From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V6 #90 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Saturday, March 29 2003 Volume 06 : Number 090 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [idealcopy] Scanner / Amsterdam [Alistair Tear ] Re: [idealcopy] The worm in the (empty) bottle [RLynn9@aol.com] [idealcopy] NY & Denmark ["Keith Astbury" ] Re: [idealcopy] On Returning [Bart van Damme ] Re: [idealcopy] NY & Denmark [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] NY & Denmark ["Keith Astbury" ] Re: [idealcopy] OT: prag vec [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] OT: prag vec ["dan bailey" ] Re: [idealcopy] waaaay OT: sf movie? ["dan bailey" ] Re: [idealcopy] re: Da Prinz/Falltitles OT ["dan bailey" ] RE: [idealcopy] OT: prag vec ["Keith Knight" ] [idealcopy] OT but funny as hell [Ari Britt ] [idealcopy] Wire synchronicity [Fergus Kelly ] Re: [idealcopy] NY & Denmark ["Keith Astbury" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Scanner / Amsterdam Definately... and Paris (of Eurostar fame) A np - trilemma push what is collapsing > > Any UK listers considering Wire in Amsterdam (of low-cost > airline fame)? > > Ian B ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Transport for London Street Management hereby excludes any warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of this e-mail and any attached transmitted files. 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Michael Flaherty Now Robert, you've no excuse, you've gotta see them this time ! :) As Michael says, it's a small club, so get there early, I'd say it'd be rammed. Fergus :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 02:32:52 -0800 (PST) From: Fergus Kelly Subject: [idealcopy] On Returning WELCOME BACK BART !! So good to have you amongst us again... I'd been meaning to mail you off list to see where you'd got to... Fergus ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 08:05:35 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] The worm in the (empty) bottle In a message dated 3/28/03 4:28:35 AM Central Standard Time, lockupyourhats@yahoo.com writes: > >June - 25th The Empty Bottle - Chicago > >June - 26th The Empty Bottle - Chicago > > Wow. OK, for those who don't know, this will be very different than > The > Metro. > Wire in a smallish club ... new one for me. > > Michael Flaherty > > Now Robert, you've no excuse, you've gotta see them this time ! :) As > Michael says, it's a small club, so get there early, I'd say it'd be > rammed. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no excuses this time! as a matter of fact i will indulge in both nights....i have to check if tickets are on sale yet....i already have a place to stay ...i'm all set for the heaven sent extinction event... RL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 14:30:04 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] NY & Denmark Jan said... >Also heard a track by A.R.E.Weapons called A.R.E.. I did like that. Does someone of you know them. Don't think anyone has replied to this. I like them too. The first single (as far as I know) Street Gang (2001) was pretty good. Very Suicide-influenced - albeit a rougher, more hooligan Suicide. And of course the vocals can't match Vega's Elvis style crooning. But a good single all the same. I was less keen on the more rap influenced follow-up New York Muscle though. Don't think they've released an album as yet, but I wouldn't swear on it. One record I'm loving at the moment is Whip It On by The Raveonettes. Now I'm not saying it's a classic, but if you wanna listen to something fun and throwaway, then this could be for you. Eight songs that sound pretty much the same - imagine the JAMC with a girl singer - and more hooks than a Peter Pan convention. I can't help thinking that if they were from NY and not Denmark then the critics would be wetting themselves. Love it... Keith NP Death in Vegas - Scorpio Rising single (The Scientist remix - Liam Gallagher on a reggae track! hahaha!!!) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 17:17:04 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] On Returning >> ? Any gossip or good music I missed? > ...and a fairly lame "I suffered for Wire" thread (me and Keith; neither of > us suffered that much. Hillman Imps involved). > Mark Wich of the Keiths? Hillman Who? Bart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 11:43:02 -0500 From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] NY & Denmark In a message dated 3/28/2003 9:30:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: > NP Death in Vegas - Scorpio Rising single (The Scientist > remix - Liam > Gallagher on a reggae track! hahaha!!!) ////not heard this but do love the "scorpio rising" lp. i think DIV do the "old punks make dance music with guitars" thing as well as anyone. talking of which (vaguely) did anyone see fc kahuna on that crappy sara cox show? (i've already forgotten the name of it , i need to save my brain space for worthwhile data)they did a really good guitar-based track , i've tried a few downloads and all the FCK stuff i can find is horrible trance stuff that sounds nothing like this. any thoughts? agreed the MZUI cd is very nice. colour photos! you spoil us. p ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 16:45:28 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] NY & Denmark > > One record I'm loving at the moment is Whip It On by The Raveonettes... > > I can't help thinking that if they were from NY and not Denmark then the > > critics would be wetting themselves. Love it... > > The critics *are* wetting themselves already Well it got decent reviews over here, but having heard it I think it deserved better. Which leads me back to the point I was trying to make. I just can't help believing (thank you Elvis) that there's been a spot of snobbery on the critics part. I'm convinced the Raveonettes would have had far more press interest if they weren't Danish. Keith ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 12:06:53 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] On Returning > >>Wich of the Keiths? << Another the >> Hillman Who?<< Hillman Imp. A a small but perfectly formed British car of the 1960s. It was a rival to the mini. Rear engined - a bit like an NSU Prinz or a Simca 1000. Or for our American chums, like a really, really small Chevrolet Corvair. Cheap, fun, rusty. Everything you needed in a car. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 18:18:20 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] On Returning "The New Imp" > Hillman Imp. A a small but perfectly formed British car of the 1960s. It was > a rival to the mini. Rear engined - a bit like an NSU Prinz or a Simca 1000. > Or for our American chums, like a really, really small Chevrolet Corvair. > Cheap, fun, rusty. Everything you needed in a car. http://www.imps4ever.info/algemeen/history.html Hmmm, sounds/looks a lot like our late DAF then... What are the chances of it being revived like the Mini? "The New Imp" (cool name for a band). Bart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 17:25:18 +0000 From: "John Roberts" Subject: [idealcopy] OT: UK listers gigs this weekend Hi Any UK listers going to either of these old timers' gigs this weekend: Zounds in Derby tonight; Subway Sect in Bedford tomorrow? If anyone is I'll be the speccy one handing out flyers for Subway Sect and Zounds gigs in Leicester. Cheers John _________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 12:28:10 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: UK listers gigs this weekend > >>Subway Sect in Bedford tomorrow? << > > Could be tempted... where is it? > > Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 12:30:22 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] On Returning "The New Imp" > >>Hmmm, sounds/looks a lot like our late DAF then... What are the chances of > it being revived like the Mini? "The New Imp" (cool name for a band).<< > > Though with the engine in the back and a proper gearbox, ratherthan a > rubber band. > > DAF. Good name for a band too ;-) > > Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 12:34:02 -0500 From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] On Returning "The New Imp" In a message dated 3/28/2003 12:18:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, bartvandamme@home.nl writes: > "The New Imp" (cool name for a band). ....but i guess DAF is better. i have visions of those 2 really serious (and not at all camp) guys driving thru holland on tour in a daf 33 with variomatic transmission straining. no doubt recollecting jolly japes supporting wire at the electric ballroom. p ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 12:11:10 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] The worm in the (empty) bottle just out of curosity, how small is "small"? not that i'm jaded or anything (at least in this particular context), but the metro didn't strike me as completely cavernous. of course, the nashville venue (the end) where i saw the epoxies last night was about the size of my far-from-capacious house .... hard to believe that (if the "wall of fame" is to be believed) the likes of pere ubu, dream syndicate & *ulp* the black crowes ever played there -- not, presumably, on the same bill. dan, still pleased that last night's typical-girls-ish local opener, a trio called the dutchies, played the clean's anything can happen >Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 09:19:09 -0600 >From: Michael Flaherty >Subject: [idealcopy] Re: Wire at The Bottle > >>June - 25th The Empty Bottle - Chicago >>June - 26th The Empty Bottle - Chicago > >Wow. OK, for those who don't know, this will be very different than >The >Metro. >Wire in a smallish club ... new one for me. > >Michael Flaherty > >Now Robert, you've no excuse, you've gotta see them this time ! :) As Michael says, it's a small club, so get there early, I'd say it'd be rammed. > >Fergus > >::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: >Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 12:13:58 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] On Returning "The New Imp" >> Hillman Imp. A a small but perfectly formed British car of the 1960s. It was >> a rival to the mini. Rear engined - a bit like an NSU Prinz as in the fall's big new prinz (if i'm remembering the title correctly)? must hie myself to the lyrics parade site ... dan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 12:29:01 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: [idealcopy] OT: prag vec on the off chance anyone was dying for it (i quite like the first 7" myself ... haven't heard the 12", but have been told it's a step down from the first 2 releases, & was unaware of a 4th release, apparently an album) -- > As for Prag Vec, they're finished > up a licensing deal with Mute Records UK right now to put out their EP's, > single and album (hopefully by year's end). dan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 13:53:45 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: prag vec In a message dated 3/28/03 6:28:46 PM GMT Standard Time, dpbailey@worldnet.att.net writes: > on the off chance anyone was dying for it (i quite like the first 7" myself > ... haven't heard the 12", but have been told it's a step down from the > first 2 releases, & was unaware of a 4th release, apparently an album) -- /////i think the 12" is just the 2 7"'s compiled together. the album is a weird release , doesn't actually mention prag vec on the sleeve (nice commercial touch , guys) and must have confused punters no end. a collection of every last demo and studio session , not really a patch on the singles. though a superb live take of "cigarettes" to round it off is maybe worth the entrance fee. p ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 13:00:09 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: prag vec cigarettes being my fave track of theirs, i guess i'll start salivating ... dan >In a message dated 3/28/03 6:28:46 PM GMT Standard Time, >dpbailey@worldnet.att.net writes: > > >> on the off chance anyone was dying for it (i quite like the first 7" myself >> ... haven't heard the 12", but have been told it's a step down from the >> first 2 releases, & was unaware of a 4th release, apparently an album) -- > >/////i think the 12" is just the 2 7"'s compiled together. the album is a >weird release , doesn't actually mention prag vec on the sleeve (nice >commercial touch , guys) and must have confused punters no end. a collection >of every last demo and studio session , not really a patch on the singles. >though a superb live take of "cigarettes" to round it off is maybe worth the >entrance fee. p ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 13:07:31 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] waaaay OT: sf movie? ah -- another entry for my ever-burgeoning want list. sounds vaguely (p?)reminiscent of gene brewer's kpax (made into a rather decent movie with kevin spacey a couple of years ago), whose 2 sequels i have yet to pick up ... itself strongly reminiscent of a rather grimmer 1986 argentine movie, hombre mirando al sudeste (over here, man facing southeast). dan >Just thought of another good one - Christopher Evans' 'The Insider'. A >story of an alien taking over a body killed in the blitz and then living >in the body for decades to the point when it no longer knows what it was >like to be alien. What's impressive is that there's always some doubt >that the alien is an alien as it could be interpreted as a story of a >man who's lost his marbles. Really well written- more a story of >alienation than a horror book. > >Another the Keith > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On >Behalf Of dan bailey >Sent: 27 March 2003 21:12 >To: ideal copy >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] waaaay OT: sf movie? > >yep -- truly excellent. as it happens, i think i came across a copy >while >poring through the stacks at a local used bookstore last week, though i >believe i still have mine (also picked up used) from the early '90s. > >another solid one (if memory serves) that i haven't seen a copy of since >reading it going on 30 (*sigh*) years ago is john christopher's the >possessors. > >dan, probably warped by reading roger tralins' the cozmozoids while >balanced >on the precipice of puberty ... > > > > >> >>If you're also into alien-possession books I heartily recommend Stephen >>Gallagher's 'Valley of Lights', although it's probably a little >>difficult to track down now, especially in the US (not even sure it got >>a release over there). Chilling, intelligent and commendably short. >> >>Another the Keith (now nearly half-way through Michel Faber's 'Crimson >>Petal and the White' and thoroughly enjoying it even while I wonder >>which year I'll finish it in) >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On >>Behalf Of dan bailey >>Sent: 27 March 2003 00:23 >>To: ideal copy >>Subject: Re: [idealcopy] waaaay OT: sf movie? >> >>looks like that's probably it, paul -- infinite thanks. i'd done a >>variety >>of imdb searches, but kept typing in "alien" or "aliens." of course, >>according to certain schools of thought in ufology (john a keel, come >on >>down), there's no real difference between angels or aliens. >> >>now all i have to do is dig up tapes or dvds of the original 1984, >>equinox, >>the ghoul, five, the devil commands, the original not of this earth, >>island >>of the dead, ghost ship, salt of the earth, the black cat, night tide, >>grave >>of the vampire, ad nearly infinitum ... >> >>dan >> >> >>>>How about Fallen? >>>> >>>>http://us.imdb.com/Title?0119099 >>>> >>>>That was in 1998, and it was a fallen angel, instead of an alien, but >>>>it's the same idea. I'll look around a little more and see if >>>>anything else seems reasonable. >>>> >>> >>>Hey - IMDB has a plot search. How about this one? >>> >>>http://us.imdb.com/Title?0101502 >>> >>>The Borrower, from 1991. Looks pretty bad. (^_^) >>> >>>Cheers, >>>Paul ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 19:07:25 -0000 From: "Antony Jordan" Subject: [idealcopy] OT: prag vec I have every Prag Vec track available on Soulseek (www.slsk.org). - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of dan bailey Sent: 28 March 2003 19:00 To: ideal copy Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: prag vec cigarettes being my fave track of theirs, i guess i'll start salivating ... dan >In a message dated 3/28/03 6:28:46 PM GMT Standard Time, >dpbailey@worldnet.att.net writes: > > >> on the off chance anyone was dying for it (i quite like the first 7" myself >> ... haven't heard the 12", but have been told it's a step down from >> the first 2 releases, & was unaware of a 4th release, apparently an >> album) -- > >/////i think the 12" is just the 2 7"'s compiled together. the album is >a weird release , doesn't actually mention prag vec on the sleeve (nice >commercial touch , guys) and must have confused punters no end. a collection >of every last demo and studio session , not really a patch on the >singles. though a superb live take of "cigarettes" to round it off is >maybe worth the >entrance fee. p ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 20:12:39 +0100 From: "Jens" Subject: [idealcopy] re: Da Prinz/Falltitles OT New Big Prinz it is...hehe. wich reminds me, a friend gave me the tracklist for The Fall's coming album. who could resist a title like "Last Commands Of XYRALOTHEP Via M.E.S."? Here it goes: 1. Theme From Sparta F.C. 2. Protien Protection 3. Mountain Energei 4. Contraflow 5. Green-Eyed Loco Man 6. Last Commands Of XYRALOTHEP Via M.E.S. 7. Boxoctosis 8. Ho(e)uston 9. The Past 10. Recovery Kit 11. Mike's Love Xexagon 12. Susan Vs. Youth Club - Jens - ----- Ursprungligt meddelande ----- Fren: dan bailey Till: ideal copy Skickat: den 28 mars 2003 19:13 Dmne: Re: [idealcopy] On Returning "The New Imp" > >> Hillman Imp. A a small but perfectly formed British car of the 1960s. It > was > >> a rival to the mini. Rear engined - a bit like an NSU Prinz > > as in the fall's big new prinz (if i'm remembering the title correctly)? > must hie myself to the lyrics parade site ... > > dan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 13:22:58 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] re: Da Prinz/Falltitles OT >wich reminds me, a friend gave me the tracklist for The Fall's coming album. who could resist a title like "Last Commands Of XYRALOTHEP Via M.E.S."? hmm ... a variation on nyarlothotep? i know mes is a big lovecraft fan (vid the horror in clay). dan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 14:33:38 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: prag vec what does Prag Vec sound like...i hadn't heard of them til now... RL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 20:35:58 +0100 From: "Jens" Subject: SV: [idealcopy] re: Da Prinz/Falltitles OT > >wich reminds me, a friend gave me the tracklist for The Fall's coming > album. who could resist a title like "Last Commands Of XYRALOTHEP Via > M.E.S."? > > > hmm ... a variation on nyarlothotep? i know mes is a big lovecraft fan (vid > the horror in clay). > > dan > mt does sound extremely lovecraftian. that's for sure... Jens ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 19:48:25 -0000 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] OT: prag vec Marvellous! I love Cigarettes too. As I may have said previously I used to hang around in the early 80s with prag vec's bassist Dave Boyd (we were in the same housing co-op and he went to school with my mate Adrian who knocked around with Wire early on blah, blah). But I never saw them live as they'd split by the time I met Dave. Another the Keith - -----Original Message----- From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of dan bailey Sent: 28 March 2003 19:00 To: ideal copy Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: prag vec cigarettes being my fave track of theirs, i guess i'll start salivating ... dan >In a message dated 3/28/03 6:28:46 PM GMT Standard Time, >dpbailey@worldnet.att.net writes: > > >> on the off chance anyone was dying for it (i quite like the first 7" myself >> ... haven't heard the 12", but have been told it's a step down from the >> first 2 releases, & was unaware of a 4th release, apparently an album) -- > >/////i think the 12" is just the 2 7"'s compiled together. the album is a >weird release , doesn't actually mention prag vec on the sleeve (nice >commercial touch , guys) and must have confused punters no end. a collection >of every last demo and studio session , not really a patch on the singles. >though a superb live take of "cigarettes" to round it off is maybe worth the >entrance fee. p ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 13:09:31 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] OT but funny as hell PERFECT COMMUNICATION THROUGH TECHNOLOGY, SERVICE, AND EDUCATION The European Commission on the European Unification (EU) just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the EU rather than German, which was the other possibility. As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty's government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a five-year phase-in plan that would be known as "EuroEnglish." In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c." Sertainly, this will make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in favor of the "k.' This should klear up konfusion and keyboards kan have less letters. There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced with the "f." This will make words like "fotograf" 20% shorter. In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkourage the removal of double letters, which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of the silent "e"'s in the language is disgrasful, and they should go away. By the 4th year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" with "z" and 'w" with "v." During ze fif year, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou' and similar changes vud of kors he aplid to ozer kombinazuns of leters. After ze fifz yer, ve vil hav a veri sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubls or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu unerstan ech ozer. ~ Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 14:00:20 -0800 (PST) From: Fergus Kelly Subject: [idealcopy] Wire synchronicity and at THE exact moment that i read that passage i am jolted by the sounds of DUH NAH NAH NAH..DUH NAH NAH NAH...and i am stunned to hear Walter Murphy's disco/pop hit "A Fifth of Beethoven"..... weird.....i was fairly freaked out at the coincidence... anybody else have any similar stories? Robert Here's one for you Robert: (though it's not got quite the temporal precision of your experience) Whilst in London some years back I had been talking to someone about Bruce's Haring CD, amongst other things. On the way back into town on the tube, when I stopped in Charing Cross, the doors opened to reveal the station name, but the first letter was obscured, so the name read... haring cross... And there, quite unwittingly, within that story is a Wir album title... no gettin' away from it eh? The telling of a Wire synchronicity generated another connection... Fergus :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 22:22:22 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] NY & Denmark > > NP Death in Vegas - Scorpio Rising single (The Scientist > > remix - Liam Gallagher on a reggae track! hahaha!!!) > > ////not heard this but do love the "scorpio rising" lp. i think DIV do the "old punks make dance music with guitars" thing as well as anyone. The Contino Sessions is even better IMO. And not just better, but MUCH better. One of my fave LP's of the past 5 yrs in fact. Keith ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 17:26:05 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: prag vec In a message dated 3/28/03 7:48:57 PM GMT Standard Time, steeleknight@lineone.net writes: > . As I may have said previously I > used to hang around in the early 80s with prag vec's bassist Dave Boyd > (we were in the same housing co-op and he went to school with my mate > Adrian who knocked around with Wire early on blah, blah). But I never > saw them live as they'd split by the time I met Dave. > //////but who did? those early RT bands probably hardly played ouside london , all i ever got to see in my provincial town in the late 70's was "corporate tours" of bands on big labels so sadly i missed all the arty stuff like PV , GO4 , scrittis , subway sect etc. er , and wire of course (well they were on EMI but never got too close to my bit of the Home Counties). so what did PV sound like........the 2 singles were sort of angular , quirky post-punk with a moog-playing girl singer (sister of the passions singer , but a hugely better band). bit like early altered images maybe? the band who supported wire in edinburgh 2000 (life without buildings) were along the same lines , wonder what happened to them? the "expert" 7" is probably the best starting point. p ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 18:08:00 EST From: Rain19c@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Hear New Wire Track from Send Surprised no one is talking about this....Although I did see one post about it... You can hear "You Can't Leave now" at the Vuile Toon internet radio show, which is at : http://pages.vpro.nl/3voor12/shows/shows.shtml?2534202 You have to scroll down about 10 shows. And then click on "Uur1" to listen in. Wire is like a half hour in. They played the Send version of "Mr. Marx's Table" a while back. It sounded very true to the live version from recent tours. It's a very different track from the R&Bs - slow, ominous, and morbid sounding - reminds me a bit of Indirect Enquiries, but this is new territory for Wire. ~Michael ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 00:12:40 +0000 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Hear New Wire Track from Send On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 06:08:00PM -0500, Rain19c@aol.com wrote: > Surprised no one is talking about this....Although I did see one post about > it... Talk about an attention grabbing title. I'm listening now... > It's a very different track from the R&Bs - slow, ominous, and morbid > sounding - reminds me a bit of Indirect Enquiries, but this is new territory > for Wire. Sounds almost industrial, with the clattering percussion (how much of that is Real artifacts is up for question); the change in vocal style for the chorus is certainly interesting (refreshing, even) I like it, particularly the chattery, metallic, delayed/gapped rhythm guitar. Very, um, and there's no other way of describing it... *heavy*; not in the cliched classic metal or rap-metal ways (most of which frankly aren't at all heavy), but more in the sense of ominousness, implied emotional trauma. Dark music for dark times... - - Andrew - -- email: andrew@lexical.org.uk http://www.lexical.org.uk/ Earth Sciences, University of Cambridge http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ CUR1350, 1350 MW Cambridgeshire and online http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 13:39:02 +1100 From: "Phillip Blakeney" Subject: [idealcopy] Weird coincidences (OT) ROBERT Said: "weird.....i was fairly freaked out at the coincidence...anybody else have any similar stories?" I was driving up a steep hill a while back and the windows started 'steaming up' at PRECISLEY the same time as Tina Turner's song 'Steamy Windows' came on the radio. This is a song I had not heard before and have never heard since on the radio. The condensation on the window disappeared as soon as the song finished. Phillip from Australia - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN Instant Messenger now available on Australian mobile phones. 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