From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V6 #78 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Monday, March 17 2003 Volume 06 : Number 078 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Fwd: [idealcopy] Re: Homophobia [Ari Britt ] [idealcopy] O.T:For Ramones Fans......... [Ari Britt ] Re: [idealcopy] Re: Homophobia [RLynn9@aol.com] [idealcopy] Primetime Wire [voyteck@webtv.net] [idealcopy] Smashin' Yr Pumpkin w/ Music For Fruit ["Bill Hick" ] [idealcopy] Just up on Pollstar! [Santa Cruzer ] [idealcopy] Landslide ["Keith Astbury" ] Re: [idealcopy] Smashin' Yr Pumpkin w/ Music For Fruit [Andrew Walkingsha] Re: [idealcopy] Smashin' Yr Pumpkin w/ Music For Fruit [RLynn9@aol.com] ot Re: [idealcopy] Just up on Pollstar! [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] Re: ot Re: [idealcopy] Just up on Pollstar! [MarkBursa@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 04:01:00 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: Fwd: [idealcopy] Re: Homophobia >This isn't the first time he has used the word 'Fag' or the silent-P ironic >'Phag', nor is it the first use of 'Queerboy'. > >I know Graeme isn't homophobic, but thats only because I have read enough of >his work to know that he ain't no Redneck! he's being ironic, and perhaps in >his mind...funny. > Actualy I suspect he does it for the same reason he posts 'attack' messages,he get's a 'Kick' out of getting a reaction...right Graeme? np.Wilco :being there Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 05:47:55 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] O.T:For Ramones Fans......... Two new movies on the Ramones.......... http://www.rollingstone.com/news/newsarticle.asp?afl=mail1&nid=17713 Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:16:12 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: Homophobia In a message dated 3/16/03 6:01:38 AM Central Standard Time, luvjazzz@yahoo.com writes: > Actualy I suspect he does it for the same reason he posts 'attack' > messages,he get's a 'Kick' out of getting a reaction...right Graeme? > actually guys, i think he was just having fun with my own words....remember the post that i made about the Neanderthal type of heavy rawk fans that surmized that anything with synthesizers "must be made by twee girlie men art school fags" ? that's all...nothing more.. i do not know Graeme but i seriously doubt that he is in any way homophobic or prejudiced.....he comes in contact with too many people from all walks of life to have a closed mind... he was just goofing on a comment that i was quoting... no big deal Robert ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:50:53 -0600 (CST) From: voyteck@webtv.net Subject: [idealcopy] Primetime Wire Did anyone catch ABC "Primetime Live" from last Thursday? The recovered Elizabeth Smart abduction story included a visit to a Utah resident, who sheltered & played music for the "unknown" threesome at the time. What did the Utah resident show the cameraman in his interview? 2 record albums fanned out, with Wire's Pink Flag in front! Pink Flag flashed on national tv for a few seconds, as such a thin connection to "Silence of the lambs" / Colin's "Alone" comes to mind. Hey Utah, are you on this list? Tell us your take on the matter if you are (or legally can as witness). Also curious of the "music you entertained them with" mention, as your "guests" appeared, well, different (dressed in sheets?) from most music enthusiasts I've been around (concert/club scenes do not count here). Regards from a Wire sighting, voyteck ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:35:45 -0000 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] Smashin' Yr Pumpkin w/ Music For Fruit >>>We know Billy toured with New Order for a while, let's say Bruce hurts his hand and... Blam! Blam! Blam! One by one, Newman, Lewis and Grey are taken out by the masked gunman at the back of the auditorium. Maybe WIRE fans are a little more demanding than New Order fans? Especially the mad witches amongst them! If WIRE ever get as pudgey and complacent as the terminally tedious New Order then Bruce Gilbert will probably have popped his clogs! Be very careful about bringing up New Order comparisons in the company of Lewis, that's frighting talk son! Billy Corkhill is One WIRE without Bruce Gilbert would not be WIRE It would be WIE or IRE And WIE might seem a good question at that point Just imagine if Graham Lewis had some European infidelity and they roped in Thom Yorke and then (the horror) Colin Newman just swam off into the sinset and they asked Humpty Dumpty to do some 'shouty blokism' just before he had a great Fall. Robert could call the new beat combo CRAP and none of us would even notice. A few ol'Snakes covers might even keep bootleggers inebriated! As for replacing Robert with a drum machine perhaps there's water under a bridge? Judging by Subspace Biographies Robert Pollard wouldn't be nearly so out of place as Egghead Corgan, and both Poss & Stenger might be more sensibly able to step in to help in a dire emergency! BRUCE GILBERT IS NOT A REPLACEABLE PART! Cracked Machine Highly Irregular Cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine NP Enon - Sex Beat (Gun Club cover from the compilation 'Power Energy on the High Wire' which also includes a great exclusive slinky sultry new Liars song 'Bones So Clean You Want To Kiss Them' on www.contact-records.com) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:46:22 -0000 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] Do Kings Have Long Arms? >>>And in the name of research, I unselfishly went to the Barbican on Saturday to see what pubs were open in the area. ;-] There is really only one contender...it's called The Kings Head This King has a big body as last night I was in his Arms in Salford, witnessing Sonic Youth type malestroms from Opaque and Section 25 meets lo-fi Fallism as inventive ideas beyond technical chops burst out from the young trio they call Park Attack. The Glasgow rock scene appears in bets of health. The night before there was an inadvertant eighties WIREness to the heavily programmed beatscapes of Ampersound and Illuminati took his dark TG influenced rhythmic microbe sheen to another level with an axe to boot! Cracked Machine Highly Irregular Cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 11:38:22 -0800 (PST) From: Santa Cruzer Subject: [idealcopy] Just up on Pollstar! Hey all~ I was just looking at some of the latest news that Pollstar.com has posted. One of them is that the original Stooges are planning to reform for the Coachella fest this year! ===== Rick Hindman, 3R Productions PO Box 7770 Santa Cruz, CA 95062 t: (831) 425-7335 f: (831) 425-7356 Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online http://webhosting.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:49:24 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] Landslide From this months Muzik mag... Dead Man Ray - Landslide "Produced by the god-like genius that is Steve Albini, er, adequately, but saved by Colin Newman of Wire, who speeds it up, in their cool, digital punk ramma-lamma style". Who are Giddy Motors? Also produced by Albini - they apparently sound like McLuskey or Shellac 'getting into Dio-era Rainbow.' BTW the free cd 'Disco Punk' features remixes of The Rapture, Radio 4, Fischerspooner (Emerge), etc. Keith NP 'Family of God' ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:49:49 +0000 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Smashin' Yr Pumpkin w/ Music For Fruit On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 03:35:45PM -0000, Bill Hick wrote: > >>>We know Billy toured with New Order for a while, let's say Bruce > hurts his hand and... > > Blam! Blam! Blam! > > One by one, Newman, Lewis and Grey are taken out by the masked gunman at the > back of the auditorium. Ah, but that lacks style. Much more likely that the "musicians" would be Ex-Lion Tamers and hence now stuntmen, the stage direction and graphic gunshot effects by the brothers Chapman, and the subterfuge revealed when the gunman Gilbert removed his mask. After all, for snipers, we know it's all In The Art of Stopping. > Billy Corkhill is One I thought he was Zero? > WIRE without Bruce Gilbert would not be WIRE > > It would be WIE or IRE > > And WIE might seem a good question at that point but IRE would be an excellent name for a WIRE cover band. Possibly Billy Corgan could be permitted to be a roadie, but Kevin Shields would be more likely as a surrogate Gilbert - who else creates such joyous *noise* with a guitar? Maybe they could cover Read and Burn 01 and 02 on future tours, stopping only for someone to change CDs over on the player at the corner of the stage. > BRUCE GILBERT IS NOT > A REPLACEABLE PART! Reading this, I imagine a label coming with WIRE albums now: "CONTAINS NO USER-SERVICABLE PARTS. IN EVENT OF DISSATISFACTION, PLEASE SEEK EAR-SYRINGING AND PLACE YOUR STEREO FOR SALE ON EBAY". This post has been inspired by excessive quantities of caffeine. - - Andrew - -- email: andrew@lexical.org.uk http://www.lexical.org.uk/ Earth Sciences, University of Cambridge http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ CUR1350, 1350 MW Cambridgeshire and online http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:19:53 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Smashin' Yr Pumpkin w/ Music For Fruit In a message dated 3/16/03 2:50:49 PM Central Standard Time, andrew-wire@lexical.org.uk writes: > but IRE would be an excellent name for a WIRE cover band. Possibly > Billy Corgan could be permitted to be a roadie, but Kevin Shields > would be more likely as a surrogate Gilbert - who else creates such > joyous *noise* with a guitar? > > Robert Hampson? Christian Fennesz? Rafael Toral? Tore Elgaroy? just to name a few rl ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:22:21 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: ot Re: [idealcopy] Just up on Pollstar! In a message dated 3/16/03 2:38:55 PM, r_j_h@yahoo.com writes: > >One of them is that the original Stooges are planning >to reform for the Coachella fest this year! i heard something about mike watt working with them. - -paul c.d. n.p. sigur ros () ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:50:16 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: ot Re: [idealcopy] Just up on Pollstar! > >>i heard something about mike watt working with them.<< A "Stooges" featuring the Brothers Asheton, Mike Watt and J Mascis has been touring for the past couple of years.... Mark ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V6 #78 ******************************