From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V6 #26 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Tuesday, January 28 2003 Volume 06 : Number 026 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Good God ["Fergus Kelly" ] [idealcopy] Mission Of Burma @ Echo Lounge, Atlanta, GA ["Jason Rogers"] [idealcopy] 'ode to joy' tour [Alistair Tear ] Re: [idealcopy] Mission Of Burma @ Echo Lounge, Atlanta, GA ["dan baile] Re: [idealcopy] Good God ["dan bailey" ] [idealcopy] Bargain Bin ["Tim" ] [idealcopy] Non-stop Wire. ["Bill Hick" ] [idealcopy] Wire & Laika [Paul Pietromonaco ] Re: [idealcopy] Wire & Laika [Aaron Mandel ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 10:12:49 +0000 From: "Fergus Kelly" Subject: [idealcopy] Good God Anyone seen the Brazilian film, 'City Of God '? I'd highly recommend it. Words like 'tour de force' get bandied about all too easily, but in this instance it really applies. Here's a great example of form and content meshing perfectly. It follows the lives of various kids from the ghettos who are involved with guns and drug dealing. You may think: guns, drugs, yeah yeah... but the story is told in a way that just drags you along by the scruff of the neck for most of the time. The camerawork is quite frenetic sometimes. My only (slight) problem was keeping up with the subtitles while the images were moving so fast. The story is told in voiceover, introducing the different charachters at various points along the way. You find yourself getting quite involved. It's played by non-actors mostly (ghetto kids), so it certainly doesn't feel 'acted'. In fact, it's more like a documentary. Whilst it does lean on certain cinematic conventions recognisable from other violent films, it does so in a completely relevant and non-gratuitous way. It is by turns brutal, invigourating, harrowing, ecstatic, funny, shocking. Go see. Fergus "Take a chance and step outside" _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:17:28 +0000 From: "Jason Rogers" Subject: [idealcopy] Mission Of Burma @ Echo Lounge, Atlanta, GA Mission Of Burma will be playing at Echo Lounge here in Atlanta on February 20. Since most Wire fans I've talked to around here also happen to be Mission Of Burma fans, I decided to give all of you a heads-up in case anyone is interested. MOB is playing at the same venue that Wire played at here; Echo Lounge is definitely conducive to this type of rock. If any of you plan to attend this show, let me know and maybe we can meet up beforehand for barbeque or something. Jason P.S.: This is a stupid question, yes, but how does one pronouce "Einst|rzende Neubauten"? Everyone seems to have a different way of pronoucing it and I plead ignorance to a fault. _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:52:43 -0000 From: Alistair Tear Subject: [idealcopy] 'ode to joy' tour Caught Jah Wobble / Philip Jeck @ Cargo on Friday and thought I'd write and say it's well worth seeing if they come your way... Various musicians performing around the Wobble / Jeck / Sanders(drums) axis... Though personally I coulda done with less from Molam Lao (from Laos, playing Molam, strangely) who were a bit lost in the thunderous mix. all in all, a good night out. And, amazingly, a mere five pounds. Very tenuous Wire link...visuals were by Marc Atkins, known for his work with Iain Sinclair (M25) http://www.30hertzrecords.com/live.htm later A p.s. for Jason...ein - as in nine stur - as in stoor zen - as in buddhism de - duh neu - as in boy bau - as in bow-wow-wow ten - hope that helps ;-/ ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Transport for London Street Management hereby excludes any warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of this e-mail and any attached transmitted files. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify postmaster@Streetmanagement.org.uk. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 08:01:38 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: How to say Einsturzende Neubauten Jason > >>P.S.: This is a stupid question, yes, but how does one pronouce > "Einst|rzende Neubauten"? Everyone seems to have a different way of > pronoucing it and I plead ignorance to a fault.<< > Ine-shtert-sender Noy-bow-tun That's Ine as in Wine and Bow as in the front of a ship ;-) The u-umlaut has an ue-sound. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 17:33:33 +0100 From: "fredtabois" Subject: [none] Nice try Mark, but it is actually pronounced as : Ine-shtoortsunnde-noy-bow-tunn - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT: How to say Einsturzende Neubauten > Jason > > > >>P.S.: This is a stupid question, yes, but how does one pronouce > > "Einst|rzende Neubauten"? Everyone seems to have a different way of > > pronoucing it and I plead ignorance to a fault.<< > > > > Ine-shtert-sender Noy-bow-tun > > That's Ine as in Wine and Bow as in the front of a ship ;-) The u-umlaut has > an ue-sound. > > Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 22:31:03 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Mission Of Burma @ Echo Lounge, Atlanta, GA count me in, assuming (as is likely) that i'm still in the vicinity. i'm pretty sure (another the) dan rose is planning on showing up, too. dan >Mission Of Burma will be playing at Echo Lounge here in Atlanta on February >20. Since most Wire fans I've talked to around here also happen to be >Mission Of Burma fans, I decided to give all of you a heads-up in case >anyone is interested. MOB is playing at the same venue that Wire played at >here; Echo Lounge is definitely conducive to this type of rock. > >If any of you plan to attend this show, let me know and maybe we can meet up >beforehand for barbeque or something. > > >Jason > >P.S.: This is a stupid question, yes, but how does one pronouce >"Einst|rzende Neubauten"? Everyone seems to have a different way of >pronoucing it and I plead ignorance to a fault. > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 22:34:19 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Good God >Anyone seen the Brazilian film, 'City Of God '? I'd highly recommend it. >Words like 'tour de force' get bandied about all too easily, not down heah in the southern us of a ... folks assume you're talking about that long bicycle race over in france or somewheres. dan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 00:21:29 -0000 From: "Tim" Subject: [idealcopy] Bargain Bin You know when you browse through second hand shops, and the same records come up again and again?....here they are: http://tv.cream.org/recordshop.htm I'm sure readers have their own favourites. When I was in Liverpool, the complete works of Chicago seem to be in every shop, and mountains of the Roger Waters 'The Wall Live' LP.... And of course, Wire fans will be familiar with anything by Wire Train...and theres a shitty looking CD by a band called 'Wir' that isn't our Wire, called Landomat or something that has been in Vinyl Exchange in Manchester for years..... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 21:50:50 -0000 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] Non-stop Wire. WIRE music before Flaming Lips gig >>>Is there a compilation that runs Swimmer/Fly/Mysterious amongst others? Not an officially released one Most people in bands have figured out how to use tape recorders by the time they go on tour! Wayne Coyne is one cool mofo! It was probably his tape Cracked Machine Highly Irregular Cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 19:02:20 -0800 From: Paul Pietromonaco Subject: [idealcopy] Wire & Laika Hi everyone, I picked up the new Laika compilation "Lost In Space" yesterday. I guess this came out in the U.S. a little earlier than in the U.K. (Amazon UK says it should be out in England today...) On the second disc, they've included their cover of Wire's German Shepherds, and there's a small note about it: 7/German Shepherds (cover version) This is the only cover version we have ever done. It is likely to be the only we ever will have done. We never got paid for it and it ended up on a record charmingly entitled "Whore". But we love Wire. We chose the track because Guy remembered it fondly from when he moved from Bath to London to get a job in a recording studio - walkman on head, CV and A-Z in hand - spending days on the Tube travelling from one studio to another. Guy likes the contrast of Margaret's vocie and Wire's suitably obscure lyric references to "two dogs fucking with a man on the end" and "a drunk old lady pissing in a bin". He has a point. We recorded this track, along with "Looking for the Jackalope", at our friends Sharon & Craig's apartment on East 4th Street in NYC when we cat-sat their black cat Midnight while they were off on tour. We ate a lot of soup from the 24-hour Ukrainian diner. Cheers, Paul *********************************************************** Brain: "Pinky, Are You Pondering What I'm Pondering?" Pinky: "I think so Brain, but can the gummy worms really live in peace with the marshmallow chips?" Paul Pietromonaco Test Engineer - Reflection X WRQ, Inc. E-Mail: paulp@wrq.com *********************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 00:38:36 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Wire & Laika On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Paul Pietromonaco wrote: > 7/German Shepherds (cover version) > > This is the only cover version we have ever done. It is likely to be > the only we ever will have done. We never got paid for it and it ended > up on a record charmingly entitled "Whore". Never stopped to think and see this might be offensive if taken literally - -- I had heard (or read in an interview?) that it was intended as "Who're" opposed to "Why're". Who are they? Why are they making that racket? Etc. a ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V6 #26 ******************************