From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V5 #433 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Tuesday, December 31 2002 Volume 05 : Number 433 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] Vinyl Transmission 02 ["Keith Astbury" ] [idealcopy] That was 2002 that was ["Tim" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 13:06:40 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Vinyl Transmission 02 > >>Worst Single Bought > > Mclusky - Alan is a Cowboy Killer > (bland shite; at least it was only a quid)<< > > Great title though :-) My sentiment exactly, Mark. Still haven't heard this, but I have looked for it because of... a) I liked their single before so much and b) it's called Alan is a Cowboy Killer! > Not heard the single - but McLusky live do what CoF seem to be trying to > achieve with a lot more focus, though I was hardly bowled over by either > band. Wasn't so keen on the other tracks on the To Hell... e.p. at first, but though not as good as the lead track, there's a couple of growers there... Keith NP White Lines - Grandmaster & Melle Mel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 23:04:32 -0000 From: "Mark McQuitty" Subject: [idealcopy] Saturdays Guardian Anyone see this? The Guide section of Saturdays Guardian had an article about party playlists chosen by various music-types. Johnny Marr included as track 1 in his list, Envelope by Immersion! Certainly caused me to do a double-take! Respect due Johnny! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:06:27 +0000 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: [idealcopy] Listmaking for Fun and Profit (was Re: Vinyl Transmission 02) On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 02:34:58PM -0000, Bill Hick wrote: > godspeed you! black emperor - Yanqui UXO Gonna buy this soon, probably tomorrow... My albums, in no particular order, on reflection: Wire, Read and Burn 01/02 Boards of Canada, Geogaddi Liars, They Threw Us All In a Trench.... and two I'd expect to be mildly heckled for; Delgados, Hate Doves, The Last Broadcast; and to fall asleep to, in the good sense; Sigur Ros - ( ) Compilation: Sonic Mook Expt 02, followed at a bit of a distance by the Abba collected singles. No, this is not a joke. Single: again cue the hecklers, but Elbow - Asleep in the Back (which wasn't on the first issue of the same-titled album). I like different things for different reasons. Favourite "old" purchases: Buzzcocks - Singles (Going Steady), Auteurs - Now I'm a Cowboy, Sonic Youth - Sister, Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation, Godspeed... - Levez Vos Skinny Fists, Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works vol 1. - - Andrew (who just got off a six-hour train journey, and is presenting in an hour fifty. I don't even have a playlist yet. I'm so, *so* screwed. :/ ) - -- http://www.lexical.org.uk/ | (personal: andrew@lexical.org.uk) Earth Sciences, Univ. of Cambridge | http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ DJ, CUR1350 - 1350MW, Cambridgeshire | archives, playlists etc @ RealAudio: http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ | http://www.lexical.org.uk/radio/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 12:08:21 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Saturdays Guardian 
too true mark , i'd never have guessed JM would have heard of immersion or 
had much interest in that kind of music at all. after the healers totally 
failed to leave the launch pad (in pretty embarassing fashion) i think he's 
going out on the road solo next year. i can see a pretty tough 2003 for that 
whole ashcroft/squire/butler/marr scene :-) p

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Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 11:54:40 -0600
From: "dan bailey" 
Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Listmaking for Fun and Profit (was Re: Vinyl Transmission 02)

since andrew didn't feel constrained to follow the trad top-10 format
(anarchist!), here are a handful of my faves as well, also in no particular
order (& in some cases without titles, as my back is still troubling me
enough to make hobbling to my various stacks rather a challenge) --

pere ubu -- st arkansas
enon
subtonix
slick idiot -- dicknity
interpol -- turn on the bright lights
cruxshadows
liars -- they threw us all ...
hot hot heat
radar secret service
ikara colt

geez, i guess that *is* a full 10 (i must note that, "no gods no masters"
tattoo from my anarcho days or not, i bow too much to tradition to regard
the "read & burns" as anything other than ep's, though come to think of it
each is longer than the circle jerks' & angry samoans' debuts way back
when).

still haven't given adequate listens, though, to a whole host of others,
including the full-lengths by playgroup, n*e*r*d*, radio 4, panthers, beck,
eminem, moby, primal scream, grandpaboy, mekons, chumbawamba, suicide,
cherrie blue, meat purveyors, waco brothers, rex hobart & the misery boys,
johnny cash (who i never thought i'd hear cover "personal jesus" & "sam
hall," i must say, though i still prefer frank tovey's take on the latter),
et al.

dan

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Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 08:44:01 +1100
From: "Phillip Blakeney" 
Subject: [idealcopy] The Ashes (OT)

<< "don't mention The Ashes ; )

Keith (pissed off cricket fan)"
.......................Why not??? (he asks *innocently*) Phillip from
Australia

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3 months FREE*.

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Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 12:10:20 -0600
From: "dan bailey" 
Subject: Re: [idealcopy] waaaaay ot: early rap (was: Vinyl Transmission 02)

>Keith
>
>NP White Lines - Grandmaster & Melle Mel

speaking obliquely of which, sometime after 4 this morning (see previous
note about unemployment-skewed-schedule, boredom & near-crippled status)
during back-to-back viewings of vh1 "behind the music" episodes on public
enemy (the only rappers i've paid attention to in the last 12 years or so,
though that damned eminem is starting to creep into my consciousness -- i
blame dr dre) & run-dmc, the latter's debut was referred to twice as "the
first rap album."

say *what*? i'm positive i bought that lp, pretty much upon release, in
mid-'84, right after moving back to arkansas from (by the time i get to)
arizona. grandmaster flash & the furious 5's debut lp bears a 1982
copyright -- without checking my vinyl further, i feel pretty safe in
saying, in fact, that it was in the bins some months before run-dmc's debut
12", the mighty "it's like that," ever saw daylight.

perhaps they meant lp as "mainly stemming from studio sessions then &
there," as opposed to "mostly a collection of previously released singles,"
as i suppose the grandmaster flash was. (i bought it just to get "the
message," truth be told, though the presence of "it's nasty" & i think
"scorpio" wasn't exactly a deterrent.)

dan, still irritated over having to get up after dozing off & turn off the
first "street jams" "electric funk" disc because "rockit" kept skipping ...

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Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 23:52:14 -0000
From: "Keith Astbury" 
Subject: Re: [idealcopy] The Ashes (OT)

innocent, my arse!!!

still at least the last test wasn't a total embarrassment!


> << "don't mention The Ashes ; )
> 
> Keith (pissed off cricket fan)"
> .......................Why not??? (he asks *innocently*) Phillip from
> Australia

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Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 01:04:28 -0000
From: "Keith Astbury" 
Subject: [idealcopy] Nick Cave news

I know there's at least one other Nick Cave fan here. This from the Nick =
Cave website

Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds are set to release a brand new single on =
Mute on the 24th February 2003.=20
Bring It On features a duetted vocal from Chris Bailey, singer with =
legendary Brisbane punk band The Saints and is the first single to be =
lifted from the forthcoming album Nocturama.=20

Released on CD and limited 10", Bring It On comes backed with exclusive =
tracks Shoot Me Down and Swing Low. CD copies also feature the video to =
Bring It On which was directed by long time collaborator John Hillcoat.

 NICK CAVE LIVE IN ICELAND
Nick Cave will play two solo shows in Iceland in December. Tickets are =
on sale now.

 NEW ALBUM RELEASED 3RD FEBRUARY
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds are set to release a brand new album on Mute =
entitled Nocturama on the 3rd February 2003. Featuring 10 new tracks, =
the release will be Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds' twelfth studio album =
and is the follow up to 2001's No More Shall We Part.



Go to http://www.nickcaveandthebadseeds.com and hear the new single. Not =
that immediate, but I think it's gonna be a grower...

Keith

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Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 01:53:10 -0000
From: "Tim" 
Subject: [idealcopy] That was 2002 that was

10 Best Albums of the Year:

SuperCollider - Raw Digits (like Prince having a soundclash with Rough
trade-era Cabs...light-industrial soul music. Strange and groovy.)
Recloose - Cardiology (Like a funkified Boards of Canada...in dub)
Miss Dynamite - Miss Dynamitee-tee (aw c'mon!)
Snd - Tender Love (The last word in micro-house. Their idea of a 'middle
eight' is to add a barely audible sprinkle of static over the relentless
gorgeousness.)
Farben - TextStar (House music,  reduced and expanded outwards
again...gorgeous)
Akufen - My Way (Random FM Radio broadcasts sampled and spliced together to
make better to make giddy, fractured pop music)
Guitar - Sunkissed (Because you can never have too many MBV clones...)
Jaga Jazzist - A Livingroom Hush (Norwegian Jazz , full of imaginative
melodies, unexpected instrumental twists and underpinned by unpretentious
rhythmns...next years Royksopp?)
Tom Middleton - Sounds of the Cosmos (Genius behind Global
Communication/Jedi Knights mixes the best of 2002 and throws in a few new GC
tracks too)
Scion - Scion Arrange and Process Basic Channel Tracks (introduced me to the
best music software ever made, Ableton Live)

Good but not great.

Wire - Read & Burn 1&2 (Very clever, and great to have them releasing
records, but looking forward to more variation in mood and tempo for
'Send'..still these are the only guitar-based group that have made the
slightest impression on me this year....)
Fennesz - (Odds and sods collection to tide me over till the follow up to
Endless Summer)
Errorsmith - Errorsmith 2 (Brutal!)

Reissue Repackage:

ACR - Early - (About time too)

Disappointment central:

The Underworld Album .- (Great single, bland album)
New Order box set - (No rarities, save a 17 minute version of Elegia...and
who really wants to hear that?!)
Warp Records - (Clearly left all the talent behind in Sheffield when they
moved to London)
Mouse on Mars Live - (Played it straight and strict-tempo for the Manchester
wankfest....)

TV Moments:

David Brent (a 21st Century Basil Fawlty) in 'The Office'
 "I sort of merge Flashdance with MC Hammer shit".

Alan Partridge. "DAN! DAN! DAN! DAN! DAN! DAN!.......DAN!"

Peter Kay in Phoenix Nights. "Mind yer language son, there's a picture of
the wife in me wallet...."

The bizarre tale of David 'Van' Day and Bobby Gee fighting over who owns the
rights to Bucks Fizz.

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