From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V6 #67 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Saturday, March 8 2003 Volume 06 : Number 067 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] sonic uncool ["dan bailey" ] Re: [idealcopy] OT: sonic uncool ["dan bailey" ] [idealcopy] i have cds to trade.. [RLynn9@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 19:14:09 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] sonic uncool whereas i own, um, every lp they've ever done except for the plagiarism release from 4 or so years ago & the new one. must be closing in on 20 albums in all -- most i've got by anyone other than the fall or (thanks to a proclivity for picking up bootlegs) the cure, i'm pretty sure. dan >>um...Keith? take it away...he mentioned Sparks >RL >I may have mentioned this before, but I saw Sparks way back in 1974 (on >Bonfire Night!). Excellent. I'm not a Sparks completist by any means - I've >only got about 4 of their albums - but I'm gonna have to look out for their >last album that was mentioned here recently (& was compared to Wire and Phil >Spector etc) > >Gotta give them credit. Who else from that period is still trying to do >something different with each album? > >Keith ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 19:16:56 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: sonic uncool speaking of whom, guess who gets name-checked in a response to my earlier post elsewhere wondering about phd? sounds like you should look into these guys, robert. to wit: >>Ph D wasn't as new wavish as Flock of Seagulls, Real Life, etc. Synth pop rather, more influenced by Roxy Music or 10cc than endebted to Ultravox or Depeche Mode. A studio project from keyboardist Tony Hymas, who since the 70s has played on numerous jazz-rock albums and could be considered a permanent member of Beck's backing band if the later ever felt like doing anything permanent (not that Beck, the UK Beck). Vocalist in Ph D was one Jim Diamond (not that Jim Diamond, but another brit, who has later worked with Tony Banks, Steve Hackett, Graham Lyle...). Ph D was nothing outstanding, but first eponymous album in 1981 includes I won't let you down which is a masterpiece in the genre and was a hit in some countries. Dispensable trivia, but since someone asked... << dan >when i was a kid, my favorite song in the whole world was "I'm Not in Love" >by 10CC ...which is as about as synth laden as you could get > >and i was constantly fidgeting with my cousin's Tangerine Dream >records...especially "Phaedra" > >Robert >np - Dictaphone - M.=addiction ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 21:18:25 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: sonic uncool << Vocalist in Ph D was one Jim Diamond (not that Jim Diamond, but another brit, who has later worked with Tony Banks, Steve Hackett, Graham Lyle...). >> Hell, how many Jim Diamonds are there? The PhD one is the same as the "I should have known better" one (look everyone! a Wire link!!)*, whose vocals are always brought to mind when I hear Richard bloody Ashcroft's MOR solo work. Mark * - not the same song, in case you were unfamiliar with Mr Diamond's "classic". ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 21:24:42 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] futre/human lg << & was intrigued to see a reference to a fast product classified ad, printed after the being boiled/circus of death 7" came out, "which promised fans to 'send us a tape & we'll fill it!'" can't tell from the context whether that offer included only human league demos (the liner notes say the 7" came from a demo tape that also featured, tantalizingly enough to me, toyota city) or other fast artists. given my fondness for everything i've heard on fast & pop: aural, i'm wondering if anyone out there responded to the above-described ad. << Sadloy not, but I wonder whether that was the source of a set of demos by the Scars that resides in my archive.... >>(i'm also wondering why in hell i can't find a copy of the expanded cd version of the fast product comp, but that's another story.) >> Never seen one - to what extent is it expanded? The vinyl includes all the Fast singles... is the extra stuff previously unreleased? Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 21:36:12 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: sonic uncool In a message dated 3/7/03 7:39:40 PM, keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: >one thing that synths had going for them in the 70's was that Queen didn't > >use them. > > > >'No Synths' they printed on their album sleeves. So what! > > > >And they still ended up using them. which resulted in their biggest hits, crazy little thing called love and another one bites the dust...at least until wayne's world resurrected bohemian rhapsody. - -another the paul p.s. yes, as a teen, i liked queen, but then i got with the scene, etiquette gun machine, do it clean, ......being sucked een...ageen :o) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 21:42:13 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: sonic uncool In a message dated 3/7/03 7:39:40 PM, keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: >one thing that synths had going for them in the 70's was that Queen didn't > >use them. > > > >'No Synths' they printed on their album sleeves. So what! > > > >And they still ended up using them. which resulted in their biggest hits, crazy little thing called love and another one bites the dust...at least until wayne's world resurrected bohemian rhapsody. - -another the paul p.s. yes, as a teen, i liked queen, but then i got with the scene, etiquette gun machine, do it clean, ......being sucked een...ageen :o) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 22:53:09 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: sonic uncool In a message dated 3/7/03 7:39:40 PM, keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: >one thing that synths had going for them in the 70's was that Queen didn't > >use them. > > > >'No Synths' they printed on their album sleeves. So what! > > > >And they still ended up using them. which resulted in their biggest hits, crazy little thing called love and another one bites the dust...at least until wayne's world resurrected bohemian rhapsody. - -another the paul p.s. yes, as a teen, i liked queen, but then i got with the scene, etiquette gun machine, do it clean, ......being sucked een...ageen :o) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 23:03:47 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] it's not my fault... ...as my mac likes to say. sorry about the triple post. blame aol. anyway, to keep things on topic... does anyone know if we have to have anything special on our puters in order to hear (see?) colin on webtv? has anyone seen one of these shows before? what's it like? why is the sky blue? are we there yet? - -paul c.d. n.p. queen - the game just kidding, i'm really listening to picastro ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 22:48:47 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] future/human lg >>>(i'm also wondering why in hell i can't find a copy of the expanded cd >version of the fast product comp, but that's another story.) >> > >Never seen one - to what extent is it expanded? The vinyl includes all the >Fast singles... is the extra stuff previously unreleased? > >Mark don't think so ... if memory serves, it includes some pop: aural (which i believe bob last began after his fast days) artists like the fire engines (by whom i have only the new gold dream 12", or whatever it's called ... come to think of it, wasn't that a simple minds lp? perhaps my memory's off today), boots for dancing, etc. dan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 00:06:53 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: [idealcopy] i have cds to trade.. hello everyone...i am clearing out some doubles i have...i am going to post them on ebay eventually but i thought i would offer them to listmembers first...i would gladly accept a decent trade,..so make me an offer...all cds are complete with inserts and booklets unless otherwise noted here is the list: Barry Adamson - As Above So Below (Mute) Another Fine Day - Life Before Land (Beyond Records RBADCD7) Aurobindo (Darren Seymour of Seefeel & Mark Van Hoen aka Locust)- Involution (Ash International Ash2.4 cd) Azonic (Bill Laswell & Andy Hawkins) - Halo (Subharmonic) comes in cool black cd case B12 - 3ep cd ep (Warp WAP102cd) Black Dog - Spanners (Warp/East West) Biosphere - Cirque (Touch TO:46) Harold Budd/Simon Raymonde/Robin Guthrie/Elizabeth Fraser - The Moon and the Melodies (4AD CAD611CD) Harold Budd - By the Dawn's Early Light (Opal) John Came - Systems/Atmospherics - Rhythmicon (Mute CDSTUMM140) Chris and Cosey - Allotropy (Staalplaat ST CD 002) Coil - Unnatural History (Threshold House LOCI CD2) Coil - How to Destroy Angels (Threshold House LOCI CD5) Carl Craig - More Songs About Food and Revolutionary Art (Planet E PE65232) Current 93 - Island (World Serpent/Durtro 002 cd) Cypher 7 (Bill Laswell & Jeff Bova & Alex Haas) - Decoder (Subharmonic) comes in cool black case Drum Club - Drums are Dangerous (Butterfly/Big Life/Instinct ex.286.2) The Durutti Column - Another Setting (Factory/London) Electronic Eye (Richard H. Kirk) - The Idea of Justice (Beyond/C&S) FUSE (Richie Hawtin) - Dimension Intrusion (Warp/+8/Wax Trax!) FUSE (Richie Hawtin) - Train-Tracs cd ep (Warp/+8/Wax Trax) The Future Sound of London - Lifeforms double cd(Astralwerks/Virgin/Jumpin' & Pumpin') Geeez 'n' Gosh (Atom Heart) - My Life With Jesus (Mille Plateaux MP 90) Global Communication - 76:14 (Dedicated DEDcd014) Goldie - Saturnzreturn double cd (FFRR) La Dusseldorf - Dusseldorf Entropica - Sonic Bloom Entropica Prolifica ( Freezone SSR 132) The Gregory Fleckner Quintet - Monkey Boots (Clear CLR419cd) these did not come with front inserts...CLEAR label ...get it? Martin Gore (of Depeche Mode) -Counterfeit ep (Mute/Sire) The Harmonic Choir (feat. David Hykes) - Hearing Solar Winds (Ocora) still sealed! He Said (Graham Lewis of Wire) - Take.Care (Mute/Enigma CDSTUMM57) The Heavenly Music Corporation (Kim Cascone)- In a Garden of Eden (Silent) still sealed! Larry Heard (aka Mr. Fingers/Fingers Inc) -Dance 2000 (Distance) Higher Intelligence Agency - Free Floater (Waveform) Holger Hiller - Holger Hiller (Mute CDSTUMM109) Immersion (Colin Newman of Wire & Malka Spigel of Minimal Compact) - Low Impact 2 cds (Swim Wm12) Jedi Knights (aka Global Communication) -The New School Science (Universal Language EVO042PCD) promo cd..NO artwork or inserts...just cd and jewel case Locust (Mark Van Hoen) - Truth Is Born of Arguments (Apollo/R&S/Rough Trade) Anthony Manning - Islets in Pink Polypropelene (Irdial Discs 54 ird aev 2) Christian Marclay & Otomo Yoshihide - Moving Parts (Asphodel) Russell Mills/Undark - Pearl & Umbra (Bella Union/Instinct/Em:t) Model 500 (Juan Atkins) - Classics (R&S 931CD) No-man - Loveblows & Lovecries-A Confession (One Little Indian) OCSID (Graham Lewis of Wire/CM Von Hausswolf/Jean Lewis Huhta)- Opening Sweep (Ash International Ash 5.1) Plaid - Undoneson/Spudnik/Headspin cd ep (Warp WAP95CD) Plastikman (Richie Hawtin)- Sheet One (Novamute/+8) NO front insert..just back insert and jewel case R.I.C. (Biochip C.) - Distance (Mille Plateaux/Force Inc.) Scorn - White Irises Blind (Earache Mosh175cd) Scorn - Deliverance (Earache Mosh176cd) include a trilogy of Andrew Weatherall/Sabres of Paradise mixes of Exodus Seefeel - Polyfusia (Astralwerks/Too Pure) Seefeel - Starethrough EP (Warp WAP45CD) Speedy J - Loudboxer (Novamute) promo ..NO front insert Suicide - American Supreme (Blast First/Mute) Tangerine Dream - Phaedra (Virgin CDV 2010) Rafael Toral - Violence of Discovery and Calm of Acceptance (TOUCH TO:48) Renegade Soundwave - Biting My Nails/Kray Twins/Cocaine Sex cd ep (Enigma/Mute) Renegade Soundwave - Howyadoin? (Mute/Elektra) Siouxsie & the Banshees - The Peel Sessions 12/5/1977 cd ep (Strange Fruit) Two Lone Swordsmen (Andrew Weatherall & Keith Tenniswood) - A Bag of Blue Sparks cd ep (WARP WAP 106) U-Ziq - Lunatic Harness (Astralwerks/Hut/Planet U) promo..no front insert Robert Wyatt - Mid-Eighties (Gramavision) The Young Gods - Only Heaven (interscope) v/a - Behind the Eye - an Eye Q compilation v/a- Macro Dub Infection Volume One double cd (includes Coil/Laika/Tortoise/Wagon Christ/Scorn/Bandulu/Tricky/The Mad Professor/Spring Heel Jack) v/a - WARP Records 10+1 "Influences" double cd celebrating the labels 10 year anniversary...includes great old school techno influences..classic tracks by: Adonis/Mr. Fingers/808 State/A Guy Called Gerald/Model 500/Rhythim is Rhythim/Phuture v/a V Classic Volume 1 & 2 featuring DJ Krust/Goldie/Lemon D/Ray Keith/Dillinjah/Roni Size v/a Tone Tales From Tommorrow (Ninja Tune/NTONE cd5) includes tracks by Coldcut/Drome/Hex/Nonplace Urban Field in a 60 minute ambient mix by Coldcut v/a Boredom is Deep and Mysterious (April Records APR001cd) thanks for looking.. Robert ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V6 #67 ******************************