From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V6 #97 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Saturday, April 5 2003 Volume 06 : Number 097 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] Invisible jukebox pt 3 ["John Roberts" ] Re: [idealcopy] OT UK TV OGWT ["John Roberts" ] Re: [idealcopy] just realized ... [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] just realized ... ["dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Invisible jukebox pt 3 This is interesting. I've got a tape somewhere of demos and stuff recorded by ancient Manchester punk band The Hamsters. A couple of their tracks appear on the MES/Cog Sinister compilation The Disparate Cog Scienti. There's a track on the tape that sounds as if it's the same song. Didn't realise it was a cover. Don't know of any Black Widow but there was a Black Gorilla from Leicester. As far as I recall their only hit was a ditty called Gimmee Dat. As in Gimmee Gimmee Dat Banana. They appeared on Top of the Pops in gorilla costumes. Late 1970s. They're still plugging away as a cabaret band. Cheers John >From: Alistair Tear >To: "Wire (E-mail)" >Subject: [idealcopy] Invisible jukebox pt 3 >Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 09:27:19 +0100 > > >>Who are Black Widow? And do they sound like you'd expect a group called >Black >Widow to sound? > >Heard a little bit & it was yer average long haired guitar rock >of the time (c. 1970)...maybe got promoted to the 2nd division for one >season before heading back to the basement (to use a football >analogy)...the singer(?) was called Kip Trevor and went out with >a girlfriend of my then girlfriend...I think they came from Leicester >...Which sounds like a good title for a spoof sci-fi B movie > >later > >A >************************************************************************* >The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and >intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are >addressed. Transport for London Street Management hereby excludes any >warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of >this e-mail and any attached transmitted files. 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In 2002 they played in Middle East to I'd say about 250..300. Don't remember how much the tix were but certainly not more than $20. CD/T-shirt sales can't make that much difference. Are they getting a percentage of liquor sales as well? Syarzhuk Be healthy, stay wealthy... Visit Belarusan Music Source - http://www.belmusic.net _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 11:07:29 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] B G's Salsa remix > >> I believe this became known as 'post rock'? > > http://62.210.133.45/bahianese.htm<< > > ACR! > > Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 19:27:25 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] re:WIRE touring USA... Syarzhuk: > I don't get it. In Boston in 2000 they played in Roxy to an audience of > about 500. Tickets were $15, iirc. 15x500=$7500. In 2002 they played in > Middle East to I'd say about 250..300. Don't remember how much the tix were > but certainly not more than $20. CD/T-shirt sales can't make that much > difference. Are they getting a percentage of liquor sales as well? Still, it's better than the clichE of getting paid with liquor like I did a few times with my band (one time we even played for a meal). I suppose more of us have been there. ;-) Bart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 22:32:40 +0100 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] ARSE weep on oh suicidal boa OT Comedy album of the week award goes to ARE Weapons. You've got have some sort of respect for Rough Trade over the years bringing a wide range of quality music to us but what the feck do they think they're doing bringing this pile of absolute cock to my attention. Like a bad Carter The Un*toppable Sex Machine, an even worse Pop Will Eat Itself and let's bring some Jesus Jones into the occasion. This is absolute dross. I've never heard such baffoonery in my entire life. It sounds a bit like Andrew WK as well at times.... and that's a good thing.... I think not..... I cannot recomend this at all to anyone unless your planning to start a university course on how to make shit records. This reeks. Well they're really trying hard to flog this trendy crap here, aren't they. www.normanrecords.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 11:26:15 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [idealcopy] invisible jukebox pt 1 At 01:23 PM 4/3/2003 +0100, Keith Astbury wrote: >Billy's message reminded me that I sent this the other day, but it was rather >long and must have bounced back. So this is in installments (and Miles can >ignore the single one!). I was just catching up with personal mail this week (don't ask about work - aaaaauuuuugggghhh! as Charlie Brown would say), so I was about to resend the larger, bounced one. As Keith correctly deduced, it ran afoul of the 7000 character limit. Any other bounces should also appear shortly. Thanks to Keith for "serializing" this! later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 07:29:28 -0800 (PST) From: Fergus Kelly Subject: [idealcopy] C*ncel Your Ordure It's on the recording. Mistake/art/joke/conceptual obfuscation of the title? Perhaps Graham doesn't say "c*ncel" at all! ///// I always thought it sounded like play and pause were engaged and someone just lifted their hand off the pause... Fergus Shall we bake a cake for tea Or would you rather dancing be The cake might burn The baby cry No time for tea Before I die Ludus: Or would you rather dancing be - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 19:38:40 +0000 From: "John Roberts" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT UK TV OGWT Nobody in the UK seems to have mentioned the Whistle Test Years currently running late night on BBC2. It's not the same material as the recent anniversary shows. Last night they were up to 1977. Given that the OGWT was never particulary taken with punk/new wave I stayed up to see who they'd got on. We did get the Dictators, Otway and Barrett and The Tubes. Tonight we're promised The Jam and Talking Heads. There were some decent bands that played OGWT so I'm hoping they'll show some of them. I'm particularly hoping for the PiL footage to save me having to buy the bloody video. Cheers John _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 15:31:46 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT UK TV OGWT > >>Nobody in the UK seems to have mentioned the Whistle Test Years currently > running late night on BBC2. It's not the same material as the recent > anniversary shows. Last night they were up to 1977. Given that the OGWT > was never particulary taken with punk/new wave I stayed up to see who > they'd > got on. We did get the Dictators, Otway and Barrett and The Tubes. << Pretty dismal offering. Considering they went to CBGBs to film, you'd have thought they'd have found someone better than the Dictators playing pub-rock Stooges covers. Mind you, they'd clean up today, especially with those perms. > > >>we're promised The Jam and Talking Heads. There were some decent bands > that played OGWT so I'm hoping they'll show some of them.<< Also the Rezillos and the Adverts tonight. The Old Grey "got" punk about 1978, about the time ol' whispering bob got replaced by Anne Nightingale. 78 shows also featured Television and Magazine, though I doubt they'll be able to squeeze that in among the Chris Rea and Dire Straits, also promised tonight :-( >> I'm particularly > hoping for the PiL footage to save me having to buy the > bloody video.<< Careering is on the OGWT DVD. So there's a slim chance that Poptones will be on the 79 show. Careering is the best performance by a band on TV that I've ever seen. Even better than Joy Division on Something Else. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 15:05:28 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: [idealcopy] just realized ... upon starting to tape the old truffaut movie fahrenheit 451 just now (haven't seen it since the '70s, but found it effectively evocative of alienation at the time -- no doubt a worthy companion in that respect to penelope spheeris' suburbia, which i just watched on dvd), that 451 is 154 backwards. no doubt that's been mentioned before ... of course, the lp was originally going to be called "tiehnerhaf." dan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 16:18:52 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] just realized ... In a message dated 4/4/03 3:06:10 PM Central Standard Time, dpbailey@worldnet.att.net writes: << upon starting to tape the old truffaut movie fahrenheit 451 just now (haven't seen it since the '70s, but found it effectively evocative of alienation at the time - >> ahh...Dan must be watching AMC .....i would have set my timer to tape it but i was already taping Thunderbirds.....besides, i think i have a copy somewhere.... great film.... for more great alienation flicks, check out THX-1138, Silent Running, and the original Invasion of the Body Snatchers ...but i'm sure you already knew that.... Robert ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 16:04:37 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] just realized ... >In a message dated 4/4/03 3:06:10 PM Central Standard Time, >dpbailey@worldnet.att.net writes: > ><< upon starting to tape the old truffaut movie fahrenheit 451 just now > (haven't seen it since the '70s, but found it effectively evocative of > alienation at the time - >> > > >ahh...Dan must be watching AMC .....i would have set my timer to tape it but >i was already taping Thunderbirds.....besides, i think i have a copy >somewhere.... >great film.... > >for more great alienation flicks, check out THX-1138, Silent Running, and the >original Invasion of the Body Snatchers ...but i'm sure you already knew >that.... > >Robert definitely -- all long-time favorites of mine, with silent running a particularly left-field entry on my list of top sf flicks ever. dan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 17:48:00 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] just realized ... In a message dated 4/4/03 4:17:15 PM Central Standard Time, dpbailey@worldnet.att.net writes: > definitely -- all long-time favorites of mine, with silent running a > particularly left-field entry on my list of top sf flicks ever. > > dan > when i was a kid i named my three fish Huey, Dewey, and Louie after Bruce Dern's robot helpers (who ultimately met their demise) RL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 19:16:15 -0800 From: "Paul Pietromonaco" Subject: [idealcopy] Okay - I have my entry ready!! Hi everyone, Well - I have my photo ready for the "Find A Pink Flag In Your Neighborhood" contest. http://www.weasel-bot.com/pink_flag/pink_flag_seattle.jpg Please let me know if I've won! (^_^) Cheers, Paul P.S. Seriously, though - I saw this photo opportunity from one of our balconies at work. Ran home to get my digital camera, took the picture, and just had to share it with you. ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V6 #97 ******************************