From: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org (idealcopy-digest) To: idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Subject: idealcopy-digest V5 #389 Reply-To: idealcopy@smoe.org Sender: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-idealcopy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk idealcopy-digest Tuesday, November 19 2002 Volume 05 : Number 389 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [idealcopy] RE: idealcopy-digest V5 #388 [Alistair Tear ] Re: [idealcopy] Mute Wire EMI [rayographique ] Re: [idealcopy] Mute Wire EMI [Andrew Walkingshaw ] [idealcopy] Wireopa ["Jan Noorda" ] [idealcopy] OT: Top 100 Singles ["Tim" ] [idealcopy] OT:What's your spam [voyteck@webtv.net] Re: [idealcopy] OT:What's your spam [Eardrumbuz@aol.com] [idealcopy] OT:spewing spam [voyteck@webtv.net] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 09:44:59 -0000 From: Alistair Tear Subject: [idealcopy] RE: idealcopy-digest V5 #388 Hi Patrick Thanks for the advice It's actually an mpeg format file but I don't have a webpage (as yet) Alistair > > none of my pics @ hof ter lo were any good > > (digital camera + absolute beginner) > > however I did make a video clip of the first encore > > 'Reuters'... > > extremely lo res visually > > sounds great! > > > due to aforementioned ineptitude > > but the sound is ok to my (non-golden) ears > > > > one for wire completists only, as they say... > > could someone advise me of the easiest way > > to make the file available, should anyone be interested? > > Off course interested :) > You need to convert the videotape to an internet streaming > format. Connect > the video/filmplayer to a videocard on your computer and > encode it to Real > Media or Windows Media format. Then you need a streaming > server to upload > and stream the file. Finally connect it to your webpage. Hope > this helps, > it's quite some work ... > Anyway, if I can help you let me know. You can use my streaming server > (Real Meida) if you want. > > Ciao, > Patrick > > ************************************************************************* The contents of the e-mail and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Transport for London Street Management hereby excludes any warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of this e-mail and any attached transmitted files. 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As far as 'being away from major label record companies' that's certainly the case now, as Wire deals with everything itself via pinkflag.com and posteverything.com. However, in the '70s, Wire was signed to EMI-offshoot, Harvest, and while Mute was an indie, it was one of the largest. C ===== - ------- Craig Grannell / Wireviews --- http://www.wireviews.com News, reviews and dugga. VMU: http://www.vmuonline.com SVA: http://www.snubcommunications.com - -------------- wireviews@yahoo.com --- Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 04:36:00 -0800 (PST) From: rayographique Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Mute Wire EMI - --- Wireviews wrote:... > As far as 'being away from major label record > companies' that's certainly the case now, as Wire > deals with everything itself via pinkflag.com and > posteverything.com. However, in the '70s, Wire was > signed to EMI-offshoot, Harvest, and while Mute was > an > indie, it was one of the largest. i had heard some rumbling that the final 'album' culled from R'n'B 1-n would be on a 'major'. Assuming a major would compensate them fairly - something which I am certain you all know is not always the case - seldom, even. Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 12:49:24 +0000 From: Andrew Walkingshaw Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Mute Wire EMI On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 04:36:00AM -0800, rayographique wrote: > i had heard some rumbling that the final 'album' > culled from R'n'B 1-n would be on a 'major'. Assuming > a major would compensate them fairly - something which > I am certain you all know is not always the case - > seldom, even. It's notable that (just as an example) Queen, to name a band utterly unlike Wire, managed to get some pretty damn good deals from the majors later in their career, by the expedient of having their music completed in advance (and fully owned) by them, and just licensing it - to, I believe, EMI in the UK and Hollywood in the US. I suspect, on no evidence, that it'd be much harder to "creatively account" when one can't fiddle advances, recording costs, producer percentage, and so forth and so on; a business-to-business licensing deal, from Pinkflag to MajorRecordCompany, in effect. (Pretty common nowadays; see the White Stripes with Sympathy for the Record Industry, or any other of a horde of "indie" bands.). Also, pulling wool over the eyes of a bunch of callow 20-year-olds seems like an easier task than fleecing a band who've been there, done that, run the label... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:01:02 EST From: MarkBursa@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Mute Wire EMI >>> i had heard some rumbling that the final 'album' culled from R'n'B 1-n would be on a 'major'. Assuming a major would compensate them fairly - something which I am certain you all know is not always the case - seldom, even.<<< Given that Paul Smith (a) manages Wire and (b) runs Blast First, home to next-big-things Yeah Yeah Yeahs and Liars, the obvious non-PinkFlag outlet for a Wire album would be....Blast First. Given decent sales and successful distribution for R&B1 (saw it in Montpelier, France, in Spetember, for example) there's no reason why it shouldn't be on PinkFlag, licenced via a distributor. Big labels still work on the basis of advance-in-return-for-multi-album deals. I'd guess Wire have no need or desire to get involved with that again. Mark Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 16:59:32 -0000 From: "Keith Astbury" Subject: Re: [idealcopy] Plonk/Groucho Marx > Howabout; > "Some things give hypocrisy a bad name?" isn't that by Bon Jovi, Glenn? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 13:06:43 -0800 (PST) From: Ari Britt Subject: [idealcopy] Mark wrote....... Mark wrote: Big labels still work on the basis of advance-in-return-for-multi-album deals. I'd guess Wire have no need or desire to get involved with that again. Mark Mark shouldn't that be Marky Mark Mark? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 01:45:11 +0100 From: "Jan Noorda" Subject: [idealcopy] Wireopa I am wondering why there are no people in Europe who are not using the english language in common writing a little review after seeing and hearing them. Vielleicht darfen wir in mehrere Sprachen unsere Befindungen notieren. Maybe we have write our experiences in more languages mais, il fait peutetre tres difficile communiquer avec les autres copyist ideales. but probably it would be very difficult to comunnicate with the other Ideal Copyists But there would be more Wire-fans in Europe then in the UK,USA,NL,ISR etc. Isn't it? It's a comet... (Tonight Leonides, I believe 5 o'clock tonight) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 02:05:30 -0000 From: "Tim" Subject: [idealcopy] OT: Top 100 Singles Anyone see that top 100 best selling UK singles thing last Saturday? Proof if it were needed that Quality beats Quantity every time. Key moments: 1. Weird, suburban, fat English piggy-women queuing to buy the Dead Diana version of Candle In the Wind with appalling lyrics that don't scan, and grabbing multiple copies in some weird, grief-induced spend-frenzy for dead Aristocrat they had never met. 2. 'Boh Rap', as Andrew Lloyd-Webbers Right-Wing tosspot of a friend, Ben Elton, calls it, is in fact the third best selling single ever. The top two don't count. See above. The other is band aid. 3. Human League turned down Band Aid because it was sold to them thus: "Would you like to make a record with Bob Geldof"..to which they said , as any self respecting human being, not knowing of the famine element, would have said....NO!! 4. Hit me With Your Rhythm Stick is the only decent record in the Top 100. A extraordinary freak occurrence of good taste among the general public of this country. 5. No Bowie, Bolan, Rolling Stones, Abba etc. New Order have Blue Monday though. On account of multiple re-issues. 6. Stevie Wonder will be remembered only for 'I Just Called to Say I love you'. 7. Most of the stuff that really sells millions is really bad. Fact. 8. The current editor of the NME cropped up quite a lot to pass comment. He looks about 12 years old!!!! No wonder only children read the NME these days!! 9. No Wire of course. 10. Boney M are the most successful band ever. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 21:49:33 -0600 (CST) From: voyteck@webtv.net Subject: [idealcopy] OT:What's your spam I just received (but did not open) "everyone loves a milf si..." as subject on my e-mail listings. Anyone else? My filters screen most spam, but this one unusually close to "Everybody loves a history". Thoughts? voyteck ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 23:01:50 EST From: Eardrumbuz@aol.com Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT:What's your spam In a message dated 11/18/02 10:49:54 PM, voyteck@webtv.net writes: > I just received (but did not open) "everyone loves a milf si..." as >subject on my e-mail listings. Anyone else? My filters screen most spam, >but this one unusually close to "Everybody loves a history". > Thoughts? depends what the milf looks like - -l'autre paul p.s. i hope the humor came through in the above response p.p.s. not that it's funny at all, just that i hope y'all realise it's not meant to be taken seriously p.p.p.s. have i beaten the topic to death in one simple post? n.p. remove for improvement p.s. honestly, i am listening to turns n strokes and that song came on as i got to voyteck's post about spam, hehe. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 23:53:26 -0600 (CST) From: voyteck@webtv.net Subject: [idealcopy] OT:spewing spam In Reply, Eardrumbuz@aol.com Date: Mon, Nov 18, 2002, 11:01pm (CST+1) in p.p.p.s. comments about pc taboo topic Subject: Re: [idealcopy] OT:What's your spam p.p.p.s. have i beaten the topic to death in one simple post? No! I'd rather someone had eaten the spam to death in one simple post! np: illusion of safety (m v & geography) a tragic age-your 15 minutes are up (enough to give the garbageman cramps) voyteck ------------------------------ End of idealcopy-digest V5 #389 *******************************