From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V5 #426 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Tuesday, December 24 2002 Volume 05 : Number 426 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] Joe Strummer ["Keith Astbury" ] Fwd: [idealcopy] Joe Strummer [PaulRabjohn@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Joe Strummer ["John Roberts" ] [idealcopy] Joe Strummer ["ian.s. jackson" ] Re: [idealcopy] Joe Strummer [Bart van Damme ] Re: [idealcopy] Re: [OT] Niblock [Bart van Damme ] Re: [idealcopy] [only slightly OT] Khnopff / Blaggers [Bart van Damme ] [idealcopy] Cheers ["Eric Klaver" ] [idealcopy] To Everyone [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] To Everyone ["jaime janzen" ] Re: [idealcopy] Joe Strummer [Ari Britt ] [idealcopy] Joe link........ [Ari Britt ] [idealcopy] even Graeme [Ari Britt ] [idealcopy] Joe Strummer & holidays [Santa Cruzer ] [idealcopy] wtf? ["dan bailey" ] RE: [idealcopy] Joe Strummer [Paul Pietromonaco ] [idealcopy] Joe Strummer ["Keith Astbury" ] Re: [idealcopy] even Graeme [Monochromatic Man ] [idealcopy] Joe Strummer ["Andrew Lumbard" ] RE: [idealcopy] Cheers ["Andrew Lumbard" ] Re: [idealcopy] Joe Strummer [CHRISWIRE@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 11:48:54 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: [idealcopy] Joe Strummer A few people here are gonna be upset about this, but it's been on the news this morning that Joe Strummer has died, aged 50. Suspected heart attack. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 08:20:23 EST From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Subject: Fwd: [idealcopy] Joe Strummer Return-path: From: PaulRabjohn@aol.com Full-name: PaulRabjohn Message-ID: <148.5ccc0ef.2b38677b@aol.com> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 08:19:55 EST Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Joe Strummer To: keith.astbury10@virgin.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows UK sub 10500 
oh man that's sad. first gig i ever saw , may 79. he looked really good as 
well last few times i saw him on film. as the song says , goodbye joe. p

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Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 13:40:05 +0000
From: "John Roberts" 
Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Joe Strummer

Absolutely gutted.

John


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>From: "Keith Astbury" 
>To: 
>Subject: [idealcopy] Joe Strummer
>Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 11:48:54 -0000
>
>A few people here are gonna be upset about this, but it's been on the news
>this morning that Joe Strummer has died, aged 50. Suspected heart attack.


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Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 06:15:37 -0800 (PST)
From: Monochromatic Man 
Subject: [idealcopy] Joe Strummer

What a way to start the week out...

MM

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Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 17:01:43 +0000
From: "ian.s. jackson" 
Subject: [idealcopy] Joe Strummer

couldn't believe it when i heard...

just played a few tunes as i always tend to do when this happens...

Janie Jones
Career Opportunities
Deny
Whats My Name?
48 Hours
Garageland
Clash City Rockers
White Man
London Calling

the last line of LC striking me as quite poignant...
'and after all this, won't you give me a smile...?'

i liked Strummer as a person a lot...i'm gutted too...

ian.s.j.

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Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 19:21:06 +0100
From: Bart van Damme 
Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Joe Strummer

Oh man, this is SO sad... he was one of the truely great ones and certainly
one of my personal faves. Rest in peace dear Joe.

Bart


>> A few people here are gonna be upset about this, but it's been on the news
>> this morning that Joe Strummer has died, aged 50. Suspected heart attack.

> the last line of LC striking me as quite poignant...
> 'and after all this, won't you give me a smile...?'

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Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 19:41:50 +0100
From: Bart van Damme 
Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re: [OT] Niblock

Michael:
> Phill Niblock is one of the original minimalist composers (he is older than
> La Monte Young...


Thnx for this Michael! I'm gonna look into PN for sure.

Bart

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Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 19:50:42 +0100
From: Bart van Damme 
Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [only slightly OT] Khnopff / Blaggers

>> Clue - it's not *our* Graham Lewis!

True true...

Bart [besterjester]

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Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 12:11:40 -0600
From: "dan bailey" 
Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Joe Strummer

unbloodybelievable. & there had been talk, i think, of a reunion to play for
the r'n'r hall of fame induction ...

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Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 15:56:16 -0500
From: "Eric Klaver" 
Subject: [idealcopy] Cheers

As I won't be around for the next couple of days I wish everyone a Merry
Christmas (even Bill).

Eric in Toronto

ps Pity about Joe. What a f*ckin year.

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Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 16:19:16 EST
From: RLynn9@aol.com
Subject: [idealcopy] To Everyone

I want to wish happy holidays to ALL the IC members and their loved ones...be 
safe...may the new year bring us plenty of new experiences and great music to 
explore and share...oh yeah, and LOTS more WIRE !!! 

Cheers my friends,

Robert 

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Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 14:51:10 -0700
From: "jaime janzen" 
Subject: Re: [idealcopy] To Everyone

Happy Holidays to everyone.
Jaime






>From: RLynn9@aol.com
>To: idealcopy@smoe.org
>Subject: [idealcopy] To Everyone
>Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 16:19:16 EST
>
>I want to wish happy holidays to ALL the IC members and their loved 
>ones...be
>safe...may the new year bring us plenty of new experiences and great music 
>to
>explore and share...oh yeah, and LOTS more WIRE !!!
>
>Cheers my friends,
>
>Robert


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Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 14:08:14 -0800 (PST)
From: Ari Britt 
Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Joe Strummer

Will miss ya Joe,only saw the Clash once,also BADynamite.........quite a year for us punk lovers.some losses.Ari
 John Roberts  wrote:Absolutely gutted.

John


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>From: "Keith Astbury" 
>To: 
>Subject: [idealcopy] Joe Strummer
>Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 11:48:54 -0000
>
>A few people here are gonna be upset about this, but it's been on the news
>this morning that Joe Strummer has died, aged 50. Suspected heart attack.


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Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 14:12:56 -0800 (PST)
From: Ari Britt 
Subject: [idealcopy] Joe link........

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Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 14:36:49 -0800 (PST)
From: Ari Britt 
Subject: [idealcopy] even Graeme

Have a wonderfull fucking year everyone,thanx for all the music,friendship,interesting news,links,happiness,and Bill Hicks.............love you all(i think)Ari
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Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 16:13:02 -0800 (PST)
From: Santa Cruzer 
Subject: [idealcopy] Joe Strummer & holidays

That really sucks about Joe. I only really liked the
first Clash album, but man did I play that one to
death! Liked the first BAD album as well!

And to all the Ideal Copyists, best wishes for the
Holidays and deepest hopes for a peaceful, uneventful
2003...

With the exception of some amazing and LOUD Wire
releases!


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Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 14:47:38 -0600
From: "dan bailey" 
Subject: [idealcopy] wtf?

- --- In BigTakeover@yahoogroups.com, psautier@w... wrote:
> So, those last Wire rec: do they sound like Ministry or like 
Screaming Blue 
> Messiahs ? Unless I am mistaken, both have been mentioned so I am 
confused 
> and don't know whether I should try them or not. 

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Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 17:31:03 -0800
From: Paul Pietromonaco 
Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Joe Strummer

Yup - I can confirm this story.  I read in one of the music magazines that
1) Mick Jones had joined Joe for a couple of Clash encores at a recent
Mescaleros gig, and 2) that was seen as an overture towards a reunion to
play at the Rock And Roll Hall of Fame induction.

Man- it's a shame I'll never get to hear the Clash play live now.  I
consider myself fortunate to have been able to see Joe play live last year.

Also - another music magazine had reported that Joe had just about finished
the next (and now I guess last) Mescaleros CD.  I'm not sure what state it's
in - it may be demos or finished tracks.  Joe said it needed to be
"tightened up" - he didn't want any wasted tracks.

Damn - this is a real loss.

Cheers,
Paul 

- -----Original Message-----
From: dan bailey
To: ideal copy
Sent: 12/20/02 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Joe Strummer

unbloodybelievable. & there had been talk, i think, of a reunion to play
for
the r'n'r hall of fame induction ...

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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 02:44:27 -0000
From: "Keith Astbury" 
Subject: [idealcopy] Joe Strummer 

For those sufficiently interested in The Clash, there are some Damned =
fans reminiscing on the attached link from the Damned website.

 =
http://pub70.ezboard.com/fdamnednonsensefrm1.showMessage?topicID=3D5633.t=
opic

also this from the nme...

BONOand MANIC STREET PREACHERS star NICKY WIRE are leading the tributes =
to JOE STRUMMER, who died yesterday.=20

As reported earlier on NME.COM, one of the most influential rock artists =
of all time died at his home yesterday. He is thought to have suffered a =
heart attack.=20

Bono described The Clash as "the greatest rock band", adding "they wrote =
the rule book for U2. It's such a shock."=20

Manics bassist Nicky Wire is a huge fan of The Clash, earmarking them as =
one of the reasons he wanted to form a group in the first place. He said =
in a statement: "We're shocked and saddened to hear of the sad loss, =
especially at this time of year. Our thoughts are with his family and =
friends."=20

Bob Geldof described Strummer as a "very important musician", telling =
BBC News: "He was a clear contemporary and we were rivals. I believed we =
had to get inside the pop culture - he believed you should always stay =
outside and hurl things at it. We had endless arguments about it. As we =
all got older I realised what a nice person he was. He was a very =
important musician. The Clash will be endlessly influential. They will =
always be one of the deathless rock bands. If they can influence people =
especially in this age of manufactured pop music then God bless him, =
he's left something imperishable."=20

Within the band's inner circle, ex-Clash manager Pete Jenner has spoken =
of the loss. He commented: "The band were one of the best live bands, as =
good as any band I've ever worked with. My overriding memory of him and =
The Clash was that it was never boring."=20

A post mortem is expected tomorrow.=20

.=20

[demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of JOE STRUMMER RIP - www.ezboard.com.url]

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Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 18:44:49 -0800 (PST)
From: Monochromatic Man 
Subject: Re: [idealcopy] even Graeme

Did Ari stay a little late at the office xmas party?


- --- Ari Britt  wrote:
> Have a wonderfull fucking year everyone,thanx for
> all the music,friendship,interesting
> news,links,happiness,and Bill Hicks.............love
> you all(i think)Ari
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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 07:30:14 -0000
From: "Andrew Lumbard" 
Subject: [idealcopy] Joe Strummer

Can't believe this. My first Rock'n'Roll hero. RIP Joe

AndyL

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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 07:35:12 -0000
From: "Andrew Lumbard" 
Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Cheers

Happy Christmas to all Copyists. Looking forward to the UK convention in
April.
For those with kids, or maybe those that are, have a look at my favourite
christmas website and see where Santa is.
http://www.noradsanta.org/english/index.html

May your stockings be full.

AndyL

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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 04:25:47 EST
From: CHRISWIRE@aol.com
Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Joe Strummer

In a message dated 23/12/2002 13:41:34 GMT Standard Time, 
johnroberts_stats@hotmail.com writes:


> A few people here are gonna be upset about this, but it's been on the news
> >this morning that Joe Strummer has died, aged 50. Suspected heart attack.
> 
> 

Very sad news.  

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