From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V5 #412 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Tuesday, December 10 2002 Volume 05 : Number 412 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [idealcopy] Re:Ben Elton/OFF TOPIC ["Keith Astbury" ] [idealcopy] Interpol @ Cotton Club, Atlanta, GA 12/8/02 ["Jason Rogers" ] [idealcopy] flag : burning ["Keith Knight" ] Re: [idealcopy] flag : burning [Ari Britt ] Re: [idealcopy] flag : burning ["Tim" ] Re: [idealcopy] flag : burning [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] Re: [idealcopy] flag : burning [Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re:Ben Elton/OFF TOPIC > > But whatever happened to The Comic Strip? Why can't you get The > > Bullshitters, Bad News, The Strike, Five Go Mad in Dorset etc etc on DVD? > > Maybe they are too 80s for 2000s > > ////i thought the CS were hit or miss (the french & saunders ones were > rubbish) but i really loved the Bullshitters. The Strike was one I'd missed at the time, but I saw it a few years back and loved it. Peter Richardson was a real unsung talent. His portrayal of Pacino playing Scargill was the stuff of genius. And the piss-take of the way Hollywood would sentimentalise the tale - complete with Rik Mayall's Leader of the House Hollywood style wink - had me in stitches. Paul's right though - it was hit and miss, but the hits were great. Apart from Bad News and Five Go Mad In Dorset, I was particularly fond of the Mayall western A Fistful of Travellers Cheques. But then I belong to the school that thinks that Mayall (as Rik in the Young Ones and Kevin Turvey) was the funniest man alive for a period in the 80's. Keith NP Technique - New Order. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 01:13:07 -0000 From: "Tim" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Re:Ben Elton/OFF TOPIC Paul Rabjohn writes: > BE was i suppose quite interesting in the 80's , but seems stuck in a horrible time-warp he can't move out of. i guess this >applies to several other of the comic strip team also. the thing i do wonder is how a guy of his political beliefs ( i can only >suppose they were/are genuine) wants to collaborate with an arch-tory like andrew lloyd-webber ; you'd think there was no >common ground there at all. He was funny is his day, but he was as 80s as Red Wedge, Kajagoogoo and flourescent socks. But whatever happened to The Comic Strip? Why can't you get The Bullshitters, Bad News, The Strike, Five Go Mad in Dorset etc etc on DVD? Maybe they are too 80s for 2000s Expect a revival when 80s nostalgia kicks in around 2007. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 12:48:37 -0600 From: "Michael Flaherty" Subject: [idealcopy] Re: a Classic! >From: "Bill Hick" >Subject: [idealcopy] Coming Fast - a Classic! >The following are all 'classic' recordings: > >99.9 >Spent >Germ Ship >Nice Streets >Art of Stopping >Read and Burn > >The rest are pretty good too. This is a list I mostly agree w/ (including the rest being good too), but I would have to add Lewis's "Agfers" track--probably my favorite right now. More Lewis! >Deconstruct (Blast First compilation) features > >Bruce Gilbert >SH + W >Philip Jeck >Band of Susans >Christian Marclay >Jon Oswald I'll just second this recommendation and note that this comes up on Ebay from time to time and is probably worth a good size bid if you're one who likes the Ash compilations that Bruce has been on. Michael Flaherty ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 23:13:59 +0000 From: "Jason Rogers" Subject: [idealcopy] Interpol @ Cotton Club, Atlanta, GA 12/8/02 I saw Interpol in concert last night here in Atlanta and, since I've seen their name mentioned frequently on this list, I'll take the liberty of writing a short review. In short, Interpol gave an excellent show. I've always had a theory that, if a band does not sound as good onstage as they do in the studio, then they are not a good band. This is one reason why, after being a fan of Wire for thirteen years or so, my devotion to the band has become even greater due to their incredible live show here a couple of months ago. With my above theory in mind, I give an enthusiastic recommendation to anyone interested in seeing Interpol in concert. In the small venue where I saw them last night, the dueling guitars and bass lines from songs like "Stella Was A Diver And She Was Always Down", "The New", and "NYC" gave the songs an increased ethereal spark that improved on the studio versions. The songs that rock, such as "Obstacle 1", "PDA", and "Roland", were much more intense due to the simple fact that the thundering drums were in the same room as the listener. A fun show, indeed. These guys are no Wire, but, if they can keep it going, then the good etheral rock out there is far from dead. As probably expected, I recognized a few people from the Wire show and even reminisced with a couple of acquaintances about it. Also, for any of you who live near Atlanta, Mission Of Burma is scheduled to play here at the Echo Lounge in late February; tickets go onsale on December 20. I'm sure there are a few MOB fans around here, so maybe we'll run across each other. Jason _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 00:40:30 -0000 From: "Keith Knight" Subject: [idealcopy] flag : burning Oh, this is something to look forward to - at least for those able to get to London on Saturday 26 April. A flyer received today from the Barbican announces: flag : burning Wire performing Pink Flag in its entirety with stage direction and design by Jake and Dinos Chapman (enfants terrible of the British art scene for anyone not familiar). Also, 'send' - Wire's latest work on the PinkFlag label, performed with stage direction and design by Es Devlin who has been described as 'a poet of light and space'. Tickets #25, #20, #15, #12.50. Available from www.barbican.org.uk or on 020 7638 8891. I'm rounding up my posse on this one. another the Keith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 17:28:21 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: Re: [idealcopy] flag : burning and will someone lpease take a recording device for those of us on the 'other side of the pond'...........Ari Keith Knight wrote: Oh, this is something to look forward to - at least for those able to get to London on Saturday 26 April. A flyer received today from the Barbican announces: flag : burning Wire performing Pink Flag in its entirety with stage direction and design by Jake and Dinos Chapman (enfants terrible of the British art scene for anyone not familiar). Also, 'send' - Wire's latest work on the PinkFlag label, performed with stage direction and design by Es Devlin who has been described as 'a poet of light and space'. Tickets #25, #20, #15, #12.50. Available from www.barbican.org.uk or on 020 7638 8891. I'm rounding up my posse on this one. another the Keith Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 01:31:10 -0000 From: "Tim" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] flag : burning WIRE loves to surprise doesn't it? Not much will get me south of Crewe these days. But this sounds fantastic. Enough to warrant a white-knuckle ride on one of Richard Branson's deathtrains, to that dirty, rat-infested terrorist target in Kent, the one they call London Village. A big day out for the IdealCopy massive too. I'm no expert on the Chapman's. (or anything else as some of you constantly remind me). Anyone care to speculate about how they might manifest themselves in a Pink Flag de(con)struction context. There is Lots of War/Mutilation/Mutation and Poo in their work...and this occurs on PinkFlag...or maybe its just the Mannequins they liked? To more earthly concerns. Whats with the multi-tiered ticketing system though? What do you get for #25? Do you get to be *in* Wire for the day? If so I'm paying #25 and I'd like to be Colin Newman please. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Knight" To: "Idealcopy" Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 12:40 AM Subject: [idealcopy] flag : burning > Oh, this is something to look forward to - at least for those able to get to > London on Saturday 26 April. > > A flyer received today from the Barbican announces: > > flag : burning > > Wire performing Pink Flag in its entirety with stage direction and design by > Jake and Dinos Chapman (enfants terrible of the British art scene for anyone > not familiar). > > Also, 'send' - Wire's latest work on the PinkFlag label, performed with > stage direction and design by Es Devlin who has been described as 'a poet of > light and space'. > > Tickets #25, #20, #15, #12.50. > > Available from www.barbican.org.uk or on 020 7638 8891. > > I'm rounding up my posse on this one. > > another the Keith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 21:01:37 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] flag : burning In a message dated 12/9/02 8:28:49 PM, luvjazzz@yahoo.com writes: >and will someone lpease take a recording device for those of us on the >'other side of the pond'...........Ari heck, i hope it's being videotaped! and what is 'send'? - -paul c.d. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 02:01:49 +0000 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] flag : burning On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 12:40:30AM -0000, Keith Knight wrote: > Oh, this is something to look forward to - at least for those able to get to > London on Saturday 26 April. > > A flyer received today from the Barbican announces: > > flag : burning I'm up for this. - - Andrew - -- http://www.lexical.org.uk/ | (personal: andrew@lexical.org.uk) Earth Sciences, Univ. of Cambridge | http://www.esc.cam.ac.uk/ 7-9PM Mondays, CUR1350: 1350 MW Cambs. and online - http://www.cur1350.co.uk/ ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V5 #412 *******************************