From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V6 #73 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Wednesday, March 12 2003 Volume 06 : Number 073 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] Immersed in Jelly Bore ["Keith Astbury" ] Re: [idealcopy] triggerfish ["ian.s. jackson" ] Re: [idealcopy] (Answer to)triggerfish(question) ["ian.s. jackson" ] [idealcopy] 80s buzz buzz buzz [Tisbili@aol.com] RE: [idealcopy] Re: Barbican travel etc. [Alistair Tear ] RE: [idealcopy] OT: sonic uncool... some self promotion ["Eric Klaver" ] RE: [idealcopy] OT: sonic uncool... some self promotion ["Eric Klaver" ] Re: [idealcopy] triggerfish George Gill ["Magnetic North" ] [idealcopy] Displaying an Interest in Landslides Hard Impact ["Bill Hick"] [idealcopy] Re: Asylum & Crossbow games [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Immersed in Jelly Bore [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Read & Zwan [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Read & Zwan ["Paul Ye" ] Re: [idealcopy] Immersed in Jelly Bore [MarkBursa@aol.com] Re: ot- Re: bishop's finger [idealcopy] Barbican - flag:Drinking [MarkBur] Re: [idealcopy] Rancid Battery Acid Fuel (Never Workin' for Clampdown) [M] Re: [idealcopy] Displaying an Interest in Landslides Hard Impact ["dan ba] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:48:22 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Immersed in Jelly Bore > > Jelinek bores me shitless, real robyoungmuzak > > What is robyoungmuzak? IIRC, it's the harmonica playing on Status Quo's Piledriver LP ; ) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 06:58:55 EST From: HowardJSpencer@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Re: Barbican travel etc. It is worth flagging early that the Metropolitan and Circle lines, serving Barbican and Moorgate, are not going to be functional at weekends until the summer, and there is only an intermittent replacement bus service. Actually, the underground website helpfully says that there *will* be a service some weekends, but refers to local station noticeboards to say which. I certainly wouldn't rely on this. The Central line is completely out at the moment too, though this may be up and running by the end of April - though they have to replace 11,200 bolts, apparently, which is why it is taking so long. Best advice has to be Northern line to Moorgate or Thameslink to Farringdon (more of a hike). As to pubs, I'm happy to go with Alistair's suggestion of course, though I was in a place called the Shakespeare last Sat which is almost bang opposite the (closed) Barbican tube on Aldersgate. It was very quiet, has nice big tables, does decent looking food and real beer (Bombadier, Tetley). I prefer Timothy Taylor myself, but perhaps if Alistair thinks this King's head gaff might be impossibly busy we could go for this one? Just an idea, don't want to muddy the waters... Thanks to Andrew for posting the ST article. I like the cut of these set people's jibs. Also like the description of Wire as "high energy" - can just hear Evelyn King segue-ing neatly into Reuters. Howard ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:59:16 +0000 From: "Jason Rogers" Subject: [idealcopy] Re: Maserati I have the earlier Maserati EP, 37:29:24, and the debut Maserati album, The Language Of Cities. Both are excellent, in my opinion. I still haven't seen them live, but they do play around here in Atlanta quite often, sometimes with a band called Good Friday Experiment that I really like. If you enjoy Mogwai or Tortoise, I'd recommend Maserati's work. For me, they also sound like early U2 if U2 had recorded only instrumentals. Jason Now Playing: Ride - "Leave Them All Behind" >Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:38:25 EST >From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com > >Now Playing: Maserati - "Ambassador Of Cinema" > >do you like this? i saw them maybe a year or so ago and had mixed feelings. >the gentler, spacier stuff came across well, but when they tried to rock >they >sounded like high school kids in the garage...granted, they are pretty >young, >but still. how's it come across on record (cd)? > >- -another the paul _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:01:21 +0000 From: "ian.s. jackson" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] triggerfish > > Fear is a mind-killer! > >Watch it. Adam blleding Freeland used that sample. memory awakens...Earache records...harsh, industrial (d&b...?) question...duh, who...??? ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:04:24 +0000 From: "ian.s. jackson" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] (Answer to)triggerfish(question) >so did EON > >RL apologies...as i didn't read through before replying/asking... this was it wasn't it...??? the Earache track with the 'Fear is the mindkiller' sample...??? (^_^) ian.s.j. _________________________________________________________________ Surf together with new Shared Browsing http://join.msn.com/?page=features/browse&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=74&DI=1059 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:11:22 +0000 From: "ian.s. jackson" Subject: [idealcopy] Barbican drinking i'm very happy to go along with the general concensus, though i'd prefer the 'quieter' place, as there's likely to be some meeting/greeting and excited conversation... ian.s.j. >As to pubs, I'm happy to go with Alistair's suggestion of course, though I >was in a place called the Shakespeare last Sat which is almost bang >opposite >the (closed) Barbican tube on Aldersgate. It was very quiet, has nice big >tables, does decent looking food and real beer (Bombadier, Tetley). I >prefer >Timothy Taylor myself, but perhaps if Alistair thinks this King's head gaff >might be impossibly busy we could go for this one? Just an idea, don't >want >to muddy the waters... >Howard _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://messenger.msn.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 07:16:42 EST From: Tisbili@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] 80s buzz buzz buzz Just finished "Whole Wide World" by Paul McAuley. Nominally sci-fi, or at least that's where my library had it, it's basically a detective novel set in London featuring technology, sex, violence and music. MMMmmm....technology. Late 70s punk music is all through it, as The Clash and Wreckless Eric (!!) figure prominently. Lots of other folks from that era get name checked, though no wire mention other than the buzz buzz buzz in the ear of the protagonist at the end of page 190. __tB____ np: buncha stuff on Northside records--a US indie that features Northern European stuff, mostly from Norway and Sweden. Kind of an updated ECM. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:17:39 -0000 From: Alistair Tear Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Re: Barbican travel etc. That sounds like a good call Howard I'm happy to go for the quieter place A > course, though I > was in a place called the Shakespeare last Sat which is > almost bang opposite > the (closed) Barbican tube on Aldersgate. It was very quiet, > has nice big > tables, does decent looking food and real beer (Bombadier, > Tetley). I prefer > Timothy Taylor myself, but perhaps if Alistair thinks > energy" - can just > hear Evelyn King segue-ing neatly into Reuters. > > Howard > ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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RL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:21:25 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: [idealcopy] Frequency/Rez Andrew Walkingshaw: >On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 05:20:54PM -0600, Miles Goosens wrote: > >> >> A friend of mine on another list worked on FREQUENCY, which is a >> similarly ambitious and music-centered PS2 title. > >... not to mention truly excellent: my two favourite games of 2002. >(Not Dan Schmidt, dfan@dfan.org, is it? He plays Go on a Go server I've >been known to frequent.) That's the guy. aaron m.: >I loved Frequency, but I don't think it was going for the same kind of >thing as Rez. The more you got into the music in Frequency, the less you >could watch the pretty pictures. Rez made you interact with the pretty >pictures in time with the music. I agree, but my point was that if you liked the idea of cool soundtrack *as* gameplay in one game, chances are you'd like the other game. As, I think, demonstrated by Andrew's assessment above. :-) later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:23:49 -0500 From: "Eric Klaver" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] OT: sonic uncool... some self promotion For those of you interested in OMD and like-minded stuff, my band of some years "Invisible College" have just put out a CD single. Check it out at www.invisible-college.net. It's on the store page, where you will find a preview of two songs. Cheers, Eric in Toronto PS "twee girlie art fags?" Us? - -----Original Message----- From: RLynn9@aol.com [mailto:RLynn9@aol.com] Sent: March 7, 2003 2:06 PM To: PaulRabjohn@aol.com; eklaver@elysium-sl.com Cc: idealcopy@smoe.org Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: sonic uncool In a message dated 3/7/03 12:45:32 PM Central Standard Time, PaulRabjohn@aol.com writes: << > With that lineup, my guess is that it's a computer spellchecked OMD. > > Eric in Toronto ////no , they were a horrible synth act. think (even more) MOR flock of seagulls. p >> OMD a "horrible" synth act ? hmmm...have you heard their first three or four albums? i don't find them to be horrible at all... as someone who loves and respects electronic music dearly, i think that OMD hold a special place in that genres history.... ahh well...i often find that most people who are into "aggressive" and "loud" music such as punk and rock usually hate anything electronic anyway...."if it has synths, it MUST be made be twee girlie-men art fags with no balls or anger" yawn... RL RL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:40:55 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Frequency/Rez it's funny how talk of "crap 80's bands" bores and agitates people but talk of video games doesn't.... i guess people are only agitated by things that aren't interested in? your truly, the-artist-formerly-known-as-innocuous.. now-known-as-the-lightning-rod-of-controversy Robert ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:29:23 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: sonic uncool... some self promotion cool band name ... from the jacques vallee book? dan >For those of you interested in OMD and like-minded stuff, my band of some >years "Invisible College" have just put out a CD single. Check it out at >www.invisible-college.net. It's on the store page, where you will find a >preview of two songs. > >Cheers, > >Eric in Toronto > >PS "twee girlie art fags?" Us? > >-----Original Message----- >From: RLynn9@aol.com [mailto:RLynn9@aol.com] >Sent: March 7, 2003 2:06 PM >To: PaulRabjohn@aol.com; eklaver@elysium-sl.com >Cc: idealcopy@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: sonic uncool > > >In a message dated 3/7/03 12:45:32 PM Central Standard Time, >PaulRabjohn@aol.com writes: > ><< > With that lineup, my guess is that it's a computer spellchecked OMD. > > > > Eric in Toronto > > ////no , they were a horrible synth act. think (even more) MOR flock of > seagulls. p > >> > >OMD a "horrible" synth act ? hmmm...have you heard their first three or >four >albums? i don't find them to be horrible at all... > >as someone who loves and respects electronic music dearly, i think that OMD >hold a special place in that genres history.... > >ahh well...i often find that most people who are into "aggressive" and >"loud" >music such as punk and rock usually hate anything electronic anyway...."if >it >has synths, it MUST be made be twee girlie-men art fags with no balls or >anger" > >yawn... > >RL > >RL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:36:56 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Frequency/Rez truly. as it happens, the subject doesn't interest me at all -- i've never played a single computer or even a video game (unless one counts video poker & such at the casinos in biloxi), or for that matter even the retrograde likes of pinball -- but somehow i manged not to throw a conniption fit over other people talking about things that interest them. guess that sort of restraint isn't exactly universal. dan >it's funny how talk of "crap 80's bands" bores and agitates people but talk >of video games doesn't.... > >i guess people are only agitated by things that aren't interested in? > > >your truly, >the-artist-formerly-known-as-innocuous.. > >now-known-as-the-lightning-rod-of-controversy > >Robert ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:40:18 -0500 From: "Eric Klaver" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] OT: sonic uncool... some self promotion Thaks Dan. It was an apolitical, areligious organisation formed at Oxford during the reformation. It was established to further scientific inquiry and experimentation. It was largely the beginnings of the Royal Society. As I have found out recently, there is some connection between IC and Freemasonry. I am not familiar with that book, Dan. I will have to look it up. Eric in Toronto ///////////////////////////// cool band name ... from the jacques vallee book? dan >For those of you interested in OMD and like-minded stuff, my band of some >years "Invisible College" have just put out a CD single. Check it out at >www.invisible-college.net. It's on the store page, where you will find a >preview of two songs. > >Cheers, > >Eric in Toronto > >PS "twee girlie art fags?" Us? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:47:32 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Frequency/Rez Robert, > >>it's funny how talk of "crap 80's bands" bores and agitates people but > talk > of video games doesn't.... > > i guess people are only agitated by things that aren't interested in?<< Can we talk about crap 80s video games then? Asteroids or Missile Command? Mark ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:51:41 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Frequency/Rez In a message dated 3/11/03 11:47:32 AM Central Standard Time, Mark Bursa writes: << Robert, << >>it's funny how talk of "crap 80's bands" bores and agitates people but talk of video games doesn't.... i guess people are only agitated by things that aren't interested in?<< >> Can we talk about crap 80s video games then? Asteroids or Missile Command? Mark ;-)>>>> actually, i prefer Defender, Crossbow and an early computer game called Asylum (corker of a game that one)... and by the way, i was only kidding...wasn't trying to upset anyone... sheesh! lighten up guys! spring and more Wire shows are in the air! Robert ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:09:08 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Frequency/Rez RLynn9@aol.com wrote: it's funny how talk of "crap 80's bands" bores and agitates people but talk of video games doesn't.... i guess people are only agitated by things that aren't interested in? your truly, the-artist-formerly-known-as-innocuous.. now-known-as-the-lightning-rod-of-controversy Robert That's funny as hell Robert but not nessecellery true,people usually only get agitated (in my observations at least) when someone sez what THEY like is crap,even I do that,however I realize we all have different tastes so I TRY not to take too much offence.some people take offence at anything,what's known as thin skinned,Graeme seems to know where to hit to ring that bell yet I find most of his postings informative,albeit at times unnesecellery agressive .btw Keith might be joining us september,wouldn't THAT be cool.stay well.Ari Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:01:59 -0800 From: "Magnetic North" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] triggerfish George Gill Did try to write down the interview. Here is a start. Maybe the expressions are not like they have used to be written, but Colin's speaking is faster then my ears can hear now and then. Maybe it's a good idea to send it to the Wireviews when it is complete sometime later. there was one guy called George Gill. I was at the Art-school with him. I was actually in the same year at art-school with him. We were in the same course. Hew was a bit more of a kind of romantic. I think he would liked seen himself as been a sort of combination of Verlaine and , I dont know, some kind of classic rock n roll. Like a kind of sort of poetry and rock n roll mixed with a lot of drinking. Thats what a kind how he saw himself. In his own opinion. That was not in anybody else opinion. He was like his band. We, Bruce Gilbert and I were in some early incarnation of while we play an art-school party. I was the singer, Bruce was the rhythm- guitarist, George was the lead-guitarist and occasionally vocalist and we havent yet succeeded in finding a permanent bass-player and the drummer didnt turn up, but have backing-vocalists. And we sang Georges songs, which were frankly crap. It was amazed how a cat, can going after that but somehow we covered sort transformed our self into me and George and Bruce playing my three guitars and vocals on one guitar-amp in my bedroom in Watford. That was a kind of genesis a bit, but still doesnt called Wire at that point. We found the bass-player and drummer. And then we place the five-piece. We even play gigs. At early gigs we had plugs pulled a few times, on were rubbish thats why. And then there was in that kind of period in the early 70s we used to do ground hackle bands. And one group, you know you didnt like, which is basically anyone else. You gonna shout at them. And George was very, very drunk in a pub in Killburn. And he said he hated that band so much he is gonna steel their amplifier. So he was making of down the stairs of the pub with the amplifier and he fell over him , fell down the stairs and broke his leg and he was hospitalized for six... this is a absolute true story. He was hospitalized for six weeks. And then we start rehearsing without him. First of all there was the amazingly knowing to the guitar silence was, that was good . Like all his songs were kind of reduced to, like two minutes. And then we adjust, well, We cant do it. It was dressed very obvious that it was some expect without him. And then we have to go on after our own material and we start writing our own material. And by the time he was back we had stolen the band from him. That was it. That was a lucky break? Yes absolutely a lucky break. Sorry, I didnt get the pomm You have still contact with him? I havent spoke with George for years. I think Bruce might have seen him for ten years Hes the Pete Best of Wire? He was the Pete Best of Wire , Yeah absolutely, the one that nearly was. But it wouldnt have been, more then one person have claimed to that role actually, it wouldnt have been Wire without most of all that people. Thats the reality of it. Did the name changed to Wire, while he was being pissed of in hospital? Yeah, yeah, no I think, we have a few whirled Wire on for the first time we played gigs. We had called some really bad things. I dont even have go on in to . Once we kind a realized that was a kind of serious we did spend a lot of time and we had a choice. The final choice came down between Wire and ache- case (A Case/8 case ?). Those were the two choices. We chose Wire because it had less letters. And it becomes a lot bigger on a poster. When you are like fifteen from the bill you got a short name. It gets bigger. As the poster Doctor & the Medics. Smaller on the bill Have listened to Web-tv, waste of time for doing this on TV, and recorded it. Colin mentioned he couldn't believe someone is taping this, but nevertheless. No news, Old cows ... we say in Holland. And much laughable. Will listen it tomorrow again. There is some food for thought. > > Fear is a mind-killer! > What is music? Free speech and more TV - -------- Einstuerzende Neubauten (www.neubauten.org) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 20:10:35 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: ot- Re: bishop's finger [idealcopy] Barbican - flag:Drinking In a message dated 3/11/03 3:51:00 AM, alistairtear@streetmanagement.org.uk writes: >Well it's in the City of London > >which, being the business area, > >most pubs close on Friday > >and stay shut over the weekend. ah, i get it. downtown manhattan (wall street area) used to be like that, but now so many people live in the financial district that it's pretty much like the rest of the city...never sleeps. - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 20:20:02 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Frequency/Rez In a message dated 3/11/03 2:41:13 PM, RLynn9@aol.com writes: >Crossbow and an early computer game called >Asylum (corker of a game that one)... i'm not familiar with either of these. are they around on the net nowadays? what were they like? - -paul (tempest rules) c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 21:07:31 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: sonic uncool... some self promotion > >>I have found out recently, there is some connection between IC and > Freemasonry.<< > > Blimey. Read that as "Idealcopy" and Freemasonry! > > So who's on the square then? Got your aprons ready for the Barbican. The Grand Inquisitor General> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 01:57:12 -0000 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] Bursacrap (Futile Rewind) >>>Hick hack attacks have gone on for as long as I've been onboard. (list yawns in conjunction, as the latest liar steps up to get his share) "Bursacrap," anyone? The phrase "Bursacrap" was originally coined by Mark Bursa himself. Bitsilli@aol.con really has proved himself a master of revisionist hypocrisy yet again. If he shuts the fuck up maybe he'll stop embarrassing himself? Next time he feels like slandering me, perhaps he could trawl the smoe archive and get his facts right as his memory is clearly a little faulty. Cracked Machine Highly Irregular Cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 02:05:11 -0000 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] Displaying an Interest in Landslides Hard Impact Enon lit up the night after a quick crosspennine trainride, but the day was illuminated by a Newman remix that harked back to the 2nd Length and posed the Dead Man question: isn't this what the Strokes should really be sounding like if they were worthy of the hype? Those art phag queerboys should ask Colin to bugger up their next set of lillylimpdick tunes, as on the evidence of Landslide its just the shot in the ass their leather clad weak-retro 70s butts are needin'. Cracked Machine Highly Irregular Cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine NP Dead Man Ray Landslide (Colin Newman remix) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 21:12:35 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] Re: Asylum & Crossbow games > >> >Crossbow>>>>> > > was an arcade game that had a crossbow that you held and fired against all > sorts of ghosts and witches and goblins and warriors.... > > and an early computer game called > >> >Asylum (corker of a game that one)...>>>> > > Asylum was an early computer role playing game ....you are trapped in an > asylum and have to investigate hallways and rooms to find keys and other > items to help you overtake guards or pick locks to get out...and of course > there are all sorts of guards and loonies trying to impede your > progress...the computer would offer up color graphics of each room (that > wasn't locked) and would ask you questions ...it was a great game that you > could spend hours at....oh yeah, and it was particularly funny when you > would type in ANY naughty word, a piano would fall from the ceiling and > crush you....thus you would lose all your items and have to start over... > > RL ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 21:13:52 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Immersed in Jelly Bore > > What is robyoungmuzak? Reference to the tastes of the editor of The Wire magazine. With whom Our Graeme obviously has some taste-related issues;-) Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 21:17:55 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Read & Zwan > >> We know Billy toured with New Order for a while, let's say Bruce > hurts his hand and...<< Now that would be more interesting the other way round - if Billy hurt his hand and Bruce played guitar in Zwan ;-) Billy Bob is far too trad rock for Wire. He'd stick solos in everywhere. It'd be as if George Gill never left! Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 19:24:31 -0700 From: "Paul Ye" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Read & Zwan >Now that would be more interesting the other way round - if Billy hurt his >hand and Bruce played guitar in Zwan ;-) Yes. Bruce in Zwan. On stage he would face the drummer and stay out of site! He would play the entire set with his only guitar (as of the last tour, a red one). Fun to dream eh? paulye154 >From: MarkBursa@aol.com >To: paulye154@hotmail.com >CC: idealcopy@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Read & Zwan >Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 21:17:55 EST > > > > > >> We know Billy toured with New Order for a while, let's say Bruce > > hurts his hand and...<< > >Now that would be more interesting the other way round - if Billy hurt his >hand and Bruce played guitar in Zwan ;-) > >Billy Bob is far too trad rock for Wire. He'd stick solos in everywhere. >It'd >be as if George Gill never left! > >Mark _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 21:25:39 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Immersed in Jelly Bore > >>I don't really know what Microhouse is.<< > > Obviously a new sub-genre of house. These are developed in laboratories > outside Chicago. Currently being worked on are other, vile, mutant strains: Doll's House Charnel House Fun House Grosvenor House Whore House Hector's House Brick Sh*t House Here's a House. Here's a Door. Windows. One. Two. Three. Four. Open House with Gloria Hunniford etc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 21:29:54 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: ot- Re: bishop's finger [idealcopy] Barbican - flag:Drinking > >>i'm just curious. what sort of place is it? what kind of neighborhood? the > > only food & drink establishments closed on saturdays here (that i know of) > are kosher.<< > > It's the City of London. Nobody lives there. Mon-Fri it's full of City > types blathering on about Share Prices, Pork Belly futures and Rugby. On > Saturday you's just get a couple of old Irishmen nursing a half of Murphy's > for three hours while reading the Racing Post. So they don't bother > opening. Shame, really. That kind of environment is the natural habitat of > the Wire member... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 21:32:44 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Rancid Battery Acid Fuel (Never Workin' for Clampdown) > The Snakes know "Rudie Can't Fail" and the positivity of their stripped raw > garage barrage could not be denied. Wow. And you didn't tell us that Robert was back handling "vocal chores" for his obviously reformed pub rock supergoup. Was Nick Garvey on bass? Did they play Teenage Head? Mark ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 21:13:49 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Displaying an Interest in Landslides Hard Impact isn't this what the Strokes should really be sounding like >if they were worthy of the hype? Those art phag queerboys geez, graeme, i know places in alabama & arkansas where you'd be right at home. dan ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V6 #73 ******************************