From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V6 #35 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Thursday, February 6 2003 Volume 06 : Number 035 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] radio 6 ["John Roberts" ] [idealcopy] Re: you've lost that loving feeling pt 2 ["Syarzhuk Kazachenk] [idealcopy] OT - about music download [Woerner Frank-Juergen ] [idealcopy] Unbelievable ["Jan Noorda" ] [idealcopy] has anyone heard from........ [Ari Britt ] Re: [idealcopy] Unbelievable [rayographique ] Re: [idealcopy] Unbelievable [MarkBursa@aol.com] RE: [idealcopy] I did warn you! ["Tim" ] RE: [idealcopy] I did warn you! [rayographique ] [idealcopy] apologies [rayographique ] [idealcopy] way OT: Bags (was I did warn you!) [Monochromatic Man Subject: Re: [idealcopy] radio 6 Hi This link looks to be the one that you'll need if you're planning on downloading this session: rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/6music/dreamticket_thu.ra Cheers John http://www.captive.co.uk/bocca/ >From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com >To: steeleknight@lineone.net, idealcopy@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [idealcopy] radio 6 >Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 17:43:55 EST > >wire set was from camber sands 2000 ; > >advantage in height >40 versions >lowdown >boiling boy > >and very good it was too.............p _________________________________________________________________ Overloaded with spam? With MSN 8, you can filter it out http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=32&DI=1059 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 09:47:25 -0500 From: "Syarzhuk Kazachenka" Subject: [idealcopy] Re: you've lost that loving feeling pt 2 >as my unreliable source also informs me that Eric >Clapton will be subject of an early morning raid for >offences against the guitar. Tell me George Harrison's guitar gently wept for the same reason! Syarzhuk Be healthy, stay wealthy... Visit Belarusan Music Source - http://www.belmusic.net _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 16:17:18 +0100 From: Woerner Frank-Juergen Subject: [idealcopy] OT - about music download > -----Original Message----- > From: Ari Britt [mailto:luvjazzz@yahoo.com] > Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 12:06 PM > To: idealcopy@smoe.org > Subject: [idealcopy] Fwd: Re: [Shriekback_Digital_Conspiracy] Aaron > wrote/Wired.com news > > > Anyone know 'bout this? > > Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 19:45:34 -0800 (PST) > Subject: Re: [Shriekback_Digital_Conspiracy] Aaron > wrote/Wired.com news > > > --- Ari Britt wrote: > > which is exactly why people no longer buy c.d's in the volume > > they used to,when will the labels (re)learn that we don't > > want to pay for an album that has only one or two good trax on > > them??????/Ari > > ---they go to places like WinMX and d/l only the songs they > want. I just read on wired.com that folks in the European > markets (predominantly in the UK, France, and Germany) are > starting to get billed for "peer to peer" music downloads > without their prior knowledge...has this happenned to anyone?? Not yet ... might get expensive for me. regards, FrankfromBavaria ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 19:39:51 -0000 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] Pure Blind Sun Masochism (Times Four Stopping) >>>I'm going on 9 Feb and on current thinking will be leaving after the Spree so that my happy thoughts are not impaired by this load of retrograde, lumpen bollocks. Interpol and The Thrills also on the bill but fortunately earlier. I don't get it... The Datsuns sound no more retro than any of these other shitty bands. If I was being charitable I guess I could use the word 'mediocre' to describe any or all of them. The eNMEy tour is always pretty desperate, isn't it? But all this Datsuns slaggery is nothing more than music snobbery, and all bands being equal, that can't be tolerated on Ideal Copy! And if they really are so dull, retro, lumpy, frumpy, bumpy & BORE, wouldn't we be better off just ignoring them and getting on with the PROPER FACTS of WIRE At least John Cage had a couple of memorable jokes! Remesmer was not one of them, but that didn't stop Dolf Datsun. Eric Klaver made a massed deduction from the SOLI stockpiles but servant of government warmonger says he lies. I'd rather hang road furniture on the door for a Pram & Tele:funken show! Meanwhile a Citizen of Elgaland-Vargaland has announced the following proclamation "In the Land of the Blind, One-Eyed is King" seemingly an apt summation of those who'd need eNMEy to lead 'em by the nose... but surely nothing so crass could have crossed the pure driven mind of Mika Vainio when he made these exquisite excursions into sonic minimism which will appeal to Domeheads & Heavy Gilbertoids throughout the Twin Kingdoms. Here's something more relevant: In the Art of Stopping appears as the opening track on send. But is it the alternate mix that Colin played in his ATP DJ set? "With Surgical Focus!" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 19:45:35 -0000 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] Prim and Efficient to a Norman Just Waiting... >>>They haven't billed my credit card but I'm still waiting to hear the new Fall single. This is the first time I've used Rough Trade believe it or not and it will be the last. (meanwhile there's a 24 hr clock watch on, crows feet engraved - moron is waiting for U2 to come on MTV again) The Fall! Tape it off Peel!! Don't buy records they just spend yer greenbacks on crack, man!!! I've always found Norman Records of Leeds to be a very efficient mail order outlet. Last Week they said, "Now those Whiskey's we've been promising you. First up the Left Hand/Bloodless Coup one. Left Hand do a discordant droney thingamejig which is both unsettling and enjoyable. Reminds me a bit of Wire or the Wolfhounds." Them bands keep strummin' keep strummin' keep strummin' those fuckin' guitars! Meanwhile in last Friday'ds update, they were also flogging these goodies 12" Gilbert, Bruce Ovo Mix pic disc on Mute from 1996, 12MUTE132 5.95 12" Gilbert, Bruce & Ron West Frequency Variations Sahko whiet label & press sheet 4.95 If you haven't heard the Ovo Mix 12" you are probably either a lame ass mofo or Colin Newman! Go buy it now foolish reader and finally justify your sorry existation! Few things are better than Ovo Mix! Norman Recs weekly email updates also tend to be Kurious entertaining reading, compared to the fairly tedious hype/pr of boomkat & piccadilly records (hidden behind the large red tomato in lancashire's northern western quarter, post-moderninity, what it means to roll it around). Norman Records/ Jonathon Whiskey http://www.normanrecords.com Unit 1, Armley Park Court Stanningley Road Leeds, LS12 2AE United Kingdom Tel/Fax: UK 0113 231 1114 (I was soon become mentally ill and deviant but after a 12 step pogrom involving no fibre Fall diet, I ate myself fitter and and and this is for yer this is for yer) Normans are also listing a.. Wire- Send CD on Pink Flag due late Feb 11.95 But best buy from pe or either a) cn will send round the post-heavythings, or b) you will miss the 'chicago, yesterday' disc NP Mika Vainio - In the Land of the Blind One-Eyed is King (www.touch.demon.co.uk/releases/TO54.html) The Rhoda Head looks like a Curtain! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 19:46:00 -0000 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] I did warn you! Up to Dat Sun Thy Rioting Jaundice Shall Go >>>Aren't you going to see them very soon with the Polyphonic Spree? Should be an interesting mix in the audience. On the left: rockers into retro crap (with Bollocks) On the right: folk who dig retro pap (with No Bollocks) All will be allowed entry to THE BAR in the name of the prophet, the sung and the wholly gross ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 00:56:49 +0100 From: "Jan Noorda" Subject: [idealcopy] Unbelievable Noticed already Gemm.com someone is offering the Wire- Send cd 45,39 BPND. Unbelievable price. Also Wire - Take a Terrifying trip to the past 7" Also The Selves - Feeling called love 7" Maybe someone of you know these recordings. I haven't heard of these items before. What to say unbelievable price. A week ago someone was offering on ebay for the Hafler Trio - Handwave cd about 265 US Dollar. Maybe a little late but I have missed in the several lists record of the year 2002. Dictaphone: M=Addiction It really is a nice record. And of course contributions from Colin and Malka. Also another list did get my attention. Vera-Groningen favourite concerts last year. Wire on place 24. Prong on 1. Unbelievable. My latest Mika Vainio - In the land of the Blind One-eyed is King Hafler Trio - Chanson Dada ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 16:21:29 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] has anyone heard from........ .......Bart since he moved? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 17:08:13 -0800 (PST) From: rayographique Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Unbelievable - --- Jan Noorda wrote: ... > > What to say unbelievable price. A week ago someone > was offering on ebay for > the Hafler Trio - Handwave cd about 265 US Dollar. of which al the proceeds save postage go to literally prolonging andrew mackenzie's life > Maybe a little late but I have missed in the several > lists record of the year > 2002. Dictaphone: M=Addiction > It really is a nice record. And of course > contributions from Colin and Malka. indeed Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 20:53:12 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Unbelievable Jan > Also Wire - Take a Terrifying trip to the past 7" It's a bootleg - the first four live tracks from Montreux 79 - Another the letter, Practice makes perfect, 2 people in a room, I feel mysterious today. Most of the gig is available on the Dominoe bootleg. Heartbeat from the same gig is of course on D&E. A second 7in boot from the same gig exists - called Live in London 78! This has Question of degree, Mercy, Blessed state and Heartbeat. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 02:33:00 -0000 From: "Tim" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] I did warn you! > >>>Aren't you going to see them very soon with the Polyphonic > Spree? Should > be > an interesting mix in the audience. > > On the left: rockers into retro crap (with Bollocks) > > On the right: folk who dig retro pap (with No Bollocks) And elsewhere, no doubt attending some other event of far greater cultural magnitude....sanctimonious fanzine writers (Who of course, carry their bollocks around in a carrier bag. Thats an Aldi carrier bag, turned inside-out so as not to give free advertising to fucked-up supermarket bastards. Only they know, (and *only* they know), that they have better bollocks than anyone, although their earlier bollocks were the best before other people got hold of them and made them famous.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 19:32:48 -0800 (PST) From: rayographique Subject: RE: [idealcopy] I did warn you! you have Aldi stores too? very working class, actually unemployed class here for the most part [wonderful grape juice, tho] - --- Tim wrote: > > >>>Aren't you going to see them very soon with the > Polyphonic > > Spree? Should > > be > > an interesting mix in the audience. > > > > On the left: rockers into retro crap (with > Bollocks) > > > > On the right: folk who dig retro pap (with No > Bollocks) > > > And elsewhere, no doubt attending some other event > of far greater cultural > magnitude....sanctimonious fanzine writers (Who of > course, carry their > bollocks around in a carrier bag. Thats an Aldi > carrier bag, turned > inside-out so as not to give free advertising to > fucked-up supermarket > bastards. Only they know, (and *only* they know), > that they have better > bollocks than anyone, although their earlier > bollocks were the best before > other people got hold of them and made them famous.) Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 19:37:55 -0800 (PST) From: rayographique Subject: [idealcopy] apologies for the preceeding troll i just couldn't resist [but will practice restraint in the future] anyways anyone so inclined should really check out the eBay auctions in Andrew h3o MacKenzie's behalf a very good cause, and some very rare stuff also there's a message , looking for programming work it would be wonderful if someone could send something his way (and this is peripherally ONtopic as of the wir remix, eh?) Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 20:21:19 -0800 (PST) From: Monochromatic Man Subject: [idealcopy] way OT: Bags (was I did warn you!) I did a graphics job for Aldi a few years back. They seem to be a real shite operation. From what I remember they charge for grocery bags. How could those fanzine writers afford them? Billy - --- rayographique wrote: > you have Aldi stores too? > very working class, actually unemployed class here > for > the most part > [wonderful grape juice, tho] > --- Tim wrote: > > > >>>Aren't you going to see them very soon with > the > > Polyphonic > > > Spree? Should > > > be > > > an interesting mix in the audience. > > > > > > On the left: rockers into retro crap (with > > Bollocks) > > > > > > On the right: folk who dig retro pap (with No > > Bollocks) > > > > > > And elsewhere, no doubt attending some other event > > of far greater cultural > > magnitude....sanctimonious fanzine writers (Who of > > course, carry their > > bollocks around in a carrier bag. Thats an Aldi > > carrier bag, turned > > inside-out so as not to give free advertising to > > fucked-up supermarket > > bastards. Only they know, (and *only* they know), > > that they have better > > bollocks than anyone, although their earlier > > bollocks were the best before > > other people got hold of them and made them > famous.) > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up > now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com ===== /\ /\ /\ { o _ o }  \ _--_ / --Try it now! ) GWS Ltd http://www.fortunecity.com/uproar/mental/111/ Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. 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