From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V6 #80 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Wednesday, March 19 2003 Volume 06 : Number 080 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Re: wire magazine [HowardJSpencer@aol.com] [idealcopy] Robert wrote.......... [Ari Britt ] Re: [idealcopy] Music to Drop Bombs By [MarkBursa@aol.com] [idealcopy] (OT)Fwd: [Ex-RentalNews] Another mp3 exclusive for you... [=?] [idealcopy] Re: Music to Drop Bombs By ["Syarzhuk Kazachenka" ] [idealcopy] A Case ["Bill Hick" ] Re: [idealcopy] Rancid Battery Acid Fuel (Never Workin' for Clampdown) ["] [idealcopy] Bee Rite at Home ["Bill Hick" ] [idealcopy] Off Pulsating Charnel ["Bill Hick" ] [idealcopy] Bad Business Plan? ["Bill Hick" ] [idealcopy] Words of Colin & Robots ["Bill Hick" ] Re: [idealcopy] Re: Music to Drop Bombs By [Paul Pietromonaco Subject: [idealcopy] Robert wrote.......... Its still possible to find old copies of The Cures first collection of singles Standing On The Beach, emblazoned with a sticker which denounces racist uses of the song (an attempt to foil British Skinheads who were co-opting the song in the early '80s and, it should go without saying, MISSING THE POINT COMPLETELY.) and,,,,,,,, Its as far from a racist song as you can write. It seems though that no one can get past the title and thats incredibly frustrating. Seems to me YOU are missing the point Paul............... Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 08:53:45 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Music to Drop Bombs By > >>P.S. BTW - I've always thought the song was written about Albert > Camus' "The Stranger" as well. I mean - even if Bob has fibbed in the > past about it - a quick look at the lyric sheet proves it. (^_^)<< The "oh Mersault" bit at the end is something of a giveaway! I was actually studying L'Etranger for a French A-level when I heard Killing an Arab on Peel in 1978, which was quite extraordinary (though not realy when you think about it - I guess it was a staple of the French syllabus). Even went so far as to bring a tape of it in to the class! Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 14:29:54 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Monochromatic=20Man?= Subject: [idealcopy] (OT)Fwd: [Ex-RentalNews] Another mp3 exclusive for you... I know some of you might have been curious after last weeks post... MM > > Hello again... I've just replaced the "No Scrubs > TBHOS" mp3 on the Yahoo > site with this peculiar instrumental from the > Ex-Rental vaults: > > "Matthew's Theme" (1:04) > > Believe it or not, it's actually a light-hearted > attempt at a TV theme tune, > written and recorded last summer with former > Ex-Rental member Lucy. It was > commissioned by a charity for a promotional video > presented by TV celebrity > Matthew Kelly (hence the title), but ultimately did > not get used. I've no > idea what else to do with it, so I thought I might > as well make it available > this way... > > If you'd like to download it, simply go to > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ex-RentalNews/files/MP3/ > (you may be asked to > log in) and then click on the title. > > By the way, as well as DJ-ing at The Enterprise on > Saturday 5th April, I'll > also be DJ-ing at The Fan Club (also in Camden) > later in the evening. For > details of all forthcoming DJ dates and links to > further information, just > visit the new 'd i s c o' page at > http://ex-rental.com/disco.htm ... > > That's all for now! > > Sean x > > http://ex-rental.com > > ===== /\ /\ /\ { o _ o }  \ _--_ / --Try it now! ) GWS Ltd http://www.fortunecity.com/uproar/mental/111/ Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 10:11:40 -0500 From: "Syarzhuk Kazachenka" Subject: [idealcopy] Re: Music to Drop Bombs By "Let's Start a War" by The Exploited Syarzhuk Be healthy, stay wealthy... Visit Belarusan Music Source - http://www.belmusic.net _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 15:22:03 -0000 From: Alistair Tear Subject: [idealcopy] Musiic to drop bombs by Laibach - 'Final Countdown' later A ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Transport for London Street Management hereby excludes any warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of this e-mail and any attached transmitted files. 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I wish he'd replaced Lennon outside a NY hotel in Dec 1980 ; ) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:48:06 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: wire magazine well, hell. of the big uk music mags that i know of, the wire is the only one that i don't believe i've ever seen a copy of around here. picked up the new uncut (with bowie covers disc -- thanks for the heads-up, keith!) last week, & we get mojo & q as well ... *sigh* dan >I get the digest, so apologies if I am the 91st person to post this... > >Colin does invisible jukebox in the April issue of Wire magazine. > >He has some interesting things to say, as ever, and there are some nice shots >of him on what looks like Wimbledon Common. > >The stuff about his art college encounters with Eno is probably the highlight >for me - knew there was a connection, but didn't know the details. That and >the fact that Wire did a cover of 'Glad all Over' by the Dave Clark Five. >Which is especially inspirational for a Crystal Palace fan (they run out on >to the pitch to it). > >Wire also features a big interview with Autechre and refreshingly little free >jazz, that I could see on a flick-though. > >Howard ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 10:15:47 -0800 From: "Paul Pietromonaco" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Robert wrote.......... > Seems to me YOU are missing the point Paul............... Me? I'm not involved in this. (^_^) I just pointed out that you can't trust everything Robert says in interviews, and that the song is based on Albert Camus "The Stranger". I've checked the book "10 Imaginary Years", but Robert seems to be loathe to discuss the song. I did find this snippet, though: "We played The Nashville on 9 February and the National Front turned up because they thought 'Killing An Arab' was really about killing an Arab. There was continuous fighting. The NF were distributing leaflets which mentioned 'Killing An Arab' so we had to publish denials and ended up playing the single down." So - there you go. You probably did read that it was a protest song, if Robert had to issue denials. Like I said - Robert's hard to peg in interviews. BTW - the book has a small mention of Wire. I'll type the snippet when I get a chance. Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:53:35 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Music to Drop Bombs By i read the novel (though not for a class ... even in college, my french classes weren't nearly that demanding) as a senior in high school, but unfortunately didn't hear the song till a couple of years later on the 20 of a different kind comp. that summer ('79) or the next one, though, i did bring that very comp to french class so we could hear ca plane pour moi; the teacher, a native of i believe normandy, assigned us to transcribe & translate the lyrics! dan, who made an a >I was actually studying L'Etranger for a French A-level when I heard Killing >an Arab on Peel in 1978, which was quite extraordinary (though not realy when >you think about it - I guess it was a staple of the French syllabus). Even >went so far as to bring a tape of it in to the class! > >Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 22:58:17 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Robert wrote.......... 10 imaginary years is indeed a good one ... i found a copy used some years ago, though i can't remember any details otherwise. i know plans were being floated some years back for a "20 imaginary years" update, but obviously that didn't happen (maybe the manuscript is stored somewhere in the vaults with the masters for robert's glass sandwich solo album). of course, by now the time has pretty much gone for a "25 years" version ... dan >> Seems to me YOU are missing the point Paul............... > >Me? I'm not involved in this. (^_^) I just pointed out that you can't >trust everything Robert says in interviews, and that the song is based on >Albert Camus "The Stranger". > >I've checked the book "10 Imaginary Years", but Robert seems to be loathe >to discuss the song. I did find this snippet, though: > >"We played The Nashville on 9 February and the National Front turned up >because they thought 'Killing An Arab' was really about killing an Arab. >There was continuous fighting. The NF were distributing leaflets which >mentioned 'Killing An Arab' so we had to publish denials and ended up >playing the single down." > >So - there you go. You probably did read that it was a protest song, if >Robert had to issue denials. Like I said - Robert's hard to peg in >interviews. > >BTW - the book has a small mention of Wire. I'll type the snippet when I >get a chance. > >Cheers, >Paul ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 11:14:21 -0800 From: "Paul Pietromonaco" Subject: [idealcopy] Robert Smith talks about Wire Okay - I'm late for work, so I might as well type this in. From 10 Imaginary Years, page 16: Parry decided the band should gain experience playing and booked them two dates with Wire, at Kent University on 5 October and London Polytechnic on the 6th. Robert: "They were so much better than us, I was horrified. They used white lights, dressed in black and white and their music was rigid, dramatic and very powerful, I immediately wanted to change in that direction, to get harder because we were small and lightweight in comparison." "I remember we were very nervous because this was the first proper concert we'd ever played and, on the way home, we crashed our van into a wall and nearly decapitated ourselves." "The next night we didn't make it to the venue. We got a lift from this bloke Phil who lived in Horley and had a van. But the van broke down and we had to wait for someone to come and fix it so we arrived at the gig at about eight-thirty, much too late, and Wire had just gone onstage. We asked if we could play after them but they thought it was a ploy and said no." "I remember Bill was really furious. He said 'You just can't do this or people won't book you'." Man - I would have love to have been at these gigs. Did anyone on IdealCopy see these shows? Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 14:38:32 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Robert Smith talks about Wire Paul, Robert also refers to Wire in this interview (with a Guitar mag, so it's heavy on the tech content). I've posted it before but it bears repeating. http://www.musicfanclubs.org/cure/press/I11.html Here's the relevant bit... >>It was actually seeing Wire that gave me the idea to follow a different course, to hold out against the punk wave. At the time, it was a lot easier just to play loud and fast, and that was a good night. Everyone went home talking about you. But even then, I felt, "We're gonna go down with the ship if we do that." Seeing Wire pointed out another direction to me. I didn't even especially like Wire - still don't - but this particular performance was just earth-shattering for me. We were supporting them at this small place, like a student thing. We played pretty badly; I was drunk and it was a shambles. We did "10.15" three times and no one really noticed. Then Wire came on, and during the first song about half the audience left. It was the most intense thing I thought I'd ever see - blinding white lights shooting straight into the audience and this incredible wall of noise. But it wasn't like thrash, just ponderous noise. Then they'd stop it and do little quiet bits. I thought it was really excellent. I remember having a big row in the van with the others about it afterwards because they all thought it was shit, and I thought it was immense. That's what I wanted the Cure to do. It took about a year and a half - between going to play with the Banshees, Michael leaving the band, and Simon joining - before I got to the point where I had people around me who understood that as well. Simon got the idea of doing stuff that had lots of power but didn't have to be fast. I think that's really what the difference was. There's some medium-to slow-paced things on Three Imaginary Boys. At the time, you just didn't do that. << Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 12:56:27 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: Fwd: Re: [idealcopy] Read and Burn 3 includes guest musicians Phil Thornally and Norm Westberg That's a terrible thing to say Keith,much as I hold Eric Claptout in disdain I wouldn't wish that on him,John had also imo become a hypocrite for he sang about being down and out whilste wallowing in millions...........he actualy said in one interview that 'everything I've done before now was rubbish'........I'd go so far as to say everything he did after the interview was also,as for Yoko..Uuuggghhhhhh!.Ari Keith Astbury wrote:From: "Keith Astbury" To: Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Read and Burn 3 includes guest musicians Phil Thornally and Norm Westberg Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 17:45:13 -0000 > You know, it was cool to see Clapton jam with the Beatles but > no one thought he would replace John Lennon! I wish he'd replaced Lennon outside a NY hotel in Dec 1980 ; ) Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 13:05:57 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Robert Smith talks about Wire Paul Pietromonaco wrote: Okay - I'm late for work, so I might as well type this in. From 10 Imaginary Years, page 16: Robert: (on Wire) "They were so much better than us, I was horrified. They used white lights, dressed in black and white and their music was rigid, dramatic and very powerful, I immediately wanted to change in that direction, to get harder because we were small and lightweight in comparison." "I remember we were very nervous because this was the first proper concert we'd ever played and, on the way home, we crashed our van into a wall and nearly decapitated ourselves." "The next night we didn't make it to the venue. We got a lift from this bloke Phil who lived in Horley and had a van. But the van broke down and we had to wait for someone to come and fix it so we arrived at the gig at about eight-thirty, much too late, and Wire had just gone onstage. We asked if we could play after them but they thought it was a ploy and said no." "I remember Bill was really furious. He said 'You just can't do this or people won't book you'." Man - I would have love to have been at these gigs. Did anyone on IdealCopy see these shows? Cheers, Paul No,but I saw them in '79 @ the Hammersmith,and they were all dressed in Black with white strobe-lighting casting some fantastic images on the back-drop.Ari Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 20:58:11 -0000 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] True Crap Facts (We Used to Believe Him) >>>From: "Mad Witch Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] revisionist Bitsilli@aol.con really has proved himself a master of revisionist hypocrisy yet again. >Next time he feels like slandering me, perhaps he could trawl the smoe archive >and get his facts right as his memory is clearly a little faulty. >>>Just to set the record straight, Billy did get his facts his right. He quoted verbatim what BH had said about me. Just to set the record straight, Billy did get his facts wrong. He implied that the phrase 'Bursacrap' was my invention, but in fact it was first coined by Mark Bursa. Can't actually remember what comments I made about Astbury but could it have been that he's really very boring? It's not the fact that he knows the names of people in Status Quo but that he actually wants to tell us about it that amazes me. This has nothing to do with Bursacrap which is sometimes of use. Cracked Machine Highly Irregular Cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine NP The Hunches - Yes. No. Shut It (In The Red) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:00:54 -0000 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] Only You Har Mar >>>So I just wanted to play to people that might party more and be more worried about having a good time than what Wire seven-inch they just bought." But what about the people more interested in listening to the 7" than buying it who also like to party and find WIRE do top notch performances to jig about to? Har Mar Supertsar sounds like a hyped up load of toss and his old bands Calvin Krime & Sean Na Na were mediocre. Better AmRep bets were always Hammerhead, Vertigo, Helios Creed & Janitor Joe. >>>Which explains, I suppose, why I found his performance tedious in the extreme when I saw him supporting the Yeah Yeah Yeahs at the London Astoria last week. "Oh so wrong You're growing old Under the gun And I believe them all Well I'm just a poor little baby Cursed when I believed them all I wish I could buy back The woman you stole Why control? Why control? You walk, walk, walk, walk My witness" (Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Why Control?) "You Used to Believe Me" (WIRE ~ 99.9) Cracked Machine Highly Irregular Cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:03:45 -0000 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] A Case >>>The final choice came down between Wire and ache- case (A Case/8 case ?). Those were the two choices. We chose Wire because it had less letters. The aborted appelation was A Case The Geezers were also booted about but ultimately kicked to bits for which we can probably sigh w/relief! Cracked Machine Highly Irregular Cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:04:35 -0000 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Rancid Battery Acid Fuel (Never Workin' for Clampdown) This combo is different Snakes being formerly the mancpunkers known as Polythene... Daisy Snake did do a very brief drumming stint for The Fall just after the NYC BurnsCrooksHanley walkout. Robert was keeping fit on drum farm and there was no bass. Cracked Machine Highly Irregular Cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine ----- Original Message ----- From: MarkBursa@aol.com To: umur_ot@hotmail.com Cc: idealcopy@smoe.org Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 2:32 AM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Rancid Battery Acid Fuel (Never Workin' for Clampdown) The Snakes know "Rudie Can't Fail" and the positivity of their stripped raw garage barrage could not be denied. Wow. And you didn't tell us that Robert was back handling "vocal chores" for his obviously reformed pub rock supergoup. Was Nick Garvey on bass? Did they play Teenage Head? Mark ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:10:53 -0000 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] Bee Rite at Home From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Displaying an Interest in Landslides Hard Impact isn't this what the Strokes should really be sounding like >if they were worthy of the hype? Those art phag queerboys >>>>>>>geez, graeme, i know places in alabama & arkansas where you'd be right at home. A happy land where life is beautiful all the time, where the concept of irony is yet to rear its ugly head and inter-racial marriages are the norm. Cracked Machine Highly Irregular Cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:11:22 -0000 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] Off Pulsating Charnel > >>I don't really know what Microhouse is.<< > > Obviously a new sub-genre of house. These are developed in laboratories > outside Chicago. Currently being worked on are other, vile, mutant strains: >Doll's House >Charnel House 99.9 being the finest of the latter genre ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:49:23 -0000 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] Bad Business Plan? >>>Just finished "Whole Wide World" by Paul McAuley. Nominally sci-fi, or at least that's where my library had it, it's basically a detective novel set in London featuring technology, sex, violence and music. MMMmmm....technology. How very novel! A sci-fi novel featuring technology! What will they think of next? Thank you for pimping that to us. Did the publishers give you a kickback or is your business plan not up to the Goose Standard? Cracked Machine Highly Irregular Cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:50:41 -0000 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] Words of Colin & Robots >>>From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] attn Graeme..colin interview >>>Couldn't find your email(!) address so I can't email you offlist,but Jan is finding it a bit difficult to understand colins words,if he puts it to c.d would you be prepared to transcribe it for the rest of the group? I pretty much only interview via email these days as transcribing is too time consuming. Why don't you do it? Jan also said there wasn't much in the interview which we wouldn't already know, so what's the point? There is quite an informative interview about SWIM in the most recent Robots & Electronic Brains zine which I bought for #1.50 (with compilation CD) in Glasgow the day after Enon. I expect Jimmy Possession still has a few copies. Send a cheque, postal order or hiddencash for #4 (UK) or 10dollars (US) to subscribe for 3 issues beginning No11 (the current one w/Colin) J. Thomas R+EB 133 Green End Rd Cambridge CB4 1RW www.come.to/robots It seems albums from Lobe and Toucaen are looming on the Swim~Horizon Colin is Fast First. In Berlin I was impressed by the speed of Germ Ship and cocky Newman fired off a quick 'That was a slow version, we usually do it much faster than that!' yeahyeahyeah Cracked Machine Highly Irregular Cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine "Now you're an adult you're BORING It's your life sentence!" (Dead Kennedys - Life Sentence) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 14:16:37 -0800 From: Paul Pietromonaco Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Music to Drop Bombs By >"Let's Start a War" by The Exploited > And, don't forget - "Let's Have A War" by Fear. (^_^) Cheers, Paul ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 17:54:33 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Fwd: from People Like Us thought i'd forward this along from the Coil list: In a message dated 3/18/03 4:40:16 PM Central Standard Time, JPaul23@aol.com writes: > 24 April 2003 > Cut and Splice Festival, The Institute for Contemporary Arts, The Mall, > London SW1Y 5AH (nearest tube: Charing Cross) > PLU will play at some point between 8pm and 10pm, and all will be done by > 10.30pm. > http://www.sonicartsnetwork.org/cutandsplice/cutandsplice_intro.html > The festival features, amongst others, performances from Farmers Manual, > Bernard Parmegiani, Oval and Chris Watson. > The event will be represented (interview/CDs) on Here And Now, on BBC Radio > > 3, on 3 May, at approximately 11pm. There will also be coverage > (interview/PLU video footage) on John Peel's pages on the BBC Radio 1 > website > during this period. > if anyone out there attends..please let me know what it was like... Robert Return-Path: Received: from rly-xe03.mx.aol.com (rly-xe03.mail.aol.com [172.20.105.195]) by air-xe04.mail.aol.com (v92.17) with ESMTP id MAILINXE43-3b783e77a04276; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 17:40:15 -0500 Received: from www.hollyfeld.org (bitsy.hollyfeld.org [66.92.109.182]) by rly-xe03.mx.aol.com (v92.16) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXE32-41c3e77a02a148; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 17:39:40 -0500 Received: from bitsy.hollyfeld.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www.hollyfeld.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2IMUB80005628; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 17:30:39 -0500 Received: from imo-d02.mx.aol.com (imo-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.34]) by www.hollyfeld.org (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2IMTP7w005604 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 17:30:06 -0500 Received: from JPaul23@aol.com by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id 5.132.1c5fc2c9 (30960) for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2003 17:34:40 -0500 (EST) From: JPaul23@aol.com Message-ID: <132.1c5fc2c9.2ba8f8ff@aol.com> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 17:34:39 EST Subject: Re: [Coil]fwd:from People Like Us To: coil@hollyfeld.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 540 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 0.99c.8 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain X-BeenThere: coil@hollyfeld.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: coil@hollyfeld.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: coil-bounces@hollyfeld.org Errors-To: coil-bounces@hollyfeld.org X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information 24 April 2003 Cut and Splice Festival, The Institute for Contemporary Arts, The Mall, London SW1Y 5AH (nearest tube: Charing Cross) PLU will play at some point between 8pm and 10pm, and all will be done by 10.30pm. http://www.sonicartsnetwork.org/cutandsplice/cutandsplice_intro.html The festival features, amongst others, performances from Farmers Manual, Bernard Parmegiani, Oval and Chris Watson. The event will be represented (interview/CDs) on Here And Now, on BBC Radio 3, on 3 May, at approximately 11pm. There will also be coverage (interview/PLU video footage) on John Peel's pages on the BBC Radio 1 website during this period. _______________________________________________ Coil mailing list Coil@hollyfeld.org http://hollyfeld.org/mailman/listinfo/coil ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 18:36:57 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Rancid Battery Acid Fuel (Never Workin' for Clampdown) > >>This combo is different Snakes being formerly the mancpunkers known as > Polythene... > > Daisy Snake did do a very brief drumming stint for The Fall just after the > NYC > BurnsCrooksHanley walkout.<< Ah, wondered who she was. Saw that line-up at the LA2 in London. MES and all-girl Fall (MES on vocals, Julia Nagle on keyboards and occasionally guitar, Karen Leatham (sp?) on bass and unidentified girl drummer. Despite the oddness of the line-up it sounded EXACTLY like the Fall. Granny/bongos concept verified. Did a cracking version of This Perfect Day by the Saints as an encore. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 17:13:34 -0800 From: "Magnetic North" Subject: [idealcopy] triggerfish The Web-tv programm, an interview with Colin Newman and one of the german punk-band die Toten Hosen in die Kuehlkammer on triggerfish.de is still available. Try this adress http://www.triggerfish.de/magazin/home.cfm? p=3318&CFID=528137&CFTOKEN=36130960#top and click on Colin Newman - -------- Einstuerzende Neubauten (www.neubauten.org) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 17:20:58 -0800 From: "Magnetic North" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] triggerfish The Web-tv programm, an interview with Colin Newman and one of the german punk-band die Toten Hosen in die Kuehlkammer on triggerfish.de is still available. Or try on this way First http://www.triggerfish.de/magazin/home.cfm? then click on Web-tv click on Web-tv archiv and then click on Colin Newman - -------- Einstuerzende Neubauten (www.neubauten.org) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 20:42:42 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Bad Business Plan? In a message dated 3/18/03 4:52:26 PM, umur_ot@hotmail.com writes: > >How very novel! >A sci-fi novel featuring technology! >What will they think of next? well, the future could always go down the mad max route... i also remember michael gira once stating something about technology not having a place in his music. something about in the future there won't be any synthesizers and electronics, but there will be guitars. - -paul c.d. n.p. durutti column - meschugana ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V6 #80 ******************************