From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V6 #4 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Monday, January 6 2003 Volume 06 : Number 004 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Fw: Brittle Heaven News & Updates ["Keith Astbury" ] Re: [idealcopy] The Red and the Black (See You Oyster) [MarkBursa@aol.com] [idealcopy] C4 Salon Advert ["Uri Baran" ] Re: [idealcopy] comic origins? ["dan bailey" ] [idealcopy] Bill wrote..... [Ari Britt ] [idealcopy] MZUI [kevin eden ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 17:16:38 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] Fw: Brittle Heaven News & Updates > Let me first wish all of you and your family a very happy NEW YEAR and I hope that year 2003 will bring in peace, happiness and prosperity for all. > > I'm currently working on a complete new updated version of the Brittle Heaven website and want to include a gallery of (live) pictures of The Sound & Adrian Borland's live perfomances during the 80's and 90's. If you have any pictures or other material that you'd like to share with other fans then please email them to update@brittleheaven.com > > Thanking you for your help in advance. > > best regards, > Rients Bootsma (RiBo) > ============================== ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 18:12:13 -0000 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] MILES AWAY - The Yeah Yeah Yeahs But their peel session showed that the best is yet to come Maps & Why Control? are even better how can you go wrong with a song that sounds like the bastard spawn of Passing Complexion & Drunken Butterfly & a singer who sounds like Dolly Parton w/ a vibrator up her Pussy Galore? They tour UK Feb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 18:17:07 -0000 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] The Red and the Black (See You Oyster) >>>i must note that, "no gods no masters" tattoo from my anarcho days or not, No God is also a fine instrumental from Band of Susans and a philosophical concept which one could argue the last century hinged, although 99.9 per cent of the human race seem slow to catch on. Does the road ahead look quite uncertain? >>>i bow too much to tradition to regard the "read & burns" as anything other than ep's, They are more like 6 track mini-albums (digital missives from the margins) Pulsating Symmetry >>>though come to think of it each is longer than the circle jerks' & angry samoans' debuts way back when. 02 is also longer than the 10 song 80s Matchbox Dog Doo Dah bands CD (imagine a less interesting Birthday Party fronted by Shakin' Stevens). As for hints of anarchy, by chance (?) my 2 most played long players had the anarcho-colours RED Cities (Chris Brokaw) godspeed you! BLACK emperor Both are completely instrumental proof of guitars as deep emotional gateways out there beyond Do you realise that we are now post-moderninity? "Man has a wooden master" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 18:24:56 -0000 From: "Bill Hick" Subject: [idealcopy] Mack's Rotation >>>joy zipper - s/t [i think this one came out last year but it's still in heavy rotation] I had a CD-R of their 'Ron' single which bored me. I found it a bit drippy. It might appeal to shoegazer fans? Anyone can have it if they send me their address. You ask if anyone gives a shit about what you were listening to... maybe if they do, they'll be intrigued enough to want to hear Joy Zipper? I found David Mack's list to be the only one that featured music I'd never heard of, which is always welcome. Michael Flaherty reminded me of a few albums that I'd missed that I'm very likely to enjoy when I do finally hear them. Perhaps the main point of these end of year lists is that there is so much music to hear that you're always going to miss some good stuff. >>>buffalo daughter - i [marvelous, fabulous] Picked up a shrinkwrapped copy of this for just a quid. After one play it didn't do much for me but at least they sound nothing much like any other band. I'll give it another spin one of these days. I have a feeling it might grow under the right conditions... >>>david grubbs - rickets and scurvy [mr grubbs has an uncanny feel for the edge of what constitutes a song] This could easily have been on my list as well. Grubbs played here a few months back and it was an entrancing if rather short set. The drummer in his band was that inventive that he could've done a solo set and been fascinating. This album is much better than his previous Spectrum Between and so much better than Jim O'Rourke's Insignificance. Speaking of Jim did that Mego CD come out last year or the year before? That was one of the best things he's done if not the very best. Looks like I also forgot such fine discs as Faust - Freispiel (best remix album ever) Neubauten - Brussells 2000 Guided By Voices - Universal Truths Nurse With Wound - The Man With The Woman Face Joseph Nothing - Dreamland Idle Orchestra Stray Light - Careers Add N to X - Loud Like Nature Phantomsmasher Noxagt Giddy Motors - Make It Pop Jackie O Motherfucker - Change Jackie O Motherfucker / Vibracathedral Orchestra split LP Jackie O 7" (not to be confused w/ aforementioned Motherfucker band) Autechre - Gantz Graf Suicide - American Supreme Goldchains - I Come From San Francisco Flaming Lips - Funeral in my Head Granpaboy - Mono / Stereo High Dependency Unit - Fireworks Rachel's - Significant Others Breeders - Title TK Rhodes - War Day 7" (a grower) Butthole Surfers - Humpty Dumpty LSD (and probably many more) As for CD-R releases Cousin Silas - Lilliput www.fflintcentral.co.uk Best Cover Version Melt Banana walk it (no contest) with their hyper-hilarious speedy assault on Toots & the Maytells Monkey Man. Most played oldie? Killing Joke - Extremeties, Dirt & Various Repressed Emotions Best books read Thomas Pynchon - Gravity's Rainbow Richard Meltzer - The Aesthetics of Rock Cracked Machine Highly Irregular Cyberzine http://www.webinfo.co.uk/crackedmachine NP WIRE ~ Read Level Eddie Burn Trip 12XU (The ICA Drill Spell) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 13:51:30 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] The Red and the Black (See You Oyster) > >>02 is also longer than the 10 song 80s Matchbox Dog Doo Dah bands CD > (imagine > a less interesting Birthday Party fronted by Shakin' Stevens).<< Gallon Drunk? Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 19:24:32 -0000 From: "Uri Baran" Subject: [idealcopy] C4 Salon Advert I'm positive that I just heard Fischerspooner's version of the 15th used to advertise a new C4 series called Salon. Wonder how much the royalties are? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 01:47:37 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] comic origins? is burns the guy who does big baby? been meaning to check his stuff out big-time. ditto for clowes ... i do have a lloyd lewellen collection of his. not familiar with the other guys. i've basically been comics-poor since selling my collection for a whopping $350 (x-men #2! spider-man #14! journey into mystery #90! *sob*) or so back in the summer of '81 to help finance my move to arizona to go to grad school. had actually stopped buying them about 2 1/2 years earlier when the price per copy skyrocketed to *gasp* 40 cents. dan >In a message dated 1/3/03 5:37:55 PM Central Standard Time, >dpbailey@worldnet.att.net writes: > ><< (yep, comics are one of the myriad subcultural > obsessions i've indulged in over the years . >> > >keep fighting the good fight Dan! have you ever checked out any of Charles >Burns, Jim Woodring, Ted McKeever, Paul Pope, Chris Ware, or Dan Clowes stuff? > >Robert ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 15:06:59 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] Bill wrote..... ........."Man has a wooden master" i would say man has no master but himself and his own supersticious fears...........I have no master............except my own logic..........Ari On a long enough time line the survival rate for all of us drops to zero.'from Fight Club' Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 23:37:28 -0800 (PST) From: kevin eden Subject: [idealcopy] MZUI Must have missed the news of MZUI being released around March. Anyway, yours truly involved in that providing extra images and sleeve notes. The CD is direct reproduction of LP... no extra material. WMO will be stocking this item so watch this space. kevin eden e-mail: wmouk@yahoo.com web: www.wireviews.com "dreams that money can buy" Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V6 #4 *****************************