From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V5 #421 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Thursday, December 19 2002 Volume 05 : Number 421 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] With His Arse in the Air He Makes a Giant Target! [Andrew] [idealcopy] OT in parts - Tickets, Webcast [Andrew Walkingshaw ] Re: [idealcopy] Top Ten [RLynn9@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] Top Ten [Michael Flaherty ] Re: [idealcopy] Top Ten [Bart van Damme ] Re: [idealcopy] Top Ten [Andrew Walkingshaw ] Re: [idealcopy] Top Ten [Andrew Walkingshaw ] RE: [idealcopy] flag:burning ["Andrew Lumbard" ] Re: [idealcopy] OT in parts - Tickets, Webcast ["ian.s. jackson" ] Re: [idealcopy] Top Ten (with Wire content) ["Keith Knight" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] With His Arse in the Air He Makes a Giant Target! On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 02:48:48AM -0000, Tim wrote: > I hope it isn't sitting near me at the Barbican. > I don't want my enjoyment ruined by the sound of rustling anorak....nor my > view obscured by a bouffant hairdo. OK, Tim doesn't like Bill, Bill doesn't like Tim. We *know* already, can the both of you stop sniping at each other please, or take it to private mail? I can't believe I'm the only person to be made vaguely uncomfortable by all of this. Thank you, and compliments of the season, Andrew - -- http://www.lexical.org.uk/ | (personal: andrew@lexical.org.uk) Earth Sciences, Univ. of Cambridge | http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ DJ, CUR1350 - 1350MW, Cambridgeshire | archives, playlists etc @ RealAudio: http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ | http://www.lexical.org.uk/radio/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 14:56:44 +0000 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: [idealcopy] OT in parts - Tickets, Webcast Firstly: my ticket for f:b is here. :) Just thought the list might want to know deliveries are happening. Secondly: http://www.radiohead.com/ has some interesting messages on. Rumour hath it - webcast 10pm *GMT* tonight, probably playing "2+2 = 5", a song off the new Radiohead album. I know a lot of people hate Radiohead, so sorry for troubling you. :) Thought those who do like them would be interested, though. Andrew (now listening to the hilarious/insane Faith No More vs Sparks version of "This Town..." on Radio 1) - -- http://www.lexical.org.uk/ | (personal: andrew@lexical.org.uk) Earth Sciences, Univ. of Cambridge | http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ DJ, CUR1350 - 1350MW, Cambridgeshire | archives, playlists etc @ RealAudio: http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ | http://www.lexical.org.uk/radio/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 16:34:43 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] vitesse under the influence > - - - - - - - and now a word from our sponsor: VITESSE I know Vitesse as the band of Dutch rocklegend [yes we have one too] and buildingjumper Herman Brood [RIP] before he "broke through" with His Wild Romance. And certainly no Wirevibe here! ;-) http://www.artistdirect.com/store/artist/album/0,,181345,00.html Bart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 18:42:18 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] [now definitly-OT] i dream of Colin[s]...and Barry >> Didn't surprise me as much as >> seeing Joan Collins' name mentioned >> on the IC list...:-I > as long as you mentioned her again...has anyone seen the badly drawn boy > video? if you have, you'll know the one i'm tallkin about. i don't remember > the song title. -paul c.d Saw it once and found it very well made. Very brave of Miss Collins to act quite a vulnerable ageing woman the way she did. Bart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 11:57:54 -0600 From: Michael Flaherty Subject: [idealcopy] Top Ten I thought I'd start this ... 1. Sonic Youth: Murray Street 2. Mats Gustafson, Jim O'Rourke, and Thurston Moore: Diskaholics Anonymous Trio 3. Wire: Read and Burn (pts. 1 and 2) 4. Phill Niblock: G2, 44+/ x2 5. Philip Jeck: Soaked (w/ Jacob Kierkegarrd); Stoked 6. Kawabata Makoto: I'm Your Innermost; Private Tapes #7; Infinite Love; I Wished You Were Here Once Again Note: w/ the prolific Jeck and even more proloific Makoto, breaking up the year's releases seemed pointless. 7. Bernhard Gunter: Redshift 8. Sophie Angel, Lionel Marchetti, and Jerome Noetinger: Rougue, Gris, Bruit 9. Lee Ranaldo: Outside My Window ... 10. Peter Gabriel: Long Walk Home Reissues (no order): Philip Glass: Early Voice Eliane Radigue: Adnos MIA: John Cale, Brian Eno, Robert Fripp (I meam full-length cds) I suppose Wire being #3 will cause requests for my being drawn and quartered, and no doubt too much Sonic Youth for some--hey, it's my list not a concensus ;). Also odd to have 3 Philips. Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 13:08:56 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Top Ten In a message dated 12/18/02 11:57:26 AM Central Standard Time, mflaher3@triton.edu writes: << 5. Philip Jeck: Soaked (w/ Jacob Kierkegarrd); Stoked >> personally, i find Kierkegarrd's electronics distracting and non-complimentary to Jeck's turntablism.....Stoked is a much more satisfying listen for these ears... RL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 12:15:16 -0600 From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Top Ten ><< 5. Philip Jeck: Soaked (w/ Jacob Kierkegarrd); Stoked >> > >personally, i find Kierkegarrd's electronics distracting and >non-complimentary to Jeck's turntablism.....Stoked is a much more satisfying >listen for these ears... > >RL These weren't necessarily in order ... although I do probably prefer Soaked. MF ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 20:52:04 +0100 From: Bart van Damme Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Top Ten > I thought I'd start this ... > 1. Sonic Youth: Murray Street > 2. Mats Gustafson, Jim O'Rourke, and Thurston Moore: Diskaholics Anonymous > Trio > 9. Lee Ranaldo: Outside My Window ... Let me guess Michael, you're a SY fan? ;-) Bart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 20:16:27 +0000 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Top Ten On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 12:15:16PM -0600, Michael Flaherty wrote: [top ten stuff] In no particular order, this year I've particularly enjoyed Wire's two EPs, Boards of Canada's Geogaddi, the Doves and Delgados albums, the Sonic Mook Experiment compilation, and the Liars album. Mostly I've been catching up with older stuff, though, which is a task which never ends. - - Andrew - -- http://www.lexical.org.uk/ | (personal: andrew@lexical.org.uk) Earth Sciences, Univ. of Cambridge | http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ DJ, CUR1350 - 1350MW, Cambridgeshire | archives, playlists etc @ RealAudio: http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ | http://www.lexical.org.uk/radio/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 20:21:18 +0000 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Top Ten On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 08:16:27PM +0000, Andrew Walkingshaw wrote: > On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 12:15:16PM -0600, Michael Flaherty wrote: > [top ten stuff] > > In no particular order, this year I've particularly enjoyed Wire's two > EPs, Boards of Canada's Geogaddi, the Doves and Delgados albums, the Sonic > Mook Experiment compilation, and the Liars album. ... and Sigur Ros - ( ) . Oops. (There's probably more I've forgotten too...) - - Andrew - -- http://www.lexical.org.uk/ | (personal: andrew@lexical.org.uk) Earth Sciences, Univ. of Cambridge | http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ DJ, CUR1350 - 1350MW, Cambridgeshire | archives, playlists etc @ RealAudio: http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ | http://www.lexical.org.uk/radio/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 20:17:25 -0000 From: "Andrew Lumbard" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] flag:burning Alistair has his seats >> All, >> seats 30-31 front row of the circle >> >> all together now...'he's behind you!' Oh no he's not....we are! B43-44 AndyL ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 20:25:33 +0000 From: "ian.s. jackson" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT in parts - Tickets, Webcast Andrew Walkingshaw... >Firstly: my ticket for f:b is here. :) > >Just thought the list might want to know deliveries are happening. ours arrived this morning...booked on Friday, so pretty good going with the Xmas post and all...! >Andrew (now listening to the hilarious/insane Faith No More vs Sparks >version of "This Town..." on Radio 1) whhaaaaattt.....? what the hell is this...? another one of those 'bastard pop' things...? i need to know...soon... ;) ian.s.j. (long-time Sparks fan) _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:30:06 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Top Ten (with Wire content) In a message dated 12/18/02 2:17:10 PM Central Standard Time, andrew-wire@lexical.org.uk writes: << In no particular order, this year I've particularly enjoyed Wire's two EPs,>>>>> Without a doubt, the Read & Burns have gotten quite a workout around the house and the walkman....i admit that i didn't really like them at first but after a few listens and the right mood change..well, they rocked my world...i think i was stuck in wimp mode and was not prepared for such a sonic onslaught....but thanks to Wire and the mindset they jarred my complacent ass into, i have also rediscovered many of my old favs as well as some new stuff... i have been digging out the old Killing Joke albums as well as My Bloody Valentine, Catherine Wheel, The Pop Group, Joy Division, A Certain Ratio, The Buzzcocks and Magazine..... Boards of Canada's Geogaddi,>>>> this had to grow on me as well...i was talking with John Balance the other day and he informed me that there is a very strong possiblity of Coil and BoC collaborationg on a project in the near future. and the Liars album.>>>> i have listened to this album dozens of times now, but it's still not hitting me....in some strange way i almost find it annoying.....i'm not sure why..... Robert ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 18:53:05 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT in parts - Tickets, Webcast >>Andrew (now listening to the hilarious/insane Faith No More vs Sparks >>version of "This Town..." on Radio 1) > >whhaaaaattt.....? what the hell is this...? another one of those 'bastard >pop' things...? i need to know...soon... ;) > >ian.s.j. (long-time Sparks fan) possibly from their plagiarism (i think it's called) cd of about 5 years back? it's probably the only album of theirs i don't own. dan, overwhelmed at having just received the latest suicide, liars ep & split, yeah yeah yeahs ep, enon, primal scream, hot hot heat ep & album, ikara colt, slick idiot & cherrie blue discs... & somehow i'm supposed to find the time to (a) look for a job & (b) watch dagon (which obviously owes lots more to shadow over innsmouth) ... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:32:42 +0000 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT in parts - Tickets, Webcast On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 08:25:33PM +0000, ian.s. jackson wrote: > >Andrew (now listening to the hilarious/insane Faith No More vs Sparks > >version of "This Town..." on Radio 1) > > whhaaaaattt.....? what the hell is this...? another one of those 'bastard > pop' things...? i need to know...soon... ;) > > ian.s.j. (long-time Sparks fan) It was a single a few years ago; I know nothing about album availability. Charted somewhere in the low 30s as I recall: Mark Goodier of all people was championing it... - - Andrew - -- http://www.lexical.org.uk/ | (personal: andrew@lexical.org.uk) Earth Sciences, Univ. of Cambridge | http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ DJ, CUR1350 - 1350MW, Cambridgeshire | archives, playlists etc @ RealAudio: http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ | http://www.lexical.org.uk/radio/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:53:40 -0000 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] flag : burning The Barbican is a notoriously complex space and I for one have never been able to describe its internal topography satisfactorily to neophytes. As a result, prior to the M25 performance I met people in the Bishop's Finger, a Shepherd Neame pub about five minutes walk from the complex (although perhaps 15 minutes from your seat once you've satisfied your bladder's call) - it's in Smithfield's meat market and can explain how to get there in more detail if people are interested (although I'd need to double check it's open on Saturdays). It has the advantage of good beer and being a pub, unlike the Barbican bars which only sell shite beer and lager. If it's not open I may be able to find a suitable alternative by forcing myself to go drinking in the area between now and April. another the Keith - ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Walkingshaw To: Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [idealcopy] flag : burning > On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 03:15:06AM -0500, CHRISWIRE@aol.com wrote: > > Boys > > seats P-31 and P-32.Looking forward to it. > > Chris > > Right, I think that's enough of us going > > Where are we going to meet beforehand, then? :) Someone must know the City > of London... > > (I'm assuming Bill Hick is coming too: don't think he'd willingly miss a > Wire show he could at all plausibly get to...) > > - Andrew > > -- > http://www.lexical.org.uk/ | (personal: andrew@lexical.org.uk) > Earth Sciences, Univ. of Cambridge | http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ > DJ, CUR1350 - 1350MW, Cambridgeshire | archives, playlists etc @ > RealAudio: http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ | http://www.lexical.org.uk/radio/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:05:55 -0000 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Top Ten (with Wire content) Anything to do with that annoying half-hour drone at the end? - a similar affliction affects the Polyphonic Spree album. It's the curse of CDs - bands wouldn't have done this in the vinyl era (Metal Machine Music excepted). another the Keith - ----- Original Message ----- From: > > and the Liars album.>>>> > > i have listened to this album dozens of times now, but it's still not hitting > me....in some strange way i almost find it annoying.....i'm not sure why..... > > Robert ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:08:23 -0000 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT in parts - Tickets, Webcast What's dagon? Anything referencing Lovecraft is potentially interesting in these parts... And has anyone seen that new Spielberg alien thing yet? another the Keith - ----- Original Message ----- From: dan bailey > dan, overwhelmed at having just received the latest suicide, liars ep & > split, yeah yeah yeahs ep, enon, primal scream, hot hot heat ep & album, > ikara colt, slick idiot & cherrie blue discs... & somehow i'm supposed to > find the time to (a) look for a job & (b) watch dagon (which obviously owes > lots more to shadow over innsmouth) ... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:01:43 -0000 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] flag : burning + accomodation There's got to be some bargains to be had on a Saturday in the City of London. There's the Thistle, which is a pretty shit hotel but is not far away. There's a Travelodge or Travel Inn on Marylebone Road too, which is only a few stops away on the Metropolitan line (assuming it's working at the weekend by then - currently it's suspended due to building work at St Pancras). another the Keith - ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Lumbard To: Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:58 AM Subject: RE: [idealcopy] flag : burning + accomodation > From experience the old travelodges start lowering their prices as you > radiate from the City centre. The one which springs to mind for that side of > town is the one near the Dome at Greenwich. > Alternatively, leave it late and pick up something plush for about #99 for > the room on lastminute.com. We've done that before, and stayed on Park Lane. > > AndyL > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-idealcopy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-idealcopy@smoe.org]On > >> Behalf Of ian.s. jackson > >> Sent: 17 December 2002 21:32 > >> To: idealcopy@smoe.org > >> Subject: Re: [idealcopy] flag : burning + accomodation > >> > >> > >> >Right, I think that's enough of us going > >> > > >> >Where are we going to meet beforehand, then? :) Someone must > >> know the City > >> >of London... > >> > >> agreed...oh, we're row P too...!!! ;) > >> ...and speaking of which, we might as well start asking now > >> ('we' being me & > >> the Mrs) ...anyone know of any nearby cheap-ish digs/hotels...? > >> we've Googled around a bit but without much success so far, so... > >> any help greatly appreciated. > >> > >> cheers, ian.s.j. > >> > >> _________________________________________________________________ > >> Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > >> http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:59:42 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] flag : burning > I may be able to find a suitable alternative by forcing myself to go > drinking in the area between now and April. > > another the Keith phew! the lengths some people are willing to go on this list! well done ; ) Keith ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 01:00:13 +0000 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] flag : burning On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 12:59:42AM -0000, Keith Astbury wrote: > > I may be able to find a suitable alternative by forcing myself to go > > drinking in the area between now and April. > > > > another the Keith > > > phew! the lengths some people are willing to go on this list! > > well done ; ) Well, I'm the list's abstemious and uptight Scot - I don't actually drink (alcohol) - but that sounds good to me :) - - Andrew - -- http://www.lexical.org.uk/ | (personal: andrew@lexical.org.uk) Earth Sciences, Univ. of Cambridge | http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ DJ, CUR1350 - 1350MW, Cambridgeshire | archives, playlists etc @ RealAudio: http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ | http://www.lexical.org.uk/radio/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 01:02:19 +0000 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Top Ten (with Wire content) On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 11:05:55PM -0000, Keith Knight wrote: > Anything to do with that annoying half-hour drone at the end? - a similar > affliction affects the Polyphonic Spree album. It's the curse of CDs - > bands wouldn't have done this in the vinyl era (Metal Machine Music > excepted). That half-hour drone is an ideal bed for radio, and when I've stopped actually playing tracks off my CD with it on, I intend to use it as such :) (A "bed" is half-volume music you play during links, so as to distract the listeners' ears when you can't think of much to say: it actually works quite well if not overused...) - - Andrew - -- http://www.lexical.org.uk/ | (personal: andrew@lexical.org.uk) Earth Sciences, Univ. of Cambridge | http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ DJ, CUR1350 - 1350MW, Cambridgeshire | archives, playlists etc @ RealAudio: http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ | http://www.lexical.org.uk/radio/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 01:13:19 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT in parts - Tickets, Webcast > >Andrew (now listening to the hilarious/insane Faith No More vs Sparks > >version of "This Town..." on Radio 1) > > ian.s.j. (long-time Sparks fan) The new album has had some great reviews. Not heard anything off it as yet, but it's supposed to be an altogether more 'difficult' album than their last (the mighty pop effort, Balls) Keith np Bowie - hours... > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 20:12:16 -0600 From: "dan bailey" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT in parts - Tickets, Webcast just got through watching it -- as i surmised, it's based very much on the shadow over innsmouth. while set in spain, it's far more faithful to hpl (with, of course, some gratuitous gore & nudity thrown in) than director stuart gordon's earlier herbert west & related flicks. best lovecraftian movie i've seen, i think, remains carpenter's in the mouth of madness, though the curse (directed by david keith, of all people) is an extremely effective adapation of colour out of space & resurrection ain't bad in attempting to re-create charles dexter ward. now i need to go dig up that tape i recorded awhile back of the haunted palace. "spielberg alien thing" (good name for a band) i haven't seen yet, presuming you're referring to solaris. still want to track down the original & view it first, actually. dan >What's dagon? Anything referencing Lovecraft is potentially interesting in >these parts... And has anyone seen that new Spielberg alien thing yet? > >another the Keith > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: dan bailey > >> dan, overwhelmed at having just received the latest suicide, liars ep & >> split, yeah yeah yeahs ep, enon, primal scream, hot hot heat ep & album, >> ikara colt, slick idiot & cherrie blue discs... & somehow i'm supposed to >> find the time to (a) look for a job & (b) watch dagon (which obviously >owes >> lots more to shadow over innsmouth) ... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 01:49:13 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Top Ten (with Wire content) > > Anything to do with that annoying half-hour drone at the end? am I the only person who likes that last track? keith np 'that last track' ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 20:42:38 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Top Ten (with Wire content) since the wire and chameleons tours this fall, i find myself going back to some old stuff more often, and also listening to more "rockin" stuff too. the r&b's helped pump me up for that too. the more i hear from the locals here, the more excited i get. in the past i often made the mistake of ignoring what was happening right around me for more "exotic" sounds from across the country and across the globe. i suppose it was part of that feeling (i think we've all felt) that this "obscure" or "unkown" music we like is ours alone, a special secret of somekind. so while i've always been a fan of sonic youth and swans, there aren't really any other ny bands i have all (or even several) several albums from. if pixies and throwing muses weren't 4ad bands, i wonder how late i would've become a fan (if ever). being a new yorker for all my nearly 39 years, i've of course seen many great local bands live, mostly as opening acts for european, australian, and west coast (or out of town) american bands. but i've now developed (and am still developing) a real fondness for new york (and east coast) bands old and new. i saw mission of burma headline for the first time ever last spring. this summer i got into blonde redhead and a bit of fugazi. i'll be hunting down missing no wave vinyl (if there's any out there for me to find). new and newer bands i'm really digging now are: liars, yeah yeah yeahs, interpol, radio 4, rogers sisters, calla, and i know there are others i just can't think of right now but will come to me after i send this :o) - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:24:05 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Top Ten (with Wire content) Keith > >>am I the only person who likes that last track?<< > > No! > > Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:49:47 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: taken/vitesse was:[idealcopy] OT in parts - Tickets, Webcast In a message dated 12/18/02 7:42:18 PM, steeleknight@lineone.net writes: > And has anyone seen that new Spielberg alien thing yet? you mean taken? i taped all 20 hours and don't know when i'll have the time to view it. the few moments i caught while setting up the vcr looked very good. the above comment "very good" comes from someone who watches zero tv series, movies, mini series, etc., and only tunes in to cooking and home improvement shows, auction shows and the like, the occasional music video that catches my interest (when such things are actually being shown on music channels) and of course...cartoons. :o) - -paul c.d. n.p. vitesse- you win again. gravity! i still don't hear much wire in there. maybe just a touch of 80's rhythmically (aheadish, bingoesque, almost manscapelike) on a couple of tracks. and the guitar chords ring a teensy weencie bit of early wire on one track and 80's wire on another. had they not mentioned the influence i wouldn't have picked up on it consciously at all, but since they did... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:24:01 EST From: RLynn9@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Top Ten (with Wire content) In a message dated 12/18/02 7:39:32 PM Central Standard Time, keith.astbury10@virgin.net writes: > > > Anything to do with that annoying half-hour drone at the end? > > am I the only person who likes that last track? > > keith > > np 'that last track' > actually, i like the last track...it's just the rest of the of the album that i can't seem to warm up to... RL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 07:37:11 -0000 From: "Andrew Lumbard" Subject: RE: [idealcopy] Top Ten (with Wire content) >> am I the only person who likes that last track? .....probably. Don't think they'd carry it off live AndyL ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V5 #421 *******************************