From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V6 #92 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Monday, March 31 2003 Volume 06 : Number 092 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [idealcopy] Wire reference in... ["Keith Knight" ] Re: [idealcopy] Wire reference in... [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] just per-ordered mine [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Wire reference in... ["dan bailey" ] [idealcopy] Wire in SanFran ["Paul Ye" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 11:07:38 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Wire reference in... Anyone else having difficulty locating the Send track on that link. I scrolled down about 10 shows last night, but couldn't find a single mention of Wire. Really looking forward to hearing it. Andrew paints it out all doom and gloom, AT Keith describes it as 'camp'. Any further views, cos I'm not sure whether to get my long mac back out or search for my feather boa ; ) Keith - ---------- It's now 17 shows down - Vuile Toon dinsdag 25 maa uur 1 - about 30 minutes in as previously advertised. Another the Keith - still recovering from last night's highly entertaining Subway Sect gig at the luxurious Bedford Esquires in the company of a select IC massive, messrs Roberts, Lumbard & Bursa. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 05:43:17 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire reference in... In a message dated 3/30/03 11:08:44 AM GMT Daylight Time, steeleknight@lineone.net writes: > Another the Keith - still recovering from last night's highly > entertaining Subway Sect gig at the luxurious Bedford Esquires in the > company of a select IC massive, messrs Roberts, Lumbard & Bursa. ////so how was it? i plan to see vic in a couple of months time , he's somebody i keep missing over the years and still havn't seen. new lp got rave reviews but i didn't think the single was all that special. p ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 12:22:22 +0100 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Wire reference in... A small venue, gone to seed (if it was ever flowering). A small stage, at least for the seven members of Subway Sect. I'd not heard any of the album but according to Mark (who had only heard the single) it encompasses trip-hop and banghra beats. Not too much evidence of that here. A chat in the pub with Andrew and Mark revealed that none of us had seen him before (though maybe John had?) which is perhaps an indication of how rarely he plays, or the fact that he plays places like this with virtually no publicity. He dresses a long way from the tuxedo days now - - a well-worn shapeless coat which he keeps on all night and heavy glasses which obscure still fine bone-structure. The band are mainly men of a certain age and hairloss who clearly have a fondness for him (or why turn up in front of 150 people). The music, as Andrew observed at one point, veers close to shambolic in places but is played with zest and is a highly entertaining set - a few people even strode on to the dance floor for a kind of bossa nova number at one point. Our favourite member of the band was the Vic Mini-me (his son? I speculated without an inch of proof) who wears similar glasses and stands behind Vic dancing bizarrely with a tambourine and a violin (although not simultaneously). As for Vic he still sings like no-one else and seems permanently distracted. He clearly has problems remembering lyrics because he first referred to the CD sleeve ("this is the new album - it sounds nothing like this") and later brought on a large A4 pad of lyrics which he referred to for a prompt before the start of most songs, but then - because he needed to block the music entering his left ear -held up to his face. The keyboard player tried to point out to him that half the audience couldn't see him but he was clearly oblivious. After four songs he warmed the audience up by saying the band had had a look around Bedford earlier and hadn't been very impressed by it. All in all a very enjoyable evening. The music is entertaining and the band and Vic are out and out funny. Mark only recognized one or two old songs and no Ambition sadly. A song called Handjobs stands out in the memory. I found myself thinking how punk allowed people like Vic Godard (and Devoto, Mark E Smith, Wreckless Eric Mark Perry etc) to be recognized, even in a fringe way, by almost a mass audience (who obviously weren't there last night but Andrew said he had heard Ambition on Radio 2 more than once) and how we lost that soon after - but the talent still burns in them. Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com [mailto:PaulRabjohn@aol.com] Sent: 30 March 2003 11:43 To: steeleknight@lineone.net; keith.astbury10@virgin.net; idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire reference in... In a message dated 3/30/03 11:08:44 AM GMT Daylight Time, steeleknight@lineone.net writes: Another the Keith - still recovering from last night's highly entertaining Subway Sect gig at the luxurious Bedford Esquires in the company of a select IC massive, messrs Roberts, Lumbard & Bursa. ////so how was it? i plan to see vic in a couple of months time , he's somebody i keep missing over the years and still havn't seen. new lp got rave reviews but i didn't think the single was all that special. p ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 14:19:34 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire reference/VPRO Keith: > Anyone else having difficulty locating the Send track on that link. I > scrolled down about 10 shows last night, but couldn't find a single mention > of Wire. For any of you not too familiar with the dutch language, Vuile Toon means Dirty Tune, but also refers to the french feuilleton (see below) Wire - Mr Marx's table (cd: Send; Pinkflag; release 28-04-03) http://pages.vpro.nl/3voor12/shows/index.shtml?2534202+2535286+170872+108366 02 There's also a search-option above. > I'm not sure whether to get my long mac back out > or search for my feather boa ; ) (Coincidence Robert?) Just underneath Wire there's a mention of Phillip Boa & The Voodoo Club. Michael, I could not find You Can't Leave Now. Where did you find it? Here are some early-day Wire fans at their Crossing Border concert last year: http://pages.vpro.nl/3voor12/journalism/index.shtml?2534202+3122274+11026525 +9324670 Among them David Thomas: 3Wire is a great band because they have great songs.2 On the right you can click for Wire's In The Art Of Stopping Live at Crossing Border 2002 Video or for the rest of the concert: http://pages.vpro.nl/3voor12/concerts/concert.shtml?2534202+3122274+11026525 +9324734+9324524 *) feuil7le7ton [ fz i t`wn, fvy tN ] (plural feuil7le7tons) noun 1. part of European newspaper: a section of a European newspaper containing reviews, serial fiction, and articles of general interest 2. something in feuilleton: an article, review, or other piece published in a feuilleton [Mid-19th century. Via French feuillet , literally little leaf from, ultimately, Latin folium (see folio).] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 14:58:00 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire reference/VPRO/Appendix Sorry, the word "among" was attached to url so here it is again: Here are some early-day Wire fans at their Crossing Border concert last year: http://pages.vpro.nl/3voor12/journalism/index.shtml?2534202+3122274+11026525 +9324670 Among them David Thomas: 3Wire is a great band because they have great songs.2 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 15:19:00 +0200 From: Bart van Damme Subject: [idealcopy] just per-ordered mine http://www.posteverything.com/artists/release.php?id=3102 Isn't the sleeve just excellent! Anyone know who did it? http://www.posteverything.com/news/article.php?id=2942 Wish I could make it to the Barbican April 26th. I love the Chapman bross' work and from what I hear/see at Es Devlin's site her work looks very promising. Bit Chairs Missing sleeve-like. http://www.esdevlin.com Bart ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 09:45:06 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire reference in... In a message dated 3/30/03 3:14:52 AM Central Standard Time, keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: > Really looking forward to hearing it. Andrew paints it out all doom and > gloom, AT Keith describes it as 'camp'. Any further views, cos I'm not sure > whether to get my long mac back out or search for my feather boa ; ) > > Keith > just throw on your leather trousers.....great for all occasions... ; ) RL np - Manitoba "Start Breaking My Heart" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 10:31:35 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] just per-ordered mine >>I> sn't the sleeve just excellent! Anyone know who did it?<< > > Sven ;-) > > Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 10:25:05 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire reference in... >Another the Keith - still recovering from last night's highly >entertaining Subway Sect gig at the luxurious Bedford Esquires in the >company of a select IC massive, messrs Roberts, Lumbard & Bursa. are you saying they could stand to lose a few lbs? dan, who certainly could, esp after coming across a photo from grad school that made him look like he was trying out for adrien brody's role in the pianist ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 10:27:25 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire reference in... brief but favorable -- will jot down the words next time i see the copy. it was a brief mention in a column of capsule reviews on "fringe music" or something of the sort, as opposed to a full review proper with star-ratings & such (like the one of the new white stripes album, which got 5 stars out of 5 -- something that rather worries me, given my lack on respect for the mag's acumen). dan >From: dan bailey >> at the same store last night i saw a brief review of send in rolling >stone, > >What did they have to say, Dan? Good or bad? > >Anyone else having difficulty locating the Send track on that link. I >scrolled down about 10 shows last night, but couldn't find a single mention >of Wire. > >Really looking forward to hearing it. Andrew paints it out all doom and >gloom, AT Keith describes it as 'camp'. Any further views, cos I'm not sure >whether to get my long mac back out or search for my feather boa ; ) > >Keith ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 19:35:15 +0100 From: "Andrew Lumbard" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Wire reference in... >> >Another the Keith - still recovering from last night's highly >> >entertaining Subway Sect gig at the luxurious Bedford Esquires in the >> >company of a select IC massive, messrs Roberts, Lumbard & Bursa. >> >> are you saying they could stand to lose a few lbs? >> >> dan, who certainly could, esp after coming across a photo from >> grad school >> that made him look like he was trying out for adrien brody's role in the >> pianist Well there may be some who may agree, but personally I think I have the silth-like body of a racing snake. AndyL ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 19:24:07 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: [idealcopy] hot hot heatlanta anyone in the atlanta vicinity planning on attending the hot hot heat show mon night at the cotton club? i'm leaning toward making the trek -- might as well make hay while i'm not encumbered by a job, & after all their album is one of my favorites of last year. a week later, i see, the subhumans are supposed to be playing the same venue ... damned shame i can't still fit (without bursting the seams, at any rate) into my old army jacket with the huge circle a on back surrounded by dozens & dozens of anarcho band names. dan np: the cripples -- dirty head (further evidence that the screamers have supplanted bad company as the most influential band in the american northwest) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 21:48:48 -0700 From: "Paul Ye" Subject: [idealcopy] Wire in SanFran Santa Cruzer wrote "Anyway, I do plan to head up to SF for the GAMH show, so if any Ideal Copyists plan on being there, maybe we can meet for a round or three before the show!" Hey Rick, my buddy Rick and I are planning to head out west from Salt Lake City to catch this one. I would definately like to meet some of the other listees. As soon as tickets are on sale I should be able to confirm for sure. Keep in touch! Paulye154 _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V6 #92 ******************************