo a time when there was everything to be experienced" The debut album from Toucaen is currently in the final stages of preparation as is a follow up 7" by Rhodes (who's April London shows are listed here) new work by Symptoms, Silo & Lobe are in various stages of readiness. A European tour is (lineup TBA) being considered for late Autumn. More news to follow. by the Swim HQ Fantastic of course. Jan - -------- Einstuerzende Neubauten (www.neubauten.org) ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V6 #98 ******************************